The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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The whole point of the real world in the first place was bringing together people with views that are gonna clash. That's where some of the best tv comes from, don't forget that lol

So we should put racists/homophobes in a house with POC/gay people? Check BB15 for how that went 

i think theres a difference between casting someone who is outright a racist/homophobe versus casting someone who maybe biased/more unaware bc of where/how they grew up....see Julie from the first rw for example where she grew up very sheltered and unaware about issues affecting POC and LGBTQ+ and now is a total activist 

I couldn't care less about any of their political views lol 

Bring me trash tv back not the CBS pg13 shit

Random question: do we know CT's political beliefs? Would make me feel better about him winning if he had good political views lol

i do believe he is one of the very few guys that sides more liberal

 

Random question: do we know CT's political beliefs? Would make me feel better about him winning if he had good political views lol

Define "good political views"...

I really can't stand this nonsense.  There is no good or bad political view

Republican is a bad political view

Why?  Because it's not your view?  Grow up.

im with you in that you cant quantify what is/isnt a good political view, and as far left as i personally am i can awknowledge 99% of our polititions are full of horse shit on both sides, the irony in the entire thing is americas political system in itself with how it has you tricked to think, both parties suck and are abysmal compared to what they once were, sans a few bright sparks here and there

 

The whole point of the real world in the first place was bringing together people with views that are gonna clash. That's where some of the best tv comes from, don't forget that lol

So we should put racists/homophobes in a house with POC/gay people? Check BB15 for how that went 

That's literally what MTV was built on lol

 

 

Random question: do we know CT's political beliefs? Would make me feel better about him winning if he had good political views lol

Define "good political views"...

I really can't stand this nonsense.  There is no good or bad political view

Republican is a bad political view

Why?  Because it's not your view?  Grow up.

im with you in that you cant quantify what is/isnt a good political view, and as far left as i personally am i can awknowledge 99% of our polititions are full of horse shit on both sides, the irony in the entire thing is americas political system in itself with how it has you tricked to think, both parties suck and are abysmal compared to what they once were, sans a few bright sparks here and there

Well said. 

waiting to get confirmation that Nelson won second place

 

The whole point of the real world in the first place was bringing together people with views that are gonna clash. That's where some of the best tv comes from, don't forget that lol

So we should put racists/homophobes in a house with POC/gay people? Check BB15 for how that went 

uh not what I said lol not every person who is a republican is racist. I'm not republican and I know that. If you only surround yourself with people who believe the same things as you then you're basically living in a giant echo chamber. 

 

 

Random question: do we know CT's political beliefs? Would make me feel better about him winning if he had good political views lol

Define "good political views"...

I really can't stand this nonsense.  There is no good or bad political view

Republican is a bad political view

Why?  Because it's not your view?  Grow up.

im with you in that you cant quantify what is/isnt a good political view, and as far left as i personally am i can awknowledge 99% of our polititions are full of horse shit on both sides, the irony in the entire thing is americas political system in itself with how it has you tricked to think, both parties suck and are abysmal compared to what they once were, sans a few bright sparks here and there

Also this 

 

 

The whole point of the real world in the first place was bringing together people with views that are gonna clash. That's where some of the best tv comes from, don't forget that lol

So we should put racists/homophobes in a house with POC/gay people? Check BB15 for how that went 

uh not what I said lol not every person who is a republican is racist. I'm not republican and I know that. If you only surround yourself with people who believe the same things as you then you're basically living in a giant echo chamber. 

Could you imagine RW: Denver being aired in 2021... "I think it's wrong that you are gay" "What if I say I think it's wrong that you are black?" Whew, so many cancellations and expulsions lol 

The whole point of the real world in the first place was bringing together people with views that are gonna clash. That's where some of the best tv comes from, don't forget that lol

So we should put racists/homophobes in a house with POC/gay people? Check BB15 for how that went 

uh not what I said lol not every person who is a republican is racist. I'm not republican and I know that. If you only surround yourself with people who believe the same things as you then you're basically living in a giant echo chamber. 

Could you imagine RW: Denver being aired in 2021... "I think it's wrong that you are gay" "What if I say I think it's wrong that you are black?" Whew, so many cancellations and expulsions lol 

Right?  About half the cast would have been "canceled" from most seasons for little things.  Julie would have been hated after one episode on the first season.  We saw that was just her adjusting to a world that was new to her and that she didn't mean anything by it.

the way i see it in the most laymans terms is "without hate theres no love" meaning you need duality of thought, no liberal would have a viewpoint without conservatives feeling the opposite way, and as much as i disagree with 99.9999% of what conservatives say - i know that as a far left liberal i wouldnt have majority of what i believe in if it werent for the gop acting oppositely.......all politics suck but at the end of the day you need to have discourse on both sides and cant just surround yourselves with those who think the same way you do.....the only ones i personally cant have a convo with are the very far right QAnon/Trump conspiracy theorists who believe the most outlandish things

the way i see it in the most laymans terms is "without hate theres no love" meaning you need duality of thought, no liberal would have a viewpoint without conservatives feeling the opposite way, and as much as i disagree with 99.9999% of what conservatives say - i know that as a far left liberal i wouldnt have majority of what i believe in if it werent for the gop acting oppositely.......all politics suck but at the end of the day you need to have discourse on both sides and cant just surround yourselves with those who think the same way you do.....the only ones i personally cant have a convo with are the very far right QAnon/Trump conspiracy theorists who believe the most outlandish things

whats a far left liberal tho? I dont know any leftists who subscribe to neoliberalism.

 

the way i see it in the most laymans terms is "without hate theres no love" meaning you need duality of thought, no liberal would have a viewpoint without conservatives feeling the opposite way, and as much as i disagree with 99.9999% of what conservatives say - i know that as a far left liberal i wouldnt have majority of what i believe in if it werent for the gop acting oppositely.......all politics suck but at the end of the day you need to have discourse on both sides and cant just surround yourselves with those who think the same way you do.....the only ones i personally cant have a convo with are the very far right QAnon/Trump conspiracy theorists who believe the most outlandish things

whats a far left liberal tho? I dont know any leftists who subscribe to neoliberalism.

id say im more in line with like a european liberal in the sense that most european countries would look at majority of democratic party as being conservatives

So i guess in terms of american politics the closest thing/ what you would probably classify it as being a "Democratic-Socialist" but tbh im not really one for labels, im just an extremely liberal person lmao

 

 

the way i see it in the most laymans terms is "without hate theres no love" meaning you need duality of thought, no liberal would have a viewpoint without conservatives feeling the opposite way, and as much as i disagree with 99.9999% of what conservatives say - i know that as a far left liberal i wouldnt have majority of what i believe in if it werent for the gop acting oppositely.......all politics suck but at the end of the day you need to have discourse on both sides and cant just surround yourselves with those who think the same way you do.....the only ones i personally cant have a convo with are the very far right QAnon/Trump conspiracy theorists who believe the most outlandish things

whats a far left liberal tho? I dont know any leftists who subscribe to neoliberalism.

id say im more in line with like a european liberal in the sense that most european countries would look at majority of democratic party as being conservatives

So i guess in terms of american politics the closest thing/ what you would probably classify it as being a "Democratic-Socialist" but tbh im not really one for labels, im just an extremely liberal person lmao

ah ok, so like a Bernie Sanders kinda cat?

But im weird with politics in the sense that i grew up around a lot of conservatives, both family and friends, so I understand why a lot of conservatives feel the way they do even tho i totally disagree 

id say the big things for me and that i personally care/am very very passionate about are prison/jail reform, health care access, LGBTQ+ rights, social justice action/reform for all POC/indigenous people, weed/other recreational drug legalization (i live in a state where weed is legal and mushrooms are decriminalized personally), access to education 

i mean the list can go on but majority of what i listed is either bc of experiences ive personally had or people im close with have

would love love love to talk politics in PM if anyone is ever interested hit me up (dont wanna clog up this thread too much with political talk lmao)

 

 

 

the way i see it in the most laymans terms is "without hate theres no love" meaning you need duality of thought, no liberal would have a viewpoint without conservatives feeling the opposite way, and as much as i disagree with 99.9999% of what conservatives say - i know that as a far left liberal i wouldnt have majority of what i believe in if it werent for the gop acting oppositely.......all politics suck but at the end of the day you need to have discourse on both sides and cant just surround yourselves with those who think the same way you do.....the only ones i personally cant have a convo with are the very far right QAnon/Trump conspiracy theorists who believe the most outlandish things

whats a far left liberal tho? I dont know any leftists who subscribe to neoliberalism.

id say im more in line with like a european liberal in the sense that most european countries would look at majority of democratic party as being conservatives

So i guess in terms of american politics the closest thing/ what you would probably classify it as being a "Democratic-Socialist" but tbh im not really one for labels, im just an extremely liberal person lmao

ah ok, so like a Bernie Sanders kinda cat?

yeah definitely to an extent, and i guess you could lump AOC in there too, but tbh theres not too many super relevant politicians out rn that i actually like, bernie is definitely one that ill always have a strong soft spot for bc he has always stood for what he believes in and is very rarely one to change that, he was fighting for racial justice and lgbtq rights before most and ill always admire that but in the same token i totally awknowledgeable he is WAY too old to still be in power

huge Jon Osoff fan and really like Raphael Warnock too and excited to see what they'll bring

 

huge Jon Osoff fan and really like Raphael Warnock too and excited to see what they'll bring

ayyee

I think it's possible to be liberal and conservative, at the same time. And there's value in that, for me, at least. Socially, I'm a far left liberal. But, the business and the money side of America, I usually agree more with conservatives. 

 

 

Random question: do we know CT's political beliefs? Would make me feel better about him winning if he had good political views lol

Define "good political views"...

I really can't stand this nonsense.  There is no good or bad political view

Republican is a bad political view

Hard disagree. 2 party system is a terrible political belief. Everyone should be politically fluid and be a moderate libertarian. All right now back to the regularly scheduled programming discussing a  trashy reality tv show lmao... but seriously who gives a shit about anyone especially people on a trashy reality tv beliefs are.

 

I couldn't care less about any of their political views lol 

Bring me trash tv back not the CBS pg13 shit

YES MAAM PINK!!! THIS IS IT!

For whomever asked, Darrell and Shane have said that on Invasion, CT and Darrell were the only ones on the Champs team who weren't for Trump. And Shane said when the invasion happened, that they warned him not to talk about politics with the other Champs because they were sick of hearing that b.s. all day. lol. Veronica has also named CT as one of the people who was not a Trump supporter. 

For whomever asked, Shane said on a podcast that on Invasion, CT and Darrell were the only ones on the Champs team who weren't for Trump. And he said when the invasion happened, that they warned him not to talk about politics with the other Champs because they were sick of hearing that b.s. all day. lol. Veronica has also named CT as one of the people who was not a Trump supporter.

This is why CT is a king <3

This is why im officially a CT stan now.

For whomever asked, Darrell and Shane have said that on Invasion, CT and Darrell were the only ones on the Champs team who weren't for Trump. And Shane said when the invasion happened, that they warned him not to talk about politics with the other Champs because they were sick of hearing that b.s. all day. lol. Veronica has also named CT as one of the people who was not a Trump supporter. 

Wait so Laurel was for Trump? I find it hard to believe tbh

So this 2 partial political system sounds crazy for me . It is like choosing lesser evil .

But then I remembered . That we have multiple political parties but people are always choosing between PiS and PO .

I am pro Woman rights , LGBT+ rights , choice and marihuana legalisation . And we need to reform our penal system . Some people get arrested and wait 7 Years in prison awaiting trial 

white liberals love to put all the blame on conservatives while they step on black brown marginalized bodies every step of the way. wolves in sheep's clothing. loving to hide behind a flawed two party system 

 

For whomever asked, Darrell and Shane have said that on Invasion, CT and Darrell were the only ones on the Champs team who weren't for Trump. And Shane said when the invasion happened, that they warned him not to talk about politics with the other Champs because they were sick of hearing that b.s. all day. lol. Veronica has also named CT as one of the people who was not a Trump supporter. 

Wait so Laurel was for Trump? I find it hard to believe tbh

Why is that hard to believe?  

Let's try and keep politics to a minimum. There are many other boards and social media sites like Twitter to engage in those topics. 

Thanks!

 

~B

Let's try and keep politics to a minimum. There are many other boards and social media sites like Twitter to engage in those topics. 

Thanks!

 

~B

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