The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies ( Pointless early speculation)

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who ever actually wins the show by being behind and on the chopping block week to week tho? if you want to win tanking eliminations is the least successful way to do it. 

Pretty sure the record of elimination wins and winning the season is 3 at most. You're not going to win like that ever 

I stand corrected Sarah won the Gauntlet with 5 elimination wins but regardless winners usually don't have an insane amount of elimination wins during that season 

idc about kaycee, unless she has a smart partner or team. she's never winning, shes too dumb. gives off cory vibes, really good but being slow is holding her down

No more red skulls and gold skulls. 

the "problematic" people they're tweeting about are not good cast members so idc what happens to them. y'all gonna lose sleep over some jabs at Jay and Natalie A who give y'all not shit? lmao 

shut up

This cast already went down the drain huh lol

only Devin has my excited.

 

the "problematic" people they're tweeting about are not good cast members so idc what happens to them. y'all gonna lose sleep over some jabs at Jay and Natalie A who give y'all not shit? lmao 

shut up

This just finna be the boring/walmart version of wotw

who ever actually wins the show by being behind and on the chopping block week to week tho? if you want to win tanking eliminations is the least successful way to do it. 

This, the lame *** skulls really have people thinking elimination wins are the most important things 

 

 

 

I just hope somebody targets Kaycee this season.This girl has coasted 2 seasons in a row,please give her some adversity.

She volunteered to go in elimination against one of the strongest girls this season 

And won 4 missions 

 

2 of her wins came with help from other teams.Kaycee has had it easy,she's never been a target,everybody is her friend.I want to see her on the chopping block.It's easier to play well when front running,but how well does she play if her back is against the wall.Somebody needs to target her next season,and if they don't I hope she wins.

That's just called good gameplay hon. You never want to be a target smh

 

the "problematic" people they're tweeting about are not good cast members so idc what happens to them. y'all gonna lose sleep over some jabs at Jay and Natalie A who give y'all not shit? lmao 

shut up

i almost jumped out of character then i realized this was you Malik. don't do me in public 

lets tag team this Mugen person

 

the "problematic" people they're tweeting about are not good cast members so idc what happens to them. y'all gonna lose sleep over some jabs at Jay and Natalie A who give y'all not shit? lmao 

shut up

i almost jumped out of character then i realized this was you Malik. don't do me in public 

no that's your friend now baby, you got the alt accounts confident to drag me. i need to rebrand 

 

the "problematic" people they're tweeting about are not good cast members so idc what happens to them. y'all gonna lose sleep over some jabs at Jay and Natalie A who give y'all not shit? lmao 

shut up

Malikkkk  yesss lmao

 

 

 

 

I just hope somebody targets Kaycee this season.This girl has coasted 2 seasons in a row,please give her some adversity.

She volunteered to go in elimination against one of the strongest girls this season 

And won 4 missions 

 

2 of her wins came with help from other teams.Kaycee has had it easy,she's never been a target,everybody is her friend.I want to see her on the chopping block.It's easier to play well when front running,but how well does she play if her back is against the wall.Somebody needs to target her next season,and if they don't I hope she wins.

That's just called good gameplay hon. You never want to be a target smh

Good gameplay doesn't equal good tv.It's Kaycee's job to worry about not being a target,it's my job as a viewer to be entertained.I didn't think that had to be said.Of course Kaycee should want the easiest path taken,but I'm not speaking from the perspective of Kaycee.A part of the reason this show is so dull,is because some of these people just coast to the end unchallenged.

Am I really the only one sick of Devin and Nelson? I am excited to see how they mesh with Amanda but she can't carry the whole male cast on her back.

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

My good sis will carry the entertainment all the way until she wins that final <3 ugh so happy shes back

we need an amanda, big t or natalie win that is all.

Queen Amanda! That's the only name I care about at this point lol

A part of the reason this show is so dull,is because some of these people just coast to the end unchallenged.

That has always been true.  Kaycee had to win an elimination the past two seasons because of dumb complaints like this.   Gameplay is bad   SMH

 

A part of the reason this show is so dull,is because some of these people just coast to the end unchallenged.

That has always been true.  Kaycee had to win an elimination the past two seasons because of dumb complaints like this.   Gameplay is bad   SMH

Not relevant to what I'm saying at all,a lot of challengers have been challenged along the way.Even Cara's cult the whole reason for the skull twist,was challenged by Johnny,Laurel,Jordan, and Tori's alliance.They just happened to outplay them..There's a difference between somebody targeting you,and you outsmarting/outplaying them with good gameplay,and nobody targeting you at all,and just coasting with little to no effort.I don't think anybody finds the latter enjoyable to watch. 

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

give the word and I'll get JLP a plane ticket

 

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

give the word and I'll get JLP a plane ticket

bet bet, i think they need to switch that shit up and go two hosts male and female. keep the challenge commentary fresh and give it a new look 

You need to specify because you know MTV will throw Johnny Wes and Tori as our next hosts without hesitation in a millisecond lmaoooo

You need to specify because you know MTV will throw Johnny Wes and Tori as our next hosts without hesitation in a millisecond lmaoooo

Terrence J and one of the cute ESPN girl correspondents since i know they want to be a "sport" 

A part of the reason this show is so dull,is because some of these people just coast to the end unchallenged.

That has always been true.  Kaycee had to win an elimination the past two seasons because of dumb complaints like this.   Gameplay is bad   SMH

Not relevant to what I'm saying at all,a lot of challengers have been challenged along the way.Even Cara's cult the whole reason for the skull twist,was challenged by Johnny,Laurel,Jordan, and Tori's alliance.They just happened to outplay them..There's a difference between somebody targeting you,and you outsmarting/outplaying them with good gameplay,and nobody targeting you at all,and just coasting with little to no effort.I don't think anybody finds the latter enjoyable to watch. 

Kaycee plays an amazing social game--there's a ton of effort.  She went in against Theresa. 

The reason this show is dull right now isn't Kaycee playing a great political game--it's casting and format

 

A part of the reason this show is so dull,is because some of these people just coast to the end unchallenged.

That has always been true.  Kaycee had to win an elimination the past two seasons because of dumb complaints like this.   Gameplay is bad   SMH

Not relevant to what I'm saying at all,a lot of challengers have been challenged along the way.Even Cara's cult the whole reason for the skull twist,was challenged by Johnny,Laurel,Jordan, and Tori's alliance.They just happened to outplay them..There's a difference between somebody targeting you,and you outsmarting/outplaying them with good gameplay,and nobody targeting you at all,and just coasting with little to no effort.I don't think anybody finds the latter enjoyable to watch. 

Kaycee plays an amazing social game--there's a ton of effort.  She went in against Theresa. 

The reason this show is dull right now isn't Kaycee playing a great political game--it's casting and format

Again the point is flying over your head.This isn't a knock against Kaycee's gameplay.You seem to want to make it about that.It's a knock against everybody else's gameplay,in addition to it making boring tv.because no one is willing to target her.It's always more fun to watch when challengers have opposition.Throwing herself into an elimination against an already injured Theresa is not the definition of having opposition in the game.She was never targeted or even discussed,which good for her,but bad to watch.

I hope these girls coming in next season apply that pressure.

Valerie Bertinelli would be a great host. 

Again the point is flying over your head.This isn't a knock against Kaycee's gameplay.You seem to want to make it about that.It's a knock against everybody else's gameplay,in addition to it making boring tv.because no one is willing to target her.It's always more fun to watch when challengers have opposition.Throwing herself into an elimination against an already injured Theresa is not the definition of having opposition in the game.She was never targeted or even discussed,which good for her,but bad to watch.

I hope these girls coming in next season apply that pressure.

She isn't targeted because of her game play--see Jenn Grijalva.  There have always been people that weren't targeted.   

You don't have a point.  You just want people to target Kaycee but have no issue with people not targeting Cory, Kam, Leroy, CT or half the cast this season.  This is about format.  Why are you singling Kaycee out?   Stop while you're significanty behind

 

Again the point is flying over your head.This isn't a knock against Kaycee's gameplay.You seem to want to make it about that.It's a knock against everybody else's gameplay,in addition to it making boring tv.because no one is willing to target her.It's always more fun to watch when challengers have opposition.Throwing herself into an elimination against an already injured Theresa is not the definition of having opposition in the game.She was never targeted or even discussed,which good for her,but bad to watch.

I hope these girls coming in next season apply that pressure.

She isn't targeted because of her game play--see Jenn Grijalva.  There have always been people that weren't targeted.   

You don't have a point.  You just want people to target Kaycee but have no issue with people not targeting Cory, Kam, Leroy, CT or half the cast this season.  This is about format.  Why are you singling Kaycee out?   Stop while you're significanty behind

If you can't comprehend the point just say that..People didn't target Jenn,because she wasn't a threat to win.Kaycee is,so 2 different beast.Last time I checked Ct got voted into the first elimination,then was blocked from going into the elimination until he threw himself in.Kam was targeted by Theresa.Leroy isn't coming back,so why would I make a statement about him in regards to season 37.Cory was rogue half the season,and further more Cory is not a finals threat.Yes people can slide through the game that are non threats,Kaycee doesn't fall into that category.If you like watching lopsided games good for you,I happen to prefer a little back and forth,and some suspense to my games.

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