Let's be real here, a 500,000 dollar prize plus whatever they have to pay each person on the cast is probably what makes it not worth filming for the viewership it gets. 24 people making even around 20,000 dollars puts the talent cost at a million dollars before you factor in logistics and crew and all that other jazz.
Let's be real here, a 500,000 dollar prize plus whatever they have to pay each person on the cast is probably what makes it not worth filming for the viewership it gets. 24 people making even around 20,000 dollars puts the talent cost at a million dollars before you factor in logistics and crew and all that other jazz.
You realize that it's still a lot cheaper than any scripted show right? That's why they'll spend 700k or more just for the cast on Homecoming.
I mean I really dont think diversity is the biggest issue. Just pay for Theresa & Cooke, and have Brandon/Averey/Marlon/Latoya on who would do it for anything (and they'd bring more to the table than people like Melinda anyways) and keep casting some rotation of Jasmine/Tina/Roni/Jonna/Darrell/Yes/Latterian/Janelle/Ayanna/Nehemiah/Alton/Jisela/Aneesa etc, its not that hard. Revisit people who only played once that had potential like Ayiia, Noor, etc.
Im sure there are other issues like PR said, but I wouldnt consider diversity a big one.
Anyways not shocked to see Tina gone, but this is so bad for Veronica. Not entirely politicallly, as she has a couple strong male allies and potentially even on the girls side (Roni, Kailah), but she just lost the only 4 people she could confidently beat in an elimination LOL and even if she does make the final, its going to be tough to beat the other women.
Depending on how many people run the final, I think at this point at least 1, if not 2 or all 3 of Kendal/KellyAnne/Jonna are making the final, and then one of Kailah/Sylvia/Nia for sure as well. Im hoping Roni and Veronica can pull through.
In terms of the format, Im speculating that last place goes in, considering the fact that Cynthia, Melinda and Tina were 3 of the weakest girls there, and Syrus/Tyler are gone too.
Cynthia would be better. Hell I'd rather get Melinda back
In what way would they be better? They are just as useless as Tina competition wise, but at least Tina wil bring drama and have an interesting place amongst the politics.
I love Jonna but her and Kendal/KellyAnne gotta go, this season has potential and I would like to maximize that potential by not having the 3 most boring girls in the final.
I mean I really dont think diversity is the biggest issue. Just pay for Theresa & Cooke, and have Brandon/Averey/Marlon/Latoya on who would do it for anything (and they'd bring more to the table than people like Melinda anyways) and keep casting some rotation of Jasmine/Tina/Roni/Jonna/Darrell/Yes/Latterian/Janelle/Ayanna/Nehemiah/Alton/Jisela/Aneesa etc, its not that hard. Revisit people who only played once that had potential like Ayiia, Noor, etc.
Im sure there are other issues like PR said, but I wouldnt consider diversity a big one.
Theresa declined she is getting paid Cor the amount of shows she did and the weeks this films often she accepts. Cooke has declined 2/3 because her husband doesn't want her to leave since he hard time during season 1 when she left as an alternate plus she only did 1 challenge she isn't getting the same amount as others that are more relevant.
I wouldnt mind that, she's boring af but her presence and messy gameplay cause chaos. so she's the most entertaining of the 3. If I have to drop one its KellyAnne. She isnt as likeable as Jonna and isnt interesting at all.
Cynthia would be better. Hell I'd rather get Melinda back
In what way would they be better? They are just as useless as Tina competition wise, but at least Tina wil bring drama and have an interesting place amongst the politics.
Tina had never brought drama I cared about. Even when she tried to hit Beth she flopped. She was always just a sidekick. Tina also quit and didn't try during Cutthroat. I'm mad she even returned.
Melinda adds a number for Wes and with the weaker guys gone that can be interesting
Cynthia adds nothing but she's not Tina so that's enough for me.
I love Jonna but her and Kendal/KellyAnne gotta go, this season has potential and I would like to maximize that potential by not having the 3 most boring girls in the final.
Enjoy the drama leading to the final and let's have the best run it. Regardless of who that is.
I mean I really dont think diversity is the biggest issue. Just pay for Theresa & Cooke, and have Brandon/Averey/Marlon/Latoya on who would do it for anything (and they'd bring more to the table than people like Melinda anyways) and keep casting some rotation of Jasmine/Tina/Roni/Jonna/Darrell/Yes/Latterian/Janelle/Ayanna/Nehemiah/Alton/Jisela/Aneesa etc, its not that hard. Revisit people who only played once that had potential like Ayiia, Noor, etc.
Im sure there are other issues like PR said, but I wouldnt consider diversity a big one.
Theresa declined she is getting paid Cor the amount of shows she did and the weeks this films often she accepts. Cooke has declined 2/3 because her husband doesn't want her to leave since he hard time during season 1 when she left as an alternate plus she only did 1 challenge she isn't getting the same amount as others that are more relevant.
Wait im confused. Didnt Gamer say Theresa would say yes if they offered her more money? Are you saying she wouldnt accept regardless of the pay? And Cooke's husband needs to get over it, he had a hard time when she left for a MONTH? Pls. Regardless there is a good pool of 20-30 POC All stars they can use.
I love Jonna but her and Kendal/KellyAnne gotta go, this season has potential and I would like to maximize that potential by not having the 3 most boring girls in the final.
Enjoy the drama leading to the final and let's have the best run it. Regardless of who that is.
I love Jonna but her and Kendal/KellyAnne gotta go, this season has potential and I would like to maximize that potential by not having the 3 most boring girls in the final.
Enjoy the drama leading to the final and let's have the best run it. Regardless of who that is.
Wdym by "best run"
Have the best competitors run the final. If that's Kailah Nia and Sylvia then so be it but having people that bring drams in the final is irrelevant
I mean I really dont think diversity is the biggest issue. Just pay for Theresa & Cooke, and have Brandon/Averey/Marlon/Latoya on who would do it for anything (and they'd bring more to the table than people like Melinda anyways) and keep casting some rotation of Jasmine/Tina/Roni/Jonna/Darrell/Yes/Latterian/Janelle/Ayanna/Nehemiah/Alton/Jisela/Aneesa etc, its not that hard. Revisit people who only played once that had potential like Ayiia, Noor, etc.
Im sure there are other issues like PR said, but I wouldnt consider diversity a big one.
Theresa declined she is getting paid Cor the amount of shows she did and the weeks this films often she accepts. Cooke has declined 2/3 because her husband doesn't want her to leave since he hard time during season 1 when she left as an alternate plus she only did 1 challenge she isn't getting the same amount as others that are more relevant.
Wait im confused. Didnt Gamer say Theresa would say yes if they offered her more money? Are you saying she wouldnt accept regardless of the pay? And Cooke's husband needs to get over it, he had a hard time when she left for a MONTH? Pls. Regardless there is a good pool of 20-30 POC All stars they can use.
Theresa was expecting more money than double agents which isn't happening since it's shorter filming. Plus, I don't see her accepting an actual show until she is in good shape again.
I love Jonna but her and Kendal/KellyAnne gotta go, this season has potential and I would like to maximize that potential by not having the 3 most boring girls in the final.
Enjoy the drama leading to the final and let's have the best run it. Regardless of who that is.
Wdym by "best run"
Have the best competitors run the final. If that's Kailah Nia and Sylvia then so be it but having people that bring drams in the final is irrelevant
? Who cares about having the "best" competitors in the final? That logic is so dumb. First of all this isnt a sport. Second of all, how is watching 40 minutes of who out of Kailah/Kendal/Kellyanne/Jonna can run and climb a mountain the fastest more exciting than several episodes of those girls being put against each other in eliminations?? Why wouldnt you want people like V/Tina around long so they stir the pot, while the strongest girls deliver in exciting elimination matchups?
Theresa was expecting more money than double agents which isn't happening since it's shorter filming. Plus, I don't see her accepting an actual show until she is in good shape again.
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That makes sense. I was surprised people were expecting her on this and that she was even considering it for the right money considering she just had a baby a couple months ago and still needs several surgeries. Sis needs to hurry up though, bc All Stars wont last much longer. Is there any hope of her accepting for a regular season?
Interesting about Kendal and kinda surprising considering the female cast of All Stars 2 isnt very strong at all (on paper at least), and is definitely weaker than this one.
? Who cares about having the "best" competitors in the final? That logic is so dumb. First of all this isnt a sport. Second of all, how is watching 40 minutes of who out of Kailah/Kendal/Kellyanne/Jonna can run and climb a mountain the fastest more exciting than several episodes of those girls being put against each other in eliminations?? Why wouldnt you want people like V/Tina around long so they stir the pot, while the strongest girls deliver in exciting elimination matchups?
You can say it's not a sport all you want--many watch it that way. Tina adds NOTHING in my mind. She's boring, she's intolerable and she doesn't try. Veronica on the other hand adds a lot especially when she cares. Putting those two together is laughable. And I don't like watching people like Easy or Aneesa waste a spot in a final. Hell, many here claim they don't care who wins or they don't even watch the final because of spoilers. That's the episode I care the most about. So we're not looking for the same thing. Again, you're overrating Tina in every aspect especailly drama.
? Who cares about having the "best" competitors in the final? That logic is so dumb. First of all this isnt a sport. Second of all, how is watching 40 minutes of who out of Kailah/Kendal/Kellyanne/Jonna can run and climb a mountain the fastest more exciting than several episodes of those girls being put against each other in eliminations?? Why wouldnt you want people like V/Tina around long so they stir the pot, while the strongest girls deliver in exciting elimination matchups?
You can say it's not a sport all you want--many watch it that way. Tina adds NOTHING in my mind. She's boring, she's intolerable and she doesn't try. Veronica on the other hand adds a lot especially when she cares. Putting those two together is laughable. And I don't like watching people like Easy or Aneesa waste a spot in a final. Hell, many here claim they don't care who wins or they don't even watch the final because of spoilers. That's the episode I care the most about. So we're not looking for the same thing. Again, you're overrating Tina in every aspect especailly drama.
I despise Tina, she's a tryhard that thinks she's much better than she is and she did my fave dirty in Cutthroat, but why lie and say shes boring? She's at least more interesting than half of the girls cast, even if I were to agree that she's overrated. And im not talking about Easy/Aneesa, they are bottom tier competitors and arent interesting at all and they arent comparable to Tina/Veroncia who bring drama. The same way Im not crying about people like Cynthia/Sophia/Melinda not making it far, because they are boring regardless of how they are as competitors.
Its silly for you to watch the entire season and enjoy predictable boots just to watch for an "exciting" 40 minute finale. I think consistent entertainment is much more interesting, meaning watching Nia/Kendal/KellyAnne/Jonna/Kailah/Sylvia target each other and go up against each other in head to head eliminations.
My point isnt that we should want to see all the weak competitors go far and all the strong competitors leave early, I want the entertaining competitors to go far and the boring ones to go early. I despise Kailah and Tina, but they add to the show so I want them to go far. The same way it was obvious who would win Free Agents on the girls side considering Laurel is much better than Nany and Devyn, but they still provided an interesting finale and all 3 were entertaining that season.
Y'all think they filmed 3 seasons only because Paramount+ ordered 3 seasons?
Let's be real here, a 500,000 dollar prize plus whatever they have to pay each person on the cast is probably what makes it not worth filming for the viewership it gets. 24 people making even around 20,000 dollars puts the talent cost at a million dollars before you factor in logistics and crew and all that other jazz.
I kinda already assumed this wouldn't go for more than 3, dunno why.
You realize that it's still a lot cheaper than any scripted show right? That's why they'll spend 700k or more just for the cast on Homecoming.
I mean I really dont think diversity is the biggest issue. Just pay for Theresa & Cooke, and have Brandon/Averey/Marlon/Latoya on who would do it for anything (and they'd bring more to the table than people like Melinda anyways) and keep casting some rotation of Jasmine/Tina/Roni/Jonna/Darrell/Yes/Latterian/Janelle/Ayanna/Nehemiah/Alton/Jisela/Aneesa etc, its not that hard. Revisit people who only played once that had potential like Ayiia, Noor, etc.
Im sure there are other issues like PR said, but I wouldnt consider diversity a big one.
Anyways not shocked to see Tina gone, but this is so bad for Veronica. Not entirely politicallly, as she has a couple strong male allies and potentially even on the girls side (Roni, Kailah), but she just lost the only 4 people she could confidently beat in an elimination LOL and even if she does make the final, its going to be tough to beat the other women.
Depending on how many people run the final, I think at this point at least 1, if not 2 or all 3 of Kendal/KellyAnne/Jonna are making the final, and then one of Kailah/Sylvia/Nia for sure as well. Im hoping Roni and Veronica can pull through.
In terms of the format, Im speculating that last place goes in, considering the fact that Cynthia, Melinda and Tina were 3 of the weakest girls there, and Syrus/Tyler are gone too.
Prayers Tina replaces Jimmy!
Cynthia would be better. Hell I'd rather get Melinda back
In what way would they be better? They are just as useless as Tina competition wise, but at least Tina wil bring drama and have an interesting place amongst the politics.
I love Jonna but her and Kendal/KellyAnne gotta go, this season has potential and I would like to maximize that potential by not having the 3 most boring girls in the final.
Never mind, forgot Sylvia is there too.
Kendal can be the token boring girl in the final. The rest can go.
Theresa declined she is getting paid Cor the amount of shows she did and the weeks this films often she accepts. Cooke has declined 2/3 because her husband doesn't want her to leave since he hard time during season 1 when she left as an alternate plus she only did 1 challenge she isn't getting the same amount as others that are more relevant.
I wouldnt mind that, she's boring af but her presence and messy gameplay cause chaos. so she's the most entertaining of the 3. If I have to drop one its KellyAnne. She isnt as likeable as Jonna and isnt interesting at all.
Tina had never brought drama I cared about. Even when she tried to hit Beth she flopped. She was always just a sidekick. Tina also quit and didn't try during Cutthroat. I'm mad she even returned.
Melinda adds a number for Wes and with the weaker guys gone that can be interesting
Cynthia adds nothing but she's not Tina so that's enough for me.
Enjoy the drama leading to the final and let's have the best run it. Regardless of who that is.
Wait im confused. Didnt Gamer say Theresa would say yes if they offered her more money? Are you saying she wouldnt accept regardless of the pay? And Cooke's husband needs to get over it, he had a hard time when she left for a MONTH? Pls. Regardless there is a good pool of 20-30 POC All stars they can use.
Wdym by "best run"
Have the best competitors run the final. If that's Kailah Nia and Sylvia then so be it but having people that bring drams in the final is irrelevant
Theresa was expecting more money than double agents which isn't happening since it's shorter filming. Plus, I don't see her accepting an actual show until she is in good shape again.
Supposedly Kendal didn't shine as much on season 2 dailies so I am curious to see what route she goes this season
? Who cares about having the "best" competitors in the final? That logic is so dumb. First of all this isnt a sport. Second of all, how is watching 40 minutes of who out of Kailah/Kendal/Kellyanne/Jonna can run and climb a mountain the fastest more exciting than several episodes of those girls being put against each other in eliminations?? Why wouldnt you want people like V/Tina around long so they stir the pot, while the strongest girls deliver in exciting elimination matchups?
Theresa was expecting more money than double agents which isn't happening since it's shorter filming. Plus, I don't see her accepting an actual show until she is in good shape again.
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That makes sense. I was surprised people were expecting her on this and that she was even considering it for the right money considering she just had a baby a couple months ago and still needs several surgeries. Sis needs to hurry up though, bc All Stars wont last much longer. Is there any hope of her accepting for a regular season?
queen getting her redemption this season
Interesting about Kendal and kinda surprising considering the female cast of All Stars 2 isnt very strong at all (on paper at least), and is definitely weaker than this one.
You can say it's not a sport all you want--many watch it that way. Tina adds NOTHING in my mind. She's boring, she's intolerable and she doesn't try. Veronica on the other hand adds a lot especially when she cares. Putting those two together is laughable. And I don't like watching people like Easy or Aneesa waste a spot in a final. Hell, many here claim they don't care who wins or they don't even watch the final because of spoilers. That's the episode I care the most about. So we're not looking for the same thing. Again, you're overrating Tina in every aspect especailly drama.
Do you guys have predictions on who's out next for the men and women? Im thinking Roni/Yes.
You need to be banned for putting that out into the universe.
I despise Tina, she's a tryhard that thinks she's much better than she is and she did my fave dirty in Cutthroat, but why lie and say shes boring? She's at least more interesting than half of the girls cast, even if I were to agree that she's overrated. And im not talking about Easy/Aneesa, they are bottom tier competitors and arent interesting at all and they arent comparable to Tina/Veroncia who bring drama. The same way Im not crying about people like Cynthia/Sophia/Melinda not making it far, because they are boring regardless of how they are as competitors.
Its silly for you to watch the entire season and enjoy predictable boots just to watch for an "exciting" 40 minute finale. I think consistent entertainment is much more interesting, meaning watching Nia/Kendal/KellyAnne/Jonna/Kailah/Sylvia target each other and go up against each other in head to head eliminations.
My point isnt that we should want to see all the weak competitors go far and all the strong competitors leave early, I want the entertaining competitors to go far and the boring ones to go early. I despise Kailah and Tina, but they add to the show so I want them to go far. The same way it was obvious who would win Free Agents on the girls side considering Laurel is much better than Nany and Devyn, but they still provided an interesting finale and all 3 were entertaining that season.
Gosh I have never wrote a think piece that long on here.
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