[QUOTE=kvm1977;448120]Just like Jordan had no chance to win?
People say things that don't make sense IMO[/QUOTE]
If everyone continues to play the game their currently playing, do you see him winning sitting next to anyone left in the game besides Victoria?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;448121]This season isn't bad--an alliance owning the game isn't bad. It's good game play.[/QUOTE]
It's a good season for the players in power, as a viewer it's dull...
[QUOTE=Clarke;448129]If everyone continues to play the game their currently playing, do you see him winning sitting next to anyone left in the game besides Victoria?
It's a good season for the players in power, as a viewer it's dull...[/QUOTE]
Absolutely--he could beat anyone depending on what happens from here on out--we're still early in the game
I love it as a viewer
[QUOTE=kvm1977;448130]Depends why you watch...this is great game play[/QUOTE]
I do like to see great game play but if the same side keeps winning then there erally are no surprises. if the other side won (like this week) then i do like it
[QUOTE=auldx;448133]I do like to see great game play but if the same side keeps winning then there erally are no surprises. if the other side won (like this week) then i do like it[/QUOTE]
Tonight was a shock with Zach staying...that was a great week for true fans. It shows how quickly things change
[QUOTE=kvm1977;448134]Not true at all--true hardcore fans watch for true game play[/QUOTE]
I don't understand why you think it's not true whatsoever. the basis of BB is a 3 month long power struggle. I doubt anyone says, "I want to watch Big Brother this summer, that's the show where a group of people win everything and wipe out everyone they're not friends with. That show is awesome!"
[QUOTE=kvm1977;448128]Numbers always matter[/QUOTE]
They only matter when there are 9 or fewer people in the house, right now they don't there really is no situation the past couple of weeks that keeping all the numbers would have mattered one way or another.
[QUOTE=Clarke;448140]I don't understand why you think it's not true whatsoever. the basis of BB is a 3 month long power struggle. I doubt anyone says, "I want to watch Big Brother this summer, that's the show where a group of people win everything and wipe out everyone they're not friends with. That show is awesome!"[/QUOTE]
The show is to win the game. That's game play. This isn't about friendships--it is about alliance
[QUOTE=Clarke;448140]I don't understand why you think it's not true whatsoever. the basis of BB is a 3 month long power struggle. I doubt anything says, "I want to watch Big Brother this summer, that's the show where a group of people win everything and wipe out everyone they're not friends with. That show is awesome!"[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. If the denotators or wahtever just wiped out the other side the game wouldn't start until the other side is out. I like game play. but unpredictable is the best for me
[QUOTE=Esquire;448142]They only matter when there are 9 or fewer people in the house, right now they don't there really is no situation the past couple of weeks that keeping all the numbers would have mattered one way or another.[/QUOTE]
Even within a group there's numbers...numbers matter until the very end
Nothing about the current situation strikes me as gameplay... Just a really smart player (Derrick) steamrolling the rest of the house, and getting people to do things his way (Cody, Frankie, Christine, Caleb, Zach, Vic).
Then there's the 2 HOH twist, which just makes players nominate scared, is also annoying.
Then you add in Team America which only further complicates things.
Oh and then there's the insufferable choice in HGs and casting.
[QUOTE=Dash_Vegas!;448147]Nothing about the current situation strikes me as gameplay... Just a really smart player (Derrick) steamrolling the rest of the house, and getting people to do things his way (Cody, Frankie, Christine, Caleb, Zach, Vic).
Then there's the 2 HOH twist, which just makes players nominate scared, is also annoying.
Then you add in Team America which only further complicates things.
Oh and then there's the insufferable choice in HGs and casting.[/QUOTE]
I completely disagreee with this. Derrick's not running things the way people believe--notice he even asked Christine--who do I evict?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;448148]I completely disagreee with this. Derrick's not running things the way people believe--notice he even asked Christine--who do I evict?[/QUOTE]
No Derrick is running this entire house, and I guarantee he asked Christine who to evict just to cover up the fact. He always makes other people think they are the ones creating the plan but really it is always him.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;448148]I completely disagreee with this. Derrick's not running things the way people believe--notice he even asked Christine--who do I evict?[/QUOTE]
Well it's double eviction week, very little time to talk and since Hayden and Nicole were playing together they probably could decide in a short amount of time who they really waned. Derrick is the only one playing a great game on that side of the house IMO. Frankie is painfully transparent. Christine is playing a sloppy 6th place game, Caleb and Cody are just following the leader and Zach is playing some type of game. I don't see what's so interesting and stimulating about this for 6 straight weeks.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;448149]And this is also why you keep numbers...because Nicole will blow everything up to Caleb[/QUOTE]
So what, it still all depends on who wins HOH.
[QUOTE=Clarke;448152]Well it's double eviction week, very little time to talk and since Hayden and Nicole were playing together they probably could decide in a short amount of time who they really waned. Derrick is the only one playing a great game on that side of the house IMO. Frankie is painfully transparent. Christine is playing a sloppy 6th place game, Caleb and Cody are just following the leader and Zach is playing some type of game. I don't see what's so interesting and stimulating about this for 6 straight weeks.[/QUOTE]
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! Can I buy you a beer??
[QUOTE=Esquire;448153]So what, it still all depends on who wins HOH.[/QUOTE]
No, it doesn't because you need to votes to get out the person you need out. Even if Nicole wins HOH she's pretty much screwed this week with 2 HOHs
[QUOTE=Dash_Vegas!;448157]THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! Can I buy you a beer??[/QUOTE]
I'm two beers in cause I thought it was going to be an amazing episode. I don't mind one more! :D
Man Derrick is completely running the show and these people have no idea what so ever it's awesome. Hayden is completely convinced Frankie & Christine are the ones who screwed he & Nicole over where in reality Cody & Derrick completely flipped on them tonight was BB Gold. So a little more than an hour ago Nicole & Hayden felt completely safe and in control of this game they believed Zach was as good as gone and they, Cody, Derrick, & Donny were going to be working together and they were going to have the numbers to control the game but BAM! Caleb reminds Derrick that by keeping Zach they meaning Derrick, Cody, Zach, Frankie, Christine, & Caleb will have the numbers and now Jocosta is gone followed by Hayden. WOW! Now it's Derrick, Cody, Zach, Frankie, Christine, & Caleb vs Nicole & Donny as for Victoria she'll vote with the majority everytime so she'll be safe for a while.
How was this not an amazing episode?
The HOH was completely blindsided, the guy everyone though was going home less than 30 hours ago stayed and the biggest ally of that HOH went home.
If it was reversed and the other side had the HOH this week everyone would have been thrilled
This isn't a game about who you like--this is a game. Everyone that leaves deserves to leave.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;448158]No, it doesn't because you need to votes to get out the person you need out. Even if Nicole wins HOH she's pretty much screwed this week with 2 HOHs[/QUOTE]
She isn't screwed, let's say she wins HOH gets to go first and puts up Victoria and Frankie, who does the other HOH put up? Also if you don't have the numbers just put up two people you want out then you're guaranteed to get one out.
[QUOTE=Esquire;448175]She isn't screwed, let's say she wins HOH gets to go first and puts up Victoria and Frankie, who does the other HOH put up? Also if you don't have the numbers just put up two people you want out then you're guaranteed to get one out.[/QUOTE]
Putting up Frankie and Victoria means Victoria leaves...she's screwed
With 2 HOHs that theory doesn't work and with 1 HOH you're screwed the next week
You can't win this game alone...not since the Veto came into play in Season 3
Sometimes I feel like no one watches the show
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