Whew why did I even engage in this conversation I know better
Thats enough politic talk for me but let's just rejoice one last time that in a matter of 48 hours or less T**** will no longer be in office and that can't be disputed with or without " evidence " of corruption
He's in office for 2 more months with a senate that appears red for Biden and a conservative SCOTUS. Enjoy the next 2 months and the fact Biden won't have the votes to stack the SCOTUS. Trump and the conservatives still won even in losing. And the election will go through the courts so while I belive Biden will take over we'll see.
Whew why did I even engage in this conversation I know better
Thats enough politic talk for me but let's just rejoice one last time that in a matter of 48 hours or less T**** will no longer be in office and that can't be disputed with or without " evidence " of corruption
He's in office for 2 more months with a senate that appears red for Biden and a conservative SCOTUS. Enjoy the next 2 months and the fact Biden won't have the votes to stack the SCOTUS. Trump and the conservatives still won even in losing. And the election will go through the courts so while I belive Biden will take over we'll see.
You done grandpa ?
Sticking with the insults because you don't like reality I see
Trump is racist and homophobic; voting for him shows that while you may not believe you're racist or homophobic, you don't think its a big enough deal that he is. Which makes you at best ignorant.
Because Biden hadn't proven over 47 years in office that he was racist? Stop rewriting history.
What makes Trump racist and homophobic? The fact he's a republican because nothing he's done, unlike Biden, supports your claims.
The **** do you mean nothing he's done, you do know who he picked as a vp right? literally the only thing most people know about pence is he's homophobic..... and trump gave that **** a platform
You think.Biden picked Harris? Really?
Check out her record in California. She's the problem not part of the solution. Did you miss when Gabbard ended her chances in 5 minutes?
Trump is racist and homophobic; voting for him shows that while you may not believe you're racist or homophobic, you don't think its a big enough deal that he is. Which makes you at best ignorant.
Because Biden hadn't proven over 47 years in office that he was racist? Stop rewriting history.
What makes Trump racist and homophobic? The fact he's a republican because nothing he's done, unlike Biden, supports your claims.
The **** do you mean nothing he's done, you do know who he picked as a vp right? literally the only thing most people know about pence is he's homophobic..... and trump gave that **** a platform
You think.Biden picked Harris? Really?
Check out her record in California. She's the problem not part of the solution. Did you miss when Gabbard ended her chances in 5 minutes?
When did i once mention Harris?
You're trying to claim that selecting Pence is somehow proof that Trump did something homophobic or racist but, if you believe that, then you need to believe the same about Biden since Harris is far worse and has the record to prove it. You're saying Pence is homophobic because of he believes in religious freedom--you know, per the constitution. Hardly homophobic. And, if that's the only thing most people know about Pence that's frightening considering it's wrong.
It's not wrong he's voted against same sex marriage countless times, he was strongly in favor of dont ask dont tell, he supported conversion therapy, the so called religious freedom is just saying i hate the gays and I'm blaming jesus for it. The law literally lets people deny anyone gay because they think its a sin, how is that not homophobic?
It's not wrong he's voted against same sex marriage countless times, he was strongly in favor of dont ask dont tell, he supported conversion therapy, the so called religious freedom is just saying i hate the gays and I'm blaming jesus for it. The law literally lets people deny anyone gay because they think its a sin, how is that not homophobic?
Because its their right per the constitution. Every law must be constitutional. If they don't want to serve someone based on religious beliefs they shouldn't be required too per the constitution. Constitution is the key here. And, honestly, why would anyone from the LGBTQ community want to buy from them? It shouldn't be an issue.
I'm not anti gay marriage. If people want to get married then allow them but not everyone has to agree with that. I don’t see the courts overturning that.
The conversion therapy is the only thing that could be considered homophobic but Biden fully supported that too back in the day. Didn't most people? Obviously its looks horrible now and was horrible then but things change. I dont believe Pence supported this "recently" but if I'm wrong about that then, yes, that's 100% unacceptable.
We realize politicians are supposed to vote how their people want them too, right? They're too represent the community.
Lol "not anti-gay marriage" but yet votes for someone trying to take that away from some of us. Again your morals are showing KVM.
There isn't a candidate alive that someone agrees with completely. No one ever vote if they had to agree with everything about them. You agree with Biden on everything?
Also starting to think you don't know what morals are...
Lol "not anti-gay marriage" but yet votes for someone trying to take that away from some of us. Again your morals are showing KVM.
There isn't a candidate alive that someone agrees with completely. No one ever vote if they had to agree with everything about them. You agree with Biden on everything?
Also starting to think you don't know what morals are...
I know what morals are. I am not dumb. Your Morals are trash and you should be shamed voted for a racist, homophobic, transphobic ******* who only cares about himself. Tragic.
Lol "not anti-gay marriage" but yet votes for someone trying to take that away from some of us. Again your morals are showing KVM.
There isn't a candidate alive that someone agrees with completely. No one ever vote if they had to agree with everything about them. You agree with Biden on everything?
Also starting to think you don't know what morals are...
I know what morals are. I am not dumb. Your Morals are trash and you should be shamed voted for a racist, homophobic, transphobic ******* who only cares about himself. Tragic.
Wait. How is this only caring about myself? You're the one claiming that my priorities should match your priorities. Thats not how politics work. No one should ever be ashamed of who they voted for. Your reaction here is my most stay quiet and the polls were so wrong.
This will not be going to the courts. Even GOP senates have defended that there has been no illegal votes/fraud counted. Also Biden and the senate will get along just fine... Biden has said multiple times he's a president for everyone not just one party.
Biden has said multiple times he's a president for everyone not just one party.
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oh girl please you don't have to believe it but I'm sure you believed trump when he said injecting bleach into your arm cures covid. Or when trump said covid would be gone by easter. The list goes on. Anyways what tues said. It's quiet ain't no back talk period
Biden has said multiple times he's a president for everyone not just one party.
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oh girl please you don't have to believe it but I'm sure you believed trump when he said injecting bleach into your arm cures covid. Or when trump said covid would be gone by easter. The list goes on. Anyways what tues said. It's quiet ain't no back talk period
Biden has said multiple times he's a president for everyone not just one party.
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oh girl please you don't have to believe it but I'm sure you believed trump when he said injecting bleach into your arm cures covid. Or when trump said covid would be gone by easter. The list goes on. Anyways what tues said. It's quiet ain't no back talk period
You guys aren't this naive. No one is. Biden, not any president, has been or ever will be for everyone. They will always cater to their base. That's the only way to get reelected. Biden has made it clear he supports the unconstitutional/socialist Obamacare, he refuses to advise of he would try to stack the SCOTUS and has even stated he could try to reassign them, his forgein policy is liberal, the list goes on and on. He's not wrong for any of this but don't pretend he's not divisive. You just support him so you want to believe he's not. Remember this is a man that has lied so much, including about who was to blame for the tragic accident that took the life of his wife and daughter, that he had to withdraw as a presidential candidate. Although I'm guessing you all weren't alive for that
It's not wrong he's voted against same sex marriage countless times, he was strongly in favor of dont ask dont tell, he supported conversion therapy, the so called religious freedom is just saying i hate the gays and I'm blaming jesus for it. The law literally lets people deny anyone gay because they think its a sin, how is that not homophobic?
Because its their right per the constitution. Every law must be constitutional. If they don't want to serve someone based on religious beliefs they shouldn't be required too per the constitution. Constitution is the key here. And, honestly, why would anyone from the LGBTQ community want to buy from them? It shouldn't be an issue.
I'm not anti gay marriage. If people want to get married then allow them but not everyone has to agree with that. I don’t see the courts overturning that.
The conversion therapy is the only thing that could be considered homophobic but Biden fully supported that too back in the day. Didn't most people? Obviously its looks horrible now and was horrible then but things change. I dont believe Pence supported this "recently" but if I'm wrong about that then, yes, that's 100% unacceptable.
We realize politicians are supposed to vote how their people want them too, right? They're too represent the community.
Well if my religion makes me not want to serve black people, that's my constitutional right? Gee, sounds like great logic there. I can make up a religion right now that says that blacks are inferior and not serve them, awesome!
Anyone who uses a 1787 document to justify their bigotry is an idiot, looking directly at you KVM.
It's not wrong he's voted against same sex marriage countless times, he was strongly in favor of dont ask dont tell, he supported conversion therapy, the so called religious freedom is just saying i hate the gays and I'm blaming jesus for it. The law literally lets people deny anyone gay because they think its a sin, how is that not homophobic?
Because its their right per the constitution. Every law must be constitutional. If they don't want to serve someone based on religious beliefs they shouldn't be required too per the constitution. Constitution is the key here. And, honestly, why would anyone from the LGBTQ community want to buy from them? It shouldn't be an issue.
I'm not anti gay marriage. If people want to get married then allow them but not everyone has to agree with that. I don’t see the courts overturning that.
The conversion therapy is the only thing that could be considered homophobic but Biden fully supported that too back in the day. Didn't most people? Obviously its looks horrible now and was horrible then but things change. I dont believe Pence supported this "recently" but if I'm wrong about that then, yes, that's 100% unacceptable.
We realize politicians are supposed to vote how their people want them too, right? They're too represent the community.
Well if my religion makes me not want to serve black people, that's my constitutional right? Gee, sounds like great logic there. I can make up a religion right now that says that blacks are inferior and not serve them, awesome!
Anyone who uses a 1787 document to justify their bigotry is an idiot, looking directly at you KVM.
You realize our society is solely based on that document which has and will continue to be amended. You can be angry all you want but every law in the US must be constitutional. This is why courts exist.
For some reason you all don't comprehend the difference between understanding the law and your beliefs matching it. I'd serve anyone if I owned a business but I'm not naive enough that I ignore others constitutional right of religious freedom. See what happens in countries without religious freedoms.
It's not wrong he's voted against same sex marriage countless times, he was strongly in favor of dont ask dont tell, he supported conversion therapy, the so called religious freedom is just saying i hate the gays and I'm blaming jesus for it. The law literally lets people deny anyone gay because they think its a sin, how is that not homophobic?
Because its their right per the constitution. Every law must be constitutional. If they don't want to serve someone based on religious beliefs they shouldn't be required too per the constitution. Constitution is the key here. And, honestly, why would anyone from the LGBTQ community want to buy from them? It shouldn't be an issue.
I'm not anti gay marriage. If people want to get married then allow them but not everyone has to agree with that. I don't see the courts overturning that.
The conversion therapy is the only thing that could be considered homophobic but Biden fully supported that too back in the day. Didn't most people? Obviously its looks horrible now and was horrible then but things change. I dont believe Pence supported this "recently" but if I'm wrong about that then, yes, that's 100% unacceptable.
We realize politicians are supposed to vote how their people want them too, right? They're too represent the community.
Well if my religion makes me not want to serve black people, that's my constitutional right? Gee, sounds like great logic there. I can make up a religion right now that says that blacks are inferior and not serve them, awesome!
Anyone who uses a 1787 document to justify their bigotry is an idiot, looking directly at you KVM.
You realize our society is solely based on that document which has and will continue to be amended. You can be angry all you want but every law in the US must be constitutional. This is why courts exist.
For some reason you all don't comprehend the difference between understanding the law and your beliefs matching it. I'd serve anyone if I owned a business but I'm not naive enough that I ignore others constitutional right of religious freedom. See what happens in countries without religious freedoms.
I'm not even religious and I comprehend this.
If your religious freedoms impede on my rights as a person - which should be to be served regardless of my gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. which people have fought hard for hundreds of years to achieve, then I say **** your religious freedoms. You can have religious freedom all you want but if you want to operate within a mixing pot society then you better leave the bigotry at the door.
The fact that you are arguing that people should have the right to treat people differently based on their religion is exactly why we have seperation of church and state and have had hundreds of years of oppression to fight against. It's the laziest excuse to be a bigot ever.
Don't know why I'm bothering fighting with a ******* originalist. Same people that will argue for the second amendment when owning arms used to mean a ******* musket that took 30 minutes to load instead of an AK-47.
KVM do you believe it is constitutional to require citizens to wear face masks during a pandemic and for business owners to refuse them service if they don't comply?
It's not wrong he's voted against same sex marriage countless times, he was strongly in favor of dont ask dont tell, he supported conversion therapy, the so called religious freedom is just saying i hate the gays and I'm blaming jesus for it. The law literally lets people deny anyone gay because they think its a sin, how is that not homophobic?
Because its their right per the constitution. Every law must be constitutional. If they don't want to serve someone based on religious beliefs they shouldn't be required too per the constitution. Constitution is the key here. And, honestly, why would anyone from the LGBTQ community want to buy from them? It shouldn't be an issue.
I'm not anti gay marriage. If people want to get married then allow them but not everyone has to agree with that. I don't see the courts overturning that.
The conversion therapy is the only thing that could be considered homophobic but Biden fully supported that too back in the day. Didn't most people? Obviously its looks horrible now and was horrible then but things change. I dont believe Pence supported this "recently" but if I'm wrong about that then, yes, that's 100% unacceptable.
We realize politicians are supposed to vote how their people want them too, right? They're too represent the community.
Well if my religion makes me not want to serve black people, that's my constitutional right? Gee, sounds like great logic there. I can make up a religion right now that says that blacks are inferior and not serve them, awesome!
Anyone who uses a 1787 document to justify their bigotry is an idiot, looking directly at you KVM.
You realize our society is solely based on that document which has and will continue to be amended. You can be angry all you want but every law in the US must be constitutional. This is why courts exist.
For some reason you all don't comprehend the difference between understanding the law and your beliefs matching it. I'd serve anyone if I owned a business but I'm not naive enough that I ignore others constitutional right of religious freedom. See what happens in countries without religious freedoms.
I'm not even religious and I comprehend this.
If your religious freedoms impede on my rights as a person - which should be to be served regardless of my gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. which people have fought hard for hundreds of years to achieve, then I say **** your religious freedoms. You can have religious freedom all you want but if you want to operate within a mixing pot society then you better leave the bigotry at the door.
The fact that you are arguing that people should have the right to treat people differently based on their religion is exactly why we have seperation of church and state and have had hundreds of years of oppression to fight against. It's the laziest excuse to be a bigot ever.
Explain how you think "separation of church and state" applies to a privately owned business.
KVM do you believe it is constitutional to require citizens to wear face masks during a pandemic and for business owners to refuse them service if they don't comply?
Based on the constitution, I believe any private business has the right to deny service for any reason. Not wearing a mask is a perfectly acceptable reason to deny. Just like shirts/shoes.
As for the first part, I don't see any reason that mandating masks would be unconstitutional. Limiting gatherings is another story as we're seeing in PA.
How so?
You done grandpa ?
Sticking with the insults because you don't like reality I see
When did i once mention Harris?
You're trying to claim that selecting Pence is somehow proof that Trump did something homophobic or racist but, if you believe that, then you need to believe the same about Biden since Harris is far worse and has the record to prove it. You're saying Pence is homophobic because of he believes in religious freedom--you know, per the constitution. Hardly homophobic. And, if that's the only thing most people know about Pence that's frightening considering it's wrong.
It's not wrong he's voted against same sex marriage countless times, he was strongly in favor of dont ask dont tell, he supported conversion therapy, the so called religious freedom is just saying i hate the gays and I'm blaming jesus for it. The law literally lets people deny anyone gay because they think its a sin, how is that not homophobic?
Because its their right per the constitution. Every law must be constitutional. If they don't want to serve someone based on religious beliefs they shouldn't be required too per the constitution. Constitution is the key here. And, honestly, why would anyone from the LGBTQ community want to buy from them? It shouldn't be an issue.
I'm not anti gay marriage. If people want to get married then allow them but not everyone has to agree with that. I don’t see the courts overturning that.
The conversion therapy is the only thing that could be considered homophobic but Biden fully supported that too back in the day. Didn't most people? Obviously its looks horrible now and was horrible then but things change. I dont believe Pence supported this "recently" but if I'm wrong about that then, yes, that's 100% unacceptable.
We realize politicians are supposed to vote how their people want them too, right? They're too represent the community.
Lol "not anti-gay marriage" but yet votes for someone trying to take that away from some of us. Again your morals are showing KVM.
There isn't a candidate alive that someone agrees with completely. No one ever vote if they had to agree with everything about them. You agree with Biden on everything?
Also starting to think you don't know what morals are...
I know what morals are. I am not dumb. Your Morals are trash and you should be shamed voted for a racist, homophobic, transphobic ******* who only cares about himself. Tragic.
Wait. How is this only caring about myself? You're the one claiming that my priorities should match your priorities. Thats not how politics work. No one should ever be ashamed of who they voted for. Your reaction here is my most stay quiet and the polls were so wrong.
This will not be going to the courts. Even GOP senates have defended that there has been no illegal votes/fraud counted. Also Biden and the senate will get along just fine... Biden has said multiple times he's a president for everyone not just one party.
lol
You guys aren't this naive. No one is. Biden, not any president, has been or ever will be for everyone. They will always cater to their base. That's the only way to get reelected. Biden has made it clear he supports the unconstitutional/socialist Obamacare, he refuses to advise of he would try to stack the SCOTUS and has even stated he could try to reassign them, his forgein policy is liberal, the list goes on and on. He's not wrong for any of this but don't pretend he's not divisive. You just support him so you want to believe he's not. Remember this is a man that has lied so much, including about who was to blame for the tragic accident that took the life of his wife and daughter, that he had to withdraw as a presidential candidate. Although I'm guessing you all weren't alive for that
Come on guys.... KVM isn't racist. He likes Darrell.
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Liking Darrell (or countless other black contestants) has nothing to do with not being racist but keep trying.
So you admit your racist then?
Not at all. Again, you don't even realize how dumb this claim is.
Still think a black woman lied about their age with no " EVIDENCE " you're racist grandpa and a lot of users here know it
***** he just did that. I dont think he realizes it yet.
Well if my religion makes me not want to serve black people, that's my constitutional right? Gee, sounds like great logic there. I can make up a religion right now that says that blacks are inferior and not serve them, awesome!
Anyone who uses a 1787 document to justify their bigotry is an idiot, looking directly at you KVM.
You realize our society is solely based on that document which has and will continue to be amended. You can be angry all you want but every law in the US must be constitutional. This is why courts exist.
For some reason you all don't comprehend the difference between understanding the law and your beliefs matching it. I'd serve anyone if I owned a business but I'm not naive enough that I ignore others constitutional right of religious freedom. See what happens in countries without religious freedoms.
I'm not even religious and I comprehend this.
If your religious freedoms impede on my rights as a person - which should be to be served regardless of my gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. which people have fought hard for hundreds of years to achieve, then I say **** your religious freedoms. You can have religious freedom all you want but if you want to operate within a mixing pot society then you better leave the bigotry at the door.
The fact that you are arguing that people should have the right to treat people differently based on their religion is exactly why we have seperation of church and state and have had hundreds of years of oppression to fight against. It's the laziest excuse to be a bigot ever.
Don't know why I'm bothering fighting with a ******* originalist. Same people that will argue for the second amendment when owning arms used to mean a ******* musket that took 30 minutes to load instead of an AK-47.
KVM do you believe it is constitutional to require citizens to wear face masks during a pandemic and for business owners to refuse them service if they don't comply?
Explain how you think "separation of church and state" applies to a privately owned business.
Based on the constitution, I believe any private business has the right to deny service for any reason. Not wearing a mask is a perfectly acceptable reason to deny. Just like shirts/shoes.
As for the first part, I don't see any reason that mandating masks would be unconstitutional. Limiting gatherings is another story as we're seeing in PA.
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