This liability stuff is BS when John has been able to be on the Challenge for years. Honestly MTV is just a braindead, dying network anyway so I'm not surprised they are run so poorly.
maybe her harness will break during a heights challenge this season lmao
let's hope not - no one deserves to die while on a reality show
lol i don't want her to die.
but you do know Veronica is the reason Rachel's name gets drug right? Rachel and tonya got along really well.. Veronica being so vile to Tonya and Rachel being attacvued to Veronica is why Rachel's name is going to get drug through the dirt
I don't see how either of them will get dragged through the dirt...it's not like they got great edits back in the day - they were the villains from like Inferno-Inferno 2 lol - it's all been out there forever and is old news. Rachel def grew when we saw her last and has made a career forherself. I don't see a TMZ article doing much to them since it's nothing new and it was all very public back in the day. Just my opinion on the matter - lol
Yeah, but sexual assault isn't a deal breaker for you and KVM for most sane people it is.
maybe her harness will break during a heights challenge this season lmao
let's hope not - no one deserves to die while on a reality show
lol i don't want her to die.
but you do know Veronica is the reason Rachel's name gets drug right? Rachel and tonya got along really well.. Veronica being so vile to Tonya and Rachel being attacvued to Veronica is why Rachel's name is going to get drug through the dirt
I don't see how either of them will get dragged through the dirt...it's not like they got great edits back in the day - they were the villains from like Inferno-Inferno 2 lol - it's all been out there forever and is old news. Rachel def grew when we saw her last and has made a career forherself. I don't see a TMZ article doing much to them since it's nothing new and it was all very public back in the day. Just my opinion on the matter - lol
Yeah, but sexual assault isn't a deal breaker for you and KVM for most sane people it is.
maybe her harness will break during a heights challenge this season lmao
let's hope not - no one deserves to die while on a reality show
lol i don't want her to die.
but you do know Veronica is the reason Rachel's name gets drug right? Rachel and tonya got along really well.. Veronica being so vile to Tonya and Rachel being attacvued to Veronica is why Rachel's name is going to get drug through the dirt
I don't see how either of them will get dragged through the dirt...it's not like they got great edits back in the day - they were the villains from like Inferno-Inferno 2 lol - it's all been out there forever and is old news. Rachel def grew when we saw her last and has made a career forherself. I don't see a TMZ article doing much to them since it's nothing new and it was all very public back in the day. Just my opinion on the matter - lol
Yeah, but sexual assault isn't a deal breaker for you and KVM for most sane people it is.
Excuse me? I never once said that so please don't put words in my mouth. I never once said what they did was ok or right, and they should have been repremanded for that back in the day and instead were just filmed. No one, not even those that have posed nude, should be able to have pictures of them naked being taken and showed to others agains their will. Like I said, though, in replying to someone elses comment, this all was public information and out there for years - it's not a new scandal and has been public knowledge so the idea of Rachel being dragged for it over 15 years later doesn't seem likely.
CT/Bananas/Wes are more OG than KellyAnne, Jasmine and Big Easy. Can we agree on that?
Actually Big Easy is more OG than Johnny since his debut was on Fresh Meat and Johnny was on the Duel. I could care less about who's OG if it prevents those 3 from being on this show.
- Aneesa Ferreira (The Real World: Chicago)--current season but definitely an OG
- Arissa Hill (The Real World: Las Vegas 2002)--Battle of the Sexes 2--16 years by the time this films definitely an OG
- Katie Doyle (Road Rules: The Quest)--Cutthroat--10 years--definitely an OG
- Kellyanne Judd (The Real World: Sydney)--Rivals III--5 years--not an OG/not ideal casting but...
- Ruthie Alcaide (The Real World: Hawaii)--Duel 2--12 years--definitely an OG
- Trishelle Cannatella (The Real World: Las Vegas 2002)--Rivals 2--8 years--definitely an OG
Guys
- Ace Amerson (The Real World: Paris)--Gauntlet 3--13 years--definitely an OG
- Brad Fiorenza (The Real World: San Diego)--Final Reckoning--2/3 years--definitely an OG
- Derrick Kosinski (Road Rules: X-treme)--XXX--4 years--definitely an OG
- Eric "Big Easy" Banks (The Challenge: Fresh Meat)--Seasons--9 years--not an OG but boarderline
- Mark Long (Road Rules: First Adventure)--Exes--9 years--the original OG
- Nehemiah Clark (Real World: Austin)--Rivals--10 years--not an OG but borderline
- Syrus Yarbrough (The Real World: Boston)--The Ruins--11 years--definitely an OG
- Yes Duffy (Road Rules: Semester at Sea)--Sexes--13 years--definitely an OG
There's not really much to complain about right now--anyone complaining about anyone other than Nehemiah, Easy and KellyAnne is just *****ing to *****.
CT/Bananas/Wes are more OG than KellyAnne, Jasmine and Big Easy. Can we agree on that?
CT/Wes/Big Easy technically more OG then KellyAnne, Jasmine, and Bananas (Bananans didn't appear on the show till after Fresh Meat) lol Still would like to see none of them on this lol But if we get some solid OG's I can't complain too much
In all seriousness, the most likely scenerio: V isnt scarred about Julie becauae of that incident. Julie probably pregamed and went for V's neck and Veronica got scarred and complained to production. They didnt want to risk two girls (with Jasmine almost three) getting dropped this close with all the quarantines and not having many alternatives and just accepted her push.
- Aneesa Ferreira (The Real World: Chicago)--current season but definitely an OG
- Arissa Hill (The Real World: Las Vegas 2002)--Battle of the Sexes 2--16 years by the time this films definitely an OG
- Katie Doyle (Road Rules: The Quest)--Cutthroat--10 years--definitely an OG
- Kellyanne Judd (The Real World: Sydney)--Rivals III--5 years--not an OG/not ideal casting but...
- Ruthie Alcaide (The Real World: Hawaii)--Duel 2--12 years--definitely an OG
- Trishelle Cannatella (The Real World: Las Vegas 2002)--Rivals 2--8 years--definitely an OG
Guys
- Ace Amerson (The Real World: Paris)--Gauntlet 3--13 years--definitely an OG
- Brad Fiorenza (The Real World: San Diego)--Final Reckoning--2/3 years--definitely an OG
- Derrick Kosinski (Road Rules: X-treme)--XXX--4 years--definitely an OG
- Eric "Big Easy" Banks (The Challenge: Fresh Meat)--Seasons--9 years--not an OG but boarderline
- Mark Long (Road Rules: First Adventure)--Exes--9 years--the original OG
- Nehemiah Clark (Real World: Austin)--Rivals--10 years--not an OG but borderline
- Syrus Yarbrough (The Real World: Boston)--The Ruins--11 years--definitely an OG
- Yes Duffy (Road Rules: Semester at Sea)--Sexes--13 years--definitely an OG
There's not really much to complain about right now--anyone complaining about anyone other than Nehemiah, Easy and KellyAnne is just *****ing to *****.
That's Vevmo for you. Idk how many people start out stanning a certain person then turn on them after watching them during a season.
- Aneesa Ferreira (The Real World: Chicago)--current season but definitely an OG
- Arissa Hill (The Real World: Las Vegas 2002)--Battle of the Sexes 2--16 years by the time this films definitely an OG
- Katie Doyle (Road Rules: The Quest)--Cutthroat--10 years--definitely an OG
- Kellyanne Judd (The Real World: Sydney)--Rivals III--5 years--not an OG/not ideal casting but...
- Ruthie Alcaide (The Real World: Hawaii)--Duel 2--12 years--definitely an OG
- Trishelle Cannatella (The Real World: Las Vegas 2002)--Rivals 2--8 years--definitely an OG
Guys
- Ace Amerson (The Real World: Paris)--Gauntlet 3--13 years--definitely an OG
- Brad Fiorenza (The Real World: San Diego)--Final Reckoning--2/3 years--definitely an OG
- Derrick Kosinski (Road Rules: X-treme)--XXX--4 years--definitely an OG
- Eric "Big Easy" Banks (The Challenge: Fresh Meat)--Seasons--9 years--not an OG but boarderline
- Mark Long (Road Rules: First Adventure)--Exes--9 years--the original OG
- Nehemiah Clark (Real World: Austin)--Rivals--10 years--not an OG but borderline
- Syrus Yarbrough (The Real World: Boston)--The Ruins--11 years--definitely an OG
- Yes Duffy (Road Rules: Semester at Sea)--Sexes--13 years--definitely an OG
There's not really much to complain about right now--anyone complaining about anyone other than Nehemiah, Easy and KellyAnne is just *****ing to *****.
If you weren't on RW or RR your name shouldn't even be in any OG discussion.
Yep and only Easy fits that. I don't see why people complain about KellyAnne and Nehemiah when they were casted on a show that doesn't even exist anymore. The show was still called The Real World/Road Rules Challenge when they made their debuts. It's not like they're pulling from AYTO or other crap like that. And yeah the cast isn't ideal OG, but again what can we expect during a pandemic ?
Mark wanted to create a show about people that cant do a long season. When you say Aneesa, Brad and Derrick did a show within the last two years. That is something Mark wasnt thinking when he pitched this. Is it really that hard to understand this critique?
If you weren't on RW or RR your name shouldn't even be in any OG discussion.
I think 90% of us agree with that in theory but we have to accept that it doesn't matter what we think. We should be happy with what we have so far and hopefully it improves over the next few days. Easy may be an alternate (God can only hope) and same with KellyAnne.
We also have to be realistic about the culture and why Nehemiah and Jasmine probably got calls. If Alton says no is Syrus going to be the only black guy? Nehemiah makes a lot of sense.
Mark wanted to create a show about people that cant do a long season. When you say Aneesa, Brad and Derrick did a show within the last two years. That is something Mark wasnt thinking when he pitched this. Is it really that hard to understand this critique?
But Mark's idea was on the start of the project. We knew it was going to change. Also, pretty sure he reached out to Derrick and Brad when he started this.
In a perfect world we'd have something like Eric Nies, Mark Long, Syrus Yarbrough, Theo Von, Dan Setzler, Landon Lueck, Karamo Brown, Shane Landrum, Dan Renzi, Alton Williams, Coral Smith, Holly Shand, Emily Bailey, Rachel Robinson, Tina Barta, Jodi Weatherton, Ruthie Alcaide, Susie Meister, Cara Zavaleta and Irulan Wilson but we can't get greedy. And I just rambled 20 names so don't read too much into that lol
Mark wanted to create a show about people that cant do a long season. When you say Aneesa, Brad and Derrick did a show within the last two years. That is something Mark wasnt thinking when he pitched this. Is it really that hard to understand this critique?
But Mark's idea was on the start of the project. We knew it was going to change. Also, pretty sure he reached out to Derrick and Brad when he started this.
In a perfect world we'd have something like Eric Nies, Mark Long, Syrus Yarbrough, Theo Von, Dan Setzler, Landon Lueck, Karamo Brown, Shane Landrum, Dan Renzi, Alton Williams, Coral Smith, Holly Shand, Emily Bailey, Rachel Robinson, Tina Barta, Jodi Weatherton, Ruthie Alcaide, Susie Meister, Cara Zavaleta and Irulan Wilson but we can't get greedy. And I just rambled 20 names so don't read too much into that lol
We can be happy about the overall cast and still ***** and debate about the ones we don't want, it's all part of the preseason fun. Eric's name highly annoyed me, but Julie being cut for being a liability is the first thing that has made me pissed lol.
I like the cast so far and I'm excited for some surprises to come. Possibly coral/Beth is to look forward for. Only person I don't like is kellyanne because I find her super wack and she's not really an og but it's fine keep it pushin
We can be happy about the overall cast and still ***** and debate about the ones we don't want, it's all part of the preseason fun. Eric's name highly annoyed me, but Julie being cut for being a liability is the first thing that has made me pissed lol.
We can be happy about the overall cast and still ***** and debate about the ones we don't want, it's all part of the preseason fun. Eric's name highly annoyed me, but Julie being cut for being a liability is the first thing that has made me pissed lol.
That's me too. Also glad Jasmine backed out. She debut on Rivals, definitely not an OG.
It's fine to criticize but you can't seriously look at the speculation cast and honestly say "Yeah I'd rather see CT, Bananas, Wes." That kind of stuff is exactly why MTV doesn't give us what we want.
We can be happy about the overall cast and still ***** and debate about the ones we don't want, it's all part of the preseason fun. Eric's name highly annoyed me, but Julie being cut for being a liability is the first thing that has made me pissed lol.
We agree on both but attacking Veronica or to those saying we might as welll just have Wes, John and CT it doesn't make sense.
Hopefully production gets Veronica and Coral on this season and they told Julie she'll be on the second season. I'd love to see Julie but Julie's doing just fine in life--she doesn't need this at all. I'm sure she's okay.
Mark wanted to create a show about people that cant do a long season. When you say Aneesa, Brad and Derrick did a show within the last two years. That is something Mark wasnt thinking when he pitched this. Is it really that hard to understand this critique?
But Mark's idea was on the start of the project. We knew it was going to change. Also, pretty sure he reached out to Derrick and Brad when he started this.
In a perfect world we'd have something like Eric Nies, Mark Long, Syrus Yarbrough, Theo Von, Dan Setzler, Landon Lueck, Karamo Brown, Shane Landrum, Dan Renzi, Alton Williams, Coral Smith, Holly Shand, Emily Bailey, Rachel Robinson, Tina Barta, Jodi Weatherton, Ruthie Alcaide, Susie Meister, Cara Zavaleta and Irulan Wilson but we can't get greedy. And I just rambled 20 names so don't read too much into that lol
True there is not a perfecr world and I really dont blame prodcution as they cant force someone, just find it funny that this will end up the opposite of what he wanted to. All the big OG names not doing it and this ends up with people that most have seen pretty recently or should have no business in it. (So far). In a normal season, PR would say these are random choices.
This liability stuff is BS when John has been able to be on the Challenge for years. Honestly MTV is just a braindead, dying network anyway so I'm not surprised they are run so poorly.
Yeah, but sexual assault isn't a deal breaker for you and KVM for most sane people it is.
Typical vevmo. We can really discuss about every single detail.
lmao
CT/Bananas/Wes are more OG than KellyAnne, Jasmine and Big Easy. Can we agree on that?
V doesn't need karma. She's had a really rough life and is lacking happiness. She needs a good therapist and a lot of selfwork.
Excuse me? I never once said that so please don't put words in my mouth. I never once said what they did was ok or right, and they should have been repremanded for that back in the day and instead were just filmed. No one, not even those that have posed nude, should be able to have pictures of them naked being taken and showed to others agains their will. Like I said, though, in replying to someone elses comment, this all was public information and out there for years - it's not a new scandal and has been public knowledge so the idea of Rachel being dragged for it over 15 years later doesn't seem likely.
Actually Big Easy is more OG than Johnny since his debut was on Fresh Meat and Johnny was on the Duel. I could care less about who's OG if it prevents those 3 from being on this show.
So far evaluation
Girls
- Aneesa Ferreira (The Real World: Chicago)--current season but definitely an OG
- Arissa Hill (The Real World: Las Vegas 2002)--Battle of the Sexes 2--16 years by the time this films definitely an OG
- Katie Doyle (Road Rules: The Quest)--Cutthroat--10 years--definitely an OG
- Kellyanne Judd (The Real World: Sydney)--Rivals III--5 years--not an OG/not ideal casting but...
- Ruthie Alcaide (The Real World: Hawaii)--Duel 2--12 years--definitely an OG
- Trishelle Cannatella (The Real World: Las Vegas 2002)--Rivals 2--8 years--definitely an OG
Guys
- Ace Amerson (The Real World: Paris)--Gauntlet 3--13 years--definitely an OG
- Brad Fiorenza (The Real World: San Diego)--Final Reckoning--2/3 years--definitely an OG
- Derrick Kosinski (Road Rules: X-treme)--XXX--4 years--definitely an OG
- Eric "Big Easy" Banks (The Challenge: Fresh Meat)--Seasons--9 years--not an OG but boarderline
- Mark Long (Road Rules: First Adventure)--Exes--9 years--the original OG
- Nehemiah Clark (Real World: Austin)--Rivals--10 years--not an OG but borderline
- Syrus Yarbrough (The Real World: Boston)--The Ruins--11 years--definitely an OG
- Yes Duffy (Road Rules: Semester at Sea)--Sexes--13 years--definitely an OG
There's not really much to complain about right now--anyone complaining about anyone other than Nehemiah, Easy and KellyAnne is just *****ing to *****.
CT/Wes/Big Easy technically more OG then KellyAnne, Jasmine, and Bananas (Bananans didn't appear on the show till after Fresh Meat) lol Still would like to see none of them on this lol But if we get some solid OG's I can't complain too much
Yes--though Easy debuted with Wes so...
And John debuted after Easy...
In all seriousness, the most likely scenerio: V isnt scarred about Julie becauae of that incident. Julie probably pregamed and went for V's neck and Veronica got scarred and complained to production. They didnt want to risk two girls (with Jasmine almost three) getting dropped this close with all the quarantines and not having many alternatives and just accepted her push.
That's Vevmo for you. Idk how many people start out stanning a certain person then turn on them after watching them during a season.
If you weren't on RW or RR your name shouldn't even be in any OG discussion.
Ooops
Yep and only Easy fits that. I don't see why people complain about KellyAnne and Nehemiah when they were casted on a show that doesn't even exist anymore. The show was still called The Real World/Road Rules Challenge when they made their debuts. It's not like they're pulling from AYTO or other crap like that. And yeah the cast isn't ideal OG, but again what can we expect during a pandemic ?
agreed <3
Mark wanted to create a show about people that cant do a long season. When you say Aneesa, Brad and Derrick did a show within the last two years. That is something Mark wasnt thinking when he pitched this. Is it really that hard to understand this critique?
I think 90% of us agree with that in theory but we have to accept that it doesn't matter what we think. We should be happy with what we have so far and hopefully it improves over the next few days. Easy may be an alternate (God can only hope) and same with KellyAnne.
We also have to be realistic about the culture and why Nehemiah and Jasmine probably got calls. If Alton says no is Syrus going to be the only black guy? Nehemiah makes a lot of sense.
But Mark's idea was on the start of the project. We knew it was going to change. Also, pretty sure he reached out to Derrick and Brad when he started this.
In a perfect world we'd have something like Eric Nies, Mark Long, Syrus Yarbrough, Theo Von, Dan Setzler, Landon Lueck, Karamo Brown, Shane Landrum, Dan Renzi, Alton Williams, Coral Smith, Holly Shand, Emily Bailey, Rachel Robinson, Tina Barta, Jodi Weatherton, Ruthie Alcaide, Susie Meister, Cara Zavaleta and Irulan Wilson but we can't get greedy. And I just rambled 20 names so don't read too much into that lol
Agree
We can be happy about the overall cast and still ***** and debate about the ones we don't want, it's all part of the preseason fun. Eric's name highly annoyed me, but Julie being cut for being a liability is the first thing that has made me pissed lol.
I like the cast so far and I'm excited for some surprises to come. Possibly coral/Beth is to look forward for. Only person I don't like is kellyanne because I find her super wack and she's not really an og but it's fine keep it pushin
That's me too. Also glad Jasmine backed out. She debut on Rivals, definitely not an OG.
It's fine to criticize but you can't seriously look at the speculation cast and honestly say "Yeah I'd rather see CT, Bananas, Wes." That kind of stuff is exactly why MTV doesn't give us what we want.
We agree on both but attacking Veronica or to those saying we might as welll just have Wes, John and CT it doesn't make sense.
Hopefully production gets Veronica and Coral on this season and they told Julie she'll be on the second season. I'd love to see Julie but Julie's doing just fine in life--she doesn't need this at all. I'm sure she's okay.
True there is not a perfecr world and I really dont blame prodcution as they cant force someone, just find it funny that this will end up the opposite of what he wanted to. All the big OG names not doing it and this ends up with people that most have seen pretty recently or should have no business in it. (So far). In a normal season, PR would say these are random choices.
I don't care if Julie is cool with it, I'm pissed about it for me lol.
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