Based on PR & Gamer it's clear she said something like "we all know your gay". I hope they don't give her the Dee treatment and ruin the story this season. I have an issue with this because they want so bad for Escort to be the face of the show and ignore her using the f word. Ashley didn't say it was negative or bad to be gay. So now the presedence has been set that any lie/accusation you make on someone you will have to be removed for. Absolutely ridiculous. I hate these fake producers who stereotype gays all the time sit here and pretend they are so woke.
How do we know she didn't say it like it's a bad thing though? I dont hate Ashley, but she's not an angel. Especially when she drinks or is seeing red. Tori didn't call someone a f**, she used the word like soooo many people used to. I'm gay, and I'd defend even someone I hate in this context.
Uneducated? Sure. Ignorant? **** yes. But not homophobic. Ashley should know better but like I said, she gets unpredictable at times.
We're talking about people finding tweets for a decade ago and not comprehending that an 18 year old or anyone really wouldn't have seen that as problematic at the time. Think 2012 vs 2020. People just want to be offended.
it's a difference if you was 17-18 at the time a tweet came out of you saying something offensive ( if it doesn't apply to you, don't speak on it ) but someone who is 23-24 putting those tweets out isn't ok. To be honest there's no excuse for either at all
I don't care what anyone said on social media in 2012 if that was accepted then but isn't now. You can't hold someone's past comments to today's standard.
We're talking about people finding tweets for a decade ago and not comprehending that an 18 year old or anyone really wouldn't have seen that as problematic at the time. Think 2012 vs 2020. People just want to be offended.
it's a difference if you was 17-18 at the time a tweet came out of you saying something offensive ( if it doesn't apply to you, don't speak on it ) but someone who is 23-24 putting those tweets out isn't ok. To be honest there's no excuse for either at all
I don't care what anyone said on social media in 2012 if that was accepted then but isn't now. You can't hold someone's past comments to today's standard.
We're talking about people finding tweets for a decade ago and not comprehending that an 18 year old or anyone really wouldn't have seen that as problematic at the time. Think 2012 vs 2020. People just want to be offended.
it's a difference if you was 17-18 at the time a tweet came out of you saying something offensive ( if it doesn't apply to you, don't speak on it ) but someone who is 23-24 putting those tweets out isn't ok. To be honest there's no excuse for either at all
I don't care what anyone said on social media in 2012 if that was accepted then but isn't now. You can't hold someone's past comments to today's standard.
Based on PR & Gamer it's clear she said something like "we all know your gay". I hope they don't give her the Dee treatment and ruin the story this season. I have an issue with this because they want so bad for Escort to be the face of the show and ignore her using the f word. Ashley didn't say it was negative or bad to be gay. So now the presedence has been set that any lie/accusation you make on someone you will have to be removed for. Absolutely ridiculous. I hate these fake producers who stereotype gays all the time sit here and pretend they are so woke.
How do we know she didn't say it like it's a bad thing though? I dont hate Ashley, but she's not an angel. Especially when she drinks or is seeing red. Tori didn't call someone a f**, she used the word like soooo many people used to. I'm gay, and I'd defend even someone I hate in this context.
Agreed. We will have to see it play out but it likely won't. I'm sure someone will spill the details. When people are angry enough they say whatever will cut the deepest or hurt the most. It might not be an indication of how they truly feel. This is why I'm so anti cancel culture. Not every bad comment makes you a bad person. I gotta find out exactly what/how it went down and how Ashley responds.
I just hope this whole situation isn't rooted in the idea that Josh might be gay bc it would all be counterintuitive. Hopefully this is just a zero tolerance standard now being enforced
What if Ashley did say "we all know youre gay, just say it?" Like what next? Everyone's jaws drop bc Ashley just addressed the elephant in the room? A bunch of *gasps* and confessionals on Ashley ******* up and people defending Josh? That would be kind of awkward imo b/c now there's this big moment insinuating that Ashley just outed someone, even thought Josh hasn't given any reason for people to think he's in the closet aside from his mannerisms. With Natalie, she had kissed Veronica in the house and had a girlfriend.
Like what would the reaction be if Joss was on and Ashley started arguing with him and said "we all know you and Rogan are gay and dating, just say it"?
We're talking about people finding tweets for a decade ago and not comprehending that an 18 year old or anyone really wouldn't have seen that as problematic at the time. Think 2012 vs 2020. People just want to be offended.
it's a difference if you was 17-18 at the time a tweet came out of you saying something offensive ( if it doesn't apply to you, don't speak on it ) but someone who is 23-24 putting those tweets out isn't ok. To be honest there's no excuse for either at all
I don't care what anyone said on social media in 2012 if that was accepted then but isn't now. You can't hold someone's past comments to today's standard.
depending on the comment, you sure can
You absolutely can't. That's the problem here. The standard at the time is all that matters.
Based on PR & Gamer it's clear she said something like "we all know your gay". I hope they don't give her the Dee treatment and ruin the story this season. I have an issue with this because they want so bad for Escort to be the face of the show and ignore her using the f word. Ashley didn't say it was negative or bad to be gay. So now the presedence has been set that any lie/accusation you make on someone you will have to be removed for. Absolutely ridiculous. I hate these fake producers who stereotype gays all the time sit here and pretend they are so woke.
How do we know she didn't say it like it's a bad thing though? I dont hate Ashley, but she's not an angel. Especially when she drinks or is seeing red. Tori didn't call someone a f**, she used the word like soooo many people used to. I'm gay, and I'd defend even someone I hate in this context.
Agreed. We will have to see it play out but it likely won't. I'm sure someone will spill the details. When people are angry enough they say whatever will cut the deepest or hurt the most. It might not be an indication of how they truly feel. This is why I'm so anti cancel culture. Not every bad comment makes you a bad person. I gotta find out exactly what/how it went down and how Ashley responds.
Really good response and very accurate. Time will tell and we shall see. I think her silence right now is very convenient though.
i'm gonna end with saying that Tori turned 19 at the beginning of 2012. a lot of excuses are "they were young/didn't know better/times are different". doesn't matter. this is a full blown woman tweeting that, treat her as such. not a 10 year old, weirdos
We're talking about people finding tweets for a decade ago and not comprehending that an 18 year old or anyone really wouldn't have seen that as problematic at the time. Think 2012 vs 2020. People just want to be offended.
it's a difference if you was 17-18 at the time a tweet came out of you saying something offensive ( if it doesn't apply to you, don't speak on it ) but someone who is 23-24 putting those tweets out isn't ok. To be honest there's no excuse for either at all
I don't care what anyone said on social media in 2012 if that was accepted then but isn't now. You can't hold someone's past comments to today's standard.
depending on the comment, you sure can
You absolutely can't. That's the problem here. The standard at the time is all that matters.
if a GROWN ADULT uses the n word in their tweet in 2012 and their not black, anyone who is black can go ahead and tell them they're wrong. Anyone who is not black should know using that slur isn't ok ( this is an example of many slurs u can hold people on )
i feel like anyone has the right to be offended if it's against their skin color, sexuality, ethnicity etc., no matter how long ago. most people who say "they changed, its so long ago" are probably the ones who aren't effected in the situation. so it's easy for them to say that
If they give ANYONE a ghost edit other than Lauren i will be very upset. if they come across what Emy has been saying and if they decide to edit Ashley out when they're both very relevant, even though they shouldn't have said what they did, it's still annoying.
if a GROWN ADULT uses the n word in their tweet in 2012 and their not black, anyone who is black can go ahead and tell them they're wrong. Anyone who is not black should know using that slur isn't ok ( this is an example of many slurs u can hold people on )
That wasn't acceptable in 2012 so I'm not sure what your point is. I said that was "the standard at the time".
You're wrong assuming everyone would know that--some people were sheltered to the point that they wouldn't know. See Emily Schromm for example.
How do we know she didn't say it like it's a bad thing though? I dont hate Ashley, but she's not an angel. Especially when she drinks or is seeing red. Tori didn't call someone a f**, she used the word like soooo many people used to. I'm gay, and I'd defend even someone I hate in this context.
Uneducated? Sure. Ignorant? **** yes. But not homophobic. Ashley should know better but like I said, she gets unpredictable at times.
I don't care what anyone said on social media in 2012 if that was accepted then but isn't now. You can't hold someone's past comments to today's standard.
depending on the comment, you sure can
100000%
i love seeing the apologists sweat. have the day you deserve
Agreed. We will have to see it play out but it likely won't. I'm sure someone will spill the details. When people are angry enough they say whatever will cut the deepest or hurt the most. It might not be an indication of how they truly feel. This is why I'm so anti cancel culture. Not every bad comment makes you a bad person. I gotta find out exactly what/how it went down and how Ashley responds.
I just hope this whole situation isn't rooted in the idea that Josh might be gay bc it would all be counterintuitive. Hopefully this is just a zero tolerance standard now being enforced
What if Ashley did say "we all know youre gay, just say it?" Like what next? Everyone's jaws drop bc Ashley just addressed the elephant in the room? A bunch of *gasps* and confessionals on Ashley ******* up and people defending Josh? That would be kind of awkward imo b/c now there's this big moment insinuating that Ashley just outed someone, even thought Josh hasn't given any reason for people to think he's in the closet aside from his mannerisms. With Natalie, she had kissed Veronica in the house and had a girlfriend.
Like what would the reaction be if Joss was on and Ashley started arguing with him and said "we all know you and Rogan are gay and dating, just say it"?
Dr. Phil is not real ****
It's already been established that kvm likes to go against the popular opinion just to be different lol
Apologist where? Swear where? You can't just make random statements to sound good, you're getting more and more embarrassing.
And you didn't answer my question.. Keep up.
You absolutely can't. That's the problem here. The standard at the time is all that matters.
Really good response and very accurate. Time will tell and we shall see. I think her silence right now is very convenient though.
PR do you know how production generally feels about Ashley? She's constantly quitting/out early but brought back, but she claims production hates her.
i'm gonna end with saying that Tori turned 19 at the beginning of 2012. a lot of excuses are "they were young/didn't know better/times are different". doesn't matter. this is a full blown woman tweeting that, treat her as such. not a 10 year old, weirdos
if a GROWN ADULT uses the n word in their tweet in 2012 and their not black, anyone who is black can go ahead and tell them they're wrong. Anyone who is not black should know using that slur isn't ok ( this is an example of many slurs u can hold people on )
i feel like anyone has the right to be offended if it's against their skin color, sexuality, ethnicity etc., no matter how long ago. most people who say "they changed, its so long ago" are probably the ones who aren't effected in the situation. so it's easy for them to say that
she thinks MTV hates her lol i think production likes her. But as I've said before, they're a production fave until they're not.
yup you can tell they were pushing dee/georgia and dropped them with the quickness
If they give ANYONE a ghost edit other than Lauren i will be very upset. if they come across what Emy has been saying and if they decide to edit Ashley out when they're both very relevant, even though they shouldn't have said what they did, it's still annoying.
Big T and Priscilla met up at a party
speaking of dee i saw her tweet that got her banned on twitter yesterday and lmaoooooo swaggy/bay def stopped her bag
Wait but didn't you say people can't change or does that only apply to people you don't like???
Edit- Nvm i see y'all already got him for it
it applies to whatever will make him look more edgy
How tall is Priscilla? I always assummed she was like 5 8 but big T isn't that tall?
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& both are waiting high heels
That wasn't acceptable in 2012 so I'm not sure what your point is. I said that was "the standard at the time".
You're wrong assuming everyone would know that--some people were sheltered to the point that they wouldn't know. See Emily Schromm for example.
I thought the same thing, maybe Big T is wearing heals and Priscilla isn't?
Both seem to be waiting lol
I would be shook if she is under 5 8 because she looks tall on her Ig pics
i ont like dis cause that wasnt their intention
i saw somewhere that big t was 5'5 but i dont know if that's true
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