Mark Long retired on 3 occasions before Jemmeye's first season.
And I don't think BMP understands that a lot of the old school fans don't want this bullshit thirsty 15 minutes of fame drama with this season. I'm fine with drama, not this crap that people like Jemmeye bring.
A lot of the casuals (the majority) are still crying about not knowing a lot of these people under the comments. They though they were getting Paula, Kenny, Evan, Zach, Jenna, Bananas lol
Those same casuals would be stunned if they found out what the ratings for this show used to be back in the day and why the old fans want to see the old people again.
Smh this flawed argument again, of course ratings were better then, ratings in general were way better than they are now, do people really not get this?
Yeah I understand that about a lot of things, however if The Challenge was getting the ratings it did back in 2003, it would literally be the biggest show on cable TV that wasn't football. The second to last episode of The Inferno did 4.55 million viewers, so I'd have to assume the finale did even more than that. The cast of today doesn't even come close that the cast of the old years used to have in pop culture relevance. Hence why I don't want to see people like Jemmeye on when there were actual old school people available.
Ratings in general are obviously down but it also prob has to due with real world not on anymore and getting people we actually know.
You guys sound like wrestling fans debating about ratings
I don't even watch the challenge through cable.....there's streaming apps for everything nowadays. I don't even think MTV cares about ratings the way fans do.
Imagine comparing ratings from the early 2000s to the ones of mid 2010s to now. There is a lot of different streaming services hence they are using "Live+3" metrics now days. Plus, the challenge is always on the top of cable thanks to the great numbers it pulls on the demo.
Derrick K is overrated hit me up when he finally wins one without a team
Derrick's a great competitor. He's arguably the dumbest person to be on the show before Cory showed up so he's not going to win an individual season if there's a puzzle. See XXX but the man doesn't quit. Ever.
Derrick is great but he's at number 10 for me possibly outside the top 10 ive seen so many lists with him in the top 5 which I think is insane
Yeah, definitely not top 5 ever (Landon, Alton, Darrell, sadly Jordan are all obvious without getting into JEK and the rest of the golden era)
Im starting to think Darrell is a little overrated, I have been watching so,e old seasons and I think Evan has to be up there since he dominated the challenges, he was just as good as CT on duel 1.
I dont think he's helped himself since The Ruins. He's like 7th in my rankings. If Wes had won WOTW1 or Exes 2 or if Alton had won BOTS2012 I'd have both ahead of him.
Pink, do you know if the first elimination has happened yet? The reason I ask is I noticed Gamer tweeted that _________ has some people pressed so idk if people who want to remain unspoiled should dip yet or not?
Kendal? Beauty + Kidness creates extreme jealousy. Beth dragging Jembred into retirement would be ideal, but I'd be just as happy to see Kendal do the job.
I just hope Beth comes back and has all the girls pressed once again. I get the feeling we're gonna see a lot more drama from the older women on this than we'd expect lol
I just hope Beth comes back and has all the girls pressed once again. I get the feeling we're gonna see a lot more drama from the older women on this than we'd expect lol
The game basically started during quarantining and I heard there was some weird tension on the girls side. Who knows if anything happens during filming since it usually sounds way better on paper than what we get lol
Kendal having them pressed makes sense, you can tell she was pregamming hardcore. She literally was following everyone and liking all their post. She put in more work in pregamming than most of these new players put into an entire season. Queen.
Looking at the cast I think the girls are going to be divide it. I see Jemmye working with Katie and Trishelle since she is a crazy super fan always wanted her mean girls clique.
Jisela & Aneesa
Kendal , Kellyanne & Jonna they seem to have similar interest.
Ratings in general are obviously down but it also prob has to due with real world not on anymore and getting people we actually know.
When are you guys going to realize ratings don't mean shit lol it's just an outdated metric
Another reason Veronica is nothing but a pathetic hag with a tarnished reputation. Beth is already winning and we love to see it.
You guys sound like wrestling fans debating about ratings
I don't even watch the challenge through cable.....there's streaming apps for everything nowadays. I don't even think MTV cares about ratings the way fans do.
Imagine comparing ratings from the early 2000s to the ones of mid 2010s to now. There is a lot of different streaming services hence they are using "Live+3" metrics now days. Plus, the challenge is always on the top of cable thanks to the great numbers it pulls on the demo.
I dont think he's helped himself since The Ruins. He's like 7th in my rankings. If Wes had won WOTW1 or Exes 2 or if Alton had won BOTS2012 I'd have both ahead of him.
Mark originally pitched this series as a show that DID NOT have eliminatons / people leaving. Do we have any confirmation that is still true?
Y'all really trying to compare ratings from 20 years ago please don't talk about something you dont understand
Pink, do you know if the first elimination has happened yet? The reason I ask is I noticed Gamer tweeted that _________ has some people pressed so idk if people who want to remain unspoiled should dip yet or not?
So apparently from what gamer said Kendal has people pressed already ( queen shit )
omg she's giving me Theresa energy. I have no choice but to stan
Oop maybe Kendal was the one Pink mentioned had a target on their back. Lol
i wouldn't be shocked...
Kendal? Beauty + Kidness creates extreme jealousy. Beth dragging Jembred into retirement would be ideal, but I'd be just as happy to see Kendal do the job.
The last person Jonna followed was Kendal. I can see those 2 liking each other for some reason.
lol besides Coral thankfully none of them are on here
Veronica is still one of the queens of this show - haters gonna hate <3
I do hope Beth takes out Jemmye though!
I just hope Beth comes back and has all the girls pressed once again. I get the feeling we're gonna see a lot more drama from the older women on this than we'd expect lol
The game basically started during quarantining and I heard there was some weird tension on the girls side. Who knows if anything happens during filming since it usually sounds way better on paper than what we get lol
Kendal having them pressed makes sense, you can tell she was pregamming hardcore. She literally was following everyone and liking all their post. She put in more work in pregamming than most of these new players put into an entire season. Queen.
I was referring to some one else
i could see them having lots of mouth pre game then when the cameras are on doing nothing except Jemmye because she has no shame lmao
I see Trishelle and Katie going back to their old ways even Beth
Does anyone know who all is single on the cast
Okay, I will be exiting this thread to avoid spoilers for the season. I will probably revisit when the trailer drops!
All of this sounds really promising! Lol
Yeah, Pink should I do the same? Do you think eliminatins are gonna happen soon?
Looking at the cast I think the girls are going to be divide it. I see Jemmye working with Katie and Trishelle since she is a crazy super fan always wanted her mean girls clique.
Jisela & Aneesa
Kendal , Kellyanne & Jonna they seem to have similar interest.
Then Ruthie and Arissa in the middle.
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