Fiona I don't understand how the numbers thing fell apart so easily either. I guess because bergie was out that they need not bother w it anymore? Or maybe Sandra caught on that Phaedra was a traitor and realized she'd rather have her in her corner than Parvati? Idk
The numbers fell apart when Bergie was voted out because Peter wouldn't have done that
lol they never cared if peter was a traitor lol, sandra cracked the game and knew it was a numbers game so all she has to is keep the known traitor till the end...dummy
lol they never cared if peter was a traitor lol, sandra cracked the game and knew it was a numbers game so all she has to is keep the known traitor till the end...dummy
Well... it's not an unknown fact that Sandra isn't the brightest bulb in the box
I hope Parv plays again when she's in a better headspace. You could tell the divorce and loss of her brother have really taken a toll. I hope she finds her spark again<3
I hope Parv plays again when she's in a better headspace. You could tell the divorce and loss of her brother have really taken a toll. I hope she finds her spark again<3
Exactly. She has gone through so much. Yet she's still so strong. Goddess Parvati <3
Fiona I don't understand how the numbers thing fell apart so easily either. I guess because bergie was out that they need not bother w it anymore? Or maybe Sandra caught on that Phaedra was a traitor and realized she'd rather have her in her corner than Parvati? Idk
The numbers fell apart when Bergie was voted out because Peter wouldn't have done that
lol they never cared if peter was a traitor lol, sandra cracked the game and knew it was a numbers game so all she has to is keep the known traitor till the end...dummy
Fiona I don't understand how the numbers thing fell apart so easily either. I guess because bergie was out that they need not bother w it anymore? Or maybe Sandra caught on that Phaedra was a traitor and realized she'd rather have her in her corner than Parvati? Idk
The numbers fell apart when Bergie was voted out because Peter wouldn't have done that
lol they never cared if peter was a traitor lol, sandra cracked the game and knew it was a numbers game so all she has to is keep the known traitor till the end...dummy
Right. I still don't understand why anyone in here or in the game is caught up in whether or not Peter or Parvati were a traitor or faithful. EVERYONE knew Parvati was a traitor. The point is if you keep someone you know is a traitor until the end, you can banish them and take the money. Now there will be 2 traitors to figure out before the end (if not more because if they banish another one, there will be another recruit). In terms of Sandra and that alliance, Parvati was not looking to murder them so they also had protection with her as a traitor. They aren't guaranteed that now.
I see a lot of people on social media are still attacking Trishelle because she targeted Phaedra. Meanwhile EVERY SINGLE THING she said about Phaedra was accurate.
Eh easy for Will to say from your couch or whatever; I am glad Janelle (and Rachel) ate him up. He also didn't really offer any actual explanation for his criticism (i.e. what they did poorly or could have done better). It was also inaccurate of him to say "anyone can get lucky once" considering Dan won BB once and then made the final his second time, and Cody did the reverse. So, each did well more than once. Additionally Janelle made the top 3 two times, which to me is doing well more than once.
I would love to know how Will thinks MJ, Sheree, etc bowing out of the challenge was strategic and potentially helped their games, though. Again, no explanation from him.
Dr will didn't lie. Janelle Rachel and Cody don't have it. They're just former comp queens who are now out of shape and suck when production doesn't rig in their favor. Dan however is still that gworl he just fumbled this time.
Fiona I don't understand how the numbers thing fell apart so easily either. I guess because bergie was out that they need not bother w it anymore? Or maybe Sandra caught on that Phaedra was a traitor and realized she'd rather have her in her corner than Parvati? Idk
The numbers fell apart when Bergie was voted out because Peter wouldn't have done that
But the numbers weren't about whether or not Peter was a faithful. The numbers were about Peter having a group of 5 who were protecting each other and excluding the others. The other people - who totaled 7 at the time - would have had a majority if they stuck together. If that 7 banishes/murders Peter's group (which Bergie's murder is a start of) and gets to the final 7 and knows Parvati is a traitor, then they can banish Parvati at that point and maybe only have to figure out 1 traitor to win the money. Now they still have to figure out 2 traitors, and they banished the traitor they were most confident about.
Hell that group of 7 knowing Peter and the others were faithfuls should be an advantage and a reason to banish them. If the end is all faithfuls, you have to split the money. Why not take out 5 people who you know are faithfuls but aren't including you? That's more people gone you don't have to split money with.
Fiona I don't understand how the numbers thing fell apart so easily either. I guess because bergie was out that they need not bother w it anymore? Or maybe Sandra caught on that Phaedra was a traitor and realized she'd rather have her in her corner than Parvati? Idk
The numbers fell apart when Bergie was voted out because Peter wouldn't have done that
But the numbers weren't about whether or not Peter was a faithful. The numbers were about Peter having a group of 5 who were protecting each other and excluding the others. The other people - who totaled 7 at the time - would have had a majority if they stuck together. If that 7 banishes/murders Peter's group (which Bergie's murder is a start of) and gets to the final 7 and knows Parvati is a traitor, then they can banish Parvati at that point and maybe only have to figure out 1 traitor to win the money. Now they still have to figure out 2 traitors, and they banished the traitor they were most confident about.
Hell that group of 7 knowing Peter and the others were faithfuls should be an advantage and a reason to banish them. If the end is all faithfuls, you have to split the money. Why not take out 5 people who you know are faithfuls but aren't including you? That's more people gone you don't have to split money with.
For some, the Housewives aren't looking at this strictly as numbers which is why it matters. Every decision is impactful.
Fiona I don't understand how the numbers thing fell apart so easily either. I guess because bergie was out that they need not bother w it anymore? Or maybe Sandra caught on that Phaedra was a traitor and realized she'd rather have her in her corner than Parvati? Idk
The numbers fell apart when Bergie was voted out because Peter wouldn't have done that
But the numbers weren't about whether or not Peter was a faithful. The numbers were about Peter having a group of 5 who were protecting each other and excluding the others. The other people - who totaled 7 at the time - would have had a majority if they stuck together. If that 7 banishes/murders Peter's group (which Bergie's murder is a start of) and gets to the final 7 and knows Parvati is a traitor, then they can banish Parvati at that point and maybe only have to figure out 1 traitor to win the money. Now they still have to figure out 2 traitors, and they banished the traitor they were most confident about.
Hell that group of 7 knowing Peter and the others were faithfuls should be an advantage and a reason to banish them. If the end is all faithfuls, you have to split the money. Why not take out 5 people who you know are faithfuls but aren't including you? That's more people gone you don't have to split money with.
For some, the Housewives aren't looking at this strictly as numbers which is why it matters. Every decision is impactful.
I know they haven't been, but last episode Sandra seemingly broke it down for them why the numbers were important. It felt like a shift, and Sandra even posted about it on social media which seemed to confirm the shift. Then suddenly in this episode that wasn't a thing, and it's like the pool table discussion never happened.
Yeah so whether it was the edit or everyone had temporary dementia idk it was weird and I still can't for the life of me understand how we went from the Peter pal group being so tight to some of them voting a completely different way if they were truly that tight knit they woulda follow Pete, right? it almost seems like we missed part of an episode
Fiona I don't understand how the numbers thing fell apart so easily either. I guess because bergie was out that they need not bother w it anymore? Or maybe Sandra caught on that Phaedra was a traitor and realized she'd rather have her in her corner than Parvati? Idk
The numbers fell apart when Bergie was voted out because Peter wouldn't have done that
But the numbers weren't about whether or not Peter was a faithful. The numbers were about Peter having a group of 5 who were protecting each other and excluding the others. The other people - who totaled 7 at the time - would have had a majority if they stuck together. If that 7 banishes/murders Peter's group (which Bergie's murder is a start of) and gets to the final 7 and knows Parvati is a traitor, then they can banish Parvati at that point and maybe only have to figure out 1 traitor to win the money. Now they still have to figure out 2 traitors, and they banished the traitor they were most confident about.
Hell that group of 7 knowing Peter and the others were faithfuls should be an advantage and a reason to banish them. If the end is all faithfuls, you have to split the money. Why not take out 5 people who you know are faithfuls but aren't including you? That's more people gone you don't have to split money with.
For some, the Housewives aren't looking at this strictly as numbers which is why it matters. Every decision is impactful.
I know they haven't been, but last episode Sandra seemingly broke it down for them why the numbers were important. It felt like a shift, and Sandra even posted about it on social media which seemed to confirm the shift. Then suddenly in this episode that wasn't a thing, and it's like the pool table discussion never happened.
She didn't "only" explain the numbers--she also was saying Peter could be a traitor. They aren't gamers and numbers alone isn't going to work with them. The vote off ruined what happened at the pool table because numbers were no longer intimidating.
Yeah so whether it was the edit or everyone had temporary dementia idk it was weird and I still can't for the life of me understand how we went from the Peter pal group being so tight to some of them voting a completely different way if they were truly that tight knit they woulda follow Pete, right? it almost seems like we missed part of an episode
I think what changed was likely Sandra wanting to ensure she bested Parvati again. Parvati does sort of clock Sandra in her interview with EW.com:
So how are you and Sandra now?
Yeah, we're fine. Sandra is going to be who Sandra is forever, and I think I'm finding her very entertaining watching the show. And we just saw each other in New York. We did a bunch of little segments together for the Peacock press, and it was fine. She's funny, she's a character. She will always want to have other people say she's better than me, and that is fine with me. I'm fine with that.
She did call herself the queen of the castle after you were banished.
Of course, she must. She really wants that title, and you know what? Let her have it. She can have it.
She also says Dan's murder of Bergie is what did her in, which we all knew. She clocked him in the interview as well:
I would say he fumbled a lot of the balls that he was handed, and he thought he was better than he was. His ego wouldn't let him hear any other perspective.
She also clocks Peter and herself; she really did know what was going on:
He got caught up in his own kind of enthusiasm. I think he's overenthusiastic and he was like a dog with a bone. He wasn't flexible enough. When I offered him the opportunity to be a Traitor, that would've been a really good move for him. He could have thrown me under the bus immediately. He was already doing that.
It was a Hail Mary for me. I was doing a lot of those. I was playing a really messy kind of loose game and I was like, let's see what happens if Peter says yes. I had no idea what I would do with that, but I thought it would be fun to turn him. And then when he said no I was like, oh, his rigidity is going to make him suffer in the rest of this game. He didn't have any ability to adapt socially. He was too intense.
There was this thing happening with the men in the castle where it got to this point of "We are honorable and righteous and we are going to play this game the right way, and that is taking out the liars."
This too:
My only strategy moving forward is if these people can figure out that it's a good idea for them to keep the Traitor that they know in the house and then seek the other Traitors, then that will protect them.
She can't blame Dan lol. She played it pretty horrible herself. She's still Queen and can do no wrong to me though.
She does blame herself, too, as evidenced by her quote "I was playing a really messy kind of loose game." Having said that, we all questioned Dan's move to murder Bergie so it's not incorrect for Parvati to say it, too. It was Dan's decision, and it definitely ramped up the heat on Dan and Parvati.
Bergie said Kevin started questioning peter when he said they tried to recruit, and bergie said well if we make it to the final 4 and hes still there, we have to vote him out, so bergie thinks his comment fueled kevins suspicions of peter even more
lol they never cared if peter was a traitor lol, sandra cracked the game and knew it was a numbers game so all she has to is keep the known traitor till the end...dummy
Well... it's not an unknown fact that Sandra isn't the brightest bulb in the box
If ChampionDarrell was Bananas that would make a LOT of sense...
Rumor is CD is the son of you and KVM.
He gagged her, I was like damn why you go so hard on her?
I hope Parv plays again when she's in a better headspace. You could tell the divorce and loss of her brother have really taken a toll. I hope she finds her spark again<3
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https://ew.com/the-traitors-will-kirby-explains-big-brother-futility-on-the-show-8584001he's not that wrong about BB players
" I was born with a bad personality and raised with a ****** attitude" lol
and I liked the dogs and I like when Alan's little dog is in scenes too all dressed up cute to match him
Sandra didn't. Others did.
https://ew.com/the-traitors-johnny-bananas-could-be-revived-in-future-season-8581624
unfortunately
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Right. I still don't understand why anyone in here or in the game is caught up in whether or not Peter or Parvati were a traitor or faithful. EVERYONE knew Parvati was a traitor. The point is if you keep someone you know is a traitor until the end, you can banish them and take the money. Now there will be 2 traitors to figure out before the end (if not more because if they banish another one, there will be another recruit). In terms of Sandra and that alliance, Parvati was not looking to murder them so they also had protection with her as a traitor. They aren't guaranteed that now.
I see a lot of people on social media are still attacking Trishelle because she targeted Phaedra. Meanwhile EVERY SINGLE THING she said about Phaedra was accurate.
Eh easy for Will to say from your couch or whatever; I am glad Janelle (and Rachel) ate him up. He also didn't really offer any actual explanation for his criticism (i.e. what they did poorly or could have done better). It was also inaccurate of him to say "anyone can get lucky once" considering Dan won BB once and then made the final his second time, and Cody did the reverse. So, each did well more than once. Additionally Janelle made the top 3 two times, which to me is doing well more than once.
I would love to know how Will thinks MJ, Sheree, etc bowing out of the challenge was strategic and potentially helped their games, though. Again, no explanation from him.
Dr will didn't lie. Janelle Rachel and Cody don't have it. They're just former comp queens who are now out of shape and suck when production doesn't rig in their favor. Dan however is still that gworl he just fumbled this time.
But the numbers weren't about whether or not Peter was a faithful. The numbers were about Peter having a group of 5 who were protecting each other and excluding the others. The other people - who totaled 7 at the time - would have had a majority if they stuck together. If that 7 banishes/murders Peter's group (which Bergie's murder is a start of) and gets to the final 7 and knows Parvati is a traitor, then they can banish Parvati at that point and maybe only have to figure out 1 traitor to win the money. Now they still have to figure out 2 traitors, and they banished the traitor they were most confident about.
Hell that group of 7 knowing Peter and the others were faithfuls should be an advantage and a reason to banish them. If the end is all faithfuls, you have to split the money. Why not take out 5 people who you know are faithfuls but aren't including you? That's more people gone you don't have to split money with.
For some, the Housewives aren't looking at this strictly as numbers which is why it matters. Every decision is impactful.
I know they haven't been, but last episode Sandra seemingly broke it down for them why the numbers were important. It felt like a shift, and Sandra even posted about it on social media which seemed to confirm the shift. Then suddenly in this episode that wasn't a thing, and it's like the pool table discussion never happened.
Yeah so whether it was the edit or everyone had temporary dementia idk it was weird and I still can't for the life of me understand how we went from the Peter pal group being so tight to some of them voting a completely different way if they were truly that tight knit they woulda follow Pete, right? it almost seems like we missed part of an episode
She didn't "only" explain the numbers--she also was saying Peter could be a traitor. They aren't gamers and numbers alone isn't going to work with them. The vote off ruined what happened at the pool table because numbers were no longer intimidating.
I think what changed was likely Sandra wanting to ensure she bested Parvati again. Parvati does sort of clock Sandra in her interview with EW.com:
She also says Dan's murder of Bergie is what did her in, which we all knew. She clocked him in the interview as well:
She also clocks Peter and herself; she really did know what was going on:
This too:
I find it funny they believe Dan when he wrote Phaedra's name down. How would they know if he was being honest?
She can't blame Dan lol. She played it pretty horrible herself. She's still Queen and can do no wrong to me though.
Only have like two Survivor/BB people. The rest can stay home!
You can ask that about literally all of these players with any move they make, though.
She does blame herself, too, as evidenced by her quote "I was playing a really messy kind of loose game." Having said that, we all questioned Dan's move to murder Bergie so it's not incorrect for Parvati to say it, too. It was Dan's decision, and it definitely ramped up the heat on Dan and Parvati.
Bergie said Kevin started questioning peter when he said they tried to recruit, and bergie said well if we make it to the final 4 and hes still there, we have to vote him out, so bergie thinks his comment fueled kevins suspicions of peter even more
Last night I was trolling about Sandra but the more I think about it...she really is so jealous and insecure when it comes to Parv.
sandra is a much better player in every way on both shows
good this is a challenge board bc we disagree on everything about everything else
If Sandra herself believed that she wouldn't need to run her mouth, nor would she need to target Parvati in these shows.
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