some of you straight people on here need to shut the heII up when it comes to talking about outing and other sexualities in general. You have ZERO struggle in life when it comes to sexual orientation and things reguarding love life. You do not have to come out or think about how people can change their opinion and views on you over a label and who you love. Please stop.
They should air anything and everything, no matter how horrible. That's what reality tv is supposed to be. It's supposed to help us also learn and grow by watching other people's mistakes, trials, and growth.
some of you straight people on here need to shut the heII up when it comes to talking about outing and other sexualities in general. You have ZERO struggle in life when it comes to sexual orientation and things reguarding love life. You do not have to come out or think about how people can change their opinion and views on you over a label and who you love. Please stop.
some of you straight people on here need to shut the heII up when it comes to talking about outing and other sexualities in general. You have ZERO struggle in life when it comes to sexual orientation and things reguarding love life. You do not have to come out or think about how people can change their opinion and views on you over a label and who you love. Please stop.
Does Josh respect other people? Yes or no?
Does it matter??? Idc if someone is rude to you, you can be disrespectful in MANY other ways than outing someone or coming for their sexuality. Do you think it's okay to out someone kvm? yes or no?
some of you straight people on here need to shut the heII up when it comes to talking about outing and other sexualities in general. You have ZERO struggle in life when it comes to sexual orientation and things reguarding love life. You do not have to come out or think about how people can change their opinion and views on you over a label and who you love. Please stop.
Does Josh respect other people? Yes or no?
Does it matter??? Idc if someone is rude to you, you can be disrespectful in MANY other ways than outing someone or coming for their sexuality. Do you think it's okay to out someone kvm? yes or no?
I think when you attack someone verbally they have the right to say anything they want in response. Don't attack others if you aren't able to handle anything that might be said back to you. So, yes, it matters.
some of you straight people on here need to shut the heII up when it comes to talking about outing and other sexualities in general. You have ZERO struggle in life when it comes to sexual orientation and things reguarding love life. You do not have to come out or think about how people can change their opinion and views on you over a label and who you love. Please stop.
Does Josh respect other people? Yes or no?
Does it matter??? Idc if someone is rude to you, you can be disrespectful in MANY other ways than outing someone or coming for their sexuality. Do you think it's okay to out someone kvm? yes or no?
I think when you attack someone verbally they have the right to say anything they want in response. Don't attack others if you aren't able to handle anything that might be said back to you. So, yes, it matters.
Regardless of Josh's sexuality I still think it's not ok for her to lowkey out him or at least call him whatever she did on TV. Hes annoying but I don't think anyone should be outed on TV especially if maybe he's not even comfortable with his sexuality.
Josh has no respect for anyone else--why should anyone be concerned about respecting him?
Respect someone's sexuality always. If you know the struggle people genuinely go through in life over their sexuality you would realise how serious it can actually be... learn to shut up on here
If someone treates you poorly you don't need to respect anything about them. You can disagree all you want but if you want to be treated with respect then treat others with respect.
yeah im agreeing with KVM here too, josh has shown a clear pattern that he thinks he can just instigate fights with people and have no reprocautions, so unless ashley was telling him to go kill himself and aggressively called and told him hes a f -aggot i dont feel bad at all and im lowkey surprised it took until now for someone to say something like that to josh
some of you straight people on here need to shut the heII up when it comes to talking about outing and other sexualities in general. You have ZERO struggle in life when it comes to sexual orientation and things reguarding love life. You do not have to come out or think about how people can change their opinion and views on you over a label and who you love. Please stop.
Does Josh respect other people? Yes or no?
Does it matter??? Idc if someone is rude to you, you can be disrespectful in MANY other ways than outing someone or coming for their sexuality. Do you think it's okay to out someone kvm? yes or no?
I think when you attack someone verbally they have the right to say anything they want in response. Don't attack others if you aren't able to handle anything that might be said back to you. So, yes, it matters.
So Josh could have said Ashley's hair is ugly and she looks like a 60 year old smoker but she can go ahead and say he's gay and ugly because he's brown and other racist/homophobic comments just because he disrespected her? Come on your supposed to be the "grown" one here.
What y'all tend to forget is there are no rules when it comes to fighting & arguing. If you're like Josh, constantly running off at the mouth, and talking YOUR shit , you cannot be upset when someone talks their shit back no matter how low they go.
This is actually a very tricky situation for MTV to be honest. They could just take the Turbo route and say it was because she was having a meltdown and she was a threat. They could also do what they should've done with Camila and remove her for using derogatory terms at another person period. But if they address it as strictly a thing regarding his sexuality, then MTV basically confirms anything Ashley may have said about him by having her removed. I agree that outing someone isn't okay but MTV also is not doing Josh any favors by removing her for those possible reasons and even bringing in TJ and using verbiage that could be about that. Let's see how MTV handles this cause we all know they will find a way to fumble it.
So Josh could have said Ashley's hair is ugly and she looks like a 60 year old smoker but she can go ahead and say he's gay and ugly because he's brown and other racist/homophobic comments just because he disrespected her? Come on your supposed to be the "grown" one here.
She's responsible for anything racist she may have said and she could have crossed the line with words or insults the gay community. But she has every right to tell him to attack him if she attacked him. Don't start a fight if you aren't prepared. We know Ashley has no filter. Like I said, if she said something along the lines of Irene/Stephen then she did nothing wrong.
And I dislike Ashley so this isn't about defending her.
What y'all tend to forget is there are no rules when it comes to fighting & arguing. If you're like Josh, constantly running off at the mouth, and talking YOUR shit , you cannot be upset when someone talks their shit back no matter how low they go.
Your forgetting their on national TV and now she's fumbled her bag.
What y'all tend to forget is there are no rules when it comes to fighting & arguing. If you're like Josh, constantly running off at the mouth, and talking YOUR shit , you cannot be upset when someone talks their shit back no matter how low they go.
This is actually a very tricky situation for MTV to be honest. They could just take the Turbo route and say it was because she was having a meltdown and she was a threat. They could also do what they should've done with Camila and remove her for using derogatory terms at another person period. But if they address it as strictly a thing regarding his sexuality, then MTV basically confirms anything Ashley may have said about him by having her removed. I agree that outing someone isn't okay but MTV also is not doing Josh any favors by removing her for those possible reasons and even bringing in TJ and using verbiage that could be about that. Let's see how MTV handles this cause we all know they will find a way to fumble it.
Also like not for nothing, Josh shouldn't continuously put himself on national TV and act the way he does arguing with everyone and anything, without expecting some blacklash
Honest question: if Josh isn't gay (which he has said numerous times that he isn't so we should assume he is straight) shouldn't it not be a big deal if Ashley called him gay? Unless she meant it as an insult or as a bad thing, I don't think it's a big deal?
Also like not for nothing, Josh shouldn't continuously put himself on national TV and act the way he does arguing with everyone and anything, without expecting some blacklash
Ok but his backlash should be Devin trolling him and calling him a ***** and other type things backlash can't be calling him gay (when he may still be in the closet) or anything else outwardly racist/homophobic.
I see no problem with Ashley saying something like "we all know youre into dudes" or something along those lines, cause like KVM said everyone used to do that to Landon back in the day and landon embraced it, laughed it off bc he was secure enough with himself to know it wasnt true. And like this is a reality tv show, im sick of people getting so **** soft. Like unless you are outwardly racist, or discriminatory towards any marginalized group, be as messy as you want
Honest question: if Josh isn't gay (which he has said numerous times that he isn't so we should assume he is straight) shouldn't it not be a big deal if Ashley called him gay? Unless she meant it as an insult or as a bad thing, I don't think it's a big deal?
is it even confirmed that she even mentioned something around his sexuality?
Also like not for nothing, Josh shouldn't continuously put himself on national TV and act the way he does arguing with everyone and anything, without expecting some blacklash
Ok but his backlash should be Devin trolling him and calling him a ***** and other type things backlash can't be calling him gay (when he may still be in the closet) or anything else outwardly racist/homophobic.
Why? If Ashley wants to call him out for being gay or saying that everyone thinks he's gay then she should go for it. He has no respect NONE for other people. If she said it as being gay is a "bad thing" then that's homophobic and a different issue but she's allowed to say that everyone thinks he's gay. Let's not pretend that's the first time it's been said.
Also like not for nothing, Josh shouldn't continuously put himself on national TV and act the way he does arguing with everyone and anything, without expecting some blacklash
Ok but his backlash should be Devin trolling him and calling him a ***** and other type things backlash can't be calling him gay (when he may still be in the closet) or anything else outwardly racist/homophobic.
PR already confirmed weeks ago Ash never said anything racist, and as a gay male myself ashley saying something like "we all know youre into dudes" is really not homophobic at all and is WAYYYY different than calling him the f slur (which pretty sure PR also said ashley didnt do) and if that were the case and ashley said that then yeah TOTALLY not cool and totally homophobic
respectfully no ones paying for that
Josh is not gay fullstop.
some of you straight people on here need to shut the heII up when it comes to talking about outing and other sexualities in general. You have ZERO struggle in life when it comes to sexual orientation and things reguarding love life. You do not have to come out or think about how people can change their opinion and views on you over a label and who you love. Please stop.
One day these people will learn to say no to those calls from time to time to help their mental health
They should air anything and everything, no matter how horrible. That's what reality tv is supposed to be. It's supposed to help us also learn and grow by watching other people's mistakes, trials, and growth.
Does Josh respect other people? Yes or no?
Does it matter??? Idc if someone is rude to you, you can be disrespectful in MANY other ways than outing someone or coming for their sexuality. Do you think it's okay to out someone kvm? yes or no?
I think when you attack someone verbally they have the right to say anything they want in response. Don't attack others if you aren't able to handle anything that might be said back to you. So, yes, it matters.
EXACTLY preach kvm
yeah im agreeing with KVM here too, josh has shown a clear pattern that he thinks he can just instigate fights with people and have no reprocautions, so unless ashley was telling him to go kill himself and aggressively called and told him hes a f -aggot i dont feel bad at all and im lowkey surprised it took until now for someone to say something like that to josh
MTV has gotten too soft and afraid of controversy. It's ruined the show.
So Josh could have said Ashley's hair is ugly and she looks like a 60 year old smoker but she can go ahead and say he's gay and ugly because he's brown and other racist/homophobic comments just because he disrespected her? Come on your supposed to be the "grown" one here.
What y'all tend to forget is there are no rules when it comes to fighting & arguing. If you're like Josh, constantly running off at the mouth, and talking YOUR shit , you cannot be upset when someone talks their shit back no matter how low they go.
Call MTV what you want but certain controversies (especially racial/homophobic) could lose sponsors and $$$ at the end of the day.
This is actually a very tricky situation for MTV to be honest. They could just take the Turbo route and say it was because she was having a meltdown and she was a threat. They could also do what they should've done with Camila and remove her for using derogatory terms at another person period. But if they address it as strictly a thing regarding his sexuality, then MTV basically confirms anything Ashley may have said about him by having her removed. I agree that outing someone isn't okay but MTV also is not doing Josh any favors by removing her for those possible reasons and even bringing in TJ and using verbiage that could be about that. Let's see how MTV handles this cause we all know they will find a way to fumble it.
She's responsible for anything racist she may have said and she could have crossed the line with words or insults the gay community. But she has every right to tell him to attack him if she attacked him. Don't start a fight if you aren't prepared. We know Ashley has no filter. Like I said, if she said something along the lines of Irene/Stephen then she did nothing wrong.
And I dislike Ashley so this isn't about defending her.
Your forgetting their on national TV and now she's fumbled her bag.
5 years down the road this show is going to be nothing but a bunch of Kaycee's and Jenny's and Nam's zzzzz
Also like not for nothing, Josh shouldn't continuously put himself on national TV and act the way he does arguing with everyone and anything, without expecting some blacklash
Honest question: if Josh isn't gay (which he has said numerous times that he isn't so we should assume he is straight) shouldn't it not be a big deal if Ashley called him gay? Unless she meant it as an insult or as a bad thing, I don't think it's a big deal?
Ok but his backlash should be Devin trolling him and calling him a ***** and other type things backlash can't be calling him gay (when he may still be in the closet) or anything else outwardly racist/homophobic.
I still cant get over Skye saying that "give it a few more seasons and people will come round on Josh" ....a few more seasons... how about **** that
I see no problem with Ashley saying something like "we all know youre into dudes" or something along those lines, cause like KVM said everyone used to do that to Landon back in the day and landon embraced it, laughed it off bc he was secure enough with himself to know it wasnt true. And like this is a reality tv show, im sick of people getting so **** soft. Like unless you are outwardly racist, or discriminatory towards any marginalized group, be as messy as you want
is it even confirmed that she even mentioned something around his sexuality?
Why? If Ashley wants to call him out for being gay or saying that everyone thinks he's gay then she should go for it. He has no respect NONE for other people. If she said it as being gay is a "bad thing" then that's homophobic and a different issue but she's allowed to say that everyone thinks he's gay. Let's not pretend that's the first time it's been said.
PR already confirmed weeks ago Ash never said anything racist, and as a gay male myself ashley saying something like "we all know youre into dudes" is really not homophobic at all and is WAYYYY different than calling him the f slur (which pretty sure PR also said ashley didnt do) and if that were the case and ashley said that then yeah TOTALLY not cool and totally homophobic
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