The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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CT is doing everything perfectly and as a cast member I can see why he keeps coming back. But as a viewer im tired of it lmao, also I feel like production is doing what they can to keep him in the game as long as possible. Casuals hated his early boots.

The amount of power he got last season for winning one mission was crazy, and on this current season everytime CT name is brought up in a negative way, its turned into a positive by the end of the episode lmaoo. People keep saying the other guys need to try harder, which I agree but you cant beat CT when production is working to keep him in the game.

CT is doing everything perfectly and as a cast member I can see why he keeps coming back. But as a viewer im tired of it lmao, also I feel like production is doing what they can to keep him in the game as long as possible. Casuals hated his early boots.

The amount of power he got last season for winning one mission was crazy, and on this current season everytime CT name is brought up in a negative way, its turned into a positive by the end of the episode lmaoo. People keep saying the other guys need to try harder, which I agree but you cant beat CT when production is working to keep him in the game.

You missing a huge thing from least season also that first elim was going to be him and Wes and it changed to a girls day and somehow Nany gave him a skip right to final

Why is no one talking about Josh checking out CT in the party scene last episode he got exposed af 

Why is no one talking about Josh checking out CT in the party scene last episode he got exposed af 

What is there to talk about ? Many of us already know Josh is a " sista " those who are still in denial probably will never see it 

CT is doing everything perfectly and as a cast member I can see why he keeps coming back. But as a viewer im tired of it lmao, also I feel like production is doing what they can to keep him in the game as long as possible. Casuals hated his early boots.

The amount of power he got last season for winning one mission was crazy, and on this current season everytime CT name is brought up in a negative way, its turned into a positive by the end of the episode lmaoo. People keep saying the other guys need to try harder, which I agree but you cant beat CT when production is working to keep him in the game.

At this point Does CT's political game this season have a case for the greatest of all time?

Apparently, from what Bananas, Wes, and others have said, he uses the same political style every season. The difference between him and other players is they relish in showing off their moves on camera while he wants his manipulation and deals off camera. And supposedly, this goes way back because Rachel said recently he was doing that with girls against her.  

He's good at putting ideas in people's heads and tricking them into taking credit for it so no blood is on his hands and they are the target if sh- goes down.

 

At this point Does CT's political game this season have a case for the greatest of all time?

Apparently, from what Bananas, Wes, and others have said, he uses the same political style every season. The difference between him and other players is they relish in showing off their moves on camera while he wants his manipulation and deals off camera. And supposedly, this goes way back because Rachel said recently he was doing that with girls against her.  

He's good at putting ideas in people's heads and tricking them into taking credit for it  so no blood is on his hands and they are the target if sh- goes down.

@ Devin 

CT plays a boring game.

Imagine how much better this season would have been if Hunter was on instead of CT?

Imagine how much better this season would have been if Hunter was on instead of CT?

Because that would only happen in your imagination.

CT plays a boring game.

The goal is to win. And manipulating everyone so that you don't see an elimination after winning the prior season is amazing game play. 

 

CT plays a boring game.

The goal is to win. And manipulating everyone so that you don't see an elimination after winning the prior season is amazing game play. 

he said boring not bad

You can play a good game while being boring 

 

 

CT plays a boring game.

The goal is to win. And manipulating everyone so that you don't see an elimination after winning the prior season is amazing game play. 

he said boring not bad

Then you don't like gameplay. The best gameplay should be boring otherwise you're overplaying.

 

 

 

CT plays a boring game.

The goal is to win. And manipulating everyone so that you don't see an elimination after winning the prior season is amazing game play. 

he said boring not bad

Then you don't like gameplay. The best gameplay should be boring otherwise you're overplaying.

This is a reality TV show, KVM. If I wanted to watch boring gameplay, I'd watch sports.

Also you can be entertaining and play a good game.

 

 

 

 

CT plays a boring game.

The goal is to win. And manipulating everyone so that you don't see an elimination after winning the prior season is amazing game play. 

he said boring not bad

Then you don't like gameplay. The best gameplay should be boring otherwise you're overplaying.

This is a reality TV show, KVM. If I wanted to watch boring gameplay, I'd watch sports.

Also you can be entertaining and play a good game.

I'm not saying you can't say CT is boring. I'm saying calling his gameplay boring is one of the dumbest things I've read.  You either appreciate gameplay or you don't. The game itself is supposed to be entertaining not just the drama. This is why I'm over Big Brother and heading that way with Survivor.  They've abandoned the concept of the show much like The Challenge did with skulls. 

 

Imagine how much better this season would have been if Hunter was on instead of CT?

Because that would only happen in your imagination.

That's the problem. The same faces come on over and over again and they don't switch up their playstyle. There has to be a solid rotation system put in place. If Hunter was on this cast he was gonna target Ashley right away, and thus there would be no vets alliance(which was CT's idea). Hunter has said his goal is to make Ashley irrelevant by making her the 1st boot on every season. Basically Hunter is a better castmember than CT at this point.

 

 

Imagine how much better this season would have been if Hunter was on instead of CT?

Because that would only happen in your imagination.

That's the problem. The same faces come on over and over again and they don't switch up their playstyle. There has to be a solid rotation system put in place. If Hunter was on this cast he was gonna target Ashley right away, and thus there would be no vets alliance(which was CT's idea). Hunter has said his goal is to make Ashley irrelevant by making her the 1st boot on every season. Basically Hunter is a better castmember than CT at this point.

lol I like Hunter but you're delusional. He would have done what Cory and Nelson told him to do especially after being away for a few seasons. 

The vet alliance is brilliant strategy.  The fact people won't acknowledge that is insane. The rookies, other than a couple, didn't study the game and played horribly. 

 

 

 

 

 

CT plays a boring game.

The goal is to win. And manipulating everyone so that you don't see an elimination after winning the prior season is amazing game play. 

he said boring not bad

Then you don't like gameplay. The best gameplay should be boring otherwise you're overplaying.

This is a reality TV show, KVM. If I wanted to watch boring gameplay, I'd watch sports.

Also you can be entertaining and play a good game.

I'm not saying you can't say CT is boring. I'm saying calling his gameplay boring is one of the dumbest things I've read.  You either appreciate gameplay or you don't. The game itself is supposed to be entertaining not just the drama. This is why I'm over Big Brother and heading that way with Survivor.  They've abandoned the concept of the show much like The Challenge did with skulls. 

but it's HIS opinion, why you do you care so much if he finds it boring? Worked up over an opinion on a Saturday morning 

But let me stop because you got me defending the Devin Stan now lol

 

 

 

Imagine how much better this season would have been if Hunter was on instead of CT?

Because that would only happen in your imagination.

That's the problem. The same faces come on over and over again and they don't switch up their playstyle. There has to be a solid rotation system put in place. If Hunter was on this cast he was gonna target Ashley right away, and thus there would be no vets alliance(which was CT's idea). Hunter has said his goal is to make Ashley irrelevant by making her the 1st boot on every season. Basically Hunter is a better castmember than CT at this point.

lol I like Hunter but you're delusional. He would have done what Cory and Nelson told him to do especially after being away for a few seasons. 

The vet alliance is brilliant strategy.  The fact people won't acknowledge that is insane. The rookies, other than a couple, didn't study the game and played horribly. 

When did I say the vets truce is not a good idea?

What did Hunter do on WOTW? He went for Ashley immediately despite his close friendship with Amanda. And we just saw Cory and Nelson do everything to throw Ashley under the bus by mainly using the point of her betraying their friend. So imagine if their friend was there himself? CT just wants to float, Hunter would be willing to make a bloody move like throwing in Ashley the first chance he had. Think a few more steps ahead next time. 

 

 

 

 

 

CT plays a boring game.

The goal is to win. And manipulating everyone so that you don't see an elimination after winning the prior season is amazing game play. 

he said boring not bad

Then you don't like gameplay. The best gameplay should be boring otherwise you're overplaying.

This is a reality TV show, KVM. If I wanted to watch boring gameplay, I'd watch sports.

Also you can be entertaining and play a good game.

I'm not saying you can't say CT is boring. I'm saying calling his gameplay boring is one of the dumbest things I've read.  You either appreciate gameplay or you don't. The game itself is supposed to be entertaining not just the drama. This is why I'm over Big Brother and heading that way with Survivor.  They've abandoned the concept of the show much like The Challenge did with skulls. 

Idc how good it is for him, sitting back and letting others target each other IS boring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

CT plays a boring game.

The goal is to win. And manipulating everyone so that you don't see an elimination after winning the prior season is amazing game play. 

he said boring not bad

Then you don't like gameplay. The best gameplay should be boring otherwise you're overplaying.

This is a reality TV show, KVM. If I wanted to watch boring gameplay, I'd watch sports.

Also you can be entertaining and play a good game.

I'm not saying you can't say CT is boring. I'm saying calling his gameplay boring is one of the dumbest things I've read.  You either appreciate gameplay or you don't. The game itself is supposed to be entertaining not just the drama. This is why I'm over Big Brother and heading that way with Survivor.  They've abandoned the concept of the show much like The Challenge did with skulls. 

Idc how good it is for him, sitting back and letting others target each other IS boring.

Then you don't appreciate gameplay.  It's that simple. Say you don't like gameplay and there's no discussion.  Gameplay is never boring regardless of the strategy if you like gameplay. 

Also you can be entertaining and play a good game.

I'm not saying you can't say CT is boring. I'm saying calling his gameplay boring is one of the dumbest things I've read.  You either appreciate gameplay or you don't. The game itself is supposed to be entertaining not just the drama. This is why I'm over Big Brother and heading that way with Survivor.  They've abandoned the concept of the show much like The Challenge did with skulls. 

but it's HIS opinion, why you do you care so much if he finds it boring? Worked up over an opinion on a Saturday morning 

Lmaooo literally, man created a problem over nothing

idk why he thinks his opinion is superior or he can tell people how to think and feel lmao.

Good gameplay can be boring.

Bad gameplay can be entertaining.

Good gameplay can be entertaining.

Bad gameplay can be boring. 

He really thinks two truths cant happen at the same time lol.

But kvm, when people say they find good gameplay boring, I think they mean in terms of the entertainment factor, for the show. So even though it's amusing to me to see CT make these guys look like incompetent idiots season after season, I understand why it's not fun for everyone to watch on a weekly basis. 

nany leaked when the reunion will be on her last story

But kvm, when people say they find good gameplay boring, I think they mean in terms of the entertainment factor, for the show. So even though it's amusing to me to see CT make these guys look like incompetent idiots season after season, I understand why it's not fun for everyone to watch on a weekly basis. 

My point is if you find it boring then you're not watching for the game. Even on The Ruins, Evan masterfully ran both teams. People can hate him and say the season itself was boring but his gameplay was not. That doesn't mean the season can't suck but the gameplay itself doesn't.

This season, people can claim the game itself is boring because of how dumb the majority of the cast is while still appreciating the great gameplay by CT.  What he's doing is amazing. Blame those that aren't smart enough to combat his moves not CT 

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