Ashley could've went a different route. Call him a fat *** like jessica graf did. I'm sure jessica wanted to call him all types of gay but she refrained from doing so. Same with Devin who just continued to call him an idiot. Josh is very disrespectful and deserves to be disrespected but the gay stuff should be left out of it bc that's a very touchy personal subject.
When Jess called him fat (which would also insult "fat" people) did it make him stop treating people poorly? Nothing is off topic when you attack someone. NOTHING. The only possible thing would be a deceased family member.
see but that's a rule that you follow. It's not a set rule that anything goes when you start the problem with me. Some people may find that self control should always be the rule you follow and never let anyone push you too far or they go with your mindset of just react until they leave you alone. Especially with a production team that now wants to be very PC and have admitted to have a favorite who happens to provoke and never get in trouble.
It's not about self control--if you attack me I'll find your biggest insecurity and try to destroy you. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
Whatever I'm over this. Regardless if Ashley comes back or not, i hope she didn't say anything that was offensive to a community or exposed his sexuality outright. And for Josh, i hope for a future where production finds a new favorite. I've been over him.
Ashley could've went a different route. Call him a fat *** like jessica graf did. I'm sure jessica wanted to call him all types of gay but she refrained from doing so. Same with Devin who just continued to call him an idiot. Josh is very disrespectful and deserves to be disrespected but the gay stuff should be left out of it bc that's a very touchy personal subject.
When Jess called him fat (which would also insult "fat" people) did it make him stop treating people poorly? Nothing is off topic when you attack someone. NOTHING. The only possible thing would be a deceased family member.
see but that's a rule that you follow. It's not a set rule that anything goes when you start the problem with me. Some people may find that self control should always be the rule you follow and never let anyone push you too far or they go with your mindset of just react until they leave you alone. Especially with a production team that now wants to be very PC and have admitted to have a favorite who happens to provoke and never get in trouble.
It's not about self control--if you attack me I'll find your biggest insecurity and try to destroy you. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
Ashley could've went a different route. Call him a fat *** like jessica graf did. I'm sure jessica wanted to call him all types of gay but she refrained from doing so. Same with Devin who just continued to call him an idiot. Josh is very disrespectful and deserves to be disrespected but the gay stuff should be left out of it bc that's a very touchy personal subject.
When Jess called him fat (which would also insult "fat" people) did it make him stop treating people poorly? Nothing is off topic when you attack someone. NOTHING. The only possible thing would be a deceased family member.
Well I disagree. Race/Ethnicity and sexuality should be off the table. Period.
I don't understand why sexuality would be off the table. There's a difference if you're gay and someone attacks you for being gay. Say Ashley was fighting with Shane or Frank and she attacked them for being gay--that's unacceptable. Josh supposedly isn't gay--saying she thinks he's gay shouldn't be an issue. Again, see Landon laughing about it when people said that about him.
Ashley could've went a different route. Call him a fat ass like jessica graf did. I'm sure jessica wanted to call him all types of gay but she refrained from doing so. Same with Devin who just continued to call him an idiot. Josh is very disrespectful and deserves to be disrespected but the gay stuff should be left out of it bc that's a very touchy personal subject.
When Jess called him fat (which would also insult "fat" people) did it make him stop treating people poorly? Nothing is off topic when you attack someone. NOTHING. The only possible thing would be a deceased family member.
I think sexual orientation and race should be off limits but that's just me.
Race yes--that never acceptable. See Camila
But not sexual orientation unless you say it in an attacking way not just that she thinks you're gay.
Until this day Idk why Camila went off on Leroy he wasn't doing shit to her
If someone is constantly harrassing and disrespecting me in a place where I have no where to run to to leave the situation, I'm going to say something that'll get the person off me as fast as possible, and hopefully permanately. So if he was poking that hard at Ashley, I don't have a problem with what she said.
This kinda reminds me of that Devin and Johnny fight on FR they both went dirty and low now what makes this Ashley & Josh situation different
imo Johnny making that comment about devin's dad was personal, so fair play. But ashley being homophobic (if she was) to josh isn't personal, it's about how she sees gay people
No disrespect, but i think it just goes to show who has ever been in an argument/fight in their lives, cause like personally if someone disrespects me enough i go below the belt and pick apart insecurities ya didnt know ya had (also could be a geographical thing as well cause i know my fellow NY'ers/northeast people be acting the same)
Using racial and homophobic slurs too? Probably not but just trying to show the flaw on "I'll bring up anything in a fight". Jersey here and def been in my fair share but those two things I'll stay away from.
Ashley could've went a different route. Call him a fat *** like jessica graf did. I'm sure jessica wanted to call him all types of gay but she refrained from doing so. Same with Devin who just continued to call him an idiot. Josh is very disrespectful and deserves to be disrespected but the gay stuff should be left out of it bc that's a very touchy personal subject.
When Jess called him fat (which would also insult "fat" people) did it make him stop treating people poorly? Nothing is off topic when you attack someone. NOTHING. The only possible thing would be a deceased family member.
Well I disagree. Race/Ethnicity and sexuality should be off the table. Period.
I don't understand why sexuality would be off the table. There's a difference if you're gay and someone attacks you for being gay. Say Ashley was fighting with Shane or Frank and she attacked them for being gay--that's unacceptable. Josh supposedly isn't gay--saying she thinks he's gay shouldn't be an issue. Again, see Landon laughing about it when people said that about him.
As a straight man you see things differently. Kids are out here ending their lives for being outted.
No disrespect, but i think it just goes to show who has ever been in an argument/fight in their lives, cause like personally if someone disrespects me enough i go below the belt and pick apart insecurities ya didnt know ya had (also could be a geographical thing as well cause i know my fellow NY'ers/northeast people be acting the same)
Using racial and homophobic slurs too? Probably not but just trying to show the flaw on "I'll bring up anything in a fight". Jersey here and def been in my fair share but those two things I'll stay away from.
idk if u saw my other posts too and its my bad cause i meant to say it in this post too so ill just say it here no racial slurs are never never ever cool and using derogatory/inflammatory language isnt either (i.e. f slur, r word and other stuff like that towards any marginalized or underrepresented group)
edit: also gooo jersey! Lot of my family from there too and i spent a good portion of my life there until living in NYC/the bronx and boy do i miss the east coast sometimes
It's not about self control--if you attack me I'll find your biggest insecurity and try to destroy you. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
Imagine just waking up and listening to Josh poking you and poking you. You're going to have a reaction some point.
Whatever I'm over this. Regardless if Ashley comes back or not, i hope she didn't say anything that was offensive to a community or exposed his sexuality outright. And for Josh, i hope for a future where production finds a new favorite. I've been over him.
See Josh would've got drenched in juice playing in my face
I don't understand why sexuality would be off the table. There's a difference if you're gay and someone attacks you for being gay. Say Ashley was fighting with Shane or Frank and she attacked them for being gay--that's unacceptable. Josh supposedly isn't gay--saying she thinks he's gay shouldn't be an issue. Again, see Landon laughing about it when people said that about him.
Until this day Idk why Camila went off on Leroy he wasn't doing shit to her
... nvm
This--I'm still shocked Mark didn't kill him on Big Brother.
Carlos Garcia can replace Josh as there Latino rep
Same--wasn't it something insane like he was doing hypotheticals like "he has to go" "she has to go" and Camila assumed she was the "she".
Cody on BB19 was so close to murdering Josh, you could see it in that guy's eyes.
If someone is constantly harrassing and disrespecting me in a place where I have no where to run to to leave the situation, I'm going to say something that'll get the person off me as fast as possible, and hopefully permanately. So if he was poking that hard at Ashley, I don't have a problem with what she said.
This kinda reminds me of that Devin and Johnny fight on FR they both went dirty and low now what makes this Ashley & Josh situation different
id rather he get beat up but that's just me
He has a punchable face
I was told it was bad
I have not seen Josh training at all for his boxing match....
must be hard defending yalls problematic faves all the time. Everyone I love is so pure.
Same here.
oh-
imo Johnny making that comment about devin's dad was personal, so fair play. But ashley being homophobic (if she was) to josh isn't personal, it's about how she sees gay people
Using racial and homophobic slurs too? Probably not but just trying to show the flaw on "I'll bring up anything in a fight". Jersey here and def been in my fair share but those two things I'll stay away from.
While I think Josh loves instigating and shit. I also think Ashley has been on TV and Twitter way to long to know which line not to cross.
These mental gymnastics lol
As a straight man you see things differently. Kids are out here ending their lives for being outted.
yea that's true, at the same time if the same person is coming at you, you're going to explode ( not saying what she said to Josh was right )
idk if u saw my other posts too and its my bad cause i meant to say it in this post too so ill just say it here no racial slurs are never never ever cool and using derogatory/inflammatory language isnt either (i.e. f slur, r word and other stuff like that towards any marginalized or underrepresented group)
edit: also gooo jersey! Lot of my family from there too and i spent a good portion of my life there until living in NYC/the bronx and boy do i miss the east coast sometimes
she also has a lot of gay fans which is stupid on her part and says a lot about her.
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