The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies ( Pointless early speculation)

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we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

give the word and I'll get JLP a plane ticket

bet bet, i think they need to switch that shit up and go two hosts male and female. keep the challenge commentary fresh and give it a new look 

Forget a male host they needa make devyn the host of either the mainshow+all reunions or allstars+all reunions or someone who used to do this show cause they have way more options for a host better than tj

Again the point is flying over your head.This isn't a knock against Kaycee's gameplay.You seem to want to make it about that.It's a knock against everybody else's gameplay,in addition to it making boring tv.because no one is willing to target her.It's always more fun to watch when challengers have opposition.Throwing herself into an elimination against an already injured Theresa is not the definition of having opposition in the game.She was never targeted or even discussed,which good for her,but bad to watch.

I hope these girls coming in next season apply that pressure.

She isn't targeted because of her game play--see Jenn Grijalva.  There have always been people that weren't targeted.   

You don't have a point.  You just want people to target Kaycee but have no issue with people not targeting Cory, Kam, Leroy, CT or half the cast this season.  This is about format.  Why are you singling Kaycee out?   Stop while you're significanty behind

If you can't comprehend the point just say that..People didn't target Jenn,because she wasn't a threat to win.Kaycee is,so 2 different beast.Last time I checked Ct got voted into the first elimination,then was blocked from going into the elimination until he threw himself in.Kam was targeted by Theresa.Leroy isn't coming back,so why would I make a statement about him in regards to season 37.Cory was rogue half the season,and further more Cory is not a finals threat.Yes people can slide through the game that are non threats,Kaycee doesn't fall into that category.If you like watching lopsided games good for you,I happen to prefer a little back and forth,and some suspense to my games.

Jenn absolutely was a threat to win she just had bad luck and bad partners.  Has Kaycee won a final or even done well in a final?   CT didn't get thrown in after that, did he?  Kam went in against who?  Who says Leroy isn't coming back?  Leroy saying he's retired means nothing see Evan, Mark, Derrick, Katie and countless others.  You apparently just don't like Kaycee or don't understand the game.  You don't want "a little back and forth"--you want Kaycee to be a target.   Again, this has been the case for as long as the show has existed.   Deal with it and stop the nonsense that I don't understand your point.  You don't have a point.

 

 

 

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

give the word and I'll get JLP a plane ticket

bet bet, i think they need to switch that shit up and go two hosts male and female. keep the challenge commentary fresh and give it a new look 

Forget a male host they needa make devyn the host of either the mainshow+all reunions or allstars+all reunions or someone who used to do this show cause they have way more options for a host better than tj

Eric Niese would probably make a decent host.. or Teck. 

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

give the word and I'll get JLP a plane ticket

bet bet, i think they need to switch that shit up and go two hosts male and female. keep the challenge commentary fresh and give it a new look 

Forget a male host they needa make devyn the host of either the mainshow+all reunions or allstars+all reunions or someone who used to do this show cause they have way more options for a host better than tj

Coral or Devyn would be great but there's no reason to get rid of TJ if we're being honest.  The cast and most of the fans like TJ.   

What fans like TJ lol?

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

give the word and I'll get JLP a plane ticket

bet bet, i think they need to switch that shit up and go two hosts male and female. keep the challenge commentary fresh and give it a new look 

Forget a male host they needa make devyn the host of either the mainshow+all reunions or allstars+all reunions or someone who used to do this show cause they have way more options for a host better than tj

Eric Niese would probably make a decent host.. or Teck. 

IMO Mark did a better job hosting than Eric on Seasons--also Eric is kind of weird now

What fans like TJ lol?

The ones not here--kind of like the ones that keep ratings high

The fans on Facebook love TJ and many believe that he created the show. 

 

What fans like TJ lol?

The ones not here--kind of like the ones that keep ratings high

Must be the same idiots that find Josh and Kaycee to be good tv.

 

Again the point is flying over your head.This isn't a knock against Kaycee's gameplay.You seem to want to make it about that.It's a knock against everybody else's gameplay,in addition to it making boring tv.because no one is willing to target her.It's always more fun to watch when challengers have opposition.Throwing herself into an elimination against an already injured Theresa is not the definition of having opposition in the game.She was never targeted or even discussed,which good for her,but bad to watch.

I hope these girls coming in next season apply that pressure.

She isn't targeted because of her game play--see Jenn Grijalva.  There have always been people that weren't targeted.   

You don't have a point.  You just want people to target Kaycee but have no issue with people not targeting Cory, Kam, Leroy, CT or half the cast this season.  This is about format.  Why are you singling Kaycee out?   Stop while you're significanty behind

If you can't comprehend the point just say that..People didn't target Jenn,because she wasn't a threat to win.Kaycee is,so 2 different beast.Last time I checked Ct got voted into the first elimination,then was blocked from going into the elimination until he threw himself in.Kam was targeted by Theresa.Leroy isn't coming back,so why would I make a statement about him in regards to season 37.Cory was rogue half the season,and further more Cory is not a finals threat.Yes people can slide through the game that are non threats,Kaycee doesn't fall into that category.If you like watching lopsided games good for you,I happen to prefer a little back and forth,and some suspense to my games.

Jenn absolutely was a threat to win she just had bad luck and bad partners.  Has Kaycee won a final or even done well in a final?   CT didn't get thrown in after that, did he?  Kam went in against who?  Who says Leroy isn't coming back?  Leroy saying he's retired means nothing see Evan, Mark, Derrick, Katie and countless others.  You apparently just don't like Kaycee or don't understand the game.  You don't want "a little back and forth"--you want Kaycee to be a target.   Again, this has been the case for as long as the show has existed.   Deal with it and stop the nonsense that I don't understand your point.  You don't have a point.

You're loud and wrong,I don't need any further observation to see you're an idiot.You're not going to make Fetch happen buddy,repeating I don't have a point,because it sailed over your head doesn't make it so.You're boring me now.#Respectfully 

What fans like TJ lol?

The ones not here--kind of like the ones that keep ratings high

Must be the same idiots that find Josh and Kaycee to be good tv.

Probably.  I'm not saying they're right--just saying this site is in the minority regarding TJ.  I think Jonny Moseley was better but...

You're loud and wrong,I don't need any further observation to see you're an idiot.You're not going to make Fetch happen buddy,repeating I don't have a point,because it sailed over your head doesn't make it so.You're boring me now.

I love when people admit defeat in this manner.

 

You're loud and wrong,I don't need any further observation to see you're an idiot.You're not going to make Fetch happen buddy,repeating I don't have a point,because it sailed over your head doesn't make it so.You're boring me now.

I love when people admit defeat in this manner.

Hahaha is that what you think that is,you poor little lost soul. I'm sorry,you're just not that interesting

Ninja and Josh seem to be unpopular with every fandom.

Ninja and Josh seem to be unpopular with every fandom.

Josh has fans for some reason.  Not sure about Ninja though Ninja could compete so she didn't bother me as much as Josh

TJ is such a non factor for me. I really couldn't care less who host. 

TJ is such a non factor for me. I really couldn't care less who host. 

TJ has become the least of this shows problems but he is truly horrific and annoying af.

TJ is such a non factor for me. I really couldn't care less who host. 

I agree--he's not great but he's not as bad as he was when they had to do voiceovers for everything back in the day.

This is random but I have no idea who Josh is as a character.. he's been on several shows now and has had no personal growth moments or is shown having real conversations. He isn't relatable at all, I can't even tell what his personality is. He just goes around yelling and crying for every little thing..  if they were going to make him a regular, you'd think they'd flush out his character by now. 

He's worse with the "my final". That annoys me way more than it should and when the cast refers to it as TJ's final. When he designs a final and successfully runs it then he can call it "my final".

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

The casuals would have heart attack about it lol Have you seen how the casuals of the bachelor franchise are acting over Chris Harrison not being their host next season but instead having 2 past bachelorettes. Casuals love their TJ Lavin.

 

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

The casuals would have heart attack about it lol Have you seen how the casuals of the bachelor franchise are acting over Chris Harrison not being their host next season but instead having 2 past bachelorettes. Casuals love their TJ Lavin.

My son is the best

This is random but I have no idea who Josh is as a character.. he's been on several shows now and has had no personal growth moments or is shown having real conversations. He isn't relatable at all, I can't even tell what his personality is. He just goes around yelling and crying for every little thing..  if they were going to make him a regular, you'd think they'd flush out his character by now. 

I agree--maybe he just has no personal growth in real life though.  Josh to me is still a 6 year old

I have a nightmare feeling Tori is  going to make it super far on this season 

I have a nightmare feeling Tori is  going to make it super far on this season 

She better with all the butt kissing she's been doing.

Oh no the casuals are obsessed with TJ lmaooo he ain't going NOWHERE unless it's his choice to leave

 

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

The casuals would have heart attack about it lol Have you seen how the casuals of the bachelor franchise are acting over Chris Harrison not being their host next season but instead having 2 past bachelorettes. Casuals love their TJ Lavin.

well shit what won't they complain about 

 

 

we can talk cast up and down but let's really shake this shit up, when are we finally getting rid of TJ. because it's time 

The casuals would have heart attack about it lol Have you seen how the casuals of the bachelor franchise are acting over Chris Harrison not being their host next season but instead having 2 past bachelorettes. Casuals love their TJ Lavin.

My son is the best

Lol ok

Wasn't it said that TJ really liked Gabby? I still see him sending messages to georgia on instagram saying he misses her lol. 

Their was someone on some site maybe it was here but tj was literally on live and said jay would do well on survivor like he hadn't already done it.... the fact that he doesn't even know what show jay comes from or any contestant is sad for a host

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