The Ruins: Susie Meister - MTV

Out of all the shows I've seen her on I liked her the most on The Gauntlet 2! I thought the alliance with the vet guys could've been great if it had worked out! I wasn't a huge fan of hers on Inferno 3 though, because I really like Tonya.

Let's play iht.

[QUOTE=TSPKM;229288]So instead of "No offesne" or "No disrespect" we should just come out and say how we feel? Nobody is trying to ostracize you or come at you in a rude or disrespectful way. The fact and point black fact is that if Susie wants to do these challenges, which she still continues to do then she needs to realize that her whole life can no longer be private like she once had. Its the same with celebrities and other reality stars. Once they put themselves out there to the public, their lives wont be the same, whether they want the attention or not, whether its welcomed or not. Do you think people like Lindsey Lohan would welcome the negative attention that she gets because of her "personal life?" **** no!!!! Susie is not dumb. Susie knows what will happen when she continues to make apperances. Susie knows that she has fans and to me by the way you V1 make it sound, she doesnt respect her fans and comes across as not a very nice person to her fans. I just think this whole discussion is absolutely ridiculous. She shouldnt put her wedding pictures all over the internet if she doesnt want people seeing them. She shouldnt continue to appear on these challenges if she doesnt want people to know about her life. I'm sorry but I just got completely turned off of Susie by what you just said and by how she feels about her fans apparently. And I'm not PMing you because this is a thread about Susie, and these posts are about Susie. Once she appeared on TV her fairytale life of a closed book, got opened.[/QUOTE] Personally, I think you should write whatever the heck you want to as long as it is within the rules. Of course, that does not mean that you (or I) will always be accurate. For example, Susie has not put her wedding pics "all over the internet." She has three wedding pics in a single album on Facebook. The pictures from the wedding which appear elsewhere in this thread were posted by Sarah Rice. Perhaps your comment reflected a certain attempt at hyperbole. I can't possibly know. [QUOTE]Nobody is trying to ostracize you or come at you in a rude or disrespectful way. [/QUOTE] I reread what I wrote yesterday and have no idea what you are talking about. The Internet if full of rudeness and disrespect. I was actually pointing out that some people were being solicitous in their disagreement with me. I thought that was worth noting. Perhaps with a second look, you will realize that you came away with a mistaken impression. [QUOTE]Do you think people like Lindsey Lohan would welcome the negative attention that she gets because of her "personal life?[/QUOTE] Beyond what I've written here at vevmo.com about Ms Lohan, I don't have an opinion since I apparently have fewer facts that you. [QUOTE]And I'm not PMing you because this is a thread about Susie, and these posts are about Susie[/QUOTE] Great. People PM me quite often asking for additional information or the "back story," and when I've concluded that I can trust someone not to openly post information that I'm willing to provide privately, then I occasionally share much more than I am willing to openly post in a public forum. Feel free not to PM me, since it would likely now be an unproductive exchange anyway. ~~~ And now to the meat of the issue: I think this is a fair assessment of Susie's point of view: That which troubles her most is when she thinks her my personal life is being discussed, debated, or denigrated not based upon her TV persona (which would be fair), but on information gathered through her personal FB page etc... To me, this seems to be a reasoned -- if ineffective -- position for her to hold, since few will be deterred from the exercise because of her opinion. But, if she or I reach one person and cause some personal reflection, then the effort is worthwhile. I have many very good professional relationships with people throughout the reality community because I don't blab things I'm told or learn from inside the community unless that person agrees to the release of the information. When someone writes these or similar words to me, "I know you have integrity and respect my wish for privacy," then I know I'm doing the right thing. Another cast member who is very, very popular recently said to me, "You know, when you really think about it, the people who watch our show and then write about it on the Internet really must lead pathetic lives. I don't give them or the challenges a second thought until the next time BMP calls me." Susie's view is very far from that extreme, which is why I suggested that discussing her private life (not that she has married, but when, where and how she met the guy or what the state of her first marriage may have been at any particular time) would not warm her to vevmo.com. During my time as a moderator here, well past the experience of many of you, I firmly believed in outreach to cast members. There was the potential and hope that vevmo,com could be a place where cast members of any reality show could feel welcome and join in our efforts to bring about a sense of community -- something real beyond the edit. All the social research suggested that reality programming is popular because viewers see the reality cast member as "one of us" and not a Hollywood creation. What better place than vevmo.com to bring "fan" and "star" together. To the extent that Susie is among the most intellectual of all "stars" of reality programming (how many others are pursuing a PhD in Theology?), I saw little value in the membership doing the very thing that would keep her away when she has much to offer. ~~ And a final thought responding to another previous comment. I used the word "brief" regarding Susie's appearance on TV because against my standard, that is what it is. I spent quite a bit of time yesterday and today going through the reality archives on our server (which takes even longer when having to access it while while on vacation in Colorado with **** little bandwidth). Although I may be off slightly, I count Susie's total face time on TV to be just under 57 minutes, including some time when people are talking about her but she is not pictured. I fully appreciate that some may think that one minute of TV time entitles the audience at large to know everything about that per person from the day he or she lost his or her virginity to the horrific picture some friend of yours took when our "star" was ****-faced and passed out after a bad break up. I just have different standards -- not better, not less realistic, just different.

[QUOTE=V1man;229446]Personally, I think you should write whatever the heck you want to as long as it is within the rules. Of course, that does not mean that you (or I) will always be accurate. For example, Susie has not put her wedding pics "all over the internet." She has three wedding pics in a single album on Facebook. The pictures from the wedding which appear elsewhere in this thread were posted by Sarah Rice. Perhaps your comment reflected a certain attempt at hyperbole. I can't possibly know. I reread what I wrote yesterday and have no idea what you are talking about. The Internet if full of rudeness and disrespect. I was actually pointing out that some people were being solicitous in their disagreement with me. I thought that was worth noting. Perhaps with a second look, you will realize that you came away with a mistaken impression. Beyond what I've written here at vevmo.com about Ms Lohan, I don't have an opinion since I apparently have fewer facts that you. Great. People PM me quite often asking for additional information or the "back story," and when I've concluded that I can trust someone not to openly post information that I'm willing to provide privately, then I occasionally share much more than I am willing to openly post in a public forum. Feel free not to PM me, since it would likely now be an unproductive exchange anyway. ~~~ And now to the meat of the issue: I think this is a fair assessment of Susie's point of view: That which troubles her most is when she thinks her my personal life is being discussed, debated, or denigrated not based upon her TV persona (which would be fair), but on information gathered through her personal FB page etc... To me, this seems to be a reasoned -- if ineffective -- position for her to hold, since few will be deterred from the exercise because of her opinion. But, if she or I reach one person and cause some personal reflection, then the effort is worthwhile. I have many very good professional relationships with people throughout the reality community because I don't blab things I'm told or learn from inside the community unless that person agrees to the release of the information. When someone writes these or similar words to me, "I know you have integrity and respect my wish for privacy," then I know I'm doing the right thing. Another cast member who is very, very popular recently said to me, "You know, when you really think about it, the people who watch our show and then write about it on the Internet really must lead pathetic lives. I don't give them or the challenges a second thought until the next time BMP calls me." Susie's view is very far from that extreme, which is why I suggested that discussing her private life (not that she has married, but when, where and how she met the guy or what the state of her first marriage may have been at any particular time) would not warm her to vevmo.com. During my time as a moderator here, well past the experience of many of you, I firmly believed in outreach to cast members. There was the potential and hope that vevmo,com could be a place where cast members of any reality show could feel welcome and join in our efforts to bring about a sense of community -- something real beyond the edit. All the social research suggested that reality programming is popular because viewers see the reality cast member as "one of us" and not a Hollywood creation. What better place than vevmo.com to bring "fan" and "star" together. To the extent that Susie is among the most intellectual of all "stars" of reality programming (how many others are pursuing a PhD in Theology?), I saw little value in the membership doing the very thing that would keep her away when she has much to offer. ~~ And a final thought responding to another previous comment. I used the word "brief" regarding Susie's appearance on TV because against my standard, that is what it is. I spent quite a bit of time yesterday and today going through the reality archives on our server (which takes even longer when having to access it while while on vacation in Colorado with **** little bandwidth). Although I may be off slightly, I count Susie's total face time on TV to be just under 57 minutes, including some time when people are talking about her but she is not pictured. I fully appreciate that some may think that one minute of TV time entitles the audience at large to know everything about that per person from the day he or she lost his or her virginity to the horrific picture some friend of yours took when our "star" was ****-faced and passed out after a bad break up. I just have different standards -- not better, not less realistic, just different.[/QUOTE]I don't agree with what you are saying in terms of Susie and her outlook on privacy but I do understand it. The only thing that I really don't understand is how you came to the conclusion that she has only been on television for 57 minutes. I'm not even disagreeing with this statement just wondering 1) how you came to this conclusion? I saw you said you spent time going through reality archives......I don't understand what this means? And 2) how could this be possible??? Off the top of my head she's been on RR: Australia, RR: Viewers Revenge, The Gauntlet 2, The Extreme Challenge, The Inferno 3 and The Ruins......how could she have possibly been on screen for only 57 minutes? Either way, thank you for explaining yourself. Like I said, while I don't exactly agree I do understand and see your points. :)

[QUOTE=CHill;229450]I don't agree with what you are saying in terms of Susie and her outlook on privacy but I do understand it. The only thing that I really don't understand is how you came to the conclusion that she has only been on television for 57 minutes. I'm not even disagreeing with this statement just wondering 1) how you came to this conclusion? I saw you said you spent time going through reality archives......I don't understand what this means? And 2) how could this be possible??? Off the top of my head she's been on RR: Australia, RR: Viewers Revenge, The Gauntlet 2, The Extreme Challenge, The Inferno 3 and The Ruins......how could she have possibly been on screen for only 57 minutes? Either way, thank you for explaining yourself. Like I said, while I don't exactly agree I do understand and see your points. :)[/QUOTE] I am the managing director of a media company which has a line of business related to reality TV. Until 2009 we, or our predecessor company, KGS Productions, Inc, recorded for research purposes all reality programing via DRV and archived some of it on a substantial server. Due to the proliferation of reality programming, we gave up recording every reality series and recorded those we felt were significant for us. Fortunately, MTV is half way through the alphabet and our purge is only current up to LOGO, so I had not yet deleted the challenges in our database. The metadata associated with the archives allows us to find the episodes in which someone appeared (assuming we entered the cast info correctly). I looked at everything we have, running those episodes at 4x speed and noted the frames in which Susie was on screen. I then timed the the footage I had logged, running it at normal speed with audio. It totaled slightly less than 57 minutes. Of course, I may have missed some, but I think my assessment is approximate and representative.

I think it was sarah's mothers albums where they got Susie's wedding pics. I think she is a photographer.

[QUOTE=V1man;229464]I am the managing director of a media company which has a line of business related to reality TV. Until 2009 we, or our predecessor company, KGS Productions, Inc, recorded for research purposes all reality programing via DRV and archived some of it on a substantial server. Due to the proliferation of reality programming, we gave up recording every reality series and recorded those we felt were significant for us. Fortunately, MTV is half way through the alphabet and our purge is only current up to LOGO, so I had not yet deleted the challenges in our database. The metadata associated with the archives allows us to find the episodes in which someone appeared (assuming we entered the cast info correctly). I looked at everything we have, running those episodes at 4x speed and noted the frames in which Susie was on screen. I then timed the the footage I had logged, running it at normal speed with audio. It totaled slightly less than 57 minutes. Of course, I may have missed some, but I think my assessment is approximate and representative.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's probably very approximate and representative of Susie's time on the challenges BUT it completely ignores the screen time she received on her two seasons of Road Rules. Seeing that there are less cast members on seasons of Road Rules compared to the challenges I am guessing that is where (probably) the most footage of Susie exists. I'm not trying to argue whether her appearances are brief or not as I don't think either of us are going to change our opinions [I]but[/I] if we are going to get so concise and specific as to actually count out the seconds she's onscreen we might as well point out what is missing from your data in terms of Susie's reality TV appearances.

[QUOTE=CHill;229698]Yeah, it's probably very approximate and representative of Susie's time on the challenges BUT it completely ignores the screen time she received on her two seasons of Road Rules. Seeing that there are less cast members on seasons of Road Rules compared to the challenges I am guessing that is where (probably) the most footage of Susie exists. I'm not trying to argue whether her appearances are brief or not as I don't think either of us are going to change our opinions [I]but[/I] if we are going to get so concise and specific as to actually count out the seconds she's onscreen we might as well point out what is missing from your data in terms of Susie's reality TV appearances.[/QUOTE] I did include Viewer's Revenge in my data.

[QUOTE=V1man;229706]I did include Viewer's Revenge in my data.[/QUOTE]Oh ok, well you only mentioned that the challenges were in your database. Either way that STILL does not include her original season of Road Rules. I think everybody can agree that cast members get the most screen time on their original season of Road Rules or Real World. I do have to say I'm [B]VERY[/B] surprised that her total screen time was under an hour in all those challenges and Viewers Revenge. I guess she was such a nasty, negative presence that it seemed like she was onscreen making trouble much more than she actually was.

I want Susie to return for just one more challenge. So I can see her get her *** handed to her in a humiliating way.

[QUOTE=dylan76;229725]I want Susie to return for just one more challenge. So I can see her get her *** handed to her in a humiliating way.[/QUOTE] Are you perhaps channeling Evelyn? :yahoo:

I've never really had that big of an issue with Susie, but Evelyn would absolutely destroy her (especially because she's ticked her off in the past).

I wouldnt say Evelynn would destroy her as weve never really seen them compete together. Evelynn only did two missions on The Ruins with Susie. Love or hate Susie the girl is tough.

[QUOTE=XxJulieCxX;229883]I wouldnt say Evelynn would destroy her as weve never really seen them compete together. Evelynn only did two missions on The Ruins with Susie. Love or hate Susie the girl is tough.[/QUOTE] They were both on the Inferno 3. Susie won 3/4 lifeshields, and Evelyn 1/4. On the Dog Day Afternoon Mission (male + female put a dog sled with the 2 members of the opposing team) Kenny chose Ev to help win his lifeshield and they did. Susie's team didn't. On the Hook Me Mission (Males reel in female members swimming away) Kenny easily pulled Susie in and won the lifeshield while Alton had a very hard time getting Ev to come back. At the end of the day though I'd say mission results don't actually mean that much in a one-on-one scenario. Look at Beth and Aneesa. I still feel Ev would easily beat Susie in any sort of physical contest due to her intensity.

Ev would murder Susie in anything physical, not just due to her intensity but her overall physical ability. She's just way stronger, faster, more agile and well rounded. She's also really bright too, and has no problem doing anything logical. Susie has nothing on Ev except numbers in a social game. From a purely competitive stand point it's no contest.

[QUOTE=v123;229906]Ev would murder Susie in anything physical, not just due to her intensity but her overall physical ability. She's just way stronger, faster, more agile and well rounded. She's also really bright too, and has no problem doing anything logical. Susie has nothing on Ev except numbers in a social game. From a purely competitive stand point it's no contest.[/QUOTE] I won't disagree physically, but it's hard to say that Ev would always win in any sort of logic/puzzle. Don't get me wrong, I love Ev, but you really never know what sort of intellectual challenge or elimination round they could throw at you, and Susie is quite intelligent herself. All I'm saying is don't count her out.

I would love to see Tonya destroy Susie in some type of 1 on 1 elimination.

Does anyone knows more tea behind the Susie/Sara podcast/Susie husband and Kail from teen mom "beef"?

I heard that Susie meisters husband bought the name coffee convos behind kail(teen mom) and her cohost linsey back. That some shady stuff went down between that pair and Susie/Sarah despite being friends on the past. Now they can't record their podcast cuz he bought the name.

https://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2020/01/23/exclusive-why-kail-l...

Hmmm don't know. I know there is another show on the network they run called 'coffee convos' but I feel like that's been advertised for like the last hundred episodes if not more (I've never listened it to it because I'm so far behind on all my podcasts and I just like listening to Susie and Sarah). My best educated guess would be the new people want that name but it's already in use and they either didn't realize it or are mad they won't allow them to use it.  

Yeah just did a quick search on iTunes podcast, the podcast is called Coffee Convos and it's been running since June 13, 2018 produced through 'Wave Podcast Network' which is the company Susie and her husband own. edit: ohhhh, I did t realize this Kail person was the host of the podcast that existed already. My bad lol sorry for the brief history of her podcast. Not sure the beef...maybe she wanted out of the network and they said no? 

After reading up on it I guess it would come down to does the network own the show or the people on the show? I can see why it's a muddy subject...but if you're part of a network, I would lean towards them owning it. They creators would still get royalties but since they used a specific network to sell their show to, to use, it would fall under the network. Imo. No clue who any of the teen mom people are, nor do I really care, but trying to look from a non biased BYU's was stand point that sounds legit to me. 

After reading up on it I guess it would come down to does the network own the show or the people on the show? I can see why it's a muddy subject...but if you're part of a network, I would lean towards them owning it. They creators would still get royalties but since they used a specific network to sell their show to, to use, it would fall under the network. Imo. No clue who any of the teen mom people are, nor do I really care, but trying to look from a non biased BYU's was stand point that sounds legit to me. 

Got you! Anywho does Susie/Sarah podcast still covers the challenge?

 

After reading up on it I guess it would come down to does the network own the show or the people on the show? I can see why it's a muddy subject...but if you're part of a network, I would lean towards them owning it. They creators would still get royalties but since they used a specific network to sell their show to, to use, it would fall under the network. Imo. No clue who any of the teen mom people are, nor do I really care, but trying to look from a non biased BYU's was stand point that sounds legit to me. 

Got you! Anywho does Susie/Sarah podcast still covers the challenge?

sadly not really. They mention it from time to time in passing, but earlier last year they steered away from it. Hoping they come back  to it (I'm also behind so maybe they're back on it, but I don't believe they are talking about at all). 

Wack *****.

They stopped talking about the show cause it’s a dead show.

Wack *****.

nope, one of the smartest players this game has ever seen.  

There always have be something about her that gets under my skin

There always have be something about her that gets under my skin

she thinks she's above everyone and is very good at gaslighting. Dishes chit out, when she gets it back she cries and plays victim.  

i remember when she was trying to gaslight Darrell once and he wasn't having it and she tried to ugly cry victim 

There always have be something about her that gets under my skin

SAME. She just seems like the most nasty, spiteful, and miserable human.

There always have be something about her that gets under my skin

she thinks she's above everyone and is very good at gaslighting. Dishes chit out, when she gets it back she cries and plays victim.  

i remember when she was trying to gaslight Darrell once and he wasn't having it and she tried to ugly cry victim 

What are you talking about?   When did this happen?  Darrell likes Susie

I do agree that she thinks she's above everyone (she is better than most of the people honestly) and crying was part of her game.

Just made sure I wasn't delusional and they only did The Ruins together which they were aligned so what are you talking about?