The Challenge: All Stars 4 - Spoilers Discussion

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How silly is Janelle going to look for quitting just for Ayanna to get the boot shortly after 

 

Leroy and Brandon were involved because they were defending Kam

Like if Kam needed help.

Maybe wait and see what topics was being touched. Pretty sure if it's not shown all of them will discuss it on their patreon or on podcast all of the people have been open about stuff not being shown by production on the past.

Interesting how Jasmine wasn't involved

I think Ayanna was going through some stuff and wasn't in the right headspace, they should have picked that up from the psych and her tweets. It wasn't the right time for her. They didn't learn from Tonya, sigh.

Damn so Rachel left episode 4 then and they are filming episode 5 now. For some reason I thought Rachel went out ep 3. The timeline is very confusing lol

I think Ayanna was going through some stuff and wasn't in the right headspace, they should have picked that up from the psych and her tweets. It wasn't the right time for her. They didn't learn from Tonya, sigh.

Yeah... it seems like producers let this happen too much... 

I think Ayanna was going through some stuff and wasn't in the right headspace, they should have picked that up from the psych and her tweets. It wasn't the right time for her. They didn't learn from Tonya, sigh.

Ayanna has never been in the right headspace since her Road Rules season

 

 

Leroy and Brandon were involved because they were defending Kam

Like if Kam needed help.

Maybe wait and see what topics was being touched. Pretty sure if it's not shown all of them will discuss it on their patreon or on podcast all of the people have been open about stuff not being shown by production on the past.

Sounds so good to not be shown, sadly.

Ayanna has been a crazy person since her original show she is to unstable for this show like Robin and Tonya

Pink, do any non-obvious people seem like a lock for 39 so far?

Pink, do any non-obvious people seem like a lock for 39 so far?

Bestie what-

If you're gonna ask about a show at least ask about the one happening right now and not one half a year away

Veronica's opinion on Ayanna was always justified. 

Wow! How did the rest of the house react to the arguments, besides questioning Ayanna's mental health?

For those expecting Ayanna vs V it wasn't a thing they are cool now days.

Do you think Ayanna is done for good?

Just watching Ayanna on AS2 you could tell she was cracked/not well so it doesn't surprise me. Her coming for all the black people and how intense I'm sure she was she def gets a side eye from me. Feel for Janelle/Kam. 

Hopefully this is the last we see of Ayanna...fighting with Janelle and Kam about race/politics is a great look for her smh

Once Janelle left she started with Kam. I am guessing she was trying to break them mentally idk. 

so go after all the blacks? Lol now Ayanna....

 

Once Janelle left she started with Kam. I am guessing she was trying to break them mentally idk. 

so go after all the blacks? Lol now Ayanna....

But not surprising

I'm curious how Brandon got in it because he has no affiliation with Kam nor Janelle so he would have no reason to defend them. Leroy is understandable Brandon is not however 

Ayanna getting into it with the black people about those kind of topics is strange indeed

No it's very much on brand for Ayanna. If there ever was a lose cannon then it's Ayanna. She is unpredictable AF. Only thing you can predict with her is some drama.  I so wish this stuff would make air. These fights alone would make it the best All stars season. So it's safe to say she was the one who arrived "unhinged" like Pink said?  Were the fights with these people just once or were they fights at different times?  So much to unwrap with this. I hate production with every passing day. This is the type of stuff I want to see but they think it's a good idea to already leave it on the cutting room floor. This isn't why I got into these shows in the first place. 

I'm curious how Brandon got in it because he has no affiliation with Kam nor Janelle so he would have no reason to defend them. Leroy is understandable Brandon is not however 

Brandon and Leroy are tight. They were roommates in their early Vegas days. Was probably looking out for his friend's girl.

I'm curious how Brandon got in it because he has no affiliation with Kam nor Janelle so he would have no reason to defend them. Leroy is understandable Brandon is not however 

He's really good friends with Leroy. If Ayanna was talking non-sense, he is free to add his input. He heard us calling him boring and he said I'm gonna provide some good content that'll be left on the editing room cutting floor.

 

Ayanna getting into it with the black people about those kind of topics is strange indeed

No it's very much on brand for Ayanna. If there ever was a lose cannon then it's Ayanna. She is unpredictable AF. Only thing you can predict with her is some drama.  I so wish this stuff would make air. These fights alone would make it the best All stars season. So it's safe to say she was the one who arrived "unhinged" like Pink said?  Were the fights with these people just once or were they fights at different times?  So much to unwrap with this. I hate production with every passing day. This is the type of stuff I want to see but they think it's a good idea to already leave it on the cutting room floor. This isn't why I got into these shows in the first place. 

From the Real World to the PC World. You would think with all the press LA Homecoming got and considering that it was the most successful homecoming season they would realize what the people want but they are so 1) afraid 2) out of touch.

Wonder if they'll show at least some the arguements? They could prob edit around sensitive subjects and show why Janelle left 

They're probably gonna show some scenes with barely any context of everyone being annoyed by Ayanna that leads up to her elimination

For those expecting Ayanna vs V it wasn't a thing they are cool now days.

Were they looking out for eachother?!?

no wonder why Janelle quit, she was getting annoyed wit Ayanna for shit that won't game related. I'm pretty sure Janelle would've stayed if it wasn't something that didn't involve the game 

I recall PR saying the drama mainly revolved around 2 people? So Ayanna and Kam?

Did PR also said another mess start up afterwards?

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