Everytime Susie appears on my TV I begin to dislike her more and more. Of course in real life Susie could be completely different, but on these shows she comes off as very manipulative, catty, and seems to have a huge chip on her shoulder. I like how she rode JEK the entire challenge and did whatever they wanted now she realizes what ******* they are I wish she would have been screwed and sent home last night I think she deserved it.
[QUOTE=msamm;141879][COLOR=red]CrazyRealityGuy[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR=red]She is divorced, all I wanted to do was answer desertpuma's question.[/COLOR][/B]
So, she got divorced within the last 6 months or something? Didn't Evan mention something about a "married woman" going into the final???[/QUOTE]
Susie got divorced. Maybe they legalized the divorce within the last 6 months. The actual divorce proceedings took around 2 years. I know she was going through a tough time during that. I don't think Evan wanted to say a divorcee going into the final.
[QUOTE=Wilderwolf;141927]Why do I always seem to like the ones everyone else dislikes? haha[/QUOTE]
I don't know why everyone is surprised. Susie's been like this since Gauntlet 2, but I guess its because she's associated with JEKD. I have never cared for her much, but she's been kicking *** and absolutely deserves to be there.
I can't argue with that tj, she's won the ruins and obviously played a good game since she's still there. She is so hypocritical though she worked with them the entire game and acted just like them now hates them?
[QUOTE=Bolt8;142068]I can't argue with that tj, she's won the ruins and obviously played a good game since she's still there. She is so hypocritical though she worked with them the entire game and acted just like them now hates them?[/QUOTE]
Maybe because they tried to screw her over....
[QUOTE=Bolt8;142076]She deserved it though.....I hate how these vets come on the show and kiss their butt. You think the vets would learn.[/QUOTE]
Describe Vet..because Kenny did more challenges than Susie. You also have to throw in the fact that some of these cast members who have "alliances" are friends in real life.
Yeah, I'm sure if Susie didn't agree with them, her *** would have been in against Kelly Anne earlier, and she could have possibly went home. Veronica would have sold her grandmother up the river to be in that alliance, JEKD would have just gotten another girl.
How did Susie deserve to be screwed over? She did everything they said and went into 3 ruins and won, I'd say she deserves to be there more than Kenny, Evan, and Derrick.
Dear god...I'm sticking up for Susie.
When I say Vet I mean old school like before Las Vegas and at this point any Road Ruler lol. I know that alot of them are friends outside of the show but I don't think Susie and Veronica are calling up Kenny and Evan to hang out. I agree I was disapointed with Veronica I think she and Katie should have teamed up against them. My point is a lot of these old schoolers that should be in control are letting JEK take control, they see them screw people over but yet they still follow and for that they get what they deserve it when JEK screws them.
Hearing this over and over is getting a little redundant. Maybe Susie, Veronica, and other "Vets" are following this power alliance because they are that, a power alliance. They are running the show and Susie and these other "Vets" want to be a part of their show. I'm also tired of hearing who deserves to be there and who doesn't. I believe Susie deserves to be there because she is there. 3 ruins or not, she did what she had to do and kicked some ***. Kenny, Evan and Derrick didn't go into any ruins but are there, so they deserve to be there. As much as I hate Johnny, he deserves to be there even if he didn't go into the ruins against Dunbar. No one wants to go into the ruins. People have put their favorites on a pedestal and don't realize that the people there just did better then them. People have put Kelly Anne and Sarah on a pedestal over the Champs because the Champs have played a shady game. Doesn't anyone realize that they're Champs because they've all played a shady game?
[QUOTE=faceless;142095][B]Hearing this over and over is getting a little redundant.[/B] Maybe Susie, Veronica, and other "Vets" are following this power alliance because they are that, a power alliance. They are running the show and Susie and these other "Vets" want to be a part of their show. I'm also tired of hearing who deserves to be there and who doesn't. I believe Susie deserves to be there because she is there. 3 ruins or not, she did what she had to do and kicked some ***. Kenny, Evan and Derrick didn't go into any ruins but are there, so they deserve to be there. As much as I hate Johnny, he deserves to be there even if he didn't go into the ruins against Dunbar. No one wants to go into the ruins. People have put their favorites on a pedestal and don't realize that the people there just did better then them. People have put Kelly Anne and Sarah on a pedestal over the Champs because the Champs have played a shady game. Doesn't anyone realize that they're Champs because they've all played a shady game?[/QUOTE]
Slow clap...
reason 878 why I love faceless.
Faceless I agree with you everyone that is there deserves to be there. Whoever wins Survivor, Big Brother, Amazing Race or what ever other reality show deserved it cause no matter my personal opinions of them they obviously did everything right. BUT, I feel like Susie & Veronica both deserved to be screwed over by Kenny & Evan, they know that they are shady *** holes but decided to work with them anyway. If I stick my hand in a fire I deserve to get burned, cause I knew before I put my hand in there I was going to get burned. Yes, you want to follow the "power alliance" but start your own damn power alliance!
[QUOTE=tjhallow;142096]Slow clap...
reason 878 why I love faceless.[/QUOTE]
..joining the clapping myself.
i agree 100%, anyone who makes it to the final, either avoiding all danger, all volunteering to all danger, deserves to be there.
I love the challenges because you can try to power your way to the end or you can scheme your way to end, but you know that starting on day one anything can happen, winners can win again, or upsets can. either way it makes (usually) for a helluva ride.
[QUOTE=Bolt8;142313]She beat Kim & Casey, I don't think that is to much to brag about. Her only accomplishment was beating Brianna.[/QUOTE]
personally i think that Kim has demostrated that she IS a strong competitor, on the challenges and on the faceoffs. actually i think she is, due to her experience, a stronger competition that Briana.
Beating Kim is a big accomplishment. How is beating Bri something to brag about? I love Brianna but she didn't do anything to prove herself as a strong player.
Has she ever been beaten in a one on one competition? I don't think so.
She can do what she wants if no one can beat her. She plays a really good game. Is it dirty? Yes Does it work? YES
[QUOTE=Fresh Prince;142357]Has she ever been beaten in a one on one competition? I don't think so.
She can do what she wants if no one can beat her. She plays a really good game. Is it dirty? Yes [B]Does it work? YES[/B][/QUOTE]
And that's all that matters. Yet people want to attack her and other people who play the same game because they are playing a shady game against the people they like.
She is one of the best at picking her spots and can back up her talk. I don't know how you couldn't respect her ends even if you don't respect her means of getting those ends.
Who has Susie beaten Jenn, Kim, Bri, & Casey? Before this challenge who did she beat to prove how great she is? I don't think she's weak but I don't think she's anything to brag about. She is strong enough to guide her way through being a manipulative player. Good for her, do what it takes to make it to the end. I just think she is fake, shady, annoying, and walks around with a chip on her shoulder. So a TV character I don't like her.
[QUOTE=Bolt8;142368]Who has Susie beaten Jenn, Kim, Bri, & Casey? Before this challenge who did she beat to prove how great she is? I don't think she's weak but I don't think she's anything to brag about. She is strong enough to guide her way through being a manipulative player. Good for her, do what it takes to make it to the end. I just think she is fake, shady, annoying, and walks around with a chip on her shoulder. So a TV character I don't like her.[/QUOTE]
Okay, so who are some of your favorites? Because I guarantee that at least a couple of them have some sense of entitlement and are annoying to some people. Susie hasn't been on a lot of challenges but she has made it to the end of G2, I3 and now the Ruins. G2 keeping herself out of a gauntlet, I3 winning many life shields and when she didn't she went in and came back and now the ruins she went in a few times and came back every single time. For some reason people think Kelly Anne is some amazing player and is a proven player. How is she more proven then Susie?
It seems to me that this season Susie has gotten an edit very similar to the one Beth always used to get. As we all know, Beth is actually a very good person, so I would assume that Susie is too.
I realize people like Susie it's personal prefrence I just don't like her or MTV's edit of her. I don't know her so I can't judge her on anything but what I see on TV. My favorites are Julie & Heather (RW1), Lindsay (RW7), Holly (RR7), Kendal (RR11), Cameran (RW14), Katie (RR11), Teck (RW8), Theo (RW11), & Dave (RR12).
Susie is one of my favorite Road Rulers of all time, but I hope she does not participate in more challenges. She doesn't need to get involved in any more of the drama that these challenges bring.
It seems that many people dislike her for whatever reason, but like many others said, once you see her original season you can begin to appreciate how she has grown during her time with MTV. People, on the boards and on the challenges (Johnny), seem to make a big deal about her alliance with Cara, but it seems like everyone has an alliance of these challenges. For example, Veronica/Rachel (numerous challenges), Kenny/Evan/Johnny (numerous challenges), Mark/Eric/Theo/Dan (Battle of the Sexes 2), Wes/Evan (Duel 1), Melinda/Johanna/Rachel/Nehemiah (Gauntlet 3), Kenny/Johnny/Johanna/Paula/Derrick (The Island), etc. I don't know why Susie and Cara take so much heat. The fact of the matter is that people have friends on theses challenges and those are the people they want to be with at the end.
I think Susie has played the best game out of everyone on the Ruins. You cannot disagree that she has not earned a spot in the finals.
She is tied for most appearances in an elimination challenge this season and holds the record for most victories (Derrick, Kenny, and Evan did not even go into the Ruins). Additionally, it should not matter who she has defeated because she nominated herself to go in more than any girl on her team. There were ample opportunities for her to be called into the Ruins (it's the challengers' fault that they only won 1 challenge) or nominated by her own team.
She's also played a terrific social game. Susie does not seem like someone who hangs out with most of these people outside of the shows. You have to give her credit for coming into the challenge knowing that many people are friends outside of these games and getting in good with the people who seem to be running the game. People claim that Veronica is such a good player, but she wasn't able to do anything on this challenge in terms of strategy. Good players can make it to the end by being carried by their friends (most of the veterans during the Gauntlet 3, Johnny on the Island, etc), but better players can come into a challenge and devise a plan to make it to the end. You cannot disagree that she is not a smart player.
She's also intelligent and witty. People shouldn't get upset with her because she can win in a war on words. If anything, people should appreciate that she puts some of these people in their places.
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I agree that these challenges have become less fun to watch because the same people are repeatedly on them and it seems that strategy has replaced natural ability. However, certain people cannot be criticized while others are not.
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