I love how John fans have nothing substantial to say when people bring up Mark on Exes, the 45 minutes on Rivals and John cheating with adderall on Rivals 3 and just try to throw insults. Wes is my guy but ive only ever been upset with his loss to Cohutta and Leroy in Exes 2 since he was dominating that season him losing to John isnt a big deal lol Im chillin
They don't have anything to say other than "sIx WiNs, GoAt", without taking into account that 5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy and his performances otherwise have been horrible lol
Out of curiosity, how were "5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy" ?
The Island - He was a massive ***** that season and probably shouldn't have gotten a key, but Kenny and Derrick cut a deal with Evelyn and brought him on their boat. Also, Evelyn, Johnny and Derrick probably put together their boat themselves because Kenny seemed to have no clue lol.
Ruins - Actually came up with some pretty good strategic plans for votes and challenges, especially that first challenge that Wes tried to throw. He was easily the fourth best guy on the Champions team at the end but he beat Dunbar in a physical elimination and completed the final.
Rivals - Won multiple dailies with Tyler, played a good strategic and social game as well. Sure, the fact that production only gave Kenny/Wes a 2 minute headstart was lame, especially given the lead they did have before then but that wasn't the first or last time production has tried to make things closer time-wise in a final. WOTW2 anybody? Also, if anything, production wanted Kenny/Wes to win since this season literally was created because of their rivalry. Not Johnny/Tyler's problem that Kenny/Wes couldn't work together well at the end.
Exes 1 - Won multiple dailies with Camila and essentially dominated the strategic social game with his alliance of Mark/Robin and CT/Diem. Sure he may have cut a deal with Mark but that's a smart move to make. Numerous Challenge competitors have cut deals in the past. Like Cara Maria/Camila in Dirty 30. That final is probably in the top 5 of hardest finals and Johnny/Camila were able to beat two strong teams in Ty/Emily and CT/Diem. It also seemed like for story purposes, production and the fans definitely were rooting for CT/Diem.
Free Agents - Easily his best season. Won multiple dailies, had his back against the wall at several points that season and he won three eliminations. Including two against Jordan and CT. Sure Jordan was at a disadvantage for his, but he could've not gone in but he decided to go for it. That final also is in the top 5 of hardest finals and he was able to win that one.
Rivals 3 - Sure, he got a huge advantage that he and Sarah were the only team that had ever won a final. But it's not his fault production couldn't pair up any other winners. I'm not sure if this is true but I remember Cara Maria saying she was going to be cast on that season but she declined. If she was cast, I think she would've been Wes's partner. Johnny/Sarah dominated that season from all aspects, socially, strategically and competitively. They won multiple dailies and even won an elimination at the end. Him taking the money away from Sarah in the final was a *** move. No getting around that fact.
The Ruins: Wouldnt be a champ since he doesnt win The Island if Abe doesn't leave
Rivals: 45 minutes. He lost by 45 minutes no excuses, if Leroy/Theresa won Exes 2 i would say the same thing if team US won last season I would say the same thing. Kenny and Wes won stop trying to excuse it.
Exes: He did well but Mark threw the elimination to him
FA: His best win no one can say anything about it.
R3: Sarah recently said that production called her telling her she would win with John. Not to mention allthose rival pairs were stretched just for them.
John fans need glasses esepcially you trying to excuse Rivals which was bullshit
I love how John fans have nothing substantial to say when people bring up Mark on Exes, the 45 minutes on Rivals and John cheating with adderall on Rivals 3 and just try to throw insults. Wes is my guy but ive only ever been upset with his loss to Cohutta and Leroy in Exes 2 since he was dominating that season him losing to John isnt a big deal lol Im chillin
They don't have anything to say other than "sIx WiNs, GoAt", without taking into account that 5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy and his performances otherwise have been horrible lol
Out of curiosity, how were "5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy" ?
The Island - He was a massive ***** that season and probably shouldn't have gotten a key, but Kenny and Derrick cut a deal with Evelyn and brought him on their boat. Also, Evelyn, Johnny and Derrick probably put together their boat themselves because Kenny seemed to have no clue lol.
Ruins - Actually came up with some pretty good strategic plans for votes and challenges, especially that first challenge that Wes tried to throw. He was easily the fourth best guy on the Champions team at the end but he beat Dunbar in a physical elimination and completed the final.
Rivals - Won multiple dailies with Tyler, played a good strategic and social game as well. Sure, the fact that production only gave Kenny/Wes a 2 minute headstart was lame, especially given the lead they did have before then but that wasn't the first or last time production has tried to make things closer time-wise in a final. WOTW2 anybody? Also, if anything, production wanted Kenny/Wes to win since this season literally was created because of their rivalry. Not Johnny/Tyler's problem that Kenny/Wes couldn't work together well at the end.
Exes 1 - Won multiple dailies with Camila and essentially dominated the strategic social game with his alliance of Mark/Robin and CT/Diem. Sure he may have cut a deal with Mark but that's a smart move to make. Numerous Challenge competitors have cut deals in the past. Like Cara Maria/Camila in Dirty 30. That final is probably in the top 5 of hardest finals and Johnny/Camila were able to beat two strong teams in Ty/Emily and CT/Diem. It also seemed like for story purposes, production and the fans definitely were rooting for CT/Diem.
Free Agents - Easily his best season. Won multiple dailies, had his back against the wall at several points that season and he won three eliminations. Including two against Jordan and CT. Sure Jordan was at a disadvantage for his, but he could've not gone in but he decided to go for it. That final also is in the top 5 of hardest finals and he was able to win that one.
Rivals 3 - Sure, he got a huge advantage that he and Sarah were the only team that had ever won a final. But it's not his fault production couldn't pair up any other winners. I'm not sure if this is true but I remember Cara Maria saying she was going to be cast on that season but she declined. If she was cast, I think she would've been Wes's partner. Johnny/Sarah dominated that season from all aspects, socially, strategically and competitively. They won multiple dailies and even won an elimination at the end. Him taking the money away from Sarah in the final was a *** move. No getting around that fact.
The Island: Only won because Abe asked to leave ---- Abe probably doesn't volunteer for that face-off if he doesn't have to leave. Derrick has said in the past that's why he went in it because he didn't want to quit.
The Ruins: Wouldnt be a champ since he doesnt win The Island if Abe doesn't leave ---- Can't argue with this. He still might've won the Island but probably not given his awful behavior that season. Also though, Evan just barely made it on to that team. He probably actually should've lost to Brad on the Duel 2.
Rivals: 45 minutes. He lost by 45 minutes no excuses, if Leroy/Theresa won Exes 2 i would say the same thing if team US won last season I would say the same thing. Kenny and Wes won stop trying to excuse it. ---- I'm not trying to excuse anything. It's not his or Tyler's fault that production wanted to make things closer. They took advantage of the situation. If Kenny/Wes were the best, they should've won that second day. Lets not forget that Kenny was awful competitively that season during the dailies and Wes fell apart in the final. Probably didn't help that he decided to stuff rocks down his socks and run.
Exes: He did well but Mark threw the elimination to him ---- Probably but when they had to go again, if Camila and Robin had to face off, Camila would've won. Mark made the smart move to try to get some money for himself.
FA: His best win no one can say anything about it.--- Agreed.
R3: Sarah recently said that production called her telling her she would win with John. Not to mention allthose rival pairs were stretched just for them. ---- Uh how was the pairing stretched for them? They were Rivals because she threw him into elimination when they had been working together. Makes sense to me. Overall though, that cast in general was pretty bad/weak.
John fans need glasses esepcially you trying to excuse Rivals which was bullshit ---- I'm not a Johnny fan. I respect him as a competitor and I don't have a problem if he or anyone else wins. I would prefer other people to win at times but I'm not going to be upset if he wins. If he puts in the work in a season and makes it to the finals and wins, I'm not going to have a problem with that. The only season I don't think he deserved to win was The Island because he was the worst that season and didn't put in work. Outside of being friends with Kenny and Derrick.
I love how John fans have nothing substantial to say when people bring up Mark on Exes, the 45 minutes on Rivals and John cheating with adderall on Rivals 3 and just try to throw insults. Wes is my guy but ive only ever been upset with his loss to Cohutta and Leroy in Exes 2 since he was dominating that season him losing to John isnt a big deal lol Im chillin
They don't have anything to say other than "sIx WiNs, GoAt", without taking into account that 5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy and his performances otherwise have been horrible lol
Out of curiosity, how were "5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy" ?
The Island - He was a m***ive ***** that season and probably shouldn't have gotten a key, but Kenny and Derrick cut a deal with Evelyn and brought him on their boat. Also, Evelyn, Johnny and Derrick probably put together their boat themselves because Kenny seemed to have no clue lol.
Ruins - Actually came up with some pretty good strategic plans for votes and challenges, especially that first challenge that Wes tried to throw. He was easily the fourth best guy on the Champions team at the end but he beat Dunbar in a physical elimination and completed the final.
Rivals - Won multiple dailies with Tyler, played a good strategic and social game as well. Sure, the fact that production only gave Kenny/Wes a 2 minute headstart was lame, especially given the lead they did have before then but that wasn't the first or last time production has tried to make things closer time-wise in a final. WOTW2 anybody? Also, if anything, production wanted Kenny/Wes to win since this season literally was created because of their rivalry. Not Johnny/Tyler's problem that Kenny/Wes couldn't work together well at the end.
Exes 1 - Won multiple dailies with Camila and essentially dominated the strategic social game with his alliance of Mark/Robin and CT/Diem. Sure he may have cut a deal with Mark but that's a smart move to make. Numerous Challenge competitors have cut deals in the past. Like Cara Maria/Camila in Dirty 30. That final is probably in the top 5 of hardest finals and Johnny/Camila were able to beat two strong teams in Ty/Emily and CT/Diem. It also seemed like for story purposes, production and the fans definitely were rooting for CT/Diem.
Free Agents - Easily his best season. Won multiple dailies, had his back against the wall at several points that season and he won three eliminations. Including two against Jordan and CT. Sure Jordan was at a disadvantage for his, but he could've not gone in but he decided to go for it. That final also is in the top 5 of hardest finals and he was able to win that one.
Rivals 3 - Sure, he got a huge advantage that he and Sarah were the only team that had ever won a final. But it's not his fault production couldn't pair up any other winners. I'm not sure if this is true but I remember Cara Maria saying she was going to be cast on that season but she declined. If she was cast, I think she would've been Wes's partner. Johnny/Sarah dominated that season from all aspects, socially, strategically and competitively. They won multiple dailies and even won an elimination at the end. Him taking the money away from Sarah in the final was a *** move. No getting around that fact.
I mean you've essentially outlined a lot of the issues already, but I'll clarify for you:
Island - was literally casted with all of his friends and did SO BADLY politically that he would have been voted off had Abe not asked to go home. That essentially changes the path of his Challenge career because...
Ruins - Should not have been a champ for reason outlined above^. It was easy for him to come up with plans and strategize when 4/7 of the guys on the Champs teams and many of the girls were his best friends already in an alliance. Clearly they're going to do what they want and use the other 3 as scapegoats. Then nearly lost a final to 2 girls. Again, are we impressed with anything this season?
Rivals - No one is arguing that they didn't do well. We're arguing that they would not have made the final had Adam not thrown it. Period. Then on top of it in the final, they take away a 45 minute lead. As Bananasisoverrated said, I would not look at the USA team the same way if they won WOTW2 and same for any other season where they diminish the lead between days of the final. They shouldn't have even been in the final let alone handed a big handicap.
Exes - Again, no one is arguing that they didn't do well, they did. Mark made a deal and threw it and again, they wouldn't have even been in the final.
Free Agents - Earned and only respected win in my book.
Rivals 3 - Production set it up for them to win, as Sarah revealed. Then on top of that he was caught cheating and was actually confronted about it on camera. This was all edited out and he again, was handed a win.
No one is arguing that making deals isn't smart or that he's bad at dailies. He's great at dailies and finals. But he sucks at eliminations and wouldn't have half his wins without deals. They are cheap "wins" when you production covering your *** and have others who play the game fairly and legit, period.
Then we move to this season, he's lost like 7? in a row now. He's being revealed for the fraud that he is and his legacy is getting pretty tarnished and you question why we're suspicious of Wes's motives to suddenly work with Bananas out of nowhere and suddenly wants to throw himself into the elimination when he had no reason to do so? Especially when Zach revealed on WOTW how Johnny operates? Hmmmm. Let's rub those 3 brain cells together and try to think about why we're suspicious here on Vevmo.
I love how John fans have nothing substantial to say when people bring up Mark on Exes, the 45 minutes on Rivals and John cheating with adderall on Rivals 3 and just try to throw insults. Wes is my guy but ive only ever been upset with his loss to Cohutta and Leroy in Exes 2 since he was dominating that season him losing to John isnt a big deal lol Im chillin
They don't have anything to say other than "sIx WiNs, GoAt", without taking into account that 5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy and his performances otherwise have been horrible lol
You think kailah is elite..lol..nobody takes your delusional *** seriously
Um, when did I say that? **** dumb ***
I think Kailah is slightly better than average. I like her for entertainment not because she's an amazing competitor
Say what you want about Johnny but a nearly pushing 40 year old man beating a cast of twenty something year olds this season is impressive and also embarrassing for the other 3 competitors he beat
I love how John fans have nothing substantial to say when people bring up Mark on Exes, the 45 minutes on Rivals and John cheating with adderall on Rivals 3 and just try to throw insults. Wes is my guy but ive only ever been upset with his loss to Cohutta and Leroy in Exes 2 since he was dominating that season him losing to John isnt a big deal lol Im chillin
They don't have anything to say other than "sIx WiNs, GoAt", without taking into account that 5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy and his performances otherwise have been horrible lol
Out of curiosity, how were "5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy" ?
The Island - He was a massive ***** that season and probably shouldn't have gotten a key, but Kenny and Derrick cut a deal with Evelyn and brought him on their boat. Also, Evelyn, Johnny and Derrick probably put together their boat themselves because Kenny seemed to have no clue lol.
Ruins - Actually came up with some pretty good strategic plans for votes and challenges, especially that first challenge that Wes tried to throw. He was easily the fourth best guy on the Champions team at the end but he beat Dunbar in a physical elimination and completed the final.
Rivals - Won multiple dailies with Tyler, played a good strategic and social game as well. Sure, the fact that production only gave Kenny/Wes a 2 minute headstart was lame, especially given the lead they did have before then but that wasn't the first or last time production has tried to make things closer time-wise in a final. WOTW2 anybody? Also, if anything, production wanted Kenny/Wes to win since this season literally was created because of their rivalry. Not Johnny/Tyler's problem that Kenny/Wes couldn't work together well at the end.
Exes 1 - Won multiple dailies with Camila and essentially dominated the strategic social game with his alliance of Mark/Robin and CT/Diem. Sure he may have cut a deal with Mark but that's a smart move to make. Numerous Challenge competitors have cut deals in the past. Like Cara Maria/Camila in Dirty 30. That final is probably in the top 5 of hardest finals and Johnny/Camila were able to beat two strong teams in Ty/Emily and CT/Diem. It also seemed like for story purposes, production and the fans definitely were rooting for CT/Diem.
Free Agents - Easily his best season. Won multiple dailies, had his back against the wall at several points that season and he won three eliminations. Including two against Jordan and CT. Sure Jordan was at a disadvantage for his, but he could've not gone in but he decided to go for it. That final also is in the top 5 of hardest finals and he was able to win that one.
Rivals 3 - Sure, he got a huge advantage that he and Sarah were the only team that had ever won a final. But it's not his fault production couldn't pair up any other winners. I'm not sure if this is true but I remember Cara Maria saying she was going to be cast on that season but she declined. If she was cast, I think she would've been Wes's partner. Johnny/Sarah dominated that season from all aspects, socially, strategically and competitively. They won multiple dailies and even won an elimination at the end. Him taking the money away from Sarah in the final was a *** move. No getting around that fact.
I mean you've essentially outlined a lot of the issues already, but I'll clarify for you:
Island - was literally casted with all of his friends and did SO BADLY politically that he would have been voted off had Abe not asked to go home. That essentially changes the path of his Challenge career because...
Ruins - Should not have been a champ for reason outlined above^. It was easy for him to come up with plans and strategize when 4/7 of the guys on the Champs teams and many of the girls were his best friends already in an alliance. Clearly they're going to do what they want and use the other 3 as scapegoats. Then nearly lost a final to 2 girls. Again, are we impressed with anything this season?
Rivals - No one is arguing that they didn't do well. We're arguing that they would not have made the final had Adam not thrown it. Period. Then on top of it in the final, they take away a 45 minute lead. As Bananasisoverrated said, I would not look at the USA team the same way if they won WOTW2 and same for any other season where they diminish the lead between days of the final. They shouldn't have even been in the final let alone handed a big handicap.
Exes - Again, no one is arguing that they didn't do well, they did. Mark made a deal and threw it and again, they wouldn't have even been in the final.
Free Agents - Earned and only respected win in my book.
Rivals 3 - Production set it up for them to win, as Sarah revealed. Then on top of that he was caught cheating and was actually confronted about it on camera. This was all edited out and he again, was handed a win.
No one is arguing that making deals isn't smart or that he's bad at dailies. He's great at dailies and finals. But he sucks at eliminations and wouldn't have half his wins without deals. They are cheap "wins" when you production covering your *** and have others who play the game fairly and legit, period.
Then we move to this season, he's lost like 7? in a row now. He's being revealed for the fraud that he is and his legacy is getting pretty tarnished and you question why we're suspicious of Wes's motives to suddenly work with Bananas out of nowhere and suddenly wants to throw himself into the elimination when he had no reason to do so? Especially when Zach revealed on WOTW how Johnny operates? Hmmmm. Let's rub those 3 brain cells together and try to think about why we're suspicious here on Vevmo.
You were so cocky coming into this season saying Bananas will never make a final again & if he did he wouldn't stand a chance with all the younger competitors..You would constantly bring up his poor endurance performance at the purge a few seasons ago as the main reason why he had no chance..How does it feel being wrong as per usual? it hurts doesn't it.lol
I love how John fans have nothing substantial to say when people bring up Mark on Exes, the 45 minutes on Rivals and John cheating with adderall on Rivals 3 and just try to throw insults. Wes is my guy but ive only ever been upset with his loss to Cohutta and Leroy in Exes 2 since he was dominating that season him losing to John isnt a big deal lol Im chillin
They don't have anything to say other than "sIx WiNs, GoAt", without taking into account that 5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy and his performances otherwise have been horrible lol
Out of curiosity, how were "5/6 of those wins were cheap and sketchy" ?
The Island - He was a massive ***** that season and probably shouldn't have gotten a key, but Kenny and Derrick cut a deal with Evelyn and brought him on their boat. Also, Evelyn, Johnny and Derrick probably put together their boat themselves because Kenny seemed to have no clue lol.
Ruins - Actually came up with some pretty good strategic plans for votes and challenges, especially that first challenge that Wes tried to throw. He was easily the fourth best guy on the Champions team at the end but he beat Dunbar in a physical elimination and completed the final.
Rivals - Won multiple dailies with Tyler, played a good strategic and social game as well. Sure, the fact that production only gave Kenny/Wes a 2 minute headstart was lame, especially given the lead they did have before then but that wasn't the first or last time production has tried to make things closer time-wise in a final. WOTW2 anybody? Also, if anything, production wanted Kenny/Wes to win since this season literally was created because of their rivalry. Not Johnny/Tyler's problem that Kenny/Wes couldn't work together well at the end.
Exes 1 - Won multiple dailies with Camila and essentially dominated the strategic social game with his alliance of Mark/Robin and CT/Diem. Sure he may have cut a deal with Mark but that's a smart move to make. Numerous Challenge competitors have cut deals in the past. Like Cara Maria/Camila in Dirty 30. That final is probably in the top 5 of hardest finals and Johnny/Camila were able to beat two strong teams in Ty/Emily and CT/Diem. It also seemed like for story purposes, production and the fans definitely were rooting for CT/Diem.
Free Agents - Easily his best season. Won multiple dailies, had his back against the wall at several points that season and he won three eliminations. Including two against Jordan and CT. Sure Jordan was at a disadvantage for his, but he could've not gone in but he decided to go for it. That final also is in the top 5 of hardest finals and he was able to win that one.
Rivals 3 - Sure, he got a huge advantage that he and Sarah were the only team that had ever won a final. But it's not his fault production couldn't pair up any other winners. I'm not sure if this is true but I remember Cara Maria saying she was going to be cast on that season but she declined. If she was cast, I think she would've been Wes's partner. Johnny/Sarah dominated that season from all aspects, socially, strategically and competitively. They won multiple dailies and even won an elimination at the end. Him taking the money away from Sarah in the final was a *** move. No getting around that fact.
I mean you've essentially outlined a lot of the issues already, but I'll clarify for you:
Island - was literally casted with all of his friends and did SO BADLY politically that he would have been voted off had Abe not asked to go home. That essentially changes the path of his Challenge career because...
Ruins - Should not have been a champ for reason outlined above^. It was easy for him to come up with plans and strategize when 4/7 of the guys on the Champs teams and many of the girls were his best friends already in an alliance. Clearly they're going to do what they want and use the other 3 as scapegoats. Then nearly lost a final to 2 girls. Again, are we impressed with anything this season?
Rivals - No one is arguing that they didn't do well. We're arguing that they would not have made the final had Adam not thrown it. Period. Then on top of it in the final, they take away a 45 minute lead. As Bananasisoverrated said, I would not look at the USA team the same way if they won WOTW2 and same for any other season where they diminish the lead between days of the final. They shouldn't have even been in the final let alone handed a big handicap.
Exes - Again, no one is arguing that they didn't do well, they did. Mark made a deal and threw it and again, they wouldn't have even been in the final.
Free Agents - Earned and only respected win in my book.
Rivals 3 - Production set it up for them to win, as Sarah revealed. Then on top of that he was caught cheating and was actually confronted about it on camera. This was all edited out and he again, was handed a win.
No one is arguing that making deals isn't smart or that he's bad at dailies. He's great at dailies and finals. But he sucks at eliminations and wouldn't have half his wins without deals. They are cheap "wins" when you production covering your *** and have others who play the game fairly and legit, period.
Then we move to this season, he's lost like 7? in a row now. He's being revealed for the fraud that he is and his legacy is getting pretty tarnished and you question why we're suspicious of Wes's motives to suddenly work with Bananas out of nowhere and suddenly wants to throw himself into the elimination when he had no reason to do so? Especially when Zach revealed on WOTW how Johnny operates? Hmmmm. Let's rub those 3 brain cells together and try to think about why we're suspicious here on Vevmo.
You were so cocky coming into this season saying Bananas will never make a final again & if he did he wouldn't stand a chance with all the younger competitors..You would constantly bring up his poor endurance performance at the purge a few seasons ago as the main reason why he had no chance..How does it feel being wrong as per usual? it hurts doesn't it.lol
You're impressed he beat Cory and Kyle? **** yes im so hurt.
I don't even know why y'all wasted time on the slow & delayed lol even in the face of concrete evidence, Johnny ***** munchers will whine about CoNSpiRaCy ThEoRieS, ignore everything you explained as proof (the whole Johnny/Zach WOTW shit is really all you need), & then suck him off some more. Those types are gone & there's no saving the delayed. It's 2020.
Man, people do seem to hate/dislike Bananas a ton on this site lol. I mean, if people's knowledge of Bananas only came from here, you'd think he was a guy who only got lucky with any of his Challenge wins, daily wins and eliminations wins.
I'm not a massive Bananas fan by any means but I do respect him as a Challenge competitor and the facets of his game. If Bananas somehow wins next season, I think this site might actually explode lol.
the best is that the Johnny haters on this site don't count his wins on the island & the ruins because they were team wins so it's not impressive to them..But Darrell has 3 big team wins the gauntlet/inferno/inferno2 but he get's praise for those wins..They come up with every excuse in the book..it's actually funny at this point
Noty trying to insert myself into this, but Inferno 2 was only Darrell, Jamie, Mike and Landon (the best 3 guys-1 girl team finale winners we've had btw.)
Anyone who doesn't think this was an orchestrated move is an idiot, especially with Bananas's track record
You're an idiot if you think Weston/Rogan & the 3 other dudes in the final handed of all people Johnny Bananas 500k
I dont think that was the case but production did made sure to eliminated his only threats for the final by giving them stuff that there is no way in **** they would have win in eliminations. Putting him in perfect position against a bunch of idiots on the final that he could beat.
I do think Bananas/Wes had a deal similar to the one he had with Mark on battle of the exes but that's just my opinion.
Okay pink rose maybe stick to actual spoilers instead of conspiracy theories. No one is going to hand Bananas money like that. The difference in Wes sucking in eliminations & not looking like he cares compared to the past is obvious. Wes is no longer on steriods like he was on the Ruins. Any other player that beats CT, Jordan, Wes, Mark Long in eliminations & six final wins would be considered a legend on this show. But not Bananas. If he wins anything on the challenge its considered cheating lol. I find the comments on here ridiculous at this point. Its like why do you guys care so much to make a point of these unproven claims. Smh!
lol no one is forcing you to be on this thread if the comments bother you that much. People don't need to comment based on your approval.
Anyone who doesn't think this was an orchestrated move is an idiot, especially with Bananas's track record
You're an idiot if you think Weston/Rogan & the 3 other dudes in the final handed of all people Johnny Bananas 500k
I dont think that was the case but production did made sure to eliminated his only threats for the final by giving them stuff that there is no way in **** they would have win in eliminations. Putting him in perfect position against a bunch of idiots on the final that he could beat.
I do think Bananas/Wes had a deal similar to the one he had with Mark on battle of the exes but that's just my opinion.
Okay pink rose maybe stick to actual spoilers instead of conspiracy theories. No one is going to hand Bananas money like that. The difference in Wes sucking in eliminations & not looking like he cares compared to the past is obvious. Wes is no longer on steriods like he was on the Ruins. Any other player that beats CT, Jordan, Wes, Mark Long in eliminations & six final wins would be considered a legend on this show. But not Bananas. If he wins anything on the challenge its considered cheating lol. I find the comments on here ridiculous at this point. Its like why do you guys care so much to make a point of these unproven claims. Smh!
That's a valid point. Although i do think Mark Long lost on purpose. But the others no doubt were legit wins.
Anyone who doesn't think this was an orchestrated move is an idiot, especially with Bananas's track record
You're an idiot if you think Weston/Rogan & the 3 other dudes in the final handed of all people Johnny Bananas 500k
I dont think that was the case but production did made sure to eliminated his only threats for the final by giving them stuff that there is no way in **** they would have win in eliminations. Putting him in perfect position against a bunch of idiots on the final that he could beat.
I do think Bananas/Wes had a deal similar to the one he had with Mark on battle of the exes but that's just my opinion.
Okay pink rose maybe stick to actual spoilers instead of conspiracy theories. No one is going to hand Bananas money like that. The difference in Wes sucking in eliminations & not looking like he cares compared to the past is obvious. Wes is no longer on steriods like he was on the Ruins. Any other player that beats CT, Jordan, Wes, Mark Long in eliminations & six final wins would be considered a legend on this show. But not Bananas. If he wins anything on the challenge its considered cheating lol. I find the comments on here ridiculous at this point. Its like why do you guys care so much to make a point of these unproven claims. Smh!
Please take John's **** out of your mouth for.5 seconds we say it's sketchy because he has a sketchy past with Mark throwing him an elimination which Mark said he did and Adam throwing it not to mention production making him and Sarah the only two champ team on R3
Nevermind i thought you were talking about Adam from BOE 2. I realize now you are talking about Adam from Rivals 1
I mean all the guys elims so far were physical and the one time bananas goes in it's luck based? We'll see what kind of elim he beats rogan in but we know it's not going to be physical.
I don't even know why y'all wasted time on the slow & delayed lol even in the face of concrete evidence, Johnny ***** munchers will whine about CoNSpiRaCy ThEoRieS, ignore everything you explained as proof (the whole Johnny/Zach WOTW shit is really all you need), & then suck him off some more. Those types are gone & there's no saving the delayed. It's 2020.
Hopefully Josh so we don't have to see him on the next season of The Challenge. Lol But I can also see Kaycee and Da'Vonne getting contacted to come back.
The Island: Only won because Abe asked to leave
The Ruins: Wouldnt be a champ since he doesnt win The Island if Abe doesn't leave
Rivals: 45 minutes. He lost by 45 minutes no excuses, if Leroy/Theresa won Exes 2 i would say the same thing if team US won last season I would say the same thing. Kenny and Wes won stop trying to excuse it.
Exes: He did well but Mark threw the elimination to him
FA: His best win no one can say anything about it.
R3: Sarah recently said that production called her telling her she would win with John. Not to mention allthose rival pairs were stretched just for them.
John fans need glasses esepcially you trying to excuse Rivals which was bullshit
I mean you've essentially outlined a lot of the issues already, but I'll clarify for you:
Island - was literally casted with all of his friends and did SO BADLY politically that he would have been voted off had Abe not asked to go home. That essentially changes the path of his Challenge career because...
Ruins - Should not have been a champ for reason outlined above^. It was easy for him to come up with plans and strategize when 4/7 of the guys on the Champs teams and many of the girls were his best friends already in an alliance. Clearly they're going to do what they want and use the other 3 as scapegoats. Then nearly lost a final to 2 girls. Again, are we impressed with anything this season?
Rivals - No one is arguing that they didn't do well. We're arguing that they would not have made the final had Adam not thrown it. Period. Then on top of it in the final, they take away a 45 minute lead. As Bananasisoverrated said, I would not look at the USA team the same way if they won WOTW2 and same for any other season where they diminish the lead between days of the final. They shouldn't have even been in the final let alone handed a big handicap.
Exes - Again, no one is arguing that they didn't do well, they did. Mark made a deal and threw it and again, they wouldn't have even been in the final.
Free Agents - Earned and only respected win in my book.
Rivals 3 - Production set it up for them to win, as Sarah revealed. Then on top of that he was caught cheating and was actually confronted about it on camera. This was all edited out and he again, was handed a win.
No one is arguing that making deals isn't smart or that he's bad at dailies. He's great at dailies and finals. But he sucks at eliminations and wouldn't have half his wins without deals. They are cheap "wins" when you production covering your *** and have others who play the game fairly and legit, period.
Then we move to this season, he's lost like 7? in a row now. He's being revealed for the fraud that he is and his legacy is getting pretty tarnished and you question why we're suspicious of Wes's motives to suddenly work with Bananas out of nowhere and suddenly wants to throw himself into the elimination when he had no reason to do so? Especially when Zach revealed on WOTW how Johnny operates? Hmmmm. Let's rub those 3 brain cells together and try to think about why we're suspicious here on Vevmo.
Um, when did I say that? **** dumb ***
I think Kailah is slightly better than average. I like her for entertainment not because she's an amazing competitor
Say what you want about Johnny but a nearly pushing 40 year old man beating a cast of twenty something year olds this season is impressive and also embarrassing for the other 3 competitors he beat
You were so cocky coming into this season saying Bananas will never make a final again & if he did he wouldn't stand a chance with all the younger competitors..You would constantly bring up his poor endurance performance at the purge a few seasons ago as the main reason why he had no chance..How does it feel being wrong as per usual? it hurts doesn't it.lol
I'm not reading all these think pieces but I also believe Bananas was handed this season by production
You're impressed he beat Cory and Kyle? **** yes im so hurt.
Noty trying to insert myself into this, but Inferno 2 was only Darrell, Jamie, Mike and Landon (the best 3 guys-1 girl team finale winners we've had btw.)
lol no one is forcing you to be on this thread if the comments bother you that much. People don't need to comment based on your approval.
That's a valid point. Although i do think Mark Long lost on purpose. But the others no doubt were legit wins.
Nevermind i thought you were talking about Adam from BOE 2. I realize now you are talking about Adam from Rivals 1
I mean all the guys elims so far were physical and the one time bananas goes in it's luck based? We'll see what kind of elim he beats rogan in but we know it's not going to be physical.
Jay vs Asaf wasn't really physical.
no
I don't need to respect Bananas' 7 wins or call him the GOAT.
Cuz I don't like him. And that's that on that.
It's funny how we have these discussions about Bananas when nobody is changing their mind either way.
i cant remember one time ever when someone on vevmo changed another user's opinion on a cast member
its never happened and I doubt it ever will
for real ****
I don't do it to change their mind. I do it to drag Bananas and make his minions look dumb to everyone else, which is fairly easy.
Wonder if any of the recent BB players on the challenge are in the running for BB this summer.
https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/big-brother-22-cbs-eyeing-all-star-season-for-20th-anniversary/
https://youtu.be/G3qUdq094WA
The thumbnail is so cringe
Hopefully Josh so we don't have to see him on the next season of The Challenge. Lol But I can also see Kaycee and Da'Vonne getting contacted to come back.
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