The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

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i **** with them for trying but next time lets just stick with the relic + grenades and call it a day. the red skull twist sucked the life out of many aspects of the game and i'm suprised so many casuals are enjoying the twist just because they're still mad that their saviors jordan an tori had a rough season while cara/paulie/kam/ashley etc. played a better political game than them.

This Wes  Bananas alliance has being boring AF I'm glad it ends on this episode 

I'm not liking the red skull twist either. Bring back last place in a daily goes into elimination, the kill card from Free Agents, and no girls and guys day. Smile

I'm not liking the red skull twist either. Bring back last place in a daily goes into elimination, the kill card from Free Agents, and no girls and guys day.

this.

or the Final Reckoning voting system.

The Final Reckoning voting system flopped harder than the Red Skulls

All they were doing were placing throwaway votes on teams

Would you feel differently about the red skulls if they implemented it later in the game? That way we can get some actual drama in the tribunals

The Final Reckoning voting system flopped harder than the Red Skulls

All they were doing were placing throwaway votes on teams

i thought the FR voting system was good tbh, it involved a lot of strategy/thinking and led to so much good chaos. there were times where throwaway votes ended up backfiring which also made it fun to watch. the only thing i didn't like was that the dailies didn't really matter if you flopped.

i think the final reckoning system would be a lot better with an individual format though so that those shitty 'equalizers' wouldn't play a factor

Although this season hasn't been what we thought.  I'm glad they did the red skull twist.  It is a cool format.  I think it could have worked better if there were more rivals in this season.  I think if you have people who genuinely hate each other it could have been interesting. However, I hope they put this format, along with the team format in the vault for at least another 10 seasons.

No episode this season has produced an episode as great as the laurel vs ninja elim ep last season. Last season wasn't great but it had better moments than this one. 

Because of the politics that teams format usually provide someone always feel backstab or throw a tantrum when they dont have the numbers in that type of format. I also think the living conditions being worse take a lot away from it. On paper breaking them mentally sounds like drama but it just got them in their feelings that some had to talk to psychologists or therapist which hasn't even be mention.

This season people are volunteering and at the end it's a win win situation if they lose they get out early instead of being stuck in a dirty bunker that smell like pee with lack of oxygen/no sun or they get their skull for the final.

Hell even the very Lukewarm fox show kicking and screaming had a much better incentive to go into eliminations, the winner of the elimination round got to choose a team to go directly in at the mext mission. They could do that on the challenge but make it a life sheild thing

 

No episode this season has produced an episode as great as the laurel vs ninja elim ep last season. Last season wasn't great but it had better moments than this one. 

Because of the politics that teams format usually provide someone always feel backstab or throw a tantrum when they dont have the numbers in that type of format. I also think the living conditions being worse take a lot away from it. On paper breaking them mentally sounds like drama but it just got them in their feelings that some had to talk to psychologists or therapist which hasn't even be mention.

This season people are volunteering and at the end it's a win win situation if they lose they get out early instead of being stuck in a dirty bunker that smell like pee with lack of oxygen/no sun or they get their skull for the final.

I agree. I feel like most peoples mindset was I'm going in now so at least if I lose I can just go home instead of waiting until the end and not getting a red skull. The Red Skull idea on paper sounds good but it just makes things boring. Last season 80% of the drama was from voting/deliberation and now this season all we have had is Nelson saying out of pocket things and being called out every deliberation lol 

They need to come up with better formats because the best seasons are the ones where most of the drama is voting/game drama. 

Honestly I think the red skull twist would've been amazing had it been kept a secret until like the end lol 

Imagine getting to the final 7 or 8 per gender and almost no one has been in eliminations except the same 1 or 2 people, then saying there's only 2 eliminations left and everyone else after that has to compete in a purge for 1 skull.

i **** with them for trying but next time lets just stick with the relic + grenades and call it a day. the red skull twist sucked the life out of many aspects of the game and i'm suprised so many casuals are enjoying the twist just because they're still mad that their saviors jordan an tori had a rough season while cara/paulie/kam/ashley etc. played a better political game than them.

 

Not everyone who enjoys the twist is a casual. I love knowing ill see every competitor in there atheist one time

Wes or Rogan eliminating John would have saved this season for me 

Wes or Rogan eliminating John would have saved this season for me 

Tonight's episode is going to be so cringe. Definitely prioritizing something else

Honestly I think the red skull twist would've been amazing had it been kept a secret until like the end lol 

Imagine getting to the final 7 or 8 per gender and almost no one has been in eliminations except the same 1 or 2 people, then saying there's only 2 eliminations left and everyone else after that has to compete in a purge for 1 skull.

 

thats what im saying! It could have been executed so much better. Telling them right away made this whole season's deliberations boring

i **** with them for trying but next time lets just stick with the relic + grenades and call it a day. the red skull twist sucked the life out of many aspects of the game and i'm suprised so many casuals are enjoying the twist just because they're still mad that their saviors jordan an tori had a rough season while cara/paulie/kam/ashley etc. played a better political game than them.

 

Not everyone who enjoys the twist is a casual. I love knowing ill see every competitor in there atheist one time

 

i **** with them for trying but next time lets just stick with the relic + grenades and call it a day. the red skull twist sucked the life out of many aspects of the game and i'm suprised so many casuals are enjoying the twist just because they're still mad that their saviors jordan an tori had a rough season while cara/paulie/kam/ashley etc. played a better political game than them.

 

Not everyone is a atheist

Tonight's episode is going to be so cringe. Definitely prioritizing something else

True but at least it's Trivia we are bound to get some funny answers 

Anyone know who wins the trivia / tribunal? I imagine Johnny gets house vote and Wes either convinces Tribunal or is in it. 

i wonder what johnny beats wes at lol probably a crapshoot

i wonder what johnny beats wes at lol probably a crapshoot

Some variation of Wrecking Wall I think, looks a little different 

It was said to be similar to Wrecking Wall

The Red skull twist is so unnecessary IMO The people who didn't see eliminations last season aren't even here this season.

Wish Wes cared more about winning than making good tv this man really went down to face John who is like 5 time champ (I don't count Rivals) because he thought it would make good tv when Kyle, Josh and even Cory were still in the game smh 

The Red skull twist is so unnecessary IMO The people who didn't see eliminations last season aren't even here this season.

Not to mention on team seasons a lot of people don't see eliminations 

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Honestly I think the red skull twist would've been amazing had it been kept a secret until like the end lol 

Imagine getting to the final 7 or 8 per gender and almost no one has been in eliminations except the same 1 or 2 people, then saying there's only 2 eliminations left and everyone else after that has to compete in a purge for 1 skull.

this is stupid, imagine getting to the end and playing an excellent game when the whole point is to make it to the end just to find out because you played well you now have to go into an elimination with most likely your alliance members? the whole twist is stupid IMO but not telling them until the end would have made me completely give up on the show.

Bananas volunteering himself makes it seem way more likely Wes threw it

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