The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

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What I got from reading those is not that Kyle was supposed to win but that Jenny finished in first place and that Bananas finished in 2nd/1st for the men and then Production threw in the twist that there were 2 winners. I'm tired though and could be misreading that.

I think Kyle beat Johnny first but they had to reshoot a part of the final and that's when Johnny beat Kyle.. That's what I got from it.. in addition to the Jenny part.. which was just stupid on her part.

First they take away Jennys sole win, they they completly edited out her storyline which would have gained her a lot of fans because of Dee. Just give her the whole million already

Or am i misunderstanding and the final was orginally a solo winner, Jenny wins, then they randomly ask her if shes willing to split the prize with the first place male (bananas) on camera, similar to when they ask a winner if they're going to take or split the prize money?

Not on camera

What I got from reading those is not that Kyle was supposed to win but that Jenny finished in first place and that Bananas finished in 2nd/1st for the men and then Production threw in the twist that there were 2 winners. I'm tired though and could be misreading that.

I think Kyle beat Johnny first but they had to reshoot a part of the final and that's when Johnny beat Kyle.. That's what I got from it.. in addition to the Jenny part.. which was just stupid on her part.

You just turned over all the words, and they didn't say it at all.We have to believe that the final was reshot, and 7 people silently agreed to it?People go mad to justify their failure.

okay so is he retiring or not?

Do people really believe that Jenny agreed to give away $ 500,000 for nothing?Then Johnny Bananas is a wizard)

This is why people think things are rigged for John, because his wins are so sketchy just look at Rivals and Rivals 3. I won't take away from his win on FA because there was nothing sketchy about it but until he wins without suspicion surrounding it thats why people dont give him credit 

This is why people think things are rigged for John, because his wins are so sketchy just look at Rivals and Rivals 3. I won't take away from his win on FA because there was nothing sketchy about it but until he wins without suspicion surrounding it thats why people dont give him credit 

The final was not even shown on TV, we didn't see it, and people are ready to write all day and night that they give him victories,and that Jenny voluntarily gave her $ 500,000, and the other 6 participants agreed to give Johnny the victory)And these same people are completely oblivious to the falsified victories of Cara  on Vendetta and Ashley in the Final reckoning

Do people really believe that Jenny agreed to give away $ 500,000 for nothing?Then Johnny Bananas is a wizard)

If it is true and since it happened off camera It wouldnt surprise me if they pressured her to do it and made it seem like she would never be cast again if she didnt. That or they told her they would secretly give her the full milliion but im not getting my hopes up that was the case.

Do people really believe that Jenny agreed to give away $ 500,000 for nothing?Then Johnny Bananas is a wizard)

Why do y'all pick & choose what to believe from us? Quick to believe each week's tribunal when it benefits your FanDuel, but always wanna discredit when it involves your favs...

Queen Jenny beating everyone in the final

But why do they care about Kyle, he doesn't really have anything going on without Cara. Is it cus he's a vote for Johnny?

 

Do people really believe that Jenny agreed to give away $ 500,000 for nothing?Then Johnny Bananas is a wizard)

Why do y'all pick & choose what to believe from us? Quick to believe each week's tribunal when it benefits your FanDuel, but always wanna discredit when it involves your favs...

Because it is difficult for an adequate person to believe that 7 people in the final turn a blind eye to fraud, and Jenny gives her 500,000 dollars, there is no logic in this.Everyone's an idiot?Jenny could have taken a million dollars and lived into old age without being on the show)Such a rumor can be started in every season, but as for Bananas-it happens in every victory.Specifically, you, as a fan of Ashley, will never admit that the producers gave her a victory in the Final Reckoning, but if it were johnny, You would write it all day)

But why do they care about Kyle, he doesn't really have anything going on without Cara. Is it cus he's a vote for Johnny?

he has over a million followers 

Do people really believe that Jenny agreed to give away $ 500,000 for nothing?Then Johnny Bananas is a wizard)

Jenny overall is a nice person and friends with Bananas so I would 100% believe it. They probably didn't even pressure her much before she said yes. Would have loved if someone like Bayleigh won because I don't think she's as likely to say yes and probably wouldn't be afraid to air out production trying to get Bananas a win lol

 

What I got from reading those is not that Kyle was supposed to win but that Jenny finished in first place and that Bananas finished in 2nd/1st for the men and then Production threw in the twist that there were 2 winners. I'm tired though and could be misreading that.

I think Kyle beat Johnny first but they had to reshoot a part of the final and that's when Johnny beat Kyle.. That's what I got from it.. in addition to the Jenny part.. which was just stupid on her part.

You just turned over all the words, and they didn't say it at all.We have to believe that the final was reshot, and 7 people silently agreed to it?People go mad to justify their failure.

Whatre you talking about? That's exactly what it says. They re-shot part of the final that Kyle originally beat Bananas, and when they re-shot it Bananas either beat Kyle or made up enough time to beat him overall. Nobody said the entire final was re-shot.

******* bullshit regardless and I wish it was anybody but Kyle or one of Bananas lapdogs so a bigger deal would've been made about it. Good on Kyle for being ****** though but c'mon.. And Jenny proved she's a bad *** this season, beating Dee in Hall Brawl, then winning the final overall. She could've been 10/10 if she didn't decide to allow two winners but the fact that producers were considering one winner AGAIN is ****.

 

What I got from reading those is not that Kyle was supposed to win but that Jenny finished in first place and that Bananas finished in 2nd/1st for the men and then Production threw in the twist that there were 2 winners. I'm tired though and could be misreading that.

I think Kyle beat Johnny first but they had to reshoot a part of the final and that's when Johnny beat Kyle.. That's what I got from it.. in addition to the Jenny part.. which was just stupid on her part.

You just turned over all the words, and they didn't say it at all.We have to believe that the final was reshot, and 7 people silently agreed to it?People go mad to justify their failure.

Here is where reading comprehension comes into play nobody have saying that they reshoot the entire final. Idk if you know but the final is breaks into different segments or parts. One of those part that they re-shot was one that Kyle won the first time they did it for w.e reason they told them.

Not everything you see on Reality TV thanks to the power of editing is exactly the way things usually goes down when they are filmed. Scenes on a lot of reality shows have to be re-shot. In the Challenge case they have had to re-shoot dailies, eliminations and final parts on prior seasons for x or y reasons.

Right! Pretty sure Jenny or anyone with any common sense will just throw away a half mil. I’d like to believe that all players are aware of the prize stakes prior to participation.

Now, I would not put it past MTV to shell out an extra 500k for their Golden boy. Nor I wouldn’t put it past MTV to ask Jenny and the remaining cast for approval to allow for editing to have Johnny as a co-winner. Even with that, if Kyle was somehow asked to do a unwarranted redo on a final that he finished first as a male winner, he’d have a clear legal challenge. 

 

But why do they care about Kyle, he doesn't really have anything going on without Cara. Is it cus he's a vote for Johnny?

he has over a million followers 

A lot of bots the number of likes he get doesnt adds up. Let's not talk about the fact that he stays going down every season while everyone except for Bear goes up. Somebody spend some money for that million followers.

I mean either way Backpacks win was bullshit just like the majority of his wins.

I mean either way Backpacks win was bullshit just like the majority of his wins.

Rivals, is still the one that annoys me the most and i dont get how people defend it 

 

 

What I got from reading those is not that Kyle was supposed to win but that Jenny finished in first place and that Bananas finished in 2nd/1st for the men and then Production threw in the twist that there were 2 winners. I'm tired though and could be misreading that.

I think Kyle beat Johnny first but they had to reshoot a part of the final and that's when Johnny beat Kyle.. That's what I got from it.. in addition to the Jenny part.. which was just stupid on her part.

You just turned over all the words, and they didn't say it at all.We have to believe that the final was reshot, and 7 people silently agreed to it?People go mad to justify their failure.

Here is where reading comprehension comes into play nobody have saying that they reshoot the entire final. Idk if you know but the final is breaks into different segments or parts. One of those part that they re-shot was one that Kyle won the first time they did it for w.e reason they told them.

Not everything you see on Reality TV thanks to the power of editing is exactly the way things usually goes down when they are filmed. Scenes on a lot of reality shows have to be re-shot. In the Challenge case they have had to re-shoot dailies, eliminations and final parts on prior seasons for x or y reasons.

Did you re-shoot it for what reason?If this changed the victory, why didn't the other participants complain that it wasn't fair?Did the reshoot change the separation of 1 place from 2?No one knows.

Right! Pretty sure Jenny or anyone with any common sense will just throw away a half mil. I’d like to believe that all players are aware of the prize stakes prior to participation.

Now, I would not put it past MTV to shell out an extra 500k for their Golden boy. Nor I wouldn’t put it past MTV to ask Jenny and the remaining cast for approval to allow for editing to have Johnny as a co-winner. Even with that, if Kyle was somehow asked to do a unwarranted redo on a final that he finished first as a male winner, he’d have a clear legal challenge. 

I don't think he has a legal challenge because I dont The Challenge is legally considered a game show or something like that 

The hatred had reached its climax.Let's say that Jenny, who sees a Bananas for the second time in her life, gives him $ 500,000, or she is "threatened with production", and she is silent.People are mad)

Invasion rigged for CT, Vendettas rigged for Cara, FR rigged for Ashley, WOTW2 rigged for Jordan, Madness rigged for Bananas.  The beat goes on.

 

 

 

What I got from reading those is not that Kyle was supposed to win but that Jenny finished in first place and that Bananas finished in 2nd/1st for the men and then Production threw in the twist that there were 2 winners. I'm tired though and could be misreading that.

I think Kyle beat Johnny first but they had to reshoot a part of the final and that's when Johnny beat Kyle.. That's what I got from it.. in addition to the Jenny part.. which was just stupid on her part.

You just turned over all the words, and they didn't say it at all.We have to believe that the final was reshot, and 7 people silently agreed to it?People go mad to justify their failure.

Here is where reading comprehension comes into play nobody have saying that they reshoot the entire final. Idk if you know but the final is breaks into different segments or parts. One of those part that they re-shot was one that Kyle won the first time they did it for w.e reason they told them.

Not everything you see on Reality TV thanks to the power of editing is exactly the way things usually goes down when they are filmed. Scenes on a lot of reality shows have to be re-shot. In the Challenge case they have had to re-shoot dailies, eliminations and final parts on prior seasons for x or y reasons.

Did you re-shoot it for what reason?If this changed the victory, why didn't the other participants complain that it wasn't fair?Did the reshoot change the separation of 1 place from 2?No one knows.

What's the point of you being here if you want to pick and choose what to believe and not believe from the spoiler team? 

Invasion rigged for CT, Vendettas rigged for Cara, FR rigged for Ashley, WOTW2 rigged for Jordan, Madness rigged for Bananas.  The beat goes on.

YES!And this is every season)

The hatred had reached its climax.Let's say that Jenny, who sees a Bananas for the second time in her life, gives him $ 500,000, or she is "threatened with production", and she is silent.People are mad)

No doubt people hate John, but think about how no one says anything about FA because there was nothing sketchy about it like his other wins. If something consistently happens there might be some weight to it 

What's the point of you being here if you want to pick and choose what to believe and not believe from the spoiler team? 

Team spoiler was not on the set of the show, and do not know the essence of the"reshoot".As you understand, they are given "information", so they sometimes make mistakes when they put the names of those who left the show, which means they do not know why a particular moment in the show was reshot.I want to hear facts, not information that is presented in a way that is profitable.

Right! Pretty sure Jenny or anyone with any common sense will just throw away a half mil. I’d like to believe that all players are aware of the prize stakes prior to participation.

Now, I would not put it past MTV to shell out an extra 500k for their Golden boy. Nor I wouldn’t put it past MTV to ask Jenny and the remaining cast for approval to allow for editing to have Johnny as a co-winner. Even with that, if Kyle was somehow asked to do a unwarranted redo on a final that he finished first as a male winner, he’d have a clear legal challenge.

They gave them a reason to reshoot/re-do that part or segment so it wasnt tehnically unwarranted. He is the one that is claiming to others that redoing/reshooting that part cost him the final.

There is no legal ground for him because the challenge contract cover themselves pretty nicely and it's not a game show it's under reality show so it doesn't have to follow the regulation of game shows. Hence Sarah Rice couldn't do anything legally when bananas was fined over using xanax on Rivals 3 final.

 

Right! Pretty sure Jenny or anyone with any common sense will just throw away a half mil. I’d like to believe that all players are aware of the prize stakes prior to participation.

Now, I would not put it past MTV to shell out an extra 500k for their Golden boy. Nor I wouldn’t put it past MTV to ask Jenny and the remaining cast for approval to allow for editing to have Johnny as a co-winner. Even with that, if Kyle was somehow asked to do a unwarranted redo on a final that he finished first as a male winner, he’d have a clear legal challenge.

They gave them a reason to reshoot/re-do that part or segment so it wasnt tehnically unwarranted. He is the one that is claiming to others that redoing/reshooting that part cost him the final. There is no legal ground for him because the challenge contract cover themselves pretty nicely and it's not a game show it's under reality show so it doesn't have to follow the regulation of game shows. Hence Sarah Rice couldn't do anything legally when bananas was fined over using xanax on Rivals 3 final.

Are you suggesting that he might not be telling the truth? Or do you value his words as fact?Because this is from the person who lost

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