Black and Brown people need to just stop applying for this show all together. Tamar will likely be the only Black winner this show ever sees. It’s sad to see Black people excited about being on the show only to spend their summer dealing with microaggressions and being purposely isolated.
Tamar doesn’t count because CBS cast those over Grodner. Grodner would have never cast that many black people. I have stated 1,000 times ans will continue to state till something is done that Grodner is a racist however I don’t think the cast isolates them like you think. Grodner cast black people that are purposely picked to fail. Most of the time their being left out or evicted is justifiable with the exception of season 15. Even with David and Kemi who are my two favorites I get the logic putting them up. Had David not volunteered or if David was the only volunteer he put up or if Kemi actually made an effort and he still put them up then I would believe it. David couldn’t have been set up better for the comp just unlikely with the results.
The whole volunteer thing is bullshit, plain and simple and I wish people would stop hiding behind that.
Why not pick Blonde Kathyrn or passable Analyse? Two women who actually voted against Jackson and for Jessica (in addition to Kemi) to become CD?? Let's ignore that though and pick Cliff, the old guy, who actually voted for Jackson to be in power. Make it make sense. A campaign to be in power isn't a campaign to get rid of Jackson, no one even knew what CD entailed before voting other than safety. But go off.
The whole volunteer thing is ********, plain and simple and I wish people would stop hiding behind that.
Why not pick Blonde Kathyrn or passable Analyse? Two women who actually voted against Jackson and for Jessica (in addition to Kemi) to become CD?? Let's ignore that though and pick Cliff, the old guy, who actually voted for Jackson to be in power. Make it make sense. A campaign to be in power isn't a campaign to get rid of Jackson, no one even knew what CD entailed before voting other than safety. But go off.
Jackson sent in the three that wanted power and the person that spoke to him the least (at least in his mind) which all makes sense in that situation. Let's blame the women that can't even stick together for a single vote. Jessica could have sent in 4 strong guys but Bella (who actually has a great shot this season as a minority) and other women bailed per usual. That's not racism. That's just game.
I agree with KVM for once on this one. It was the easiest excuse. Do they even know how the votes fell? David was my favorite and preseason pick, this twist has really made me want to stop watching. BUT I don’t think every time a black person is left out or voted out it’s automatically a race thing and it causes real racist issues to get lost. However, in this case I hope people continue to claim racism on social media to help encourage them to just bring David back lol.
Anyway Fessy and Haleigh fake broke up to get on MTV.
How do you know they fake broke up? Is ex on the beach casting soon?
yeah that’s what pink told us, like a winter season or something like that. Every one knows they want to be on the challenge.
I know Fessy wants to be on the Challenge but Haleigh doesn’t seem like the type to be down with doing this type of shit to try and get cast. But I guess we will see.
Anyway Fessy and Haleigh fake broke up to get on MTV.
How do you know they fake broke up? Is ex on the beach casting soon?
yeah that's what pink told us, like a winter season or something like that. Every one knows they want to be on the challenge.
I know Fessy wants to be on the Challenge but Haleigh doesn't seem like the type to be down with doing this type of **** to try and get cast. But I guess we will see.
Haleigh is an opportunist. Of course she’s down to do this to get on tv again.
am I or are you projecting? Lmao it’s common knowledge middle America didn’t like Bayleigh or Swaggy, much less then together. You’d be blind to see people weren’t rooting against their union. I’m saying unlike most of these one off showmances they actually seem to love each other. Words mean things
am I or are you projecting? Lmao it’s common knowledge middle America didn’t like Bayleigh or Swaggy, much less then together. You’d be blind to see people weren’t rooting against their union. I’m saying unlike most of these one off showmances they actually seem to love each other. Words mean things
Define what you mean by "middle America"
Personally, I hate all showmances so...I only care about game
am I or are you projecting? Lmao it’s common knowledge middle America didn’t like Bayleigh or Swaggy, much less then together. You’d be blind to see people weren’t rooting against their union. I’m saying unlike most of these one off showmances they actually seem to love each other. Words mean things
It’s what you were insinuating which is why you just went on to further explain. I think people just disliked Chris because of his arrogance, attitude, and dumb branding. He seemed like he was in it more for the attention than for her. When he was evicted it was a 3 weeks relationship in a non-normal enviornment. The proposal at the finale seemed to be for attention and to keep his name relevant...once again he know her for 3 weeks and then didn’t see her for over 2 months. It wasn’t like a Jeff and Jordan relationship viewers watched grow. People were rooting against Brendan/Rachel and probably still are. People were against Elena/Mark, Matt/Raven, and I’m sure many, many more that I’m too lazy to recall. I don’t think people were against this one because of race but due to the circumstances and because Chris was annoying. However, a year later they seem very happy, supportive, and genuine. I prefer their relationship over Tyler/Angela any day.
Did I ask who else they were rooting for or against? Did I ask if either of you liked showmances? I said they were and are still rooting against them and you agreed so there’s no conversation. You just want to oppose some shit play that contrarian shit with someone who cares Because it won’t be me. I said what I said
Did I ask who else they were rooting for or against? Did I ask if either of you liked showmances? I said they were and are still rooting against them and you agreed so there's no conversation. You just want to oppose some **** play that contrarian **** with someone who cares Because it won't be me. I said what I said
Your refusal to define "middle America" proves Kajun right--thanks
Did I ask who else they were rooting for or against? Did I ask if either of you liked showmances? I said they were and are still rooting against them and you agreed so there's no conversation. You just want to oppose some **** play that contrarian **** with someone who cares Because it won't be me. I said what I said
Their shtick is to pretend racism doesn’t exist so I would just ignore them
Did I ask who else they were rooting for or against? Did I ask if either of you liked showmances? I said they were and are still rooting against them and you agreed so there's no conversation. You just want to oppose some **** play that contrarian **** with someone who cares Because it won't be me. I said what I said
Their shtick is to pretend racism doesn’t exist so I would just ignore them
Did I ask who else they were rooting for or against? Did I ask if either of you liked showmances? I said they were and are still rooting against them and you agreed so there's no conversation. You just want to oppose some **** play that contrarian **** with someone who cares Because it won't be me. I said what I said
I’m not sure if you are aware how a message board works but it’s open forum where people go back and forth and share opinions. If you are going to get heated because someone has a different view or perspective maybe this isn’t the place for you. I was making a point most showmances are rooted against regardless of race. Racism is a real issue but when you try and apply it to situations where it isn’t happening it takes away from where it is. You can share your thoughts without getting upset cause someone disagrees. We all come from different lifestyles and having respectful dialogue is a good way to help people understand from a perspective they have never experienced.
Tamar doesn’t count because CBS cast those over Grodner. Grodner would have never cast that many black people. I have stated 1,000 times ans will continue to state till something is done that Grodner is a racist however I don’t think the cast isolates them like you think. Grodner cast black people that are purposely picked to fail. Most of the time their being left out or evicted is justifiable with the exception of season 15. Even with David and Kemi who are my two favorites I get the logic putting them up. Had David not volunteered or if David was the only volunteer he put up or if Kemi actually made an effort and he still put them up then I would believe it. David couldn’t have been set up better for the comp just unlikely with the results.
The whole volunteer thing is bullshit, plain and simple and I wish people would stop hiding behind that.
Why not pick Blonde Kathyrn or passable Analyse? Two women who actually voted against Jackson and for Jessica (in addition to Kemi) to become CD?? Let's ignore that though and pick Cliff, the old guy, who actually voted for Jackson to be in power. Make it make sense. A campaign to be in power isn't a campaign to get rid of Jackson, no one even knew what CD entailed before voting other than safety. But go off.
Jackson sent in the three that wanted power and the person that spoke to him the least (at least in his mind) which all makes sense in that situation. Let's blame the women that can't even stick together for a single vote. Jessica could have sent in 4 strong guys but Bella (who actually has a great shot this season as a minority) and other women bailed per usual. That's not racism. That's just game.
All that said, you still can attack the casting
I agree with KVM for once on this one. It was the easiest excuse. Do they even know how the votes fell? David was my favorite and preseason pick, this twist has really made me want to stop watching. BUT I don’t think every time a black person is left out or voted out it’s automatically a race thing and it causes real racist issues to get lost. However, in this case I hope people continue to claim racism on social media to help encourage them to just bring David back lol.
Anyway Fessy and Haleigh fake broke up to get on MTV.
Swaggy & Bayleigh will be there soon.
How do you know they fake broke up? Is ex on the beach casting soon?
yeah that’s what pink told us, like a winter season or something like that. Every one knows they want to be on the challenge.
they’re in Fiji promoting Love Island because you know they actually love each other
I know Fessy wants to be on the Challenge but Haleigh doesn’t seem like the type to be down with doing this type of shit to try and get cast. But I guess we will see.
Haleigh is an opportunist. Of course she’s down to do this to get on tv again.
i mean they are already married... so their process takes longer. So not sure it will be soon
We don’t do that fake love on this side. Sorry.
Can you further elaborate?
Finally Haleigh ditched him. Thank goodness.
Rumor is Fessy cheated if so MTV better get the person he cheated with on EotB lol.
that despite middle America hating to see it, they actually love each other
I don’t think people root against black people as much as you think
where did I mention black people baby
That is what you are insinuating.
am I or are you projecting? Lmao it’s common knowledge middle America didn’t like Bayleigh or Swaggy, much less then together. You’d be blind to see people weren’t rooting against their union. I’m saying unlike most of these one off showmances they actually seem to love each other. Words mean things
Define what you mean by "middle America"
Personally, I hate all showmances so...I only care about game
It’s what you were insinuating which is why you just went on to further explain. I think people just disliked Chris because of his arrogance, attitude, and dumb branding. He seemed like he was in it more for the attention than for her. When he was evicted it was a 3 weeks relationship in a non-normal enviornment. The proposal at the finale seemed to be for attention and to keep his name relevant...once again he know her for 3 weeks and then didn’t see her for over 2 months. It wasn’t like a Jeff and Jordan relationship viewers watched grow. People were rooting against Brendan/Rachel and probably still are. People were against Elena/Mark, Matt/Raven, and I’m sure many, many more that I’m too lazy to recall. I don’t think people were against this one because of race but due to the circumstances and because Chris was annoying. However, a year later they seem very happy, supportive, and genuine. I prefer their relationship over Tyler/Angela any day.
Jeff & Jordan might have been the only "showmance" that was liked by the majority of the fanbase.
Did I ask who else they were rooting for or against? Did I ask if either of you liked showmances? I said they were and are still rooting against them and you agreed so there’s no conversation. You just want to oppose some shit play that contrarian shit with someone who cares Because it won’t be me. I said what I said
If what TuesDaze said, didn’t apply to you then why are you feeling so hit? Have y’all heard of speaking in general?
Your refusal to define "middle America" proves Kajun right--thanks
Their shtick is to pretend racism doesn’t exist so I would just ignore them
I’m not sure if you are aware how a message board works but it’s open forum where people go back and forth and share opinions. If you are going to get heated because someone has a different view or perspective maybe this isn’t the place for you. I was making a point most showmances are rooted against regardless of race. Racism is a real issue but when you try and apply it to situations where it isn’t happening it takes away from where it is. You can share your thoughts without getting upset cause someone disagrees. We all come from different lifestyles and having respectful dialogue is a good way to help people understand from a perspective they have never experienced.
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