He lost me after he wasn't honest about what happened, considering he put up that GoFundMe without being explicit about the details.
He did, however, give money back to whoever requested it and lost a leg. So in the grand scheme, there's nothing to discuss further. He got an extreme of consequence, second to death. There's nothing further to talk about. You choose to support him, or don't, but people wouldn't be satisfied until he passed atp.
If Nelson wasnt exposed do you think that he ever is honest and returns the money? He didn't ask for forgiveness and return the money cause he felt bad or he reflected on his errors, he just did it cause he was outed and people where clamoring to him. I get why people would have a dislike for him now.
But I think the scam is the only thing people should hang on to hate on him. He's already paying the price of his accident where luckily he was the only victim. Now let's hope that he has learnt from his errors and takes accountability.
I will say it took like a month for it be officially stated he was drunk and prior to that people were already skeptical and didn't extend any empathy.
Which I think says a lot about the amount of grace they were willing to give him. That's why I was extra annoyed when it turned out to be the case, but there was a vocal majority/minority that didn't care from the start. So I think regardless of what Nelson did he'd still be getting flack. That was simply the cherry on top.
I will say it took like a month for it be officially stated he was drunk and prior to that people were already skeptical and didn't extend any empathy.
Which I think says a lot about the amount of grace they were willing to give him. That's why I was extra annoyed when it turned out to be the case, but there was a vocal majority/minority that didn't care from the start. So I think regardless of what Nelson did he'd still be getting flack. That was simply the cherry on top.
If Nelson was sober there would have been nothing to criticize. I think everyone still has compassion that he has the medical issues he does resulting from the accident but he can be criticized for his actions while you still "empathize" with him. Just like if Tony or CT or countless others were in an accident that late at night it was a safe assumption he was drunk--which he was VERY drunk.
Tony driving drunk is worse than Nelson because he has kids. Everything Nelson did after the accident is why he's still getting criticism.
Isn't Mattie still bashed here any time her names comes up because of her DUIs?
Because he knew that if he told the truth from the start that the accident was HIS fault because he was drinking and driving he wouldn't get people giving him as much money which is icky. Also he could have killed someone else by his poor choices... people have the right to be angry.
I will say it took like a month for it be officially stated he was drunk and prior to that people were already skeptical and didn't extend any empathy.
Which I think says a lot about the amount of grace they were willing to give him. That's why I was extra annoyed when it turned out to be the case, but there was a vocal majority/minority that didn't care from the start. So I think regardless of what Nelson did he'd still be getting flack. That was simply the cherry on top.
If Nelson was sober there would have been nothing to criticize. I think everyone still has compassion that he has the medical issues he does resulting from the accident but he can be criticized for his actions while you still "empathize" with him. Just like if Tony or CT or countless others were in an accident that late at night it was a safe assumption he was drunk--which he was VERY drunk.
Tony driving drunk is worse than Nelson because he has kids. Everything Nelson did after the accident is why he's still getting criticism.
Isn't Mattie still bashed here any time her names comes up because of her DUIs?
I don't empathize with him.
And, you were one of the ones that immediately. jumped into "he was drunk". You didn't allow any information to progress naturally and there was a bigger gap in us finding that out than anticipated. All we knew is that he was in a bad accident and was in the hospital. You couldn't just held back until all facts were revealed, as opposed to trying to be right.
Because had he he been sober would you have issued an apology ? Would you have said "I jumped the gun?" No, you would've stood ten toes down if someone brought it up.
I will say it took like a month for it be officially stated he was drunk and prior to that people were already skeptical and didn't extend any empathy.
Which I think says a lot about the amount of grace they were willing to give him. That's why I was extra annoyed when it turned out to be the case, but there was a vocal majority/minority that didn't care from the start. So I think regardless of what Nelson did he'd still be getting flack. That was simply the cherry on top.
If Nelson was sober there would have been nothing to criticize. I think everyone still has compassion that he has the medical issues he does resulting from the accident but he can be criticized for his actions while you still "empathize" with him. Just like if Tony or CT or countless others were in an accident that late at night it was a safe assumption he was drunk--which he was VERY drunk.
Tony driving drunk is worse than Nelson because he has kids. Everything Nelson did after the accident is why he's still getting criticism.
Isn't Mattie still bashed here any time her names comes up because of her DUIs?
I don't empathize with him.
And, you were one of the ones that immediately. jumped into "he was drunk". You didn't allow any information to progress naturally and there was a bigger gap in us finding that out than anticipated. All we knew is that he was in a bad accident and was in the hospital. You couldn't just held back until all facts were revealed, as opposed to trying to be right.
Because had he he been sober would you have issued an apology ? Would you have said "I jumped the gun?" No, you would've stood ten toes down if someone brought it up.
We've seen him on the show and how his decision making while under the influence is extremely poor. Considering the time of the accident I would have said almost anyone was drunk--definitely those with obvious issues when it comes to drinking. Did you think Nelson was just out and sober? Does that sound like the Nelson we've seen?
Yes, if he had been sober I would have acknowledged I was wrong but there was zero concern about that happening.
Didn't matter what he was at the time because it wasn't confirmed. The second we found out my tune switched. Sometimes it better to stay silent, than to jump in to be right.im not even saying you had to say prayers up, but I would've just ignored it and waited for it to be confirmed what happened.
And, you have zero humility so no you wouldn't have. You don't even believe that.
Didn't matter what he was at the time because it wasn't confirmed. The second we found out my tune switched. Sometimes it better to stay silent, than to jump in to be right.im not even saying you had to say prayers up, but I would've just ignored it and waited for it to be confirmed what happened.
And, you have zero humility so no you wouldn't have. You don't even believe that.
It does matter--common sense is relevant. Maybe you shouldn't have been defending him--you were the one that had to "switch" your tune--not me. Again, anyone in that situation I would have said they were likely drunk....
You can believe or don't believe whatever you want--you believed he was sober so that speaks to "beliefs"
Yupp and it wasn't just me. DUIs often take months to come to light. Nelson's always had issues with alcohol. We've seen that on the show. Not at all surprising and had nothing to do with not liking Nelson or his race or anything else. My comments would have been the same for tons of guys--Tony, John, CT, Cory, etc.
Didn't matter what he was at the time because it wasn't confirmed. The second we found out my tune switched. Sometimes it better to stay silent, than to jump in to be right.im not even saying you had to say prayers up, but I would've just ignored it and waited for it to be confirmed what happened.
And, you have zero humility so no you wouldn't have. You don't even believe that.
It does matter--common sense is relevant. Maybe you shouldn't have been defending him--you were the one that had to "switch" your tune--not me. Again, anyone in that situation I would have said they were likely drunk....
You can believe or don't believe whatever you want--you believed he was sober so that speaks to "beliefs"
I believed what the news article reportng it mentioned. No one said he was drunk for weeks. Asserting he was at that point was futile because there was nothing explicit stating he was. Didn't matter what I thought at that point , I took the absence of evidence and left it at that . Being right didn't matter , because if I would've said he was and he wasn't while losing a leg I would've had an egg on my face.
For someone who states others need to do "research" and talk about "facts" you were quick to assume based off information that wasn't present. That seems very similar to the way you describe leftists.
Didn't matter what he was at the time because it wasn't confirmed. The second we found out my tune switched. Sometimes it better to stay silent, than to jump in to be right.im not even saying you had to say prayers up, but I would've just ignored it and waited for it to be confirmed what happened.
And, you have zero humility so no you wouldn't have. You don't even believe that.
It does matter--common sense is relevant. Maybe you shouldn't have been defending him--you were the one that had to "switch" your tune--not me. Again, anyone in that situation I would have said they were likely drunk....
You can believe or don't believe whatever you want--you believed he was sober so that speaks to "beliefs"
I believed what the new article reportng it mentioned. No one said he was drunk for weeks. Asserting he was at that point was futile because there was nothing explicit stating he was.
For someone who states others need to do "research" and talk about "facts" you were quick to assume based off information that wasn't present. That seems very similar to the way you describe leftists.
So, you blindly believe what you hear in the media instead of applying common sense? Explains or other disagreement
Show me which comment I made that you tak offense with...
ok so im a little confused, the tmz article says the football player was in an uber heading home from a workout, but in interviews he said when he went to help nelson he recognizzed him from a venue earlier. The police reports dont mention anything about him being under the influence and im sure they wouldve blasted him because who is protecting nelson. a very strange story
Might not even know if alcohol.was a factor yet. Truthfully doesn't really matter. He's lucky to be alive sober or not.
So, you blindly believe what you hear in the media instead of applying common sense? Explains or other disagreement
Show me which comment I made that you tak offense with...
I don't blindly follow anything. However, the only reports on a car crash involving one person are the person themselves and a toxicology report.
If the latter isn't being talked about, then I can only go by what the person is saying. And, what I'm referring to was before Nelson even spoke about it, so we really only had the articles reporting the incident. There was much to go off of but "car crash" I left it at that.
So, you blindly believe what you hear in the media instead of applying common sense? Explains or other disagreement
Show me which comment I made that you tak offense with...
I don't blindly follow anything. However, the only reports on a car crash involving one person are the person themselves and a toxicology report.
If the latter isn't being talked about, then I can only go by what the person is saying. And, what I'm referring to was before Nelson even spoke about it, so we really only had the articles reporting the incident. There was much to go off of but "car crash" I left it at that.
Which shows a lack of common sense. You didn't put together someone with alcohol issues was most likely drunk at that time of night when they crashed their vehicle? Did you think toxicology reports are instant?
No I didn't but it's not uncommon for reports on this to have some idea what caused the accident. So the absence of information means I'll just leave it alone, which I did until I knew for a fact.
It could've be something as simple as swerving out the way for a damn deer, we knew nothing official for awhile. Everyone wants to be right.
No I didn't but it's not uncommon for reports on this to have some idea what caused the accident. So the absence of information means I'll just leave it alone, which I did until I knew for a fact.
It could've be something as simple as swerving out the way for a damn deer, we knew nothing official for awhile. Everyone wants to be right.
So, you want reports to speculate when reporting news but not people on social media? The absense of information doesn't eliminate on'e's ability to use common sense
Again--I still don't know what I said you had a problem with. I even said "drunk or not" leaving that as an option--I primarily bashed him for not having insurance and asking for money
That's been clear by what I've been saying, so I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. And, I'm sure the posts I made then and now clarify that. Can only explain the same thing so many times.
He lost me after he wasn't honest about what happened, considering he put up that GoFundMe without being explicit about the details.
He did, however, give money back to whoever requested it and lost a leg. So in the grand scheme, there's nothing to discuss further. He got an extreme of consequence, second to death. There's nothing further to talk about. You choose to support him, or don't, but people wouldn't be satisfied until he passed atp.
And, Tony also got charged with negligent injuring, so apparently someone got hurt with his stupidity, which deserved more of a dragging than it got.
I'm more than happy to bash Tony any time you'd like
If you're taking requests I'd rather you bash your head into a wall.
If Nelson wasnt exposed do you think that he ever is honest and returns the money? He didn't ask for forgiveness and return the money cause he felt bad or he reflected on his errors, he just did it cause he was outed and people where clamoring to him. I get why people would have a dislike for him now.
But I think the scam is the only thing people should hang on to hate on him. He's already paying the price of his accident where luckily he was the only victim. Now let's hope that he has learnt from his errors and takes accountability.
I will say it took like a month for it be officially stated he was drunk and prior to that people were already skeptical and didn't extend any empathy.
Which I think says a lot about the amount of grace they were willing to give him. That's why I was extra annoyed when it turned out to be the case, but there was a vocal majority/minority that didn't care from the start. So I think regardless of what Nelson did he'd still be getting flack. That was simply the cherry on top.
Typical leftist
If Nelson was sober there would have been nothing to criticize. I think everyone still has compassion that he has the medical issues he does resulting from the accident but he can be criticized for his actions while you still "empathize" with him. Just like if Tony or CT or countless others were in an accident that late at night it was a safe assumption he was drunk--which he was VERY drunk.
Tony driving drunk is worse than Nelson because he has kids. Everything Nelson did after the accident is why he's still getting criticism.
Isn't Mattie still bashed here any time her names comes up because of her DUIs?
If he never made the GoFundMe, he wouldn’t be getting this much hate. He was always a fecal person.
Because he knew that if he told the truth from the start that the accident was HIS fault because he was drinking and driving he wouldn't get people giving him as much money which is icky. Also he could have killed someone else by his poor choices... people have the right to be angry.
For the record, I'd be happy to see Nelson return (in an individual season) while I don't want Tony to show up so...
I don't empathize with him.
And, you were one of the ones that immediately. jumped into "he was drunk". You didn't allow any information to progress naturally and there was a bigger gap in us finding that out than anticipated. All we knew is that he was in a bad accident and was in the hospital. You couldn't just held back until all facts were revealed, as opposed to trying to be right.
Because had he he been sober would you have issued an apology ? Would you have said "I jumped the gun?" No, you would've stood ten toes down if someone brought it up.
We've seen him on the show and how his decision making while under the influence is extremely poor. Considering the time of the accident I would have said almost anyone was drunk--definitely those with obvious issues when it comes to drinking. Did you think Nelson was just out and sober? Does that sound like the Nelson we've seen?
Yes, if he had been sober I would have acknowledged I was wrong but there was zero concern about that happening.
Didn't matter what he was at the time because it wasn't confirmed. The second we found out my tune switched. Sometimes it better to stay silent, than to jump in to be right.im not even saying you had to say prayers up, but I would've just ignored it and waited for it to be confirmed what happened.
And, you have zero humility so no you wouldn't have. You don't even believe that.
We don't need this loser back. We have Leo now
It does matter--common sense is relevant. Maybe you shouldn't have been defending him--you were the one that had to "switch" your tune--not me. Again, anyone in that situation I would have said they were likely drunk....
You can believe or don't believe whatever you want--you believed he was sober so that speaks to "beliefs"
From 2 years ago...nothing has changed
Actually if you read the thread--I primarily bashed him for not having health insurance lol
I believed what the news article reportng it mentioned. No one said he was drunk for weeks. Asserting he was at that point was futile because there was nothing explicit stating he was. Didn't matter what I thought at that point , I took the absence of evidence and left it at that . Being right didn't matter , because if I would've said he was and he wasn't while losing a leg I would've had an egg on my face.
For someone who states others need to do "research" and talk about "facts" you were quick to assume based off information that wasn't present. That seems very similar to the way you describe leftists.
I wonder if Nelson is sober now...
So, you blindly believe what you hear in the media instead of applying common sense? Explains or other disagreement
Show me which comment I made that you tak offense with...
Literally what I said at the start
As long as he's not driving while drunk it doesn't matter--nothing wrong with the drinking responsibly.
I don't blindly follow anything. However, the only reports on a car crash involving one person are the person themselves and a toxicology report.
If the latter isn't being talked about, then I can only go by what the person is saying. And, what I'm referring to was before Nelson even spoke about it, so we really only had the articles reporting the incident. There was much to go off of but "car crash" I left it at that.
He said he was , but this was forever ago.
I know he was addicted to painkillers and he had to stop.
Which shows a lack of common sense. You didn't put together someone with alcohol issues was most likely drunk at that time of night when they crashed their vehicle? Did you think toxicology reports are instant?
No I didn't but it's not uncommon for reports on this to have some idea what caused the accident. So the absence of information means I'll just leave it alone, which I did until I knew for a fact.
It could've be something as simple as swerving out the way for a damn deer, we knew nothing official for awhile. Everyone wants to be right.
So, you want reports to speculate when reporting news but not people on social media? The absense of information doesn't eliminate on'e's ability to use common sense
Again--I still don't know what I said you had a problem with. I even said "drunk or not" leaving that as an option--I primarily bashed him for not having insurance and asking for money
I didn't want speculation, I wanted facts.
That's been clear by what I've been saying, so I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. And, I'm sure the posts I made then and now clarify that. Can only explain the same thing so many times.
You'd think a lawyer would understand innocent until proven guilty.
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