The Challenge: All Stars 4- Episode Discussion Thread

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**** y'all arguing about dumb shit, let's focus on hating on that white girl Alana or whatever her name is. The Hooters girl, WHY WAS SHE CAST.

 

I was attacking your flimsy arguments, not you personally.  That's the only thing me or you can say about each other, how we feel about this.

Fair point, I initially misread what you wrote.

Having said that, you are still responding to points no one has made (such as saying Kam doesn't need to prove herself in eliminations, when not a single poster here has said she does). That's the type of thing leading to confusion.

That goes back to y'all saying Kam is scared, but that being hypocritical because she's  calling other people scared. Nothing she has referred to as "scary" had anything to do with anyone going into elimination. She called Cara scary for not wanting to vote Rachel because it might cause her to lose her star.

Scared, in this context, means unwilling to take a shot. It has zero to do with going into the sand with someone (and no those aren't one in the same, but can be related ). Kam not randomly calling Laurel out to face in elimination doesn't fit in this context. Especially , if she's right where everyone needs her to be ... starless. The only rationale yall can use for Kam being hypocritical with being "scared" is not going into an elimination with a strong competitior. And I'm saying she doesn't have to prove herself in that aspect , so how would it benefit her facing Laurel? Because the only thing I can muster up per what you're saying is pride. Otherwise, she has no reason to when she's not an immediate threat.

**** y'all arguing about dumb shit, let's focus on hating on that white girl Alana or whatever her name is. The Hooters girl, WHY WAS SHE CAST.

its really hard to entertain this when you have ashley kelsey as your profile pic lol

Also yeah Averey was the one moving scared in general. I think we can all agree with that.

Halfway through and I'm bored. A phone call home and a way too long challenge Zzz...editing sucks cause you can tell it could have been good.

Laurel's lack of self-worth and self-love is really sad. She is unbelievably insecure.

Has Averey's voice always sounded like that?

 

**** y'all arguing about dumb shit, let's focus on hating on that white girl Alana or whatever her name is. The Hooters girl, WHY WAS SHE CAST.

its really hard to entertain this when you have ashley kelsey as your profile pic lol

Ashley Marie Kelsey

 

**** y'all arguing about dumb shit, let's focus on hating on that white girl Alana or whatever her name is. The Hooters girl, WHY WAS SHE CAST.

its really hard to entertain this when you have ashley kelsey as your profile pic lol

This clock is telling me it's lunch time! (Hoping for a #nooner)

Guess I'm using paraflop since the site I been using haven't uploaded the episode yet

At least we got some good drama. Kefla & Tina are gone and Flora is being underutilized so it's gonna be a snoozefest from here on out.

Guess I'm using paraflop since the site I been using haven't uploaded the episode yet

And it's already a bust. Anybody got a link? Smile

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Queen Laurel immediately switching from crying in Cara's arm to hating her LMAOOOO she is so funny

I feel like every Veronica confessional this season is "Tina sucks at this game" LMAOOO is Tina not annoyed by this?

Ayanna really was all stars 4. Flora would've been too if they showed her fight(s).

Laurel Stucky has got to be one of the most entertaining challengers of all time

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

At least we got some good drama. Kefla & Tina are gone and Flora is being underutilized so it's gonna be a snoozefest from here on out.

Ayanna and Jasmine being gone hurt, too. Averey really could have helped (and justified her casting) had she replaced Kam in this elimination, but oh well.

Y'all my nooner was lousy, so I was actually thinking about The Challenge during SMDH. Anyway, Cara didn't initially target Kam, she just tried to protect her star. Cara also still hasn't targeted Laurel. Cara also hasn't said anything critical of them personally or even game wise (and has even praised Kam as "smart"). Meanwhile Kam and Laurel have both targeted Cara and worked to get the house against her. Kam has also said Cara doesn't play smart. Cara has also been supporting Laurel emotionally, and at the same time wondering where "beast" Laurel is; if Cara were as shady and selfish as people were making her out to be, she'd actually be encouraging things with Laurel and Nicole since it's throwing Laurel off her game.

Queen Laurel immediately switching from crying in Cara's arm to hating her LMAOOOO she is so funny

This, but also playing chess with Cara right before the deliberation. (At first I thought it might be editing, but they were in the same outfits they were in for deliberation, so it likely was right before.)

I feel like every Veronica confessional this season is "Tina sucks at this game" LMAOOO is Tina not annoyed by this?

Tina is pretty honest about her lack of political game, so I don't think she cares because she knows her strengths and weaknesses.

Laurel is insane lol. She went from crying to Cara to hating and plotting her on her downfall

Kam is so queen making them do what she want lol. But I suppose it does benefit their game to have Cara's star stolen

Averey shouldn't talk about not wanting to be a pawn for people's games just to play scared and end up be a pawn for somebody's game lol. She could've made an impact by screwing with Cara and Kam by easily take out Tina and steal Cara's star.

Am I missing something? Cara was spreading lies about Kam and Leroy? Why the editors not showing this? Speaking of which, I think an argument from one of the promos was edited out

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Averey shouldn't talk about not wanting to be a pawn for people's games just to play scared and end up be a pawn for somebody's game lol. She could've made an impact by screwing with Cara and Kam by easily take out Tina and steal Cara's star.

She would have [deservedly] booked her place on years of Challenges to come with that move, but alas...

Am I missing something? Cara was spreading lies about Kam and Leroy? Why the editors not showing this?

That was definitely out of nowhere, and part of me wonders if it's something Laurel planted and that's why there was no footage of Cara actually doing it. As frustrated as Cara is with Kam, to our knowledge she still hasn't made any personal attacks on Kam and has even praised her game as "smart."

Do anybody find Adam weird?

Paulie just posted video of Cara having ice cream cake for breakfast, and my fandom is now sealed airtight.

If someone is subscribed to the kamroy patreon, can yall share with the class what lies cara was spreading? 

Averey shouldn't talk about not wanting to be a pawn for people's games just to play scared and end up be a pawn for somebody's game lol. She could've made an impact by screwing with Cara and Kam by easily take out Tina and steal Cara's star.

The only two things that justify Averey's decision:

1.) If she angers Kam by taking her spot and "stealing" Kam's star, Kam immediately ostracizes Averey from the house and switches her target from Cara to Averey. Kam plays smart, but she can also play petty.

2.) Averey's basing her choice off of the Skulls format. The Skulls of 35 and 36, everybody had plenty of time to go get one. She's probably assuming there would be a double elimination or two coming and she could get her pick of Flora or Veronica without angering Kam/Laurel.

She should've told Kam before elimination that she's going down no matter what and ask her if she wanted to go against her or not. Kam would respect Averey coming down and taking Tina's spot and taking her out. If she takes the easy route and takes out Tina, Kam's fury would be ENDLESS.

If someone is subscribed to the kamroy patreon, can yall share with the class what lies cara was spreading? 

They stopped doing recaps weeks ago due to being too busy with parenting and work

 

Averey shouldn't talk about not wanting to be a pawn for people's games just to play scared and end up be a pawn for somebody's game lol. She could've made an impact by screwing with Cara and Kam by easily take out Tina and steal Cara's star.

The only two things that justify Averey's decision:

1.) If she angers Kam by taking her spot and "stealing" Kam's star, Kam immediately ostracizes Averey from the house and switches her target from Cara to Averey. Kam plays smart, but she can also play petty.

2.) Averey's basing her choice off of the Skulls format. The Skulls of 35 and 36, everybody had plenty of time to go get one. She's probably assuming there would be a double elimination or two coming and she could get her pick of Flora or Veronica without angering Kam/Laurel.

She should've told Kam before elimination that she's going down no matter what and ask her if she wanted to go against her or not. Kam would respect Averey coming down and taking Tina's spot and taking her out. If she takes the easy route and takes out Tina, Kam's fury would be ENDLESS.

She could've snatched Veronica's star and nobody would give a ****.

Edit: Well, Kam would but Cara would still be her main target. 

 

 

Averey shouldn't talk about not wanting to be a pawn for people's games just to play scared and end up be a pawn for somebody's game lol. She could've made an impact by screwing with Cara and Kam by easily take out Tina and steal Cara's star.

The only two things that justify Averey's decision:

1.) If she angers Kam by taking her spot and "stealing" Kam's star, Kam immediately ostracizes Averey from the house and switches her target from Cara to Averey. Kam plays smart, but she can also play petty.

2.) Averey's basing her choice off of the Skulls format. The Skulls of 35 and 36, everybody had plenty of time to go get one. She's probably assuming there would be a double elimination or two coming and she could get her pick of Flora or Veronica without angering Kam/Laurel.

She should've told Kam before elimination that she's going down no matter what and ask her if she wanted to go against her or not. Kam would respect Averey coming down and taking Tina's spot and taking her out. If she takes the easy route and takes out Tina, Kam's fury would be ENDLESS.

She could've snatched Veronica's star and nobody would give a ****.

Edit: Well, Kam would but Cara would still be her main target. 

Kam's on a power trip this game. Swapping her out and messing up her near-end-of-game plan to get a star might be enough for Kam to completely switch her target from Cara to Averey. The only way Averey gets out of this clean is if she went up to Kam and Leroy ahead of time to tell them she's going down no matter what and if Kam wanted to go against her. Could she have beaten Kam at that puzzle? Maybe.

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