[QUOTE=JayTee;327134][U]Devyn[/U] outweighs her and is stronger than her.
[U]Sarah[/U] outweighs her, is stronger, has more endurance, and is probably the smartest in the house.
[U]Nani[/U] outweighs her, is stronger, and has a "animal-rage mode" like CT.
[U]Trishelle[/U] is smarter and has a lot more experience doing these challenges than her.
[U]Marie[/U] outweighs her, is stronger, and can also go into psycho mode like Nani.
[U]Ashley[/U] is probably equally skilled as Jonna.
[U]Sam[/U] is probably equally skilled as Jonna.
Jonna was at the bottom of the toting pole with Jasmine, Sam & Ashley from the start lol and Jemye too.[/QUOTE]
Lol Devyn? I love her, but she is weak. All she has is size, Jonna would own her in most things.
Ironic that Sarah is smarter yet Jonna beat her in a puzzle.
And Jonna doesn't play the game like Trishelle? Their gameplay is extremely similar. Trishelle has done nothing impressive.
Right, that's why Sam struggled in that log mission where Jonna did fine. This is getting ridiculous...
[QUOTE=JayTee;327134][U]Devyn[/U] outweighs her and is stronger than her.
[U]Sarah[/U] outweighs her, is stronger, has more endurance, and is probably the smartest in the house.
[U]Nani[/U] outweighs her, is stronger, and has a "animal-rage mode" like CT.
[U]Trishelle[/U] is smarter and has a lot more experience doing these challenges than her.
[U]Marie[/U] outweighs her, is stronger, and can also go into psycho mode like Nani.
[U]Ashley[/U] is probably equally skilled as Jonna.
[U]Sam[/U] is probably equally skilled as Jonna.
Jonna was at the bottom of the toting pole with Jasmine, Sam & Ashley from the start lol and Jemye too.[/QUOTE]
Haha easily the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. The post above mine explains it all, I'm just agreeing. People really need to look at more factors when deciding if someone is "weak" or not. You can't use "out-weighs" as a measure of how a person performs. Syrus, Brad, Adam L, and Ace all out-weighed Derrick on the Gauntlet 2, he beat then all. CT, Brad, and Eric out-weighed Derrick on the Duel and he beat them all in the Push Over challenge, they all out-weigh him. Using that as a means of performance is completely ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;327179]Haha easily the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. The post above mine explains it all, I'm just agreeing. People really need to look at more factors when deciding if someone is "weak" or not. You can't use "out-weighs" as a measure of how a person performs. Syrus, Brad, Adam L, and Ace all out-weighed Derrick on the Gauntlet 2, he beat then all. CT, Brad, and Eric out-weighed Derrick on the Duel and he beat them all in the Push Over challenge, they all out-weigh him. Using that as a means of performance is completely ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Derrick is different because he is feisty and strong lb for lb and we know this because we have seen him go toe to toe with heavier guys. I don't think we've seen anything from Jonna that reveals that she can keep up with the bigger women in physical competitions. Ruthie and Camilla would be more comparable to Derrick in the sense that they've proven that they're worth more than their size. Jonna on the other hand hasn't really shown that she's stronger than what we expect from somebody her size.
[QUOTE=v123;327180]Derrick is different because he is feisty and strong lb for lb and we know this because we have seen him go toe to toe with heavier guys. I don't think we've seen anything from Jonna that reveals that she can keep up with the bigger women in physical competitions. Ruthie and Camilla would be more comparable to Derrick in the sense that they've proven that they're worth more than their size. Jonna on the other hand hasn't really shown that she's stronger than what we expect from somebody her size.[/QUOTE]
Ruthie hasn't been worth **** competition wise since Battle of the Sexes.
[QUOTE=TheKorean;327185]Ruthie hasn't been worth **** competition wise since Battle of the Sexes.[/QUOTE]
She was strong on gauntlet 2 and she won a mission on duel 2(no fluke)...the same challenge where rachel stated that she was her "biggest competition hands down"
[QUOTE=v123;327255]She was strong on gauntlet 2 and she won a mission on duel 2(no fluke)...the same challenge where rachel stated that she was her "biggest competition hands down"[/QUOTE]
Ad she lost to Kimberly. Ruthie was not strong on Gauntlet 2 she was average. Rachel's biggest competition in the duel was Tori or Brittini.
[QUOTE=TheKorean;327262]Ad she lost to Kimberly. Ruthie was not strong on Gauntlet 2 she was average. Rachel's biggest competition in the duel was Tori or Brittini.[/QUOTE]
I don't think losing to Kimberly says anything bad about Ruthie. Kim was tough on these Challenges.
One day Robb and Derek are sitting around eating breakfast before a challenge…
Derek: What a glorious day for a challenge!
Robb: Yeah, but these challenges haven’t been as cool as I thought they’d be, hopefully the next season I’m on they will step it up.
Derek: Ya me too.
Robb: Hahahahaha you think you’re gonna be on another challenge? No offense bro but wallpaper is more interesting than you. You’ve been on 2 challenges now and you haven’t done jack ****.
Derek: What have you done so interesting besides being Marie’s slave?
Robb: Hey man, I’m interesting. I know you haven’t seen my real world season, but I punch myself in the face like 2 times! I’m ******* crazy bro.
Derek: Sorry man but you have to be bat **** to be on this show. There’s this guy named CT and one time he smashed some kid’s head and ate it. It’s true…Wes told me. He was there.
Robb: Well what are we gonna do? How are we gonna get invited back?
Derek: Well, I know they had a challenge called Rivals, so maybe we can do something so if they have a Rivals 2 we’ll be partners.
Robb: **** that I’ll go fight Zach or something I don’t want to be partners with you.
Derek: Come on Robb, I need this. The world hasn’t gotten to see the real Derek Chavez yet.
Robb: Ok fine, so how should we do this?
Derek: We can’t just start fighting randomly, I need to get in a fight with a girl and then you need to defend her or something. What girl would it be easy to get in a fight with?
Robb: That Lacey girl hasn’t done anything yet maybe we can get her to fight with you.
Derek: Dude she literally went home first.
Robb: That explains a lot.
Derek: I’ll just fight with Nany, she’s easy to mess with.
Robb: Is Nany the midget black girl?
Derek: For ******’s sake Robb!
The next morning….
Robb: That was great, Derek! We're gonna be on Rivals 2 for sure!
Derek: I’m not so sure, Robb. I just feel like there wasn’t enough of you being shirtless…
TO BE CONTINUED
People should take a look at this interview with CJ and how he explains the Jonna/Jasmine situation.
[url=http://honestreviewscorner.com/2012/11/20/interview-with-mtvs-battle-of-the-seasons-contestant-cj-koegel/]Interview with MTV’s ‘Battle of the Seasons’ contestant CJ Koegel | honestreviewscorner.com[/url]
"[I]After discussing the possibility of the final being next, we made Jonna not compete in the arena, because she is the strongest girl."[/I]
I'm not really sure if I believe his reasoning for Jonna not going in. I'm sure it had a lot more to do with her whining and throwing a hissy fit and guilting the rest of the team into letting her stay to win some money. What a *****.
[QUOTE=Aereas;328159]I'm not really sure if I believe his reasoning for Jonna not going in. I'm sure it had a lot more to do with her whining and throwing a hissy fit and guilting the rest of the team into letting her stay to win some money. What a *****.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what Jas said
[QUOTE=Aereas;328159]I'm not really sure if I believe his reasoning for Jonna not going in. I'm sure it had a lot more to do with her whining and throwing a hissy fit and guilting the rest of the team into letting her stay to win some money. What a *****.[/QUOTE]
The fact that you say "I'm not really sure if I believe.." and "I'm sure.." and then call Jonna a *****, just goes to show how close-minded some people are. Yes, editing happens, and yes I've read the exchanges on Twitter between Jasmine and Jonna, but I doubt CJ would lie about anything or even exaggerate the truth. The arguments about the topic are getting ridiculous and nobody besides the cast knows what really happened. And considering CJ played the biggest role in the discussion, I'd say his word is probably solid.
The logic they used is good, and especially strategic considering it was almost a guarantee that Zach would be in the Arena. They wanted the team to remain strong whether CJ won or not. The team wouldn't be strong if it were Derek and Jasmine. Like others are saying though, it wasn't Jonna in the wrong, it was CJ for volunteering. I understand he's a great guy and a team player, but it should've been Derek and Jasmine.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;328155]
"[I]After discussing the possibility of the final being next, we made Jonna not compete in the arena, because she is the strongest girl."[/I][/QUOTE]
This is what a smart team would do and what a smart player would now
The only problem is why the hell did CJ go in? His decision was stupid--Jonna's decision was not.
You always send in your weakest link--always. ALWAYS
Jasmine is so fake, she and Jonna are bff's on twitter but on Derrick's podcast she tried to all the sudden act like she hates Jonna and is determined to take her down in an elimination. Clearly someone just wants an invite to the next challenge and sone airtime at the reunion. What a loser.
Because she wants to go against Jonna in an elimination and get her revenge. AKA she just said she was retiring for attention, now she is making up fake drama for an invite since she was invisible this season.
[QUOTE=Kajun;328591]Jasmine is so fake, she and Jonna are bff's on twitter but on Derrick's podcast she tried to all the sudden act like she hates Jonna and is determined to take her down in an elimination. Clearly someone just wants an invite to the next challenge and sone airtime at the reunion. What a loser.[/QUOTE]
Your so right because they have been spending the whole time in NY together according to the tweets with Frank. They seems so calculating, and yes I said they because I'm sure Jonna listened to that podcast and unless they had a weekend to hash it out. It seems like its all fake drama.
[QUOTE=Kajun;328594]Because she wants to go against Jonna in an elimination and get her revenge. AKA she just said she was retiring for attention, now she is making up fake drama for an invite since she was invisible this season.[/QUOTE]
Jasmine did enough on Rivals and Exes to make up for a lackluster season to be invited back.
I think Jasmine was upset with Jonna when she learned that Jonna cried to Brooklyn before eliminations. They are all hanging out now in New York so I wonder if she got Jonna's side of things and is no longer mad or if she will go off on her on the reunion.
At this point I wouldn't believe any animosity Jasmine shows toward Jonna on the reunion. I'd be inclined to think it was contrived.
It's obvious they're all buddy-buddy, and why shouldn't they be? They had probably the best team chemistry this season from what we saw, and any combination of those 4 will probably work well together on future challenges.
The (team?) decision to send in CJ & Jasmine was... stupid? The correct call? I don't think there's a good answer there. From our perspective, we didn't know they were prize-sharing so we couldn't know their logic behind keeping a strong team of 2 behind. From their perspective, they erroneously believed the finals were coming up when in fact there are 4-6 more eliminations before the final. Had they known that, would they have made a decision that almost certainly guaranteed a 2-person team to stick around for 4-6 more dailies that strongly favor 4-person teams? In that situation I'd personally play for the best chance of sticking around as a 4-person team (I'm still thinking under the idea that Jonna is a lot smarter than Sam so she could have figured out a way to win like CJ did 3 times.)
So I take back calling Jonna a *****. I just don't think anyone had the right information to make the correct call there. However...
[spoiler]We'll see if in the future their decision-making process is altered as a result of none of the 4 of them making the final.[/spoiler]
Jonna could have done well. People act like Sam is HUGE compared to her, which doesn't seem true....unless they weighed both Jonna and Sam. Sam isn't a big girl.
[QUOTE=Seminole;328613]Jonna could have done well. People act like Sam is HUGE compared to her, which doesn't seem true....unless they weighed both Jonna and Sam. Sam isn't a big girl.[/QUOTE]
Sam's not "big" like some people but she's a big girl when compared to Jonna and Jasmine
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Pretty good shot to compare the two. Actually makes me think Jonna couldve put up a decent fight
[QUOTE=Dash_Vegas!;328647]
Pretty good shot to compare the two. Actually makes me think Jonna couldve put up a decent fight[/QUOTE]
Looks like Jonna and Sam are very similar in size and not the 40 lb difference kvm tried to say.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;328621]Sam's not "big" like some people but she's a big girl when compared to Jonna and Jasmine[/QUOTE]
Jasmine yes.
Jonna....eh. She's a "big" girl too. She isnt small and tiny haha
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;328650]Looks like Jonna and Sam are very similar in size and not the 40 lb difference kvm tried to say.[/QUOTE]
They're not built similarly at all--at least 20 pound different. Jonna said 40--just repeating what she said
[QUOTE=Seminole;328657]Jasmine yes.
Jonna....eh. She's a "big" girl too. She isnt small and tiny haha[/QUOTE]
Jonna is definitely not a big girl. She's like 5'5 and she's very thin.
Sam isn't a big girl either, but if you compare her stomach and legs to Jonna's, she's bigger. I'd say maybe 15-20 lbs bigger.
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