And to those using the term "fake woke," are there ANY people who are socially conscious and critique structures of power/inequality that you think are "legit" woke, or do you just use the term "fake woke" to describe all of them?
Yes, but they show it in their actions and without self-praise. 99% of woke white liberals are frauds though and that is just a fact.
I'm the dope that is a sucker for the Wes stuff, but agree we should see more of the other castmembers. I wish each episode was longer because there aren't traditional commercials which would help make these feel not as rushed. Also miss the Dailies that would play on MTV.com. With all the footage on the editing room floor they should be using The Challenge YouTube channel to play footage that won't make the episodes and give more of a reason to subscribe to P+.
I miss the dailies! The dailies from the Island were 10x more entertaining than the actual episodes of the show which I thought sucked. Dan during his drinking days was a big fixture on those dailies.
Yeah, sadly, you might be right. If this is the path this series is headed down, maybe I don't want there to be an AS4, lol.
it's a slippery slope. Next logical step is to add John the sexual harasser to AS. Then I really wouldn't need to watch. Oh well at least we got two more decent seasons out of this dead horse that is The Challenge.
Sexual harassers Nia, Tina & Veronica are already interested he cast. Stop putting people on pedestals all of them are the same.
When did I ever put Nia, Tina and Veronica on a pedestal or even mention them here?
Just finished episode 1. Way too rushed and weirdly edited
episode one was almost terrible with those rushed intros
What? We don't need long intros. None of these people are rookies. We've seen them all before and a lot on the first two seasons of All Stars. They did a nice job with the people that needed to be introduced.
who said we needed long intros-- I just said the shit seemed super quick cause with people like Cynthia/Roni whom the newer viewers don't know that well they could've expanded on their intros a bit and not necessarily drag out but slightly expand + not even just their intros I feel they should've included more from the first night
Just finished episode 1. Way too rushed and weirdly edited
episode one was almost terrible with those rushed intros
What? We don't need long intros. None of these people are rookies. We've seen them all before and a lot on the first two seasons of All Stars. They did a nice job with the people that needed to be introduced.
who said we needed long intros-- I just said the shit seemed super quick cause with people like Cynthia/Roni whom the newer viewers don't know that well they could've expanded on their intros a bit and not necessarily drag out but slightly expand + not even just their intros I feel they should've included more from the first night
"Rushed intros"...they weren't. It was fine. I honestly think people just create reasons to complain. The first two episodes were good.
"Rushed intros"...they weren't. It was fine. I honestly think people just create reasons to complain. The first two episodes were good.
Your opinion is not fact. You thought it was fine, we wanted longer intros and to hear more from the cast. You don't always have to push your point to make everyone believe it's fact. I honestly think you just look for reasons to argue.
"Rushed intros"...they weren't. It was fine. I honestly think people just create reasons to complain. The first two episodes were good.
Your opinion is not fact. You thought it was fine, we wanted longer intros and to hear more from the cast. You don't always have to push your point to make everyone believe it's fact. I honestly think you just look for reasons to argue.
Then you would have complained the wrong people git more time or that everything else was rushed because of it. Again no matter what you're going to complain about every aspect. What happened was fine even if you want more. This shouldn't be an argument. It's simple
I loved both episodes. The All Stars series is top notch, but yes, it is very rushed. I would love 15 more minutes of content.
We would all love 15 more minutes but we know that's not happening. With the time restraints they have it was very well done. I'll take rushed over dragged out like the main show every single time.
I'm still trying to figure out who was walking with Tyler as he made his grand entrance at the jungle party. Obviously MJ was on his left, but I couldn't really tell who was on the right. I think it's Mark, but it also looked like they were covered in tattoos. I have a feeling they were just drawn on for the show, but it looked a little like Jordan, too... but then Jordan is on the floor bowing down to the queen....
I'm still trying to figure out who was walking with Tyler as he made his grand entrance at the jungle party. Obviously MJ was on his left, but I couldn't really tell who was on the right. I think it's Mark, but it also looked like they were covered in tattoos. I have a feeling they were just drawn on for the show, but it looked a little like Jordan, too... but then Jordan is on the floor bowing down to the queen....
I'm still trying to figure out who was walking with Tyler as he made his grand entrance at the jungle party. Obviously MJ was on his left, but I couldn't really tell who was on the right. I think it's Mark, but it also looked like they were covered in tattoos. I have a feeling they were just drawn on for the show, but it looked a little like Jordan, too... but then Jordan is on the floor bowing down to the queen....
the mark vs lt elim was like an updated, less broken version of push me. It's kinda lit.
Yes, but they show it in their actions and without self-praise. 99% of woke white liberals are frauds though and that is just a fact.
how is jordan woke ? isnt he only on this to get forgiveness for his actions towards nia .. that they have both doubled down on ?
i hate when the internet changes the meanings of words.
I miss the dailies! The dailies from the Island were 10x more entertaining than the actual episodes of the show which I thought sucked. Dan during his drinking days was a big fixture on those dailies.
When did I ever put Nia, Tina and Veronica on a pedestal or even mention them here?
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my reaction was the same as Sylvia's
who said we needed long intros-- I just said the shit seemed super quick cause with people like Cynthia/Roni whom the newer viewers don't know that well they could've expanded on their intros a bit and not necessarily drag out but slightly expand + not even just their intros I feel they should've included more from the first night
Preach Lucci!!!
"Rushed intros"...they weren't. It was fine. I honestly think people just create reasons to complain. The first two episodes were good.
ur the master of complaining just to complain. and if lucci feels like they were rushed you cant tell her that they arent, what the **** is ur problem
Your opinion is not fact. You thought it was fine, we wanted longer intros and to hear more from the cast. You don't always have to push your point to make everyone believe it's fact. I honestly think you just look for reasons to argue.
You're confused again
Then you would have complained the wrong people git more time or that everything else was rushed because of it. Again no matter what you're going to complain about every aspect. What happened was fine even if you want more. This shouldn't be an argument. It's simple
KVM is a narcissist with no self-awareness no point in arguing with him.
I loved the first episode, the second one was dull to me though, but still enjoyable
you need help
I loved both episodes. The All Stars series is top notch, but yes, it is very rushed. I would love 15 more minutes of content.
We would all love 15 more minutes but we know that's not happening. With the time restraints they have it was very well done. I'll take rushed over dragged out like the main show every single time.
professionally
I'm still trying to figure out who was walking with Tyler as he made his grand entrance at the jungle party. Obviously MJ was on his left, but I couldn't really tell who was on the right. I think it's Mark, but it also looked like they were covered in tattoos. I have a feeling they were just drawn on for the show, but it looked a little like Jordan, too... but then Jordan is on the floor bowing down to the queen....
I ask the important questions.
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You da bomb.com
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why is derrick k even there he's so annoying
Tell him to go to prison, girl.
Lol Jonna has a strong social game she is cool with everyone in that room unlike Kellyanne/Kendal
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