ambers win is about to be even more discredited now. i have no time for this. i would've been just fine with kam winning and amber getting second.
and people gonna drag her for it, like she didn't ask for production to rig for her. Blame CT and production not Amber
Blame CT win he finished the puzzle before everybody lmao. I'm sorry but no. Without that, they wouldn't have anything to "switch" if it did happen. Out of CT and Amber, CT isn't the one who skated through half a million dollars. His solo performance is what it should have been
I don't know if this proves she skated. Like if there were 7 stages in the final,and she only struggled on 1 stage,but crushed the other 6,and she and her partner had the best team time,then she earned her win.
Do we need to list all the times production allegedly rigged things? This isn't new, surprising, shocking or anything. It's typical. It's like being mad the sky is blue.
Look at what Tori said regarding, "timed challenges". They want to bring stop watches but production never lets them. Why is that?
"Lolo is 100% validated, I always thought it was weird production never allowed us to bring our own time stop watches or they cover up all the clocks. Theres def shady stuff happening behind the scenes"
They haven't had stopwatches since Sexes 2 I believe--why? because it may not be accurate if they don't start it at the exact rigth time causing nonese
Lolo always claims manipulation
This is literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen people upset about here--stuff we've know about since The Gauntelt
You're right, Gamer is lying and you kvm are right about everything as always.
Where did I mention Gamer? Gamer talked ONLY about the puzzle portion and that information comes second hand and could turn out to be inaccurate. Never said gamer made up anything. You continue not to read
And AGAIN the point is if it was manipulated so what as that's been happening since the beginning
What information comes second hand?! All the information the spoiler people get is second hand you dumb ***.
Gamer said the rules were initially the FIRST TEAM TO FINISH IS 1st place not FIRST PERSON. CT got 1st, Amber finished last. They should have gotten LAST for that portion. Cory and Kam finished 1st AS A TEAM.
Then after the fact they changed it to "First person to finish".
You continue not to read
You cannot have rules start as one thing before the puzzle starts and change the rules AFTER THE FACT.
Gamer wasn't there hence second hand--do you need a definition since you pretend others do?
And "for that portion" doesnt mean it changes the final outcome even if true.
You realize all people that do spoilers are wrong sometimes, yes?
youre right about everything kvm, you know more than PR, gamer, and jay. we dont need spoilers with their second hand information we have you who is smarter than everyone
youre right about everything kvm, you know more than PR, gamer, and jay. we dont need spoilers with their second hand information we have you who is smarter than everyone
What did I miss why everyone in shambles lmaooo. Not 138 new comments
Gamer said they changed the rules to the puzzle portion of the challenge to benefit CT/Amber so now people think that means the entire final was determined by a puzzle and this is new and has never happened before on the challenge?
The only way production can make up for this is if the final had six or more stages and the times were added throughout the whole final so that wasn't the result that ended up costing kam and cory the whole thing
What did I miss why everyone in shambles lmaooo. Not 138 new comments
Gamer said they changed the rules to the puzzle portion of the challenge to benefit CT/Amber so now people think that means the entire final was determined by a puzzle and this is new and has never happened before on the challenge?
so even if it turns out when we watch it the puzzle DID determine who would win
you would just say, "oh they always rig the challenge"
covering yourself bc you know the puzzle determined it, shocker
What did I miss why everyone in shambles lmaooo. Not 138 new comments
Gamer said they changed the rules to the puzzle portion of the challenge to benefit CT/Amber so now people think that means the entire final was determined by a puzzle and this is new and has never happened before on the challenge?
so even if it turns out when we watch it the puzzle DID determine who would win
you would just say, "oh they always rig the challenge"
covering yourself bc you know the puzzle determined it, shocker
This is like the believe that believe one wrong call in sports determines the outcome of the game--you had the entire rest of the event to overcome
And there's nothing to cover. I still have never said gamer was wrong but you refuse to read
gamer: "It’s possible - I’m just letting you know the instructions that were told to the teams during the final..."
but according to kvm, gamer is just making this all up. totally inaccurate what they are saying.
KVM saying that Gamer is lying is so disrespectful.
Never said gamer is lying--you really can't read can you. Also, read the first two words
"It's possible" is referring to a question someone had about whether the times were combined. Two different topics if you actually looked at the tweet they are quoting instead of looking to me for second hand information.
ambers win is about to be even more discredited now. i have no time for this. i would've been just fine with kam winning and amber getting second.
and people gonna drag her for it, like she didn't ask for production to rig for her. Blame CT and production not Amber
Blame CT win he finished the puzzle before everybody lmao. I'm sorry but no. Without that, they wouldn't have anything to "switch" if it did happen. Out of CT and Amber, CT isn't the one who skated through half a million dollars. His solo performance is what it should have been
I don't know if this proves she skated. Like if there were 7 stages in the final,and she only struggled on 1 stage,but crushed the other 6,and she and her partner had the best team time,then she earned her win.
I mean, CT won that first daily fair and square. He won against Nam fair and square. He won the first round of the relic fair and square. He almost won the daily before last. He finished the puzzle before everybody. His perfomance has been what it needed to be so far, but they still saying he "skated". So, I think it could be applicable to Amber lol.
I do believe in waiting to see how everything unfolds though. To those feeling sad, CT did try to take Kam to the final with him lol. He tried to make it happen.
What did I miss why everyone in shambles lmaooo. Not 138 new comments
Gamer said they changed the rules to the puzzle portion of the challenge to benefit CT/Amber so now people think that means the entire final was determined by a puzzle and this is new and has never happened before on the challenge?
Wow ok thanks. Now the reaction makes sense. Yeah they just rigged final reckoning for Ashley so I don't expect anything less from production
What did I miss why everyone in shambles lmaooo. Not 138 new comments
Gamer said they changed the rules to the puzzle portion of the challenge to benefit CT/Amber so now people think that means the entire final was determined by a puzzle and this is new and has never happened before on the challenge?
so even if it turns out when we watch it the puzzle DID determine who would win
you would just say, "oh they always rig the challenge"
covering yourself bc you know the puzzle determined it, shocker
This is like the believe that believe one wrong call in sports determines the outcome of the game--you had the entire rest of the event to overcome
And there's nothing to cover. I still have never said gamer was wrong but you refuse to read
so you're not questioning the validity of gamer's tweets? you didn't say it could turn out to be inaccurate?
you can play semantics all you want, you're on the wrong side of this
gamer: "It’s possible - I’m just letting you know the instructions that were told to the teams during the final..."
but according to kvm, gamer is just making this all up. totally inaccurate what they are saying.
KVM saying that Gamer is lying is so disrespectful.
Never said gamer is lying--you really can't read can you. Also, read the first two words
"It's possible" is referring to a question someone had about whether the times were combined. Two different topics if you actually looked at the tweet they are quoting instead of looking to me for second hand information.
You're looking dumber by the minute.
Correct that's what impossible means--I saw it. Do you know what that means? Notice "just letting you know". How long have you been around her with gamer? I know gamer and what gamer means better than you understand.
What did I miss why everyone in shambles lmaooo. Not 138 new comments
Gamer said they changed the rules to the puzzle portion of the challenge to benefit CT/Amber so now people think that means the entire final was determined by a puzzle and this is new and has never happened before on the challenge?
Wow ok thanks. Now the reaction makes sense. Yeah they just rigged final reckoning for Ashley so I don't expect anything less from production
Exactly. I don't know why people are acting like this is shocking or even noteworthy lol
The possible rigging isn't surprising. Kam and Cory have also had some suspect moments. Theresa spilled that this is an entertainment show and certain people are used as characters to fit a storyline. (i.e. being the girl who always comes up short)
as I saw one producer say, "reality tv is too expensive to just hope that moments will happen and storylines will naturally fall into place." I do believe with this show, skeletal storylines are made beforehand and then filled in as filming goes on
gamer: "It’s possible - I’m just letting you know the instructions that were told to the teams during the final..."
but according to kvm, gamer is just making this all up. totally inaccurate what they are saying.
KVM saying that Gamer is lying is so disrespectful.
Never said gamer is lying--you really can't read can you. Also, read the first two words
"It's possible" is referring to a question someone had about whether the times were combined. Two different topics if you actually looked at the tweet they are quoting instead of looking to me for second hand information.
You're looking dumber by the minute.
Correct that's what impossible means--I saw it. Do you know what that means? Notice "just letting you know". How long have you been around her with gamer? I know gamer and what gamer means better than you understand.
PR said they didn't ask the source certain questions about the puzzle, Gamer is saying they DID ask certain questions and they got answers. Have you even looked at the tweet in question? The instructions that were initially given were not, "combined times".
You should really not listen to second hand information from me about gamer. You should know better than that.
And one you see the final you'll just say, "they always rig the challenge" and pretend you didnt' argue about this. Keep covering your bases, you're very good at not having a strong opinion on anything.
What did I miss why everyone in shambles lmaooo. Not 138 new comments
Gamer said they changed the rules to the puzzle portion of the challenge to benefit CT/Amber so now people think that means the entire final was determined by a puzzle and this is new and has never happened before on the challenge?
Wow ok thanks. Now the reaction makes sense. Yeah they just rigged final reckoning for Ashley so I don't expect anything less from production
Exactly. I don't know why people are acting like this is shocking or even noteworthy lol
They aren't shocked, they are just mad because CT won again. They are completely ignoring that out of the two, he doesn't need help. Even with the CT vs Wes, CT felt he could take Wes, and I wouldn't doubt it. And that there is a reason why castmates are more salty towards Amber than anybody else. Essentially, whoever was attatched to CT in the end was gonna win. Atleast if it was him and Kam, there wouldn't be a need for an intervention, which is something others are ignoring as well.
But I am not ready to call it unless Kam does, because if anybody truly lost out its her. She was very close in many ways and honestly, if production did that to her, it almost seems vengeful. Because CT realized his mistake of not choosing Kam, so much so he goes back to being partnered with her. CT would have had a better season if it wasn't for Kam and Lee trying to block his skull out of retaliation (they admitted to it). Obviously, he got over it and learned his lesson then Cory unfortunate behind gets her (and people think that was set up), so for production to do her like that (if they did), and then out of all people its still CT she loses too...ouch.Talk about a bitter pill. Yeah, if this was rigged, she def speaking on it
But I still think people should be hating the game, not the players for this final. Especially when 1/2 did his part and AT FIRST it seemed Amber was doing good herself
Please say it's because they're black when a black person won and Cory doesn't think he's black
what do you know about me caring just now or not? Sick in the head
Was this English?
I'm 22 and I speak/write 4 languages. What can you speak/write besides english and stupidity?
I love a quadrilingual twin ❤️❤️
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im so jealous of non Americans, I lived in Germany for 18 months and outside of Germany like Slovenia, portugal or Belgium and Netherlands they could all speak at least 4 languages before u could graduate.. I wish we did that
you understood it perfectly, oldie. Now move
I don't know if this proves she skated. Like if there were 7 stages in the final,and she only struggled on 1 stage,but crushed the other 6,and she and her partner had the best team time,then she earned her win.
If I understood it I would answer it--but if you want to move on that's fine
Do we need to list all the times production allegedly rigged things? This isn't new, surprising, shocking or anything. It's typical. It's like being mad the sky is blue.
youre right about everything kvm, you know more than PR, gamer, and jay. we dont need spoilers with their second hand information we have you who is smarter than everyone
What did I miss why everyone in shambles lmaooo. Not 138 new comments
Again--you're still missing the point per usual
I love a quadrilingual twin ❤️❤️
gamer: "It’s possible - I’m just letting you know the instructions that were told to the teams during the final..."
but according to kvm, gamer is just making this all up. totally inaccurate what they are saying.
KVM saying that Gamer is lying is so disrespectful.
Gamer said they changed the rules to the puzzle portion of the challenge to benefit CT/Amber so now people think that means the entire final was determined by a puzzle and this is new and has never happened before on the challenge?
The only way production can make up for this is if the final had six or more stages and the times were added throughout the whole final so that wasn't the result that ended up costing kam and cory the whole thing
so even if it turns out when we watch it the puzzle DID determine who would win
you would just say, "oh they always rig the challenge"
covering yourself bc you know the puzzle determined it, shocker
Never said gamer is lying--you really can't read can you. Also, read the first two words
So Lolo kept up her 2 tweets BUT deleted the one about Big T/CT cheating on the challenge.
This is like the believe that believe one wrong call in sports determines the outcome of the game--you had the entire rest of the event to overcome
And there's nothing to cover. I still have never said gamer was wrong but you refuse to read
"It's possible" is referring to a question someone had about whether the times were combined. Two different topics if you actually looked at the tweet they are quoting instead of looking to me for second hand information.
You're looking dumber by the minute.
I mean, CT won that first daily fair and square. He won against Nam fair and square. He won the first round of the relic fair and square. He almost won the daily before last. He finished the puzzle before everybody. His perfomance has been what it needed to be so far, but they still saying he "skated". So, I think it could be applicable to Amber lol.
I do believe in waiting to see how everything unfolds though. To those feeling sad, CT did try to take Kam to the final with him lol. He tried to make it happen.
Wow ok thanks. Now the reaction makes sense. Yeah they just rigged final reckoning for Ashley so I don't expect anything less from production
so you're not questioning the validity of gamer's tweets? you didn't say it could turn out to be inaccurate?
you can play semantics all you want, you're on the wrong side of this
Correct that's what impossible means--I saw it. Do you know what that means? Notice "just letting you know". How long have you been around her with gamer? I know gamer and what gamer means better than you understand.
Why didn't they just make the pairs do every checkpoint together. Individual puzzles for a pair challenge is stupid and confuses everything.
Exactly. I don't know why people are acting like this is shocking or even noteworthy lol
So very true
The possible rigging isn't surprising. Kam and Cory have also had some suspect moments. Theresa spilled that this is an entertainment show and certain people are used as characters to fit a storyline. (i.e. being the girl who always comes up short)
as I saw one producer say, "reality tv is too expensive to just hope that moments will happen and storylines will naturally fall into place." I do believe with this show, skeletal storylines are made beforehand and then filled in as filming goes on
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PR said they didn't ask the source certain questions about the puzzle, Gamer is saying they DID ask certain questions and they got answers. Have you even looked at the tweet in question? The instructions that were initially given were not, "combined times".
You should really not listen to second hand information from me about gamer. You should know better than that.
And one you see the final you'll just say, "they always rig the challenge" and pretend you didnt' argue about this. Keep covering your bases, you're very good at not having a strong opinion on anything.
They aren't shocked, they are just mad because CT won again. They are completely ignoring that out of the two, he doesn't need help. Even with the CT vs Wes, CT felt he could take Wes, and I wouldn't doubt it. And that there is a reason why castmates are more salty towards Amber than anybody else. Essentially, whoever was attatched to CT in the end was gonna win. Atleast if it was him and Kam, there wouldn't be a need for an intervention, which is something others are ignoring as well.
But I am not ready to call it unless Kam does, because if anybody truly lost out its her. She was very close in many ways and honestly, if production did that to her, it almost seems vengeful. Because CT realized his mistake of not choosing Kam, so much so he goes back to being partnered with her. CT would have had a better season if it wasn't for Kam and Lee trying to block his skull out of retaliation (they admitted to it). Obviously, he got over it and learned his lesson then Cory unfortunate behind gets her (and people think that was set up), so for production to do her like that (if they did), and then out of all people its still CT she loses too...ouch.Talk about a bitter pill. Yeah, if this was rigged, she def speaking on it
But I still think people should be hating the game, not the players for this final. Especially when 1/2 did his part and AT FIRST it seemed Amber was doing good herself
omg make it stop
im so jealous of non Americans, I lived in Germany for 18 months and outside of Germany like Slovenia, portugal or Belgium and Netherlands they could all speak at least 4 languages before u could graduate.. I wish we did that
If this rigging is true it's confusing.
I think Cory and Kam would be more popular winners than CT & Amber
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