The Challenge : Ride or Dies - Spoilers Discussion

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All these internationals are just meatshields to protect the ones production wants to win

Just be honest and say what what they actually mean but don't preach diversity when that's not what you want.  If someone wants to see more black people on the cast I don't ever want to see them use the terms diveristy or "POC" because it's fake.     

Well then you would call them racist. Like why do you care so much and feel the need to debate it?

 

They were cut cause they have already left Argentina so keep up and if comprehension skills is low for you just say that cause I'm not gonna be explaining why I wanna see somebody on show if I feel someway about a casting decision they made I will comment of course no one knows how these people will do but I was still interested and they looked strong (I know you seeing a strong looking black couple terrified you) -- also it's very clear and you know this as well that no one gives a shit about Corey 

You can't be cut if you were never part of the cast.  Corey knew he was out when Michaela dropped--see his tempertantrum but got a check as an alternate.  So, you only want them on because they're black--right?   That's all I wanted you to admit.  It has nothing to do with you thinking they're interesting.  You just saw their race.  I would have been fine with them or the Germans being cut.  Hell, I'd prefer Josh get dropped but we know better.  I'd also love an actual strong black team not one you just think might be good.   I'm excited for Nurys.  I just wish she had a better partner.

they were considered therefore they were cut down to an alternate and eventually sent HOME (why is that hard for you to grasp) -- and what are you talking about and even if that was the case why do you care if I wanna see people that look like me and represent me then why should I be shy of that when we hardly get representation however in this case I saw a strong black couple and wanted them on to dominate cause we don't get that all the time hardly ever -- why is that such an insult to you that black people wanna see themselves win and showcased everyone allows you to root for who wanna root for whether whatever reason -- and YES I saw a strong looking black ass beautiful couple ready to dominate and wanted them represented (did I mention beautiful) don't worry about what I wanna see take that racist gatekeeping shit over there 

All these internationals are just meatshields to protect the ones production wants to win

That's true. I hope it backfires and the final consist of only teams that barely speak English and that no fans are connected to.

Thimna and Libho broke up 3 months ago. They aren't even together, and only started liking each others posts this week. It's a possibility they weren't prioritised due to that reason.

 

The 4 Germans have a hard time understanding and talking English

This ****** me off. Why? What is the point? They won't play or get airtime, fans won't connect? There are so many options that could have brought fans, not tons but still fans. People won't watch because this **** is annoying to watch and no one is connected to them. Skye is literally the absolute worst human at her job. I hate that ugly goblin so much. 

who should i beg/f..ck to make me random international rookie ? I am european , blonde , dislike Josh and would kick some people if they pissed me . I watched most seasons and can speak english well. 

 

Just be honest and say what what they actually mean but don't preach diversity when that's not what you want.  If someone wants to see more black people on the cast I don't ever want to see them use the terms diveristy or "POC" because it's fake.     

Well then you would call them racist. Like why do you care so much and feel the need to debate it?

the thing is we never use POC or diversity we straight up say black cause that's what we wanna see lmaoo

 

 

They were cut cause they have already left Argentina so keep up and if comprehension skills is low for you just say that cause I'm not gonna be explaining why I wanna see somebody on show if I feel someway about a casting decision they made I will comment of course no one knows how these people will do but I was still interested and they looked strong (I know you seeing a strong looking black couple terrified you) -- also it's very clear and you know this as well that no one gives a shit about Corey 

You can't be cut if you were never part of the cast.  Corey knew he was out when Michaela dropped--see his tempertantrum but got a check as an alternate.  So, you only want them on because they're black--right?   That's all I wanted you to admit.  It has nothing to do with you thinking they're interesting.  You just saw their race.  I would have been fine with them or the Germans being cut.  Hell, I'd prefer Josh get dropped but we know better.  I'd also love an actual strong black team not one you just think might be good.   I'm excited for Nurys.  I just wish she had a better partner.

they were considered therefore they were cut down to an alternate and eventually sent HOME (why is that hard for you to grasp) -- and what are you talking about and even if that was the case why do you care if I wanna see people that look like me and represent me then why should I be shy of that when we hardly get representation however in this case I saw a strong black couple and wanted them on to dominate cause we don't get that all the time hardly ever -- why is that such an insult to you that black people wanna see themselves win and showcased everyone allows you to root for who wanna root for whether whatever reason -- and YES I saw a strong looking black ass beautiful couple ready to dominate and wanted them represented (did I mention beautiful) don't worry about what I wanna see take that racist gatekeeping shit over there 

Using your logic should I root for all random white people that are cast or should I see if I like them first?  

I'd love to see black people win. I was thrilled Amber won. I'd love to see Leroy get a win even if it's on All Stars. I'd be rooting for Day if she was on. It's never about race. It's about who they are. See my hate of John Tony Amanda and the list goes on and on.  

 

 

PR can you explain why your friends on production try to make these internationals who don't know English happen? Like do they not interview them and realize they aren't a good fit? Do they not care about making a good show? Please explain this logic.

They're cheap to cast?  Plus all the screen time is being saved for Josh's fake drama.

You can get cheap people that know English for an English show. It's uncomfortable watch to be honest. They will add nothing, throw Jeremiah who will also reserve airtime for Josh but he will at least contribute to the show with connections and confessionals you can understand. There's a reason Michele is like the only rookie to survive from last season and why the show was so bad but then they just replace the Tracey's and Logans with more of the same. Like use some common sense.

its like MTV Polska has put Gabo on Warsaw Shore even if he does not speak polish . He somehow comunicates with them in english/polish . But it is crazy because i remember that i started learning english when i was 3 and german when i was 8 . I do not know how they are not checking it . Probably there are more europeans who would like to do it . Or do fresh meat style . But english should be required 

 

 

 

They were cut cause they have already left Argentina so keep up and if comprehension skills is low for you just say that cause I'm not gonna be explaining why I wanna see somebody on show if I feel someway about a casting decision they made I will comment of course no one knows how these people will do but I was still interested and they looked strong (I know you seeing a strong looking black couple terrified you) -- also it's very clear and you know this as well that no one gives a shit about Corey 

You can't be cut if you were never part of the cast.  Corey knew he was out when Michaela dropped--see his tempertantrum but got a check as an alternate.  So, you only want them on because they're black--right?   That's all I wanted you to admit.  It has nothing to do with you thinking they're interesting.  You just saw their race.  I would have been fine with them or the Germans being cut.  Hell, I'd prefer Josh get dropped but we know better.  I'd also love an actual strong black team not one you just think might be good.   I'm excited for Nurys.  I just wish she had a better partner.

they were considered therefore they were cut down to an alternate and eventually sent HOME (why is that hard for you to grasp) -- and what are you talking about and even if that was the case why do you care if I wanna see people that look like me and represent me then why should I be shy of that when we hardly get representation however in this case I saw a strong black couple and wanted them on to dominate cause we don't get that all the time hardly ever -- why is that such an insult to you that black people wanna see themselves win and showcased everyone allows you to root for who wanna root for whether whatever reason -- and YES I saw a strong looking black ass beautiful couple ready to dominate and wanted them represented (did I mention beautiful) don't worry about what I wanna see take that racist gatekeeping shit over there 

Using your logic should I root for all random white people that are cast or should I see if I like them first?  

I'd love to see black people win. I was thrilled Amber won. I'd love to see Leroy get a win even if it's on All Stars. I'd be rooting for Day if she was on. It's never about race. It's about who they are. See my hate of John Tony Amanda and the list goes on and on.  

"I don't see color" vibes isn't a positive thing like you think it is. 

"I don't see color" vibes isn't a positive thing like you think it is. 

Who said I don't see color?  I just dislike people based on who they are.  I fully acknowledged who was black.  

kvm if u came on here and shouted that u only root for mayo monsters no one would care. my initial post was asking "why is there so few black people". never once did I bring up any other race or downplay any other race. I do want to see strong black people on this show, and ive always said that.

 

also why are you always arguing about race? why cant you ever ignore when skin color is the topic?

 

 

PR can you explain why your friends on production try to make these internationals who don't know English happen? Like do they not interview them and realize they aren't a good fit? Do they not care about making a good show? Please explain this logic.

They're cheap to cast?  Plus all the screen time is being saved for Josh's fake drama.

You can get cheap people that know English for an English show. It's uncomfortable watch to be honest. They will add nothing, throw Jeremiah who will also reserve airtime for Josh but he will at least contribute to the show with connections and confessionals you can understand. There's a reason Michele is like the only rookie to survive from last season and why the show was so bad but then they just replace the Tracey's and Logans with more of the same. Like use some common sense.

at least Logan had josh who could help translate things so he understood. I actually feel worse for the Germans cause they have no one to do that for them. It's not interesting watching people struggle to connect and play the game because of a language barrier. I would be so uncomfortable doing a show where the language was Spanish because I know I'm not 100% fluent. It actually gives me anxiety thinking about it lol

kvm if u came on here and shouted that u only root for mayo monsters no one would care. my initial post was asking "why is there so few black people". never once did I bring up any other race or downplay any other race. I do want to see strong black people on this show, and ive always said that.

 

also why are you always arguing about race? why cant you ever ignore when skin color is the topic?

Why do you make everything about race?  

this sounds so bad but it really makes no sense to me why they don't just cast people who speak english like it's such a disadvantage for them already being rookies no one knows or cares about and now you're going to add in a language barrier? there were tons of other shows to pull from too just yikes

16 girls and 17 guys... hmm

 

kvm if u came on here and shouted that u only root for mayo monsters no one would care. my initial post was asking "why is there so few black people". never once did I bring up any other race or downplay any other race. I do want to see strong black people on this show, and ive always said that.

 

also why are you always arguing about race? why cant you ever ignore when skin color is the topic?

Why do you make everything about race?  

Maybe because for black people almost everything about our society is about their race? You are invalidating his feelings about wanting to see more people like him represented on the show. Why does him saying that make you so uncomfortable? We all know the answer to that, I just want to know if you are willing to admit it. You could easily just keep scrolling if you disagree but something deep rooted in you makes you go on the defense. It's telling. 

 

KVM do you ever get tired of being the old white guy in the room, playing Devils advocate for shits and giggles? 

I rly don't see who Josh would be partnered with atp, maybe he's still an alt they just kept down there

KVM do you ever get tired of being the old white guy in the room, playing Devils advocate for shits and giggles? 

No and I'm not

 

 

kvm if u came on here and shouted that u only root for mayo monsters no one would care. my initial post was asking "why is there so few black people". never once did I bring up any other race or downplay any other race. I do want to see strong black people on this show, and ive always said that.

 

also why are you always arguing about race? why cant you ever ignore when skin color is the topic?

Why do you make everything about race?  

Maybe because for black people almost everything about our society is about their race? You are invalidating his feelings about wanting to see more people like him represented on the show. Why does him saying that make you so uncomfortable? We all know the answer to that, I just want to know if you are willing to admit it. You could easily just keep scrolling if you disagree but something deep rooted in you makes you go on the defense. It's telling. 

It doesn't make me uncomfortable. It's just nonsense.  Should I complain nonstop that we aren't get fair representation for white people?  Less than 15% of the American population is black. Why is anyone asking for unfair representation at the expense of other races?  

And we can drop it at this point since most of you have admitted you aren't actually interested in diversity which is what I've said all along.  

Has an elimination happened yet?

Has an elimination happened yet?

I'd guess the first one is today 

Corey's an alt? Damn I was actually rooting for him 

So I'm assuming Josh is an alt or his female partner is on the low

 

 

 

 

 

 

Using your logic should I root for all random white people that are cast or should I see if I like them first?  

I'd love to see black people win. I was thrilled Amber won. I'd love to see Leroy get a win even if it's on All Stars. I'd be rooting for Day if she was on. It's never about race. It's about who they are. See my hate of John Tony Amanda and the list goes on and on.  

it's not black or white thing and that's what you're one trying to turn this into. if you can't comprehend the struggles of the AA community and willingness to want to be represented and excell cause of the lack of it and that commending ourselves and rooting for us isn't a dig at other races and origins is something at the very elderly age you are that you need to work on cause you're very old and you out of everyone here should understand this 

And we can drop it at this point since most of you have admitted you aren't actually interested in diversity which is what I've said all along.  

why drop it when Flyguy was specific in saying black people, see you assumed you could do your usual and pick apart but now you just look ridiculous because he started it off by saying Black People.

Why drop it now instead of continuing to make yourself look like the old decrepit white fool you are that makes the rest of us look like we're stuck in 1925

Jqr and kvm... both white af.

It doesn't make me uncomfortable. It's just nonsense.  Should I complain nonstop that we aren't get fair representation for white people?  Less than 15% of the American population is black. Why is anyone asking for unfair representation at the expense of other races?  

25 seasons full of whiteness for you to enjoy, pull the "poor me" card and scream about lack of white representation all you want which you know is BS. Might as well put that white blanket over your head while you're at it. Statistics isn't everything and for a network that presents itself as diverse and one of America's biggest (atleast used 2b) it's a huge setback.

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