The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Ok, if Rogan beat Nelson in Hall Brawl, I stand corrected. It’s very respectable. I don’t believe to this point Nelson has lost an individual elimination. 

I still see Rogan same as Dee - a middle of the road player.Mtv was prepping Dee. She is decent at dailies, mediocre in eliminations. Lost soundly to Dayvonne is a physical /endurance elimination. Beat Ashley is a questionable Easter egg hunt puzzle,. And Mattie in a loaded sandbox game.

Rogan is mediocre in the dallies. BTW, Im not a huge Johnny fan but if he did beat Rogan in a physical, its a good look. Or an incredibly bad look depending on perspective.

Question I have is how those 2 end up in the final elimination after a location change?

 

Obviously because they were the only 2 male winners left. Cory and/or Fessy probably were probably in the tribunal and made a good move to eliminate one of the two biggest threats left

I sure hope so. I'm ready for some tea. 

So the group reunion is happening this week?

Do you think they will even be allowed to mention Dees name in the reunion? I imagine Jennys interview when they obviously ask her about Dee turning on her is going to edited as ****.

Do you think they will even be allowed to mention Dees name in the reunion? I imagine Jennys interview when they obviously ask her about Dee turning on her is going to edited as ****.

They completely cut anyone talking about her last episode, I don't think we'll see any Dee segments at all.

Do you think they will even be allowed to mention Dees name in the reunion? I imagine Jennys interview when they obviously ask her about Dee turning on her is going to edited as ****.

They completely cut anyone talking about her last episode, I don't think we'll see any Dee segments at all.

I'm completely fine with that as long as they edit it properly and everything makes sense.. las episode was just a bad one to start with since everything revolved around her but going forward, I'm fine without seeing her face.. I've had enough of Dee.

Does anyone know where I can watch a preview for next episode? Don't see it anywhere 

Do you think they will even be allowed to mention Dees name in the reunion? I imagine Jennys interview when they obviously ask her about Dee turning on her is going to edited as ****.

They completely cut anyone talking about her last episode, I don't think we'll see any Dee segments at all.

I'm completely fine with that as long as they edit it properly and everything makes sense.. las episode was just a bad one to start with since everything revolved around her but going forward, I'm fine without seeing her face.. I've had enough of Dee.

it's an issue because regardless of whether you like her or not, she was a huge part of this season. now all storylines with Rogan, Johnny, Swayleigh, Jenny, etc. are just going to vanish and this season isn't going to make a lot of sense, so neither will the reunion. im sick of Dee too but she was the main girl this season, not exactly easy to erase

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Do you think they will even be allowed to mention Dees name in the reunion? I imagine Jennys interview when they obviously ask her about Dee turning on her is going to edited as ****.

They completely cut anyone talking about her last episode, I don't think we'll see any Dee segments at all.

I'm completely fine with that as long as they edit it properly and everything makes sense.. las episode was just a bad one to start with since everything revolved around her but going forward, I'm fine without seeing her face.. I've had enough of Dee.

it's an issue because regardless of whether you like her or not, she was a huge part of this season. now all storylines with Rogan, Johnny, Swayleigh, Jenny, etc. are just going to vanish and this season isn't going to make a lot of sense, so neither will the reunion. im sick of Dee too but she was the main girl this season, not exactly easy to erase

How did they edit Camila on XXX after the Leroy incident?

 

 

Do you think they will even be allowed to mention Dees name in the reunion? I imagine Jennys interview when they obviously ask her about Dee turning on her is going to edited as ****.

They completely cut anyone talking about her last episode, I don't think we'll see any Dee segments at all.

I'm completely fine with that as long as they edit it properly and everything makes sense.. las episode was just a bad one to start with since everything revolved around her but going forward, I'm fine without seeing her face.. I've had enough of Dee.

it's an issue because regardless of whether you like her or not, she was a huge part of this season. now all storylines with Rogan, Johnny, Swayleigh, Jenny, etc. are just going to vanish and this season isn't going to make a lot of sense, so neither will the reunion. im sick of Dee too but she was the main girl this season, not exactly easy to erase

How did they edit Camila on XXX after the Leroy incident?

 

good point. I think they gave her a handful of confessionals still. but there were several "central" girls that season with Kailah, Tori, Cara etc. This season every girl left besides Nany and even the 4 going to the final are basically backbround characters

Camilla didn't have nearly as many storylines on XXX, plus she's so unlikeable that editing her out helped the show more than hurt it, it was only weird when she won and wasn't even there, like you're banned from the show for being a POS but here's your $500k sendoff. Dee's unlikable too but she's the main villain of the season and had a ton of storylines, especially with all her allies besides Melissa turning on her, it would have actually been nice seeing Jenny beat her *** right before the final but now it's just going to be weird with the editing

 

Do you think they will even be allowed to mention Dees name in the reunion? I imagine Jennys interview when they obviously ask her about Dee turning on her is going to edited as ****.

They completely cut anyone talking about her last episode, I don't think we'll see any Dee segments at all.

I'm completely fine with that as long as they edit it properly and everything makes sense.. las episode was just a bad one to start with since everything revolved around her but going forward, I'm fine without seeing her face.. I've had enough of Dee.

it's an issue because regardless of whether you like her or not, she was a huge part of this season. now all storylines with Rogan, Johnny, Swayleigh, Jenny, etc. are just going to vanish and this season isn't going to make a lot of sense, so neither will the reunion. im sick of Dee too but she was the main girl this season, not exactly easy to erase

I didn't realize they edited Camila out/under-edited her after the Leroy incident???? They did?????

I didn't realize they edited Camila out/under-edited her after the Leroy incident???? They did?????

Not to the same extent as Dee, I think I read she had 8 confessionals in the final 8 episodes. Compared to Dee who's probably not getting any, while she had like 20 in the unedited version of the last episode alone

I didn't realize they edited Camila out/under-edited her after the Leroy incident???? They did?????

yeah she essentially got 6ish confessionals total after that over like 7 episodes

Couldnt they just do some of Dees confessionals as voice overs? That way shes not shown but the stroylines will make more sense.

Couldnt they just do some of Dees confessionals as voice overs? That way shes not shown but the stroylines will make more sense.

she had 20 confessionals in this week's unedited and im guessing a lot more to come lol. i dont think they're gonna take the time to do that/that would edit really strangely lol

Anybody know the tribunals and who wins this week? Gonna be a weird episode if they cut Dee out again with her and Rogan back in the house

Didnt someone say that Nelson was also shown hall brawl during a promo or trailer?

I want to see a picture of that. 

 

Perhaps. I an see the logic in your comments. However from your spoiler list, the last 2 eliminations before the final are Dee and Rogan. From the trailer, it looks like Dee is in a Hall Brawl elimination. Which I assume could be another double elimination. If so, this means Johnny beat Rogan in a Hall Brawl. 

I take away 2 things, either Rogan and Johnny had some agreement, which I find unlikely. Or Rogan is nothing more than a wannabe CT when it comes to eliminations. CT would never pick a fight with someone who could stand with him. Instead pick on Adam, Davis, and people much smaller than him. At least he is very reputable in eliminations.

Rogan beat on Jay in the Balls in elimination and clearly tried to hurt him. Yet lose to Johnny in a Hall Brawl who has at least 10 years on him. Rogan lost all my respect and is no more than a 2nd rate fraud. That being said, I think once production gets close to a final, all cards are out the window especially if they think they can get an epic elimination right before a Final.

you seriously think bananas woul beat anyone let alone big *** Rogan in Hall Brawl? **** im sure Johnny vsRogan was a puzzle or some shit

Rogan's not that big. I'd say around 190 to 200 pounds tops. Him and Bananas are almost the same size. 

I just watched Dirty 30 over and you couldn't tell me they edited Camila heavily out. She still had confessionals and still made an *** out of herself arguing with Kaliah, Jenna and Tori for two episodes straight after the Leroy incident.

King Cory adding to his already impressive elimination record. Say what you want but NUMBERS DONT LIE! 

I don't think Dee is gonna be a problem this episode because it's a guys elimination and she had 0 confessionals on a guys elimination episode not long ago, all they need to do is edit out the Rogan and her Convo.

I just watched Dirty 30 over and you couldn't tell me they edited Camila heavily out. She still had confessionals and still made an *** out of herself arguing with Kaliah, Jenna and Tori for two episodes straight after the Leroy incident.

she got 2 confessionals in the final that she won **** she was heavily edited out.

They took it to the next level with Dee though, pretty much any confessional and/or scene that has her other than her competing is edited out

 

 

Perhaps. I an see the logic in your comments. However from your spoiler list, the last 2 eliminations before the final are Dee and Rogan. From the trailer, it looks like Dee is in a Hall Brawl elimination. Which I assume could be another double elimination. If so, this means Johnny beat Rogan in a Hall Brawl. 

I take away 2 things, either Rogan and Johnny had some agreement, which I find unlikely. Or Rogan is nothing more than a wannabe CT when it comes to eliminations. CT would never pick a fight with someone who could stand with him. Instead pick on Adam, Davis, and people much smaller than him. At least he is very reputable in eliminations.

Rogan beat on Jay in the Balls in elimination and clearly tried to hurt him. Yet lose to Johnny in a Hall Brawl who has at least 10 years on him. Rogan lost all my respect and is no more than a 2nd rate fraud. That being said, I think once production gets close to a final, all cards are out the window especially if they think they can get an epic elimination right before a Final.

you seriously think bananas woul beat anyone let alone big *** Rogan in Hall Brawl? **** im sure Johnny vsRogan was a puzzle or some shit

Rogan's not that big. I'd say around 190 to 200 pounds tops. Him and Bananas are almost the same size. 

He's like 6' 200 and that's after he's leaned down a ton. Bananas is like 5'9" maybe 10" 185 maybe. But Rogan is more muscle and less fat.

Kaycee, Mattie, & Josh together in Miami.

Josh can't even pregame right 

Him being a prejury boot in a few weeks will be hilarious 

Josh can't even pregame right 

Him being a prejury boot in a few weeks will be hilarious 

Josh and Paul gone in prejury would make my day 

Hope that was water he was pouring into Mattie's mouth.

I just watched Dirty 30 over and you couldn't tell me they edited Camila heavily out. She still had confessionals and still made an *** out of herself arguing with Kaliah, Jenna and Tori for two episodes straight after the Leroy incident.

 

for dirty 30 they just edited out camilas confessionals. The rest of the footage stayed the same. This season with Dee they're also editing out the regular footage of her from the daily, house, and elimination. It's more prominent with Dee because of that. 

I just watched Dirty 30 over and you couldn't tell me they edited Camila heavily out. She still had confessionals and still made an *** out of herself arguing with Kaliah, Jenna and Tori for two episodes straight after the Leroy incident.

 

I remember they even edit out Camila threatened to kill Kailah production putting a security outside of Kailah/Jenna & I think Tori room at night **** 

Thinking about it Camila *** should have been kicked out since lifting the weight to throw it during her racist meltdown against Leroy. The fact that they even rewarded her with appearing on champs vs stars after how horrible she was on dirty 30 

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