The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Imagine if the Karen was gonna go into elimination against a flop then got herself dqd lmaoo

PR, I don't know if you exactly know what Ashley said but if you do will you eventually reveal it? And do you think they're gonna show it on the episode?

As a gay man who is indifferent towards Ashley and cant stand Josh since he was on BB i think IF the fight involved ashley insinuating josh being gay there are two ways it couldve went

1) her using it in a derogatory way to insinuate it being a bad thing - NOT ok at all

2) her saying something like "we all know it josh. Just admit you're gay already" - personally id be okay with, while outting someone is never cool. This is also a reality tv show and its happened on the show before (definitely still doesnt make it right) but its a reality tv show at the end of the day

 

 

If we judge everyone by what they said at 18 not many people are going to be doing very well in life.

But isnt your motto "people doesn't change"

period queen!!! and in most cases, the ones that want to forgive the problematic/harmful things people said previously have done the same exact things and want everyone to overlook their own problematic pasts

 

If we judge everyone by what they said at 18 not many people are going to be doing very well in life.

But isnt your motto "people doesn't change"

Correct--they don't change.

Then why are you using someone being 18 as an excuse ? 

I wonder what the argument was about for to lead up to her getting kicked out. It got to be more than just the game

She was just in elimination, I'd bet her flipped on her and she got mad.

People at 18 often say things that they don't understand are acceptable.  They likely don't even understand the actual meaning of it or why people would be insulted.  It's like Paula saying the "r" word every other sentence for years.  She didn't mean harm by it.   She was just ignorant.  That's not changing.  That's simply learning what you can say and can't say.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really wouldn't mind a Tori win, she kinda gets unwarranted hate so she deserves a win. <3

the hate she receives is not unwarranted 

People say nasty stuff about her because she's annoying.. lol. That's unwarranted.

And dont even call her homophobic because I've seen the tweet, I'm gay, and that's not homophobia lol.

that's such a problematic thing to say LOL. thanks for gatekeeping gay experiences!!

You're welcome. An 18 year old girl uses the word "f**" in 2012, not calling someone the word, and using it to mean "dumb" is ignorant. It wasn't homophobic. You getting all riled up says more about you so keep going.

my pulse and blood pressure levels have remained consistently low throughout this interaction, but i do enjoy calling you out on excusing weird behavior and making excuses for your fave who is clearly a hateful, s**t for brains individual. were you 18 spewing slurs not giving a second thought??? it comes with consequences, by 18 you know better

1. Tori isn't a fave, I'd defend this for anyone. As a gay man, I can confidently say you're pathetic.

2. Yes, actually I did say and do things 18 that I regret but learned from. Doesn't mean it defined me as a person. And now I'm in my late 20s and consider myself a great person.

3. You haven't called me out at all cause your points suck and nobody cares.  

4. You're sad. Let's stop spamming the thread, back under the bridge ya go.

love getting the bullet point rundown, the effort warms my heart. i don't need to say much more about you, you said yourself you'd defend anyone's problematic behavior, which includes behavior involving slurs...yikes. calling me sad and pathetic is clear projection, so i hope you figure everything out soon love <3

thanks for verifying your ignorance, my work here is done!

Those are numbers not bullets.

the knitpicking and projecting just shows you have nothing to say. we got you gal

What's the popular opinion right now? That's what kvm will argue against tbh

People at 18 often say things that they don't understand are acceptable.  They likely don't even understand the actual meaning of it or why people would be insulted.  It's like Paula saying the "r" word every other sentence for years.  She didn't mean harm by it.   She was just ignorant.  That's not changing.  That's simply learning what you can say and can't say.

Paula is a grown woman, she should know what the r word means in her 20s and 30s

 

 

 

If we judge everyone by what they said at 18 not many people are going to be doing very well in life.

But isnt your motto "people doesn't change"

period queen!!! and in most cases, the ones that want to forgive the problematic/harmful things people said previously have done the same exact things and want everyone to overlook their own problematic pasts

Don't suck up to PR ****. Embarrassing. Also when you become an adult you'll understand life better. And the difference between bullets and numbers.

 

Nelson is on this show after the DR Phil episode exposed his abusive ways with texts and pictures receipts against Angela

Yup! It's ridiculous. But apparently there is no reason to hate Nelson... 

 Did you watch it ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really wouldn't mind a Tori win, she kinda gets unwarranted hate so she deserves a win. <3

the hate she receives is not unwarranted 

People say nasty stuff about her because she's annoying.. lol. That's unwarranted.

And dont even call her homophobic because I've seen the tweet, I'm gay, and that's not homophobia lol.

that's such a problematic thing to say LOL. thanks for gatekeeping gay experiences!!

You're welcome. An 18 year old girl uses the word "f**" in 2012, not calling someone the word, and using it to mean "dumb" is ignorant. It wasn't homophobic. You getting all riled up says more about you so keep going.

my pulse and blood pressure levels have remained consistently low throughout this interaction, but i do enjoy calling you out on excusing weird behavior and making excuses for your fave who is clearly a hateful, s**t for brains individual. were you 18 spewing slurs not giving a second thought??? it comes with consequences, by 18 you know better

1. Tori isn't a fave, I'd defend this for anyone. As a gay man, I can confidently say you're pathetic.

2. Yes, actually I did say and do things 18 that I regret but learned from. Doesn't mean it defined me as a person. And now I'm in my late 20s and consider myself a great person.

3. You haven't called me out at all cause your points suck and nobody cares.  

4. You're sad. Let's stop spamming the thread, back under the bridge ya go.

love getting the bullet point rundown, the effort warms my heart. i don't need to say much more about you, you said yourself you'd defend anyone's problematic behavior, which includes behavior involving slurs...yikes. calling me sad and pathetic is clear projection, so i hope you figure everything out soon love <3

thanks for verifying your ignorance, my work here is done!

Those are numbers not bullets.

the knitpicking and projecting just shows you have nothing to say. we got you gal

That was a joke lmaoo. My god you're such a child I cannot entertain idiocracy anymore. Go do your homework, Summer School.

 

If we judge everyone by what they said at 18 not many people are going to be doing very well in life.

But isnt your motto "people doesn't change"

got em'

People at 18 often say things that they don't understand are acceptable.  They likely don't even understand the actual meaning of it or why people would be insulted.  It's like Paula saying the "r" word every other sentence for years.  She didn't mean harm by it.   She was just ignorant.  That's not changing.  That's simply learning what you can say and can't say.

Paula is a grown woman, she should know what the r word means in her 20s and 30s

Because growing up for Paula it wasn't problematic.  Just like people like many others words.

 

 

 

 

If we judge everyone by what they said at 18 not many people are going to be doing very well in life.

But isnt your motto "people doesn't change"

period queen!!! and in most cases, the ones that want to forgive the problematic/harmful things people said previously have done the same exact things and want everyone to overlook their own problematic pasts

Don't suck up to PR ****. Embarrassing. Also when you become an adult you'll understand life better. And the difference between bullets and numbers.

PR's agreeing what i've said, crawl back under that rock now that you've realized defending slurs isn't cool like you thought. "sad/embarrasing" careful girl, your defensiveness is showing, and i see you trying to bring up josh to change the subject

 

 

 

If we judge everyone by what they said at 18 not many people are going to be doing very well in life.

But isnt your motto "people doesn't change"

period queen!!! and in most cases, the ones that want to forgive the problematic/harmful things people said previously have done the same exact things and want everyone to overlook their own problematic pasts

I personally think people can envolved and become better version of themselves with time and if they are willing to break patterns. 

But Kvm is the one that always tell us that people "doesn't change" whenever we mentioned someone growing up. So it's hypocrital for him to used the "she was 18" excuse.

It's like people forget words that were used in movies as recently as 10 years ago that people are now offended by

Alright before Summer School rolls up again with more nonsense,

Bettina eliminated byyy Amanda? Nany?

 

 

 

 

 

If we judge everyone by what they said at 18 not many people are going to be doing very well in life.

But isnt your motto "people doesn't change"

period queen!!! and in most cases, the ones that want to forgive the problematic/harmful things people said previously have done the same exact things and want everyone to overlook their own problematic pasts

Don't suck up to PR ****. Embarrassing. Also when you become an adult you'll understand life better. And the difference between bullets and numbers.

PR's agreeing what i've said, crawl back under that rock now that you've realized defending slurs isn't cool like you thought. "sad/embarrasing" careful girl, your defensiveness is showing, and i see you trying to bring up josh to change the subject

When did I "defend" a slur? No, baby.. that's not what I did. And when did I bring up Josh? Lol. Nobody is defending you or backing you up because you're missing points and not proving yours. I don't think anything is "cool", but your embarrassing yourself a Summer School.

Alright before Summer School rolls up again with more nonsense,

Bettina eliminated byyy Amanda? Nany?

attempt at changing the subject again. the name calling and "it was just a joke"....we caught this man red-handed, i live!

It's kinda wild how pc this show has gotten though 

Honestly hope pr doesn't tell us who eliminated Bettina like why are we acting like she's somecforce 

 

Alright before Summer School rolls up again with more nonsense,

Bettina eliminated byyy Amanda? Nany?

attempt at changing the subject again. the name calling and "it was just a joke"....we caught this man red-handed, i live!

Cause you're a waste of time and space.

Also "we"? Who has commented with you? Seriously, who?

We're talking about people finding tweets for a decade ago and not comprehending that an 18 year old or anyone really wouldn't have seen that as problematic at the time.   Think 2012 vs 2020.   People just want to be offended.

Honestly hope pr doesn't tell us who eliminated Bettina like why are we acting like she's somecforce 

I feel like she'll just wait til she posts the final results. I think it was Amanda though, she wants to give people a little happiness.

Based on PR & Gamer it's clear she said something like "we all know your gay". I hope they don't give her the Dee treatment and ruin the story this season. I have an issue with this because they want so bad for Escort to be the face of the show and ignore her using the f word. Ashley didn't say it was negative or bad to be gay. So now the presedence has been set that any lie/accusation you make on someone you will have to be removed for. Absolutely ridiculous. I hate these fake producers who stereotype gays all the time sit here and pretend they are so woke.

It's kinda wild how pc this show has gotten though 

We're talking about people finding tweets for a decade ago and not comprehending that an 18 year old or anyone really wouldn't have seen that as problematic at the time.   Think 2012 vs 2020.   People just want to be offended.

it's a difference if you was 17-18 at the time a tweet came out of you saying something offensive ( if it doesn't apply to you, don't speak on it ) but someone who is 23-24 putting those tweets out isn't ok. To be honest there's no excuse for either at all 

We're talking about people finding tweets for a decade ago and not comprehending that an 18 year old or anyone really wouldn't have seen that as problematic at the time.   Think 2012 vs 2020.   People just want to be offended.

This is 100% true, even movies that used he R word because I was a thing 10+ years ago now censor it when on tv because times change.

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