Not a fan of Laurel but I'm cool with her winning since she hasn't won in awhile and better her than Nicole.
I'm happy Averey and Flora made it as far as they did. This sounds like it's going to be Cara Maria's epic comeback season. Hope she took out Rachel or Kam in something physical. We haven't had an epic female physical contact elimination for All Stars yet.
I hate Laurel so much I would have rather Nicole winning. This show continues the 22 year long tradition of winners I hate. I think the only winner that I've ever been happy with was Yes.
Out of everyone you like Yes lol
Yes is not my all time favorite person or anything like that I'm just saying out of all the winners this show has produced in 20+ years Yes is the only one I can say I like. Everyone else who has won I hate.
Yes is not my all time favorite person or anything like that I'm just saying out of all the winners this show has produced in 20+ years Yes is the only one I can say I like. Everyone else who has won I hate.
In 20+ years? So not Jamie Chung or Sarah Greyson or Holly Shand or Theo Von or Timmy Beggy or Coral or Aviv Melmed or countless others. In over 20 years Yes is the only winner you don't hate? Do you literally only like the worst competitors? But then you hate Katie and Rachel Moyal so maybe you just hate everyone.
Not a fan of Laurel but I'm cool with her winning since she hasn't won in awhile and better her than Nicole.
I'm happy Averey and Flora made it as far as they did. This sounds like it's going to be Cara Maria's epic comeback season. Hope she took out Rachel or Kam in something physical. We haven't had an epic female physical contact elimination for All Stars yet.
I hate Laurel so much I would have rather Nicole winning. This show continues the 22 year long tradition of winners I hate. I think the only winner that I've ever been happy with was Yes.
Pls say you're joking. Pls say sike. Pls give us something that indicate you don't mean that
No I've always been loud & proud on this board for my Laurel hate. She's in the same class as John, Camila and Cara as far as I'm concerned. All raging ego maniacs who ruined this show.
The hate can't be that bad to prefer a Zanatta win tho
who is gonna be wallpaper this season? I'm guessing ryan, derek, and averey
You just know when Averey, Flora, Jay, and Ryan were in the purge, production was just licking their chops.
Flora at least will hopefully get her fight with Nicole.
I really hope Averey was just froze out because she competed well and was a threat. If she gets the "clueless about the game" edit, I fear no matter how well she competed, she'll be completely edited out.
I agree however this show in particular has horrible winners. I had to go all the way back to Landon to find one with some kind of redeemable quality
Thanks for bringing up Landon. Let me present my case for why I didn't really care for him winning. Did anyone else watch RW Philly or was I the only one? Landon wasn't the best guy in that house. And the Landon/Shavonna relationship drama all season long just drained me. I didn't want to see them ever again. So when he showed up on The Challenges I didn't really care. Now of course he is the waaaay better than most of the men who wound up doing the show later on.
Yes is not my all time favorite person or anything like that I'm just saying out of all the winners this show has produced in 20+ years Yes is the only one I can say I like. Everyone else who has won I hate.
In 20+ years? So not Jamie Chung or Sarah Greyson or Holly Shand or Theo Von or Timmy Beggy or Coral or Aviv Melmed or countless others. In over 20 years Yes is the only winner you don't hate? Do you literally only like the worst competitors? But then you hate Katie and Rachel Moyal so maybe you just hate everyone.
Jamie Chung was cool but I really wanted the Bad A's team to win Inferno 2. One of the most stacked teams in terms of entertainment value with all of the Mean Girls in that final but the good guys win so that's why I was disappointed with that one.
The Gauntlet was not a season I was that into so the winners were like whatever to me. All these years later I can appreciate Sarah Greyson for her record she still holds today so I'll give you that one.
I have said that the few times I was happy with the winners was BOT Seasons so that's Timmy & Coral, 21 years ago!
Aviv? Nah. I hated that entire season so of course I wasn't going to be happy with her win. I barely even knew her.
Holly Shand was cool but she's kind of wallpaper-ish.
I don't hate Katie and Rachel M. Are you serious? The minute all those Austin pieces of shit showed up on Fresh Meat I was turned off to all of them. They can kick rocks the entire cast.
Random but Rachel Moyal is one of the least deserving challenge winners ever. She was also invisible that season... it should've been Lacey. She would've been carried to the final by the Austin alliance and won instead <3
I was gonna compare Rachel M to Ibis but at least Ibis was a big part of why the rookies won their final. Rachel M the chubby veteran... I'm glad she never came back. Literally wallpaper or more like wall dust.
Random but Rachel Moyal is one of the least deserving challenge winners ever. She was also invisible that season... it should've been Lacey. She would've been carried to the final by the Austin alliance and won instead <3
I was gonna compare Rachel M to Ibis but at least Ibis was a big part of why the rookies won their final. Rachel M the chubby veteran... I'm glad she never came back. Literally wallpaper or more like wall dust.
Ibis is a close second if Rachel is the most undeserving. Although Ibis did eat half the food in the final.
Yes is not my all time favorite person or anything like that I'm just saying out of all the winners this show has produced in 20+ years Yes is the only one I can say I like. Everyone else who has won I hate.
In 20+ years? So not Jamie Chung or Sarah Greyson or Holly Shand or Theo Von or Timmy Beggy or Coral or Aviv Melmed or countless others. In over 20 years Yes is the only winner you don't hate? Do you literally only like the worst competitors? But then you hate Katie and Rachel Moyal so maybe you just hate everyone.
Jamie Chung was cool but I really wanted the Bad A's team to win Inferno 2. One of the most stacked teams in terms of entertainment value with all of the Mean Girls in that final but the good guys win so that's why I was disappointed with that one.
The Gauntlet was not a season I was that into so the winners were like whatever to me. All these years later I can appreciate Sarah Greyson for her record she still holds today so I'll give you that one.
I have said that the few times I was happy with the winners was BOT Seasons so that's Timmy & Coral, 21 years ago!
Aviv? Nah. I hated that entire season so of course I wasn't going to be happy with her win. I barely even knew her.
Holly Shand was cool but she's kind of wallpaper-ish.
I don't hate Katie and Rachel M. Are you serious? The minute all those Austin pieces of shit showed up on Fresh Meat I was turned off to all of them. They can kick rocks the entire cast.
So--20 years later why are you watching?
And you realize almost everyone on the Bad A's team on Inferno 2 won after that, right? Abram, CT, Derrick, Rachel and Tonya. So you wanted them to win then but then hated them after?
And if you can't like Landon then you just hate everyone. Landon's 20 times the person Yes is.
Timmy won The Inferno not Seasons which was less than 20 years ago.
I've quit watching the main show I only watch all Stars now.
But Tina didn't win & she was the main one I was pulling for. It's a preference I wanted them to win and the other team won.
Again did you watch RW Philly? Landon was anything but likable that season. It's not my problem that you have such a problem with Yes. What's not to like about him? He barely says anything. Sorry if I don't usually like the winner of this show. Move on it's not the end of the world.
Was thinking and wondering do I really hate the winners of every single season and a glaring omission was Ashley Mitchell! How could I forget?! Invasion is the season responsible for bringing me back to the show. After not watching Rivals 3, I loved the rookie cast from Invasions. Season felt fresh without the vets. And the best of all was the winner. Ashley calling her mom to tell her that she won with that country music playing in the background was so amazing. Then again on Final Reckoning. So Yes, Ashley, Cynthia and Jon Brennan are winners that I loved. Few and far between.
I've quit watching the main show I only watch all Stars now.
But Tina didn't win & she was the main one I was pulling for. It's a preference I wanted them to win and the other team won.
Again did you watch RW Philly? Landon was anything but likable that season. It's not my problem that you have such a problem with Yes. What's not to like about him? He barely says anything. Sorry if I don't usually like the winner of this show. Move on it's not the end of the world.
I hope you mean 15+ years because theres a ton of likeable OG winners; Jamie Chung, Holly Shand, Timmy, Dan Renzi, Darrell, Roni, Sarah G., Jamie M, Landon,.....Veronica (acquired taste) lol
You guys aren't fully understanding. I just wanted the other teams to win most seasons. I love Jamie Chung, for example but I was rooting for the other team that season. Same for Battle of the Sexes Jamie Murray was great that season but I wanted the women to win (Ruthie, Ellen, Lori as champs? I'd cream my pants), The Gauntlet 2 Alton is fine but I wanted the vets to win, etc. etc. it's not that I dislike some of the winners it's just usually the teams I wanted to win didn't. Now it's become more individual so the chances of someone I was rooting for winning are even less. With the current age of Challenges I wanted anyone but John, Camila, Laurel and Cara to win and guess what they have won a majority of the seasons.
You guys aren't fully understanding. I just wanted the other teams to win most seasons. I love Jamie Chung, for example but I was rooting for the other team that season. Same for Battle of the Sexes Jamie Murray was great that season but I wanted the women to win (Ruthie, Ellen, Lori as champs? I'd cream my pants), The Gauntlet 2 Alton is fine but I wanted the vets to win, etc. etc. it's not that I dislike some of the winners it's just usually the teams I wanted to win didn't. Now it's become more individual so the chances of someone I was rooting for winning are even less. With the current age of Challenges I wanted anyone but John, Camila, Laurel and Cara to win and guess what they have won a majority of the seasons.
OOooooh. Gotcha. Yes that makes more sense. In that case I agree with you, All-Stars one has been the first season in a MINUTE that someone I wanted to win won. There have been some bright spots though. Happy that Landon won FM2, THRILLED Rachel cameback and won Duel II, was rooting for the Red Team on Cutthroat because I thought it was Brad's turn. Was also happy it was Amber over the other girls in the final for DA too. But yes recently its been a parade of disapintment. Dirty XXX was a rough final
Inferno winning team is insane. You had Katie, Kendal, Darrell, Holly, and Veronica all win together. That almost brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it. So sad to see how far from grace it's fallen and the best seasons aren't even available on Paraflop Minus to relive
And you realize almost everyone on the Bad A's team on Inferno 2 won after that, right? Abram, CT, Derrick, Rachel and Tonya. So you wanted them to win then but then hated them after?
And if you can't like Landon then you just hate everyone. Landon's 20 times the person Yes is.
Timmy won The Inferno not Seasons which was less than 20 years ago.
Your hatred of Yes needs to be studied lol. Did he take one of your women back in the day or something? Like you don't have to necessarily like him but there are many men that have been on this show that are far worse than him yet you never mention them but keep mentioning him. Unless you're just jealous he's aging like fine wine
You guys aren't fully understanding. I just wanted the other teams to win most seasons. I love Jamie Chung, for example but I was rooting for the other team that season. Same for Battle of the Sexes Jamie Murray was great that season but I wanted the women to win (Ruthie, Ellen, Lori as champs? I'd cream my pants), The Gauntlet 2 Alton is fine but I wanted the vets to win, etc. etc. it's not that I dislike some of the winners it's just usually the teams I wanted to win didn't. Now it's become more individual so the chances of someone I was rooting for winning are even less. With the current age of Challenges I wanted anyone but John, Camila, Laurel and Cara to win and guess what they have won a majority of the seasons.
Now you're changing your point. You said no likeable winners
And you realize almost everyone on the Bad A's team on Inferno 2 won after that, right? Abram, CT, Derrick, Rachel and Tonya. So you wanted them to win then but then hated them after?
And if you can't like Landon then you just hate everyone. Landon's 20 times the person Yes is.
Timmy won The Inferno not Seasons which was less than 20 years ago.
Your hatred of Yes needs to be studied lol. Did he take one of your women back in the day or something? Like you don't have to necessarily like him but there are many men that have been on this show that are far worse than him yet you never mention them but keep mentioning him. Unless you're just jealous he's aging like fine wine
Not jealous of Yes. Yes is fake. His act is tiresome. He was likeable back in the day but that was also likely just an act that was as transparent. He's a hypocrite as well. He's honestly Wes which is why him and Wes don't get alone. Not sure why some can't see that.
Yes is not my all time favorite person or anything like that I'm just saying out of all the winners this show has produced in 20+ years Yes is the only one I can say I like. Everyone else who has won I hate.
i don't even like Yes or Jonna lol
I agree however this show in particular has horrible winners. I had to go all the way back to Landon to find one with some kind of redeemable quality
In 20+ years? So not Jamie Chung or Sarah Greyson or Holly Shand or Theo Von or Timmy Beggy or Coral or Aviv Melmed or countless others. In over 20 years Yes is the only winner you don't hate? Do you literally only like the worst competitors? But then you hate Katie and Rachel Moyal so maybe you just hate everyone.
like this is a horrendous group of people
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Jenny and Amber are good people at least.
The hate can't be that bad to prefer a Zanatta win tho
when rogan is the most likeable guy for the modern winners lol
You just know when Averey, Flora, Jay, and Ryan were in the purge, production was just licking their chops.
Flora at least will hopefully get her fight with Nicole.
I really hope Averey was just froze out because she competed well and was a threat. If she gets the "clueless about the game" edit, I fear no matter how well she competed, she'll be completely edited out.
ashley's invasion win and amber winning as a rookie are the only two redeeming qualities on that list
In my fan fiction, this was a Battle of the Sexes 3 and Laurel/Cara/Veronica are all the winners <3
Nicole was DQ'ed upon discovering she was a man.
so disgusting and homophobic.
umm okay (nah)
Thanks for bringing up Landon. Let me present my case for why I didn't really care for him winning. Did anyone else watch RW Philly or was I the only one? Landon wasn't the best guy in that house. And the Landon/Shavonna relationship drama all season long just drained me. I didn't want to see them ever again. So when he showed up on The Challenges I didn't really care. Now of course he is the waaaay better than most of the men who wound up doing the show later on.
Jamie Chung was cool but I really wanted the Bad A's team to win Inferno 2. One of the most stacked teams in terms of entertainment value with all of the Mean Girls in that final but the good guys win so that's why I was disappointed with that one.
The Gauntlet was not a season I was that into so the winners were like whatever to me. All these years later I can appreciate Sarah Greyson for her record she still holds today so I'll give you that one.
I have said that the few times I was happy with the winners was BOT Seasons so that's Timmy & Coral, 21 years ago!
Aviv? Nah. I hated that entire season so of course I wasn't going to be happy with her win. I barely even knew her.
Holly Shand was cool but she's kind of wallpaper-ish.
I don't hate Katie and Rachel M. Are you serious? The minute all those Austin pieces of shit showed up on Fresh Meat I was turned off to all of them. They can kick rocks the entire cast.
Timmy didn't win battle of the seasons
Random but Rachel Moyal is one of the least deserving challenge winners ever. She was also invisible that season... it should've been Lacey. She would've been carried to the final by the Austin alliance and won instead <3
I was gonna compare Rachel M to Ibis but at least Ibis was a big part of why the rookies won their final. Rachel M the chubby veteran... I'm glad she never came back. Literally wallpaper or more like wall dust.
Ibis is a close second if Rachel is the most undeserving. Although Ibis did eat half the food in the final.
So--20 years later why are you watching?
And you realize almost everyone on the Bad A's team on Inferno 2 won after that, right? Abram, CT, Derrick, Rachel and Tonya. So you wanted them to win then but then hated them after?
And if you can't like Landon then you just hate everyone. Landon's 20 times the person Yes is.
Timmy won The Inferno not Seasons which was less than 20 years ago.
I've quit watching the main show I only watch all Stars now.
But Tina didn't win & she was the main one I was pulling for. It's a preference I wanted them to win and the other team won.
Again did you watch RW Philly? Landon was anything but likable that season. It's not my problem that you have such a problem with Yes. What's not to like about him? He barely says anything. Sorry if I don't usually like the winner of this show. Move on it's not the end of the world.
Was thinking and wondering do I really hate the winners of every single season and a glaring omission was Ashley Mitchell! How could I forget?! Invasion is the season responsible for bringing me back to the show. After not watching Rivals 3, I loved the rookie cast from Invasions. Season felt fresh without the vets. And the best of all was the winner. Ashley calling her mom to tell her that she won with that country music playing in the background was so amazing. Then again on Final Reckoning. So Yes, Ashley, Cynthia and Jon Brennan are winners that I loved. Few and far between.
This group of people is so funny LMAOOO
I hope you mean 15+ years because theres a ton of likeable OG winners; Jamie Chung, Holly Shand, Timmy, Dan Renzi, Darrell, Roni, Sarah G., Jamie M, Landon,.....Veronica (acquired taste) lol
I disagree with Chavo, maybe since Landon and Ashley M won it's been gloom but Seasons-Inferno 3 had some iconic winners. But it's his opinion lol...
You guys aren't fully understanding. I just wanted the other teams to win most seasons. I love Jamie Chung, for example but I was rooting for the other team that season. Same for Battle of the Sexes Jamie Murray was great that season but I wanted the women to win (Ruthie, Ellen, Lori as champs? I'd cream my pants), The Gauntlet 2 Alton is fine but I wanted the vets to win, etc. etc. it's not that I dislike some of the winners it's just usually the teams I wanted to win didn't. Now it's become more individual so the chances of someone I was rooting for winning are even less. With the current age of Challenges I wanted anyone but John, Camila, Laurel and Cara to win and guess what they have won a majority of the seasons.
Landon is one of the most likable winners of all time imo
OOooooh. Gotcha. Yes that makes more sense. In that case I agree with you, All-Stars one has been the first season in a MINUTE that someone I wanted to win won. There have been some bright spots though. Happy that Landon won FM2, THRILLED Rachel cameback and won Duel II, was rooting for the Red Team on Cutthroat because I thought it was Brad's turn. Was also happy it was Amber over the other girls in the final for DA too. But yes recently its been a parade of disapintment. Dirty XXX was a rough final
Inferno winning team is insane. You had Katie, Kendal, Darrell, Holly, and Veronica all win together. That almost brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it. So sad to see how far from grace it's fallen and the best seasons aren't even available on Paraflop Minus to relive
Your hatred of Yes needs to be studied lol. Did he take one of your women back in the day or something? Like you don't have to necessarily like him but there are many men that have been on this show that are far worse than him yet you never mention them but keep mentioning him. Unless you're just jealous he's aging like fine wine
Now you're changing your point. You said no likeable winners
Not jealous of Yes. Yes is fake. His act is tiresome. He was likeable back in the day but that was also likely just an act that was as transparent. He's a hypocrite as well. He's honestly Wes which is why him and Wes don't get alone. Not sure why some can't see that.
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