Ashley could've went a different route. Call him a fat *** like jessica graf did. I'm sure jessica wanted to call him all types of gay but she refrained from doing so. Same with Devin who just continued to call him an idiot. Josh is very disrespectful and deserves to be disrespected but the gay stuff should be left out of it bc that's a very touchy personal subject.
When Jess called him fat (which would also insult "fat" people) did it make him stop treating people poorly? Nothing is off topic when you attack someone. NOTHING. The only possible thing would be a deceased family member.
Well I disagree. Race/Ethnicity and sexuality should be off the table. Period.
I don't understand why sexuality would be off the table. There's a difference if you're gay and someone attacks you for being gay. Say Ashley was fighting with Shane or Frank and she attacked them for being gay--that's unacceptable. Josh supposedly isn't gay--saying she thinks he's gay shouldn't be an issue. Again, see Landon laughing about it when people said that about him.
As a straight man you see things differently. Kids are out here ending their lives for being outted.
IMO as a gay man its a fine grey line between Ashley simply saying something like "we all know your gay" in a way people used to say with landon and stuff towards being outwardly offensive and calling him a f- aggot and if she crossed that line and went to a point where she made it seem like being gay is a bad thing, then totally not cool. BUT if it was more a "its 2021 its okay josh no one cares that you like dudes" thats way different
regardless, very curious to see how this gets edited to the fans when neither Josh or Ashley are well liked towards casual fans (i.e the main viewers)
Ashley could've went a different route. Call him a fat *** like jessica graf did. I'm sure jessica wanted to call him all types of gay but she refrained from doing so. Same with Devin who just continued to call him an idiot. Josh is very disrespectful and deserves to be disrespected but the gay stuff should be left out of it bc that's a very touchy personal subject.
When Jess called him fat (which would also insult "fat" people) did it make him stop treating people poorly? Nothing is off topic when you attack someone. NOTHING. The only possible thing would be a deceased family member.
Well I disagree. Race/Ethnicity and sexuality should be off the table. Period.
I don't understand why sexuality would be off the table. There's a difference if you're gay and someone attacks you for being gay. Say Ashley was fighting with Shane or Frank and she attacked them for being gay--that's unacceptable. Josh supposedly isn't gay--saying she thinks he's gay shouldn't be an issue. Again, see Landon laughing about it when people said that about him.
As a straight man you see things differently. Kids are out here ending their lives for being outted.
What does that have to do with Josh and Ashley?
Regardless of what he says there's a chance he just hasn't come out yet and her forcing that on him in front of everyone/TV would make most closet cases very very uncomfortable. You may not see this as you've never had to deal with that situation.
Ashley could've went a different route. Call him a fat *** like jessica graf did. I'm sure jessica wanted to call him all types of gay but she refrained from doing so. Same with Devin who just continued to call him an idiot. Josh is very disrespectful and deserves to be disrespected but the gay stuff should be left out of it bc that's a very touchy personal subject.
While I think Josh loves instigating and shit. I also think Ashley has been on TV and Twitter way to long to know which line not to cross.
Do you agree with them sending Ashley home?
idk the exact verbatim that she used so I can't say if I agree or disagree. All that I know is that it went too far and he was left crying over whatever she told him.
While I think Josh loves instigating and shit. I also think Ashley has been on TV and Twitter way to long to know which line not to cross.
Do you agree with them sending Ashley home?
idk the exact verbatim that she used so I can't say if I agree or disagree. All that I know is that it went too far and he was left crying over whatever she told him.
They probably gonna wait and see how the fans react to the comments. I see them telling her to take a few off and get her mind back on track and then have her come back for maybe season 40 or 41
The one thing they can not do is Camila/Dee the situation and ghost edit Ashley out of the show, that would be a disaster and completely ruin the season
if tj had to make a statement and theres a PSA, ashley is 100% done.
Hope she is. It's pretty clear that she said something that made being gay sound like a bad thing, I'll believe this until I hear what she said but if it was bad like PR heard? And if TJ has to do a talk with them? She went for a low blow obviously, it sounds worse than "everyone knows you're gay", and she probably tried making him feel like shit for being gay (if he was/is). Someone in the closet or out of the closet shouldn't be made to feel that way, and if people defend Ashley if it was something like that then they obviously don't know the kinds of homophobia there are.
Mind you, I can't stand Josh. But as a gay man, the fact that people could defend Ashley is gross.
I think some of them need force breaks people like Josh, Nany and even Amber B shouldn't be doing 10 shows in a row their mental health isn't necessarily the strongest when they do some many shows in a row
Ashley should have several dollars in the bank, she's been on several tv shows, now she can just live her good life in peace. Plus her story was getting a little played out for me.. losing Ashley isn't an issue.. it's the Josh favortism and enabling that is frustrating.. he's getting no reprucussions or punishements and will continue this "act" unbothered.
This whole situation kind of reminds me of the RHOA reunion when Porsha dragged the hell out of Kenya. Nobody agreed with Porsha doing it but they had no sympathy for Kenya because she stayed provoking people. The only difference here is that for whatever reason, Josh is well liked but most people love Ashley too. It will be interesting to see what side the other players take on social media when this airs. My guess is that they will try to stay neutral for the most part and say they can see both sides. And Ashley will probably go on an apology tour, regardless of how she really feels.
I think some of them need force breaks people like Josh, Nany and even Amber B shouldn't be doing 10 shows in a row their mental health isn't necessarily the strongest when they do some many shows in a row
THIS! And shout out to cast members like Kam, hell even Wes, who dont do every single season and know when to step back
I think some of them need force breaks people like Josh, Nany and even Amber B shouldn't be doing 10 shows in a row their mental health isn't necessarily the strongest when they do some many shows in a row
lmaoooo now why you throw my sister in there this is her second season lol
This whole situation kind of reminds me of the RHOA reunion when Porsha dragged the hell out of Kenya. Nobody agreed with Porsha doing it but they had no sympathy for Kenya because she stayed provoking people. The only difference here is that for whatever reason, Josh is well liked but most people love Ashley too. It will be interesting to see what side the other players take on social media when this airs. My guess is that they will try to stay neutral for the most part and say they can see both sides. And Ashley will probably go on an apology tour, regardless of how she really feels.
Was that dragging homophobic or racist? I don't watch the show.
Do you agree with them sending Ashley home?
Im sure those yt gays will be unphased just like people on this board/on socials lol
What does that have to do with Josh and Ashley?
IMO as a gay man its a fine grey line between Ashley simply saying something like "we all know your gay" in a way people used to say with landon and stuff towards being outwardly offensive and calling him a f- aggot and if she crossed that line and went to a point where she made it seem like being gay is a bad thing, then totally not cool. BUT if it was more a "its 2021 its okay josh no one cares that you like dudes" thats way different
regardless, very curious to see how this gets edited to the fans when neither Josh or Ashley are well liked towards casual fans (i.e the main viewers)
oh they definitely editing alot of that out we won't see shit
Yeah Ashley is done......they definitely starting that episode off with a PSA and I won't be surprised if she isn't at that reunion
And you know they're gonna put a hotline phone number at the end of the episode as well
Lets go back to talking about how Devin is such a hot commodity this season. Lets goooo!
Regardless of what he says there's a chance he just hasn't come out yet and her forcing that on him in front of everyone/TV would make most closet cases very very uncomfortable. You may not see this as you've never had to deal with that situation.
This.
idk the exact verbatim that she used so I can't say if I agree or disagree. All that I know is that it went too far and he was left crying over whatever she told him.
did it seem like Ashley cared?
To play devils advocate, josh does also cry over every little thing, so i guess at this point only time will tell
if tj had to make a statement and theres a PSA, ashley is 100% done.
I think they'll give her a few seasons off and come back later on. She's one of the few regulars I actually like :(((((
she definitely slayed him sorry
They probably gonna wait and see how the fans react to the comments. I see them telling her to take a few off and get her mind back on track and then have her come back for maybe season 40 or 41
* screams like Georgia *
Ashley is finally outta here yesssssssssssssssssssssss
The one thing they can not do is Camila/Dee the situation and ghost edit Ashley out of the show, that would be a disaster and completely ruin the season
Hope she is. It's pretty clear that she said something that made being gay sound like a bad thing, I'll believe this until I hear what she said but if it was bad like PR heard? And if TJ has to do a talk with them? She went for a low blow obviously, it sounds worse than "everyone knows you're gay", and she probably tried making him feel like shit for being gay (if he was/is). Someone in the closet or out of the closet shouldn't be made to feel that way, and if people defend Ashley if it was something like that then they obviously don't know the kinds of homophobia there are.
Mind you, I can't stand Josh. But as a gay man, the fact that people could defend Ashley is gross.
she will be back for 40 and then win
I think some of them need force breaks people like Josh, Nany and even Amber B shouldn't be doing 10 shows in a row their mental health isn't necessarily the strongest when they do some many shows in a row
Ashley should have several dollars in the bank, she's been on several tv shows, now she can just live her good life in peace. Plus her story was getting a little played out for me.. losing Ashley isn't an issue.. it's the Josh favortism and enabling that is frustrating.. he's getting no reprucussions or punishements and will continue this "act" unbothered.
And she got the boot, won't be back anytime soon, and is gonna look like a piece of trash on National tv.. again. Sorry.
This whole situation kind of reminds me of the RHOA reunion when Porsha dragged the hell out of Kenya. Nobody agreed with Porsha doing it but they had no sympathy for Kenya because she stayed provoking people. The only difference here is that for whatever reason, Josh is well liked but most people love Ashley too. It will be interesting to see what side the other players take on social media when this airs. My guess is that they will try to stay neutral for the most part and say they can see both sides. And Ashley will probably go on an apology tour, regardless of how she really feels.
THIS! And shout out to cast members like Kam, hell even Wes, who dont do every single season and know when to step back
Yall should be thanking Josh for getting rid of the witch yall call Ashley Mitchell
lmaoooo now why you throw my sister in there this is her second season lol
Was that dragging homophobic or racist? I don't watch the show.
MTV really is going drop her huh :(((
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