We disagree regarding Susie for sure. And by all accounts Veronica took care of Tonya many times during The Ruins. You can only attack someone so many times before they break. Veronica handled that infinitely better than most would have. Out of everyone there Veronica was the least of Tonya's problems
Ugh Evan trying to act like the good guy comforting Tonya and throwing Veronica under the bus and knowing what we know now. He's such scum and one of my most hated challengers of all time. Glad Wes called out JEK right after it happened.
especially after one of the episodes, Evan, and few other guys were ******* around with Tonya while she was clearly having a psychotic break and screaming to leave her alone and they continued to forcefully wrap her up in a carpet I think.
Ugh Evan trying to act like the good guy comforting Tonya and throwing Veronica under the bus and knowing what we know now. He's such scum and one of my most hated challengers of all time. Glad Wes called out JEK right after it happened.
especially after one of the episodes, Evan, and few other guys were ******* around with Tonya while she was clearly having a psychotic break and screaming to leave her alone and they continued to forcefully wrap her up in a carpet I think.
It was disturbing.
im always so torn with Ruins because on one hand getting Tonya, Veronica, Ibis, Susie, Katie, Darrell and Syrus all together was incredible casting but on the other hand that season glorified JEK and their horrible antics and rewarded them for it. And a lot of the rookie girls like Sarah, KellyAnne, & Kim slayed it that season. But JEK just really ruined it being a top season for me.
Ugh Evan trying to act like the good guy comforting Tonya and throwing Veronica under the bus and knowing what we know now. He's such scum and one of my most hated challengers of all time. Glad Wes called out JEK right after it happened.
especially after one of the episodes, Evan, and few other guys were ******* around with Tonya while she was clearly having a psychotic break and screaming to leave her alone and they continued to forcefully wrap her up in a carpet I think.
It was disturbing.
im always so torn with Ruins because on one hand getting Tonya, Veronica, Ibis, Susie, Katie, Darrell and Syrus all together was incredible casting but on the other hand that season glorified JEK and their horrible antics and rewarded them for it. And a lot of the rookie girls like Sarah, KellyAnne, & Kim slayed it that season. But JEK just really ruined it being a top season for me.
when the cast was first announced I was shook at the names. Then jek happened....
Ugh Evan trying to act like the good guy comforting Tonya and throwing Veronica under the bus and knowing what we know now. He's such scum and one of my most hated challengers of all time. Glad Wes called out JEK right after it happened.
especially after one of the episodes, Evan, and few other guys were ******* around with Tonya while she was clearly having a psychotic break and screaming to leave her alone and they continued to forcefully wrap her up in a carpet I think.
It was disturbing.
im always so torn with Ruins because on one hand getting Tonya, Veronica, Ibis, Susie, Katie, Darrell and Syrus all together was incredible casting but on the other hand that season glorified JEK and their horrible antics and rewarded them for it. And a lot of the rookie girls like Sarah, KellyAnne, & Kim slayed it that season. But JEK just really ruined it being a top season for me.
when the cast was first announced I was shook at the names. Then jek happened....
If Darrell doesn't punch Brad I like that season a lot more...
Ugh Evan trying to act like the good guy comforting Tonya and throwing Veronica under the bus and knowing what we know now. He's such scum and one of my most hated challengers of all time. Glad Wes called out JEK right after it happened.
especially after one of the episodes, Evan, and few other guys were ******* around with Tonya while she was clearly having a psychotic break and screaming to leave her alone and they continued to forcefully wrap her up in a carpet I think.
It was disturbing.
im always so torn with Ruins because on one hand getting Tonya, Veronica, Ibis, Susie, Katie, Darrell and Syrus all together was incredible casting but on the other hand that season glorified JEK and their horrible antics and rewarded them for it. And a lot of the rookie girls like Sarah, KellyAnne, & Kim slayed it that season. But JEK just really ruined it being a top season for me.
they also clearly set the challengers team up for failure. Not bringing in a replacement for Brad, casting Casey and Shauvon who are probably the worst challenge competitors ever, and not casting a stronger group of guys to combat the very strong champ guys.
Wait it was way too late in the season to replace Brad. I agree about Shauvon and Casey but they could have got rid of Casey and voted in Brianna. Nick was the only awful guy and they probably wanted someone from Hollywood on. I mean, yeah ideally we would have had CT there plus Jenn and Paula but they did a good job with fresh faces on both sides despite only a few rookies.
Production got so lucky with the Ruins. What would they have done is Ev really wanted to play for a win and took out KellyAnne then probably took out Sarah? IMO Sarah and KellyAnne saved that season imagine it's the end and all that's left is Casey vs Evan, Bananas, Derrick, Kenny, Ev and Susie lol
Production got so lucky with the Ruins. What would they have done is Ev really wanted to play for a win and took out KellyAnne then probably took out Sarah? IMO Sarah and KellyAnne saved that season imagine it's the end and all that's left is Casey vs Evan, Bananas, Derrick, Kenny, Ev and Susie lol
Then Ev quits in the final and Casey is a champ lol
Production got so lucky with the Ruins. What would they have done is Ev really wanted to play for a win and took out KellyAnne then probably took out Sarah? IMO Sarah and KellyAnne saved that season imagine it's the end and all that's left is Casey vs Evan, Bananas, Derrick, Kenny, Ev and Susie lol
Then Ev quits in the final and Casey is a champ lol
omg that would have been amazing karma. I still wish Sarah and KellyAnne would have won. I wanted insta karma for jek so bad.
Production got so lucky with the Ruins. What would they have done is Ev really wanted to play for a win and took out KellyAnne then probably took out Sarah? IMO Sarah and KellyAnne saved that season imagine it's the end and all that's left is Casey vs Evan, Bananas, Derrick, Kenny, Ev and Susie lol
Then Ev quits in the final and Casey is a champ lol
Is she though? Or would she "sell her soul to the devil" for another W lol I think if that's the final set up Evelyn would have taken the win.
The Ruins was definitely rigged for JEK to all win together.
The Challengers team was also really dumb not throwing in Casey into elimination for the only deliberation they had control of that entire season. The rumors of Brad keeping Casey around to help JEK doesn't sound far fetched so he dug his own grave making that deal with them in the first place. Casey really made that entire season so unwatchable with how bad she was.
This was the season after Ct was banned so there was no way he was gonna be on but he really would have made a difference.
The Challengers team should have been this:
CT, Brad, Dunbar, Scott, Will, Greg, Cohutta,
Paula, Jenn, Diem, Kim, Sarah, Brianna, KellyAnne (even Aneesa, Britni, way better options than Casey and Shauvon)
The Ruins was definitely rigged for JEK to all win together.
The Challengers team was also really dumb not throwing in Casey into elimination for the only deliberation they had control of that entire season. The rumors of Brad keeping Casey around to help JEK doesn't sound far fetched so he dug his own grave making that deal with them in the first place. Casey really made that entire season so unwatchable with how bad she was.
This was the season after Ct was banned so there was no way he was gonna be on but he really would have made a difference.
The Challengers team should have been this:
CT, Brad, Dunbar, Scott, Will, Greg, Cohutta,
Paula, Jenn, Diem, Kim, Sarah, Brianna, KellyAnne (even Aneesa, Britni, way better options than Casey and Shauvon)
People still keep trying to make JEK a thing when John was an afterthought. It was DEK with Susie & Johanna. Let's not pretend Johnny mattered to any of them.
We can't say CT because they couldn't have created a cast with him. Most threatened not to return if he was on after Duel 2 but, yes, he would have made a difference. The problem is there aren't many guys that would have helped the challengers. Maybe Tyler but he hadn't shown much at that point. Isaac wouldn't have helped. Davis and Tyrie are awful. There weren't good guys. Brad, Dunbar, Cohutta, Danny and Chet were decent on paper. Adam K had even reached a final. Nick's still my issue but people have to accept. I don't think Ryan or Will wanted to do it.
That's true on your point about John. Darrell getting disqualified really made that season worse as it allowed those ******** to make more money in the end and Darrell would have guaranteed a 5th win for himself.
Evan and Kenny were always gonna be in control as long as Derrick and Darrell we're backing them up. Derrick for sure and Darrell was anti-Wes that season. Ev and Wes weren't gonna shake up anything with the cast they were given.
The Ruins would be so diffrent if Landon made the final and won Duel 2 and CT/Evan were on the Challenegrs team. **** Johnny was almost ousted on The Island if Im not mistaken but Abram quit essentially and Bnaanas STILL almost got sent home. Imagine the balance then.
Ugh I wish CT would have stayed banned. I don't get why that was ever lifted.
The Johnny Bananas Backpack Show on Cutthroat is the only reason he came back. When that happened, he regained popularity and started to get cast again.
Ugh I wish CT would have stayed banned. I don't get why that was ever lifted.
The Johnny Bananas Backpack Show on Cutthroat is the only reason he came back. When that happened, he regained popularity and started to get cast again.
ugh so true. I loved that moment so much. I'm torn if I'd rather never had that moment and ct never return or keep things as is.
The Ruins would be so diffrent if Landon made the final and won Duel 2 and CT/Evan were on the Challenegrs team. **** Johnny was almost ousted on The Island if Im not mistaken but Abram quit essentially and Bnaanas STILL almost got sent home. Imagine the balance then.
i so wish Johnny would have lost that on the island. Rachel sadly made her epic return for that horrible season but I love her loyalty to Abe during that vote.
The Challengers lost the season (well they were gonna lose anyway) the moment they won the third mission, Casey was nominated and they voted in Brianna instead. It wasn't the time to vote in a rookie. Danny, KellyAnne and Brad were dumb af.
Well it was rumored Brad was told by Evan/Kenny to keep Casey around and he would get some of the money they won in the end. Just goes to show how far up their *** some of these losers were back then.
As the super vet, Brad should have really lead that Challengers team but instead made their team even worse by keeping Casey and DQing himself. I could see Brad getting to the end with Sarah and Kellyanne and would not have been shocked if he led them to a win.
As the super vet, Brad should have really lead that Challengers team but instead made their team even worse by keeping Casey and DQing himself. I could see Brad getting to the end with Sarah and Kellyanne and would not have been shocked if he led them to a win.
He probably threw in the towel as soon as he saw his team
As the super vet, Brad should have really lead that Challengers team but instead made their team even worse by keeping Casey and DQing himself. I could see Brad getting to the end with Sarah and Kellyanne and would not have been shocked if he led them to a win.
He probably threw in the towel as soon as he saw his team
I remember Adam commenting that he and Brad should be champions. Adam.. **** outta here you creepy predator.
As the super vet, Brad should have really lead that Challengers team but instead made their team even worse by keeping Casey and DQing himself. I could see Brad getting to the end with Sarah and Kellyanne and would not have been shocked if he led them to a win.
He probably threw in the towel as soon as he saw his team
he should have remembered the gauntlet 3...anything is possible.
You right on that.
especially after one of the episodes, Evan, and few other guys were ******* around with Tonya while she was clearly having a psychotic break and screaming to leave her alone and they continued to forcefully wrap her up in a carpet I think.
It was disturbing.
im always so torn with Ruins because on one hand getting Tonya, Veronica, Ibis, Susie, Katie, Darrell and Syrus all together was incredible casting but on the other hand that season glorified JEK and their horrible antics and rewarded them for it. And a lot of the rookie girls like Sarah, KellyAnne, & Kim slayed it that season. But JEK just really ruined it being a top season for me.
when the cast was first announced I was shook at the names. Then jek happened....
If Darrell doesn't punch Brad I like that season a lot more...
I'm disappointed Marie made up with Jemmye. She really needs that toxic fraud out of her life.
Swaggy interviews Jordan
https://youtu.be/hmTbezlChtc
they also clearly set the challengers team up for failure. Not bringing in a replacement for Brad, casting Casey and Shauvon who are probably the worst challenge competitors ever, and not casting a stronger group of guys to combat the very strong champ guys.
Wait it was way too late in the season to replace Brad. I agree about Shauvon and Casey but they could have got rid of Casey and voted in Brianna. Nick was the only awful guy and they probably wanted someone from Hollywood on. I mean, yeah ideally we would have had CT there plus Jenn and Paula but they did a good job with fresh faces on both sides despite only a few rookies.
Production got so lucky with the Ruins. What would they have done is Ev really wanted to play for a win and took out KellyAnne then probably took out Sarah? IMO Sarah and KellyAnne saved that season imagine it's the end and all that's left is Casey vs Evan, Bananas, Derrick, Kenny, Ev and Susie lol
Then Ev quits in the final and Casey is a champ lol
omg that would have been amazing karma. I still wish Sarah and KellyAnne would have won. I wanted insta karma for jek so bad.
Is she though? Or would she "sell her soul to the devil" for another W lol I think if that's the final set up Evelyn would have taken the win.
The Ruins was definitely rigged for JEK to all win together.
The Challengers team was also really dumb not throwing in Casey into elimination for the only deliberation they had control of that entire season. The rumors of Brad keeping Casey around to help JEK doesn't sound far fetched so he dug his own grave making that deal with them in the first place. Casey really made that entire season so unwatchable with how bad she was.
This was the season after Ct was banned so there was no way he was gonna be on but he really would have made a difference.
The Challengers team should have been this:
CT, Brad, Dunbar, Scott, Will, Greg, Cohutta,
Paula, Jenn, Diem, Kim, Sarah, Brianna, KellyAnne (even Aneesa, Britni, way better options than Casey and Shauvon)
People still keep trying to make JEK a thing when John was an afterthought. It was DEK with Susie & Johanna. Let's not pretend Johnny mattered to any of them.
We can't say CT because they couldn't have created a cast with him. Most threatened not to return if he was on after Duel 2 but, yes, he would have made a difference. The problem is there aren't many guys that would have helped the challengers. Maybe Tyler but he hadn't shown much at that point. Isaac wouldn't have helped. Davis and Tyrie are awful. There weren't good guys. Brad, Dunbar, Cohutta, Danny and Chet were decent on paper. Adam K had even reached a final. Nick's still my issue but people have to accept. I don't think Ryan or Will wanted to do it.
Diem shouldn't have been on (app check)
Ugh I wish CT would have stayed banned. I don't get why that was ever lifted.
That's true on your point about John. Darrell getting disqualified really made that season worse as it allowed those ******** to make more money in the end and Darrell would have guaranteed a 5th win for himself.
Evan and Kenny were always gonna be in control as long as Derrick and Darrell we're backing them up. Derrick for sure and Darrell was anti-Wes that season. Ev and Wes weren't gonna shake up anything with the cast they were given.
The Ruins would be so diffrent if Landon made the final and won Duel 2 and CT/Evan were on the Challenegrs team. **** Johnny was almost ousted on The Island if Im not mistaken but Abram quit essentially and Bnaanas STILL almost got sent home. Imagine the balance then.
The Johnny Bananas Backpack Show on Cutthroat is the only reason he came back. When that happened, he regained popularity and started to get cast again.
ugh so true. I loved that moment so much. I'm torn if I'd rather never had that moment and ct never return or keep things as is.
i so wish Johnny would have lost that on the island. Rachel sadly made her epic return for that horrible season but I love her loyalty to Abe during that vote.
The Challengers lost the season (well they were gonna lose anyway) the moment they won the third mission, Casey was nominated and they voted in Brianna instead. It wasn't the time to vote in a rookie. Danny, KellyAnne and Brad were dumb af.
Well it was rumored Brad was told by Evan/Kenny to keep Casey around and he would get some of the money they won in the end. Just goes to show how far up their *** some of these losers were back then.
As the super vet, Brad should have really lead that Challengers team but instead made their team even worse by keeping Casey and DQing himself. I could see Brad getting to the end with Sarah and Kellyanne and would not have been shocked if he led them to a win.
He probably threw in the towel as soon as he saw his team
I remember Adam commenting that he and Brad should be champions. Adam.. **** outta here you creepy predator.
Speaking of Adam, remember that day like two years ago where he met up with Camila, Jordan, and Tori Deal?
he should have remembered the gauntlet 3...anything is possible.
lol I remember Camilla with those two, but I forgot about Adam! That's super random
It's also super horrifying if you think about it considering what Adam, Camila, and Jordan have done on this show
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