The Challenge: All Stars 4 - Spoilers Discussion

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I don't think anyone ever ranked Rachel over Laurel or Cara (and Ev and Emily) even back when they were debuting, so Rachel is rated fine imo. Her and Jodi were often left out of the conversation if you ask me. I'd love to see how she would do in a final with newer folks. What's the worse that could happen? Ya'll think she would perform like the Jemmye's of the world? C'mon now.

Oh I disagree.  I think Rachel and Jodi were always included with Evelyn Laurel and Emily when they shouldn't have been.  I think most would have had her above Cara and still might. 

Jodi is better than Rachel. I would like to see her compete against the likes of Laurel and Cara tbh 

Mostly anthing that can be accomplished in a gym Rachel is very good at. Its the technical stuff were she is actually pretty bad. Looking at Battle of the Sexes as an example, there were few strength/endurance missions to keep it even so there were a lot of logic games, how long can you; breathe underwater, hang by your legs, sit on ice...etc. And Rachel was crap at all of those

Rachel sucked at Sargeant Says (following directions was never something she was good at) and Dead Man's Drop but did fine on the others except maybe the Bungee/Holding Breath one--I can't recall where she finished on that.

I think her performance was bleaker than that. Out of a possible 36 points in every mission, Rachel's record was 20 for the Treehouse, followed by 18 for saturn, note those two also required her to be with a partner. Regardless, she was never in the top half of the competition for any of the six missions her competed in. Other than the first two missions I guess she was never "bad", but she was never good either.

Rachel is just female popcorn muscles. Chodi is overrated.

 

Mostly anthing that can be accomplished in a gym Rachel is very good at. Its the technical stuff were she is actually pretty bad. Looking at Battle of the Sexes as an example, there were few strength/endurance missions to keep it even so there were a lot of logic games, how long can you; breathe underwater, hang by your legs, sit on ice...etc. And Rachel was crap at all of those

Rachel sucked at Sargeant Says (following directions was never something she was good at) and Dead Man's Drop but did fine on the others except maybe the Bungee/Holding Breath one--I can't recall where she finished on that.

I think her performance was bleaker than that. Out of a possible 36 points in every mission, Rachel's record was 20 for the Treehouse, followed by 18 for saturn, note those two also required her to be with a partner. Regardless, she was never in the top half of the competition for any of the six missions her competed in. Other than the first two missions I guess she was never "bad", but she was never good either.

Yeah what was ironic was that in the her vote off, where everyone is shocked and being all "Rachel's a good competitor", that challenge was the ice block challenge.  Rachel only did better than three other girls (Aneesa, Christina, and Tonya).  8 out of the 12 girls did better than her.

Love that Cara beat Kam 

I hope it was physical 

I hope it was physical 

It's even worse if it's mental.  Kam's biggest fans always claim how smart she is

Rachel is just female popcorn muscles. Chodi is overrated.

Are we getting motivational positive Rachel on this or mean girl instigator Rachel on this? Hopefully the latter.

Do we know what order Adam, Ryan, & Jay left in? I hope Ryan left with Kam and Adam & Jay left with Flora & Avery

Are we getting motivational positive Rachel on this or mean girl instigator Rachel on this? Hopefully the latter.

 

I hope it was physical 

It's even worse if it's mental.  Kam's biggest fans always claim how smart she is

true but I do love watching Cara beat girls who are bigger than her in height and weight 

 

 

I hope it was physical 

It's even worse if it's mental.  Kam's biggest fans always claim how smart she is

true but I do love watching Cara beat girls who are bigger than her in height and weight 

Never Laurel, though.

Queen stays Queen. ❤️

 

 

 

I hope it was physical 

It's even worse if it's mental.  Kam's biggest fans always claim how smart she is

true but I do love watching Cara beat girls who are bigger than her in height and weight 

Never Laurel, though.

Queen stays Queen. ❤️

camila did tho ❤️

Cara... wow Wow WOW Smile

They really had cara on a timeout for four years. she pissed someone off lol

I'm wondering if Veronica worked with Cara or Laurel/Kam

Cara and Laurel have impacted the Challenge more than anyone since CT. 

Bye! 

 

I don't think anyone ever ranked Rachel over Laurel or Cara (and Ev and Emily) even back when they were debuting, so Rachel is rated fine imo. Her and Jodi were often left out of the conversation if you ask me. I'd love to see how she would do in a final with newer folks. What's the worse that could happen? Ya'll think she would perform like the Jemmye's of the world? C'mon now.

Oh I disagree.  I think Rachel and Jodi were always included with Evelyn Laurel and Emily when they shouldn't have been.  I think most would have had her above Cara and still might. 

Outside of this board I don't see. They're often forgotten.

 

 

I don't think anyone ever ranked Rachel over Laurel or Cara (and Ev and Emily) even back when they were debuting, so Rachel is rated fine imo. Her and Jodi were often left out of the conversation if you ask me. I'd love to see how she would do in a final with newer folks. What's the worse that could happen? Ya'll think she would perform like the Jemmye's of the world? C'mon now.

Oh I disagree.  I think Rachel and Jodi were always included with Evelyn Laurel and Emily when they shouldn't have been.  I think most would have had her above Cara and still might. 

Outside of this board I don't see. They're often forgotten.

That's due to time or when people watched.  Jodi and Rachel won the Duels in dominant fashion which put them in that discussion. Just like people thought Wes was one of the best ever for a while there. 

Do we know what order Adam, Ryan, & Jay left in? I hope Ryan left with Kam and Adam & Jay left with Flora & Avery

Based on something I was told at that time I think Adam left with Kam I don't think production would care about the other two. The order hasn't been confirmed though just an assumption on my part.

Are we getting motivational positive Rachel on this or mean girl instigator Rachel on this? Hopefully the latter.

Idk but her/Ayanna friendship sounds similar to Kailah/Jenna & Cara Z/Susie that put a target on her back

 

Are we getting motivational positive Rachel on this or mean girl instigator Rachel on this? Hopefully the latter.

Idk but her/Ayanna friendship sounds similar to Kailah/Jenna & Cara Z/Susie that put a target on her back

I'm gonna have no choice but to stan her for riding so hard with Ayanna

 

 

Are we getting motivational positive Rachel on this or mean girl instigator Rachel on this? Hopefully the latter.

Idk but her/Ayanna friendship sounds similar to Kailah/Jenna & Cara Z/Susie that put a target on her back

I'm gonna have no choice but to stan her for riding so hard with Ayanna

I'll have no choice but to criticize her for it.  You jump off a drowning ship.  You don't tie yourself to the anchor. 

 

 

 

Are we getting motivational positive Rachel on this or mean girl instigator Rachel on this? Hopefully the latter.

Idk but her/Ayanna friendship sounds similar to Kailah/Jenna & Cara Z/Susie that put a target on her back

I'm gonna have no choice but to stan her for riding so hard with Ayanna

I'll have no choice but to criticize her for it.  You jump off a drowning ship.  You don't tie yourself to the anchor. 

Maybe she wanted to look for mermaids?

Lol but nah, I bet it was probably just a case of being guilty by association. Rachel and her had probably already established a close bond before the whole debacle between Ayanna, Kam and her minions happened. Not much she could've done to save face at that point 

Flora/Jasmine were also close

Flora/Jasmine were also close

Sooo random lol

Was there like a post-season trip or something? Ryan was in the background of the Nicole/Laurel pic and so many of the contestants are still silent on social media.

Flora/Jasmine were also close

Flora has taste I see 

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