never watched BOTS2 so saying this from a pure representation and attractiveness standpoint, but would love to see Nick Haggert on this, hes an attractive LGBT male in good shape and we didnt get any LGBT males on szn 1
never watched BOTS2 so saying this from a pure representation and attractiveness standpoint, but would love to see Nick Haggert on this, hes an attractive LGBT male in good shape and we didnt get any LGBT males on szn 1
He looks soooo different than what he did on extreme.
never watched BOTS2 so saying this from a pure representation and attractiveness standpoint, but would love to see Nick Haggert on this, hes an attractive LGBT male in good shape and we didnt get any LGBT males on szn 1
Nick was a bit boring.....but would take him over Easy, Derrick and Mark
When she first started on the challengen Veronica complained people were jealous and playing a manipulative game and look how she turned out she became the exact same person she complained about and worse!
I don't remember V ever bullying anyone. Her comment on Jemmys post was a fact....she said nothing bad about Beth
When she first started on the challengen Veronica complained people were jealous and playing a manipulative game and look how she turned out she became the exact same person she complained about and worse!
I don't remember V ever bullying anyone. Her comment on Jemmys post was a fact....she said nothing bad about Beth
Lol @ anyone thinking Veronica "mothered" Tonya on The Ruins. Multiple castmembers said that Veronica made comments mocking Tonya and referenced the allegations and that is why Tonya snapped. We see Evan yell at Veronica for going too far. The word bully is overused and Katie & Beth both verbally annihilated her so they weren't poor victims, but she has always been a mean girl and *****. She hasn't grown out of it or matured, in fact she has greatly regressed.
Lol @ anyone thinking Veronica "mothered" Tonya on The Ruins. Multiple castmembers said that Veronica made comments mocking Tonya and referenced the allegations and that is why Tonya snapped. We see Evan yell at Veronica for going too far. The word bully is overused and Katie & Beth both verbally annihilated her so they weren't poor victims, but she has always been a mean girl and *****. She hasn't grown out of it or matured, in fact she has greatly regressed.
Yeah, mothered? Probably basing that on one behind the scenes Challenge clip (whatever they were called), where Veronica was consoling a drunk Tonya but it was in more of a patronizing, "alright, you're a mess, so let me calm you down" with a smirk on her face kind of way. She didn't look like she was taking the situation seriously. To spin that into she was mothering her the whole Challenge is a bit much.
And everyone said Veronica said something WAY over the line to Tonya that triggered her.
Yeah, Veronica needs to grow up. But all you have to do is what Arissa did and what Beth does. Bring up the f-ed up thing she did to Tonya with the pictures and... dead silence. Maybe if she took responsibility for that and apologized, we would take her a bit more seriously when she whines about female empowerment and people downing her.
To see these mean girls decades later still holding on to bitterness about petty things and just now, I listen to Jonna who went through emotional abuse by her ex boyfriend on a Challenge, be mature enough to not even say a single negative thing about him because she's moved on, it speaks to people's character. And I just saw that Veronica is bitter about Jemmye being cool with Beth on All Stars instead of hating her because she said so. Veronica is SAD.
Lol @ anyone thinking Veronica "mothered" Tonya on The Ruins. Multiple castmembers said that Veronica made comments mocking Tonya and referenced the allegations and that is why Tonya snapped. We see Evan yell at Veronica for going too far. The word bully is overused and Katie & Beth both verbally annihilated her so they weren't poor victims, but she has always been a mean girl and *****. She hasn't grown out of it or matured, in fact she has greatly regressed.
Yeah, mothered? Probably basing that on one behind the scenes Challenge clip (whatever they were called), where Veronica was consoling a drunk Tonya but it was in more of a patronizing, "alright, you're a mess, so let me calm you down" with a smirk on her face kind of way. She didn't look like she was taking the situation seriously. To spin that into she was mothering her the whole Challenge is a bit much.
And everyone said Veronica said something WAY over the line to Tonya that triggered her.
Yeah, Veronica needs to grow up. But all you have to do is what Arissa did and what Beth does. Bring up the f-ed up thing she did to Tonya with the pictures and... dead silence. Maybe if she took responsibility for that and apologized, we would take her a bit more seriously when she whines about female empowerment and people downing her.
To see these mean girls decades later still holding on to bitterness about petty things and just now, I listen to Jonna who went through emotional abuse by her ex boyfriend on a Challenge, be mature enough to not even say a single negative thing about him because she's moved on, it speaks to people's character. And I just saw that Veronica is bitter about Jemmye being cool with Beth on All Stars instead of hating her because she said so. Veronica is SAD.
I'm sorry but the way some of y'all rewrite history is misguided and legit concerning. Veronica said really messed up things that should've never been uttered, but the way people make Tonya out to be some helpless victim when there's literal footage of her taunting Veronica for her sexuality...you're all just stupid hypocrites. And now here you all are defending Beth, who made constant remarks back in the day about Rachel and Veronica and basically outed them. Like how moronic can you all be? They're all in the wrong! Literally none of these people are innocent, but you freaks of nature and your disturbing stan behavior has you worshipping the ground these people walk on and flaming the **** out of others. So should we bring up Cara Maria's alleged remarks about Ayiiia's history with self-harm on Cutthroat? Should we mention Evelyn using the R word on The Ruins? Or the racist, deplorable politics of people like Marie? All y'all's faves have problematic histories, and attacking people the way y'all do only makes you look flagrant, hypocritical, and delusional. Get a life!
Lol @ anyone thinking Veronica "mothered" Tonya on The Ruins. Multiple castmembers said that Veronica made comments mocking Tonya and referenced the allegations and that is why Tonya snapped. We see Evan yell at Veronica for going too far. The word bully is overused and Katie & Beth both verbally annihilated her so they weren't poor victims, but she has always been a mean girl and *****. She hasn't grown out of it or matured, in fact she has greatly regressed.
Evan said that Veronica went "too far" after Tonya crossed the line not before. Literally everyone said that Veronica was the one taking care of Tonya throughout that season. Tonya was out of control that night and went after Veronica's personal life--Veronica gave it right back to Tonya as Veronica will always do. Tonya, drunk or not, was responsbile for her actions. Veronica's far from a saint but you have no idea what happened on The Ruins apparently.
Oh, I forgot KVM was there. Your stalker *** probably was cause your relationship with the show is that unhealthy. It's just weird.
My relationship is unhealthy? I'm not the one calling people "queen" every 5 seconds. If you were here when The Ruins aired you wouldn't be saying such ridiculous things. And if you were here then you either have the worst memory ever or just pushing an agenda against V
None of these people are innocent and their actions are in the past in a time where you could get away with a lot more both on and off tv. Painting over their actions back then with today's paintbrush isn't going to work.
All I will say on the subject is that Tonya should not have been there (period) and it was not Veronica's job to take care of someone who needed to be elsewhere battling addiction/mental health issues. Despite how V treated Tonya in the past, there was a lot more going on there and it went beyond just V being mean to Tonya in the past or whatever. While I'm sure V was trying, it's also extremely taxing to deal with someone like that especially if you didn't really like them as a person before they got to that state. I don't really blame V here, nor do I blame Tonya because I'm sure she was battling a lot.
Regardless, I doubt we see either anytime soon on this so take it to the general or Ruins thread.
Oh, I forgot KVM was there. Your stalker *** probably was cause your relationship with the show is that unhealthy. It's just weird.
My relationship is unhealthy? I'm not the one calling people "queen" every 5 seconds. If you were here when The Ruins aired you wouldn't be saying such ridiculous things. And if you were here then you either have the worst memory ever or just pushing an agenda against V
I was here during The Ruins lol. I rarely use "queen" and if I do it's a joke.
im still unclear why veronica was never on season 1
she didnt want to do it lol
Exactly--Veronica's one of those people that's always going to tease us with a return but won't follow through. She wouldn't have fun anyway with Beth Trishelle and others there.
I gave up on seeing her on the regular show. I am still holding out hope for All-Stars. I think hearing and seeing what a positive experience everyone had could help. Hopefully there won't be a quarantine period if they are vaccinated next time and maybe that'll entice her.
road rules xtreme i believe
He looks soooo different than what he did on extreme.
Nick was a bit boring.....but would take him over Easy, Derrick and Mark
I don't remember V ever bullying anyone. Her comment on Jemmys post was a fact....she said nothing bad about Beth
I don't remember V ever bullying anyone. Her comment on Jemmys post was a fact....she said nothing bad about Beth
Lol @ anyone thinking Veronica "mothered" Tonya on The Ruins. Multiple castmembers said that Veronica made comments mocking Tonya and referenced the allegations and that is why Tonya snapped. We see Evan yell at Veronica for going too far. The word bully is overused and Katie & Beth both verbally annihilated her so they weren't poor victims, but she has always been a mean girl and *****. She hasn't grown out of it or matured, in fact she has greatly regressed.
Beth dragged her.
Yeah, mothered? Probably basing that on one behind the scenes Challenge clip (whatever they were called), where Veronica was consoling a drunk Tonya but it was in more of a patronizing, "alright, you're a mess, so let me calm you down" with a smirk on her face kind of way. She didn't look like she was taking the situation seriously. To spin that into she was mothering her the whole Challenge is a bit much.
And everyone said Veronica said something WAY over the line to Tonya that triggered her.
Yeah, Veronica needs to grow up. But all you have to do is what Arissa did and what Beth does. Bring up the f-ed up thing she did to Tonya with the pictures and... dead silence. Maybe if she took responsibility for that and apologized, we would take her a bit more seriously when she whines about female empowerment and people downing her.
To see these mean girls decades later still holding on to bitterness about petty things and just now, I listen to Jonna who went through emotional abuse by her ex boyfriend on a Challenge, be mature enough to not even say a single negative thing about him because she's moved on, it speaks to people's character. And I just saw that Veronica is bitter about Jemmye being cool with Beth on All Stars instead of hating her because she said so. Veronica is SAD.
THIS
I'm sorry but the way some of y'all rewrite history is misguided and legit concerning. Veronica said really messed up things that should've never been uttered, but the way people make Tonya out to be some helpless victim when there's literal footage of her taunting Veronica for her sexuality...you're all just stupid hypocrites. And now here you all are defending Beth, who made constant remarks back in the day about Rachel and Veronica and basically outed them. Like how moronic can you all be? They're all in the wrong! Literally none of these people are innocent, but you freaks of nature and your disturbing stan behavior has you worshipping the ground these people walk on and flaming the **** out of others. So should we bring up Cara Maria's alleged remarks about Ayiiia's history with self-harm on Cutthroat? Should we mention Evelyn using the R word on The Ruins? Or the racist, deplorable politics of people like Marie? All y'all's faves have problematic histories, and attacking people the way y'all do only makes you look flagrant, hypocritical, and delusional. Get a life!
Lol.
No one's reading all that
Evan said that Veronica went "too far" after Tonya crossed the line not before. Literally everyone said that Veronica was the one taking care of Tonya throughout that season. Tonya was out of control that night and went after Veronica's personal life--Veronica gave it right back to Tonya as Veronica will always do. Tonya, drunk or not, was responsbile for her actions. Veronica's far from a saint but you have no idea what happened on The Ruins apparently.
Oh, I forgot KVM was there. Your stalker *** probably was cause your relationship with the show is that unhealthy. It's just weird.
My relationship is unhealthy? I'm not the one calling people "queen" every 5 seconds. If you were here when The Ruins aired you wouldn't be saying such ridiculous things. And if you were here then you either have the worst memory ever or just pushing an agenda against V
None of these people are innocent and their actions are in the past in a time where you could get away with a lot more both on and off tv. Painting over their actions back then with today's paintbrush isn't going to work.
All I will say on the subject is that Tonya should not have been there (period) and it was not Veronica's job to take care of someone who needed to be elsewhere battling addiction/mental health issues. Despite how V treated Tonya in the past, there was a lot more going on there and it went beyond just V being mean to Tonya in the past or whatever. While I'm sure V was trying, it's also extremely taxing to deal with someone like that especially if you didn't really like them as a person before they got to that state. I don't really blame V here, nor do I blame Tonya because I'm sure she was battling a lot.
Regardless, I doubt we see either anytime soon on this so take it to the general or Ruins thread.
I was here during The Ruins lol. I rarely use "queen" and if I do it's a joke.
im still unclear why veronica was never on season 1
she didnt want to do it lol
Exactly--Veronica's one of those people that's always going to tease us with a return but won't follow through. She wouldn't have fun anyway with Beth Trishelle and others there.
Sophia will become Challenge royalty.
she didn't want to do it but complain that's she is not on. It doesn't make any sense at all
exactly
id take coral over veronica 10000x
we all would cause we haven't seen coral in forever. coral also teases us but never has actually agreed to come back
she another one who like to pull that shit, i hate when she does it too. Shit not cute nor funny
ive personally given up on coral. i dont expect her back ever despite her antics.
i hope veronica, tina, coral and rachel are on next season.
with the addition of ayanna, sophia, jillian, jasmine, jenn grijalva, kina, brittini and ellen
along with the returns of trishelle, katie, jisela, jonna and aneesa.
I gave up on seeing her on the regular show. I am still holding out hope for All-Stars. I think hearing and seeing what a positive experience everyone had could help. Hopefully there won't be a quarantine period if they are vaccinated next time and maybe that'll entice her.
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