i know you guys aren't blaming diversity and not the fact that nobody watches this. haven't they been caught buying views for the trailers? come on the niche audience of people in 2021 that want to watch washed up MTV Challenge vets was not that big to begin with.
we're lucky we got 3.
Don't kid yourself--the nonsensical 50% diversity is a huge issue--pretending otherwise is naive.
no one you guys like is saying yes. so black and brown people aside how different is the cast becoming. if every one was saying yes and on board i might agree but no one worth a damn is.
thinking otherwise on that is whats naive brother
Important people declining is also a huge issue but having to keep up with diversity is just as big if not bigger. See Sophia and Steve being cast. I can assure you they could have found non-diverse options that are better
name them. name someone on All Star caliber that would move the needle that you can confirm agreed to be here and was told no for Sophia and Steven.
I said "better" than them. Read what is written for once kiddo
I said "better" than them. Read what is written for once kiddo
so no names that would move the needle which is what the conversation is about to begin with. name a name
Literally anyone is better. For example Holly Shand > Sophia since Holly accepted and wasn't used. You know as well as any raional person it's an issue. Actually you're not rational so...
i know you guys aren't blaming diversity and not the fact that nobody watches this. haven't they been caught buying views for the trailers? come on the niche audience of people in 2021 that want to watch washed up MTV Challenge vets was not that big to begin with.
we're lucky we got 3.
Don't kid yourself--the nonsensical 50% diversity is a huge issue--pretending otherwise is naive.
It's nonsensical, first off. And second, it's only a huge issue to racists.
It does limit casting pool when there is an small percentage of ppl accepting but they cant cast certain ppl over people like Sophia to make it as diverse as possible
the issue is it's boring as shit let's just keep it real, paramount plus is dead in the water. if they wanted to do the Challenge Allstars it should have just been aired on MTV for a mile stone season number like idk "40" or something.
Season 40 of MTV's The Challenge....The Challenge All Stars Old School vs New School. Half old all stars competing against half new allstars. alternate weeks of doing throwback challenges and spy explosive things. promote tf out of it.
THEY REALLY ADDED THESE ALLSTARS FROM RECENT SEASONS TO BOOST RATINGS AND ITS STILL GETTING CANCELLED... I HAVE TO LAUGH
It has nothing to do with this season not even season 2 lol
There has been a lot of logistics issues since season 1 not just about the cast but show direction between BMP and Paramount+ hence at some point they tried the other spinoff (the one that is basically the challenge but just for streaming) that they haven't film atleast not yet.
Does anyone know where MTV said they were doing a 50% poc cast? I know CBS announced one but I didn't have any clue that MTV did one too
Paramount is CBS
So does this requirement qualify for only AS or does it include the main show? If it does include the main show then it sort of makes sense for them to cast a lot of international randos, but there still are plenty of good poc choices from the US too
lmaooo some of you guys are delusional he isn't going to force ppl that don't want to do it, clear people medically or transform ppl into making the cast diverse
lmaooo some of you guys are delusional he isn't going to force ppl that don't want to do it, clear people medically or transform ppl into making the cast diverse
Didn't mark want tony and Emily s on season 1
Yes! & he didn't consider Shane OG enough or something like that lmao
Casting cant be fix when they have a limited casting pool and they have to make the cast 50% diverse which make it even more limited because regardless of what they say on social media they are declining or dropping or not even passing physical exams.
I'm sorry PR, but I just think that is bull. Casting has got it in their heads that they decide who is an "all-star" and who is not. There are plenty of all-star caliber minority players. Latoya is an all-star caliber personality who brings drama and has won an elimination. And she's African American! Cooke is Filipina. Averey is half Latina/Native American. Brandon's not the most exciting casting choice, but he's a fan favorite and African American. Marlon IS an exciting casting choice and fits both LGBT and minority quotas and an absolute monster competitively.
All of the above have won eliminations and been a part of memorable arguments/fights and were super fun on The Challenge. That's almost 20% of a cast right there. But there's this air of "oh they're irrelevant". How are they any more irrelevant than Cynthia or Sophia or Derek?
They're playing favorites just like they did on the main show and are acting like they're running out of All-Star talent.
i know you guys aren't blaming diversity and not the fact that nobody watches this. haven't they been caught buying views for the trailers? come on the niche audience of people in 2021 that want to watch washed up MTV Challenge vets was not that big to begin with.
we're lucky we got 3.
Don't kid yourself--the nonsensical 50% diversity is a huge issue--pretending otherwise is naive.
It's nonsensical, first off. And second, it's only a huge issue to racists.
KVM and I are on vastly different political sides of the spectrum but this is an unfair statement from you. 50% is great when it applies to new casts, but when you're applying it to a small existing pool thats already wildly undiverse, there's problems. Seeing LT & Nehemiah for 3 seasons in a row is disapointing when there are other old schoolers like Jamie, Dan R and Nathan who are wanting a chance to compete. The other problem is that makes the "white slots" very competitve and production is going to give them to people like Derrick, Brad, Wes etc. That being said, the women's side seems to have figured their crap out lol.
lmaooo some of you guys are delusional he isn't going to force ppl that don't want to do it, clear people medically or transform ppl into making the cast diverse
Didn't mark want tony and Emily s on season 1
Yes! & he didn't consider Shane OG enough or something like that lmao
I always took that to be a white lie on his part. I think he knew full well that Shane was OG but knew he'd never be cast so didn't bother reaching out lol
Do we know any of the people who eliminated some of these ppl? Sorry if it's been answered already. Haven't been on in a few days due to depression after roblox being down. I finally ate today.
I said "better" than them. Read what is written for once kiddo
so no names that would move the needle which is what the conversation is about to begin with. name a name
Literally anyone is better. For example Holly Shand > Sophia since Holly accepted and wasn't used. You know as well as any raional person it's an issue. Actually you're not rational so...
The issue is casting not "moving the needle"
breaking news Holly Shand halted the cancellation of The Challenge Allstars. what a queen she is
THEY REALLY ADDED THESE ALLSTARS FROM RECENT SEASONS TO BOOST RATINGS AND ITS STILL GETTING CANCELLED... I HAVE TO LAUGH
Holly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sophia. You're clearly not following the discussion per always
It does limit casting pool when there is an small percentage of ppl accepting but they cant cast certain ppl over people like Sophia to make it as diverse as possible
the issue is it's boring as shit let's just keep it real, paramount plus is dead in the water. if they wanted to do the Challenge Allstars it should have just been aired on MTV for a mile stone season number like idk "40" or something.
Season 40 of MTV's The Challenge....The Challenge All Stars Old School vs New School. Half old all stars competing against half new allstars. alternate weeks of doing throwback challenges and spy explosive things. promote tf out of it.
done. The End.
It has nothing to do with this season not even season 2 lol
There has been a lot of logistics issues since season 1 not just about the cast but show direction between BMP and Paramount+ hence at some point they tried the other spinoff (the one that is basically the challenge but just for streaming) that they haven't film atleast not yet.
If I was Paramount+, I'd be desperately trying to keep this show going despite the issues.
What shows do they have??? Other than Big Brother, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the top 2-3 show they have right now.
But let's be honest, are we really shocked it might only last only 3 seasons?
Lmao who is WesTracked? They are my new favorite poster
You do tend to like people that have no clue what they're talking about
awww, stay mad Creepy Uncle Kevin.
Okay Emy
Does anyone know where MTV said they were doing a 50% poc cast? I know CBS announced one but I didn't have any clue that MTV did one too
You thought you ate that lmaoooo
Paramount is CBS
appreciate that brother. i don't even enjoy arguing but something just isn't right with some of these people lol
So does this requirement qualify for only AS or does it include the main show? If it does include the main show then it sort of makes sense for them to cast a lot of international randos, but there still are plenty of good poc choices from the US too
KVM brings the worst out in people, trust me you are not alone, you'll see how he operates
Does this mean no Road Rules reboot?
Probably a good thing. They'd probably throw people like Kailah or paulie on the cast.
Didn't mark want tony and Emily s on season 1
Yes! & he didn't consider Shane OG enough or something like that lmao
I'm dead at thinking people from 2004 nobody cares about would have stopped this from being canceled. You want this to get even more niche?
This isn't 2010 brandon is not a fan favorite lol
Imagine using Brandon, Cooke, LaToya, Marlon and Averey as exciting/fan favorites lol
KVM and I are on vastly different political sides of the spectrum but this is an unfair statement from you. 50% is great when it applies to new casts, but when you're applying it to a small existing pool thats already wildly undiverse, there's problems. Seeing LT & Nehemiah for 3 seasons in a row is disapointing when there are other old schoolers like Jamie, Dan R and Nathan who are wanting a chance to compete. The other problem is that makes the "white slots" very competitve and production is going to give them to people like Derrick, Brad, Wes etc. That being said, the women's side seems to have figured their crap out lol.
I always took that to be a white lie on his part. I think he knew full well that Shane was OG but knew he'd never be cast so didn't bother reaching out lol
Do we know any of the people who eliminated some of these ppl? Sorry if it's been answered already. Haven't been on in a few days due to depression after roblox being down. I finally ate today.
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