The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion) - Part II

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richjoe92 wrote:

Redemptions should count as elimination wins or loses. It still an opportunity to get back in the "main game". Although to me, this is all part of the same game, given that everyone has an opportunity to participate in the redemption twist.

I bet some of the people who say it shouldn't count will be the same one's adding the win to Kam record when she wins the 3rd or 4th redemption challenge lol. 

I think it's all within the confines of the game, so I think they should count. I wouldn't count losing a purge as an elimination loss, but pretty much anything 1on1 battle to stay in the game or in FR's case, go back to the main house, should count.

LoverBox wrote:

richjoe92 wrote: Redemptions should count as elimination wins or loses. It still an opportunity to get back in the "main game". Although to me, this is all part of the same game, given that everyone has an opportunity to participate in the redemption twist.

I bet some of the people who say it shouldn't count will be the same one's adding the win to Kam record when she wins the 3rd or 4th redemption challenge lol. 

I think it's all within the confines of the game, so I think they should count. I wouldn't count losing a purge as an elimination loss, but pretty much anything 1on1 battle to stay in the game or in FR's case, go back to the main house, should count.

Battle of the Exile were online, played in a different location, and lesser games. These are the same as regular eliminations. They should count. 

richjoe92 wrote:

Redemptions should count as elimination wins or loses. It still an opportunity to get back in the "main game". Although to me, this is all part of the same game, given that everyone has an opportunity to participate in the redemption twist.

I bet some of the people who say it shouldn't count will be the same one's adding the win to Kam record when she wins the 3rd or 4th redemption challenge lol. 

Uh lol. I wouldn’t.

Kams 5-0 anyway Smile

Eliminations eliminate you from the game and redemptions get you back into it. I'm not grouping them together they have completely different functions. I mean there could be a separate tally for wins/losses but they aren't the same. 

richjoe92 wrote:

LoverBox wrote:

richjoe92 wrote: Redemptions should count as elimination wins or loses. It still an opportunity to get back in the "main game". Although to me, this is all part of the same game, given that everyone has an opportunity to participate in the redemption twist.

I bet some of the people who say it shouldn't count will be the same one's adding the win to Kam record when she wins the 3rd or 4th redemption challenge lol. 

I think it's all within the confines of the game, so I think they should count. I wouldn't count losing a purge as an elimination loss, but pretty much anything 1on1 battle to stay in the game or in FR's case, go back to the main house, should count.

Battle of the Exile were online, played in a different location, and lesser games. These are the same as regular eliminations. They should count. 

KA and Jenna had to stack blocks for an elimination. Back in old school days, they had a slider puzzle as an elimination. we had a shitty fire ball soccer match for Dirty 30. "lesser games" have been apart of The Challenge elimination rounds for many seasons, so to me, I would count those Redemption wins/loses to their record. if they win, they stay in the game, if they lose they get eliminated.

But to each their own. Either way, they still count, whether you put an asterisk for those that want to separate it. or if you don't. Either way, Kam is THAT ***** and Nat just ******* sucks.

Eliminations eliminate you from the game and redemptions get you back into it.

and Purges are done at a main challenge, not at an elim area.

Smh.

I count em and this is coming from a Nat stan. 

I count em and this is coming from a Nat stan. 

 

we know how you do

richjoe92 wrote:

LoverBox wrote:

richjoe92 wrote: Redemptions should count as elimination wins or loses. It still an opportunity to get back in the "main game". Although to me, this is all part of the same game, given that everyone has an opportunity to participate in the redemption twist.

I bet some of the people who say it shouldn't count will be the same one's adding the win to Kam record when she wins the 3rd or 4th redemption challenge lol. 

I think it's all within the confines of the game, so I think they should count. I wouldn't count losing a purge as an elimination loss, but pretty much anything 1on1 battle to stay in the game or in FR's case, go back to the main house, should count.

Battle of the Exile were online, played in a different location, and lesser games. These are the same as regular eliminations. They should count. 

pole wrestle and knot so fast is regular eliminations

natfan42 wrote:

richjoe92 wrote:

LoverBox wrote:
richjoe92 wrote: Redemptions should count as elimination wins or loses. It still an opportunity to get back in the "main game". Although to me, this is all part of the same game, given that everyone has an opportunity to participate in the redemption twist.

I bet some of the people who say it shouldn't count will be the same one's adding the win to Kam record when she wins the 3rd or 4th redemption challenge lol. 

I think it's all within the confines of the game, so I think they should count. I wouldn't count losing a purge as an elimination loss, but pretty much anything 1on1 battle to stay in the game or in FR's case, go back to the main house, should count.

Battle of the Exile were online, played in a different location, and lesser games. These are the same as regular eliminations. They should count. 

KA and Jenna had to stack blocks for an elimination. Back in old school days, they had a slider puzzle as an elimination. we had a shitty fire ball soccer match for Dirty 30. "lesser games" have been apart of The Challenge elimination rounds for many seasons, so to me, I would count those Redemption wins/loses to their record. if they win, they stay in the game, if they lose they get eliminated.

exiles weren't even part of the actual show tho, they were online only. 

richjoe92 wrote:

natfan42 wrote:

richjoe92 wrote:
LoverBox wrote:
richjoe92 wrote: Redemptions should count as elimination wins or loses. It still an opportunity to get back in the "main game". Although to me, this is all part of the same game, given that everyone has an opportunity to participate in the redemption twist.

I bet some of the people who say it shouldn't count will be the same one's adding the win to Kam record when she wins the 3rd or 4th redemption challenge lol. 

I think it's all within the confines of the game, so I think they should count. I wouldn't count losing a purge as an elimination loss, but pretty much anything 1on1 battle to stay in the game or in FR's case, go back to the main house, should count.

Battle of the Exile were online, played in a different location, and lesser games. These are the same as regular eliminations. They should count. 

KA and Jenna had to stack blocks for an elimination. Back in old school days, they had a slider puzzle as an elimination. we had a shitty fire ball soccer match for Dirty 30. "lesser games" have been apart of The Challenge elimination rounds for many seasons, so to me, I would count those Redemption wins/loses to their record. if they win, they stay in the game, if they lose they get eliminated.

exiles weren't even part of the actual show tho, they were online only. 

They were part of the show. Those online exclusive scenes pertained to Exes 2. Not just some random non-cannon clip. So They were very much a part in Exes 2 format, regardless if it was online.

The events that occurred at Exiles and at the Redemption house/elimination have a direct impact in your game. So that is why I count them.

That's just how I perceive them.

If you're gonna count redemption challeneges, are you gonna count Champs vs Pros eliminations? And if you do, are you gonna count their wins as legitimate Challenge wins?

IMO, there's nothing wrong with keep the records separate.

If you're gonna count redemption challeneges, are you gonna count Champs vs Pros eliminations? And if you do, are you gonna count their wins as legitimate Challenge wins?IMO, there's nothing wrong with keep the records separate.

In my opinion, CvsS count separately for wins and eliminations. It’s a spin-off, not the actual series. But redemptions should count because they’re actually part of the current season. That’s just how I view them though.

Aspiring wrote:

If you're gonna count redemption challeneges, are you gonna count Champs vs Pros eliminations? And if you do, are you gonna count their wins as legitimate Challenge wins?IMO, there's nothing wrong with keep the records separate.

In my opinion, CvsS count separately for wins and eliminations. It’s a spin-off, not the actual series. But redemptions should count because they’re actually part of the current season. That’s just how I view them though.

Nobody would have the need to add/stretch/omit anything for Kam. Her win-to-loss ratio is great regardless. Lol If anything, people are steady trying to take away her wins.

I just know there better be a good bit of that "outrage" the casuals love throwing  to her once everyone else sees Natalie/Paulie make it to the final. 

Nobody would have the need to add/stretch/omit anything for Kam. Her win-to-loss ratio is great regardless. Lol If anything, people are steady trying to take away her wins.I just know there better be a good bit of that "outrage" the casuals love throwing  to her once everyone else sees Natalie/Paulie make it to the final. 

Apparently that’s what the haters are doing for that purge challenge. They been waiting for that moment to do that 

- nvm

Eliminations eliminate you from the game and redemptions get you back into it. I'm not grouping them together they hatve completely different functions. I mean there could be a separate tally for wins/losses but they aren't the same. 

What made Cory attack Tony ?

Anyone in here knows ?

I gotta hear about this....

What made Cory attack Tony ?

Anyone in here knows ?

I gotta hear about this....

Nobody would have the need to add/stretch/omit anything for Kam. Her win-to-loss ratio is great regardless. Lol If anything, people are steady trying to take away her wins.I just know there better be a good bit of that "outrage" the casuals love throwing  to her once everyone else sees Natalie/Paulie make it to the final. 

you and I both know why they stay discrediting Warrior Empress but praise others like Victoria Dehel. But it’s ok, you and I also know that we been praising Queen Kam since AYTO so we the real ones #TheWinningTeam *googly eye emoji* 

Kam’s really bringing Kayleigh down smh my queen deserves better

Kam’s really bringing Kayleigh down smh my queen deserves better

if it wasn’t for Kam Kayleigh would have quit by now just like on Vendettas

Graphik wrote:

Nobody would have the need to add/stretch/omit anything for Kam. Her win-to-loss ratio is great regardless. Lol If anything, people are steady trying to take away her wins.I just know there better be a good bit of that "outrage" the casuals love throwing  to her once everyone else sees Natalie/Paulie make it to the final. 

you and I both know why they stay discrediting Warrior Empress but praise others like Victoria Dehel. But it’s ok, you and I also know that we been praising Queen Kam since AYTO so we the real ones #TheWinningTeam *googly eye emoji* 

You already know! #TheWinningTeam

Kam’s really bringing Kayleigh down smh my queen deserves better

LIES! If it wasn't for Queen Kam you wouldn't even know Kayleigh was there. Lol

Lets not get it twisted. Kayleigh been killing it this season thanks to Kam.

When does the reunion film?...I'm sure it'll be Day, Jozae, Paulie, Nat, Cara, & Bananas vs everyone else.

When does the reunion film?...I'm sure it'll be Day, Jozae, Paulie, Nat, Cara, & Bananas vs everyone else.

that’s half the cast it feels like should be even. Only Shane/Amanda/Ashley actually care enough to fight them. The rest don’t care enough or have other storylines to talk about 

Amanda only dislikes Cara, Bananas, and Zach from this season

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