The Challenge: Champs vs. Stars - Over the Edge and Under a Bus

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Gucci Mane wrote:

Yall do know KVM just likes to argue right? Lol and yall take the bait.

I'm dead serious.  this board constantly makes people into something they aren't.  Kam's the latest example of that.  Just like the Tori hate is overboard.   When people get praise they don't deserve or haven't earned (see Marie for example) it's going to drive me to hate them.   People have said so much about Kam that isn't true.  My personal favorite was about how intelligent she was...that was false.    I just want a strong female to join the cast so we don't have to pretend girls like Kam, Marie, Amanda and Slyvia are borderline elite.

They are tho .......... The new Emily ,Laurel,Rachel,Evelyn

kvm1977 wrote:

KlounV3 wrote:KVM, how was Kam supposed to save herself

Beat Brooke...she also could have jumped ship and worked with Daniel & the stars.   Anyone had the ability to make the move.   Wes thought he had Louise.  Watch him jump now

No you can't use beat Brooke because the debate is about how she could've played better to not go in. She obviously tried, but no one is beating that Brolic *****.Why should she jump ship when she was told to her face she secured Daniel? She should've had the numbers to be safe, because she was told that. If I'm safe, I'm not gonna turn my back on 10 people. That would be stupid. So, ok. Did you want another attempt?

But why just assume someone is telling you the truth just because they promise? Basic reality show rule of thumb, most people are probably lieing to you 

kvm1977 wrote:

KlounV3 wrote:KVM, how was Kam supposed to save herself

Beat Brooke...she also could have jumped ship and worked with Daniel & the stars.   Anyone had the ability to make the move.   Wes thought he had Louise.  Watch him jump now

No you can't use beat Brooke because the debate is about how she could've played better to not go in. She obviously tried, but no one is beating that Brolic *****.Why should she jump ship when she was told to her face she secured Daniel? She should've had the numbers to be safe, because she was told that. If I'm safe, I'm not gonna turn my back on 10 people. That would be stupid. So, ok. Did you want another attempt?

Why would she have jumped ship?  Simple math.   6 > 5.   Why would she believe Daniel when she's not actually working on him?  She underestimated him and Louise clearly.  Once you go in beat the ***** you're going against.   You're actually proving my point.  This is just like Jemmye having to explain to her why she needed to vote Marie.   So simple yet beyond her grasp.  If I was a champ I would have made a deal with the stars immediately and then let it play out

kvm1977 wrote:

Gucci Mane wrote:Yall do know KVM just likes to argue right? Lol and yall take the bait.

I'm dead serious.  this board constantly makes people into something they aren't.  Kam's the latest example of that.  Just like the Tori hate is overboard.   When people get praise they don't deserve or haven't earned (see Marie for example) it's going to drive me to hate them.   People have said so much about Kam that isn't true.  My personal favorite was about how intelligent she was...that was false.    I just want a strong female to join the cast so we don't have to pretend girls like Kam, Marie, Amanda and Slyvia are borderline elite.

They are tho .......... The new Emily ,Laurel,Rachel,Evelyn

Right--this level of stupidity right here

I'm sad because Ashley M is starting to annoy me too lol.

Tori strikes me as one of those girls who calls themselves quirky for attention. 

They're turning Tori into Sarah which will give her longevity even if she is annoying

Tori strikes me as one of those girls who calls themselves quirky for attention. 

she reminds me of jessica from new girl but almost worse

MalikOnFleek wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Gucci Mane wrote:Yall do know KVM just likes to argue right? Lol and yall take the bait.

I'm dead serious.  this board constantly makes people into something they aren't.  Kam's the latest example of that.  Just like the Tori hate is overboard.   When people get praise they don't deserve or haven't earned (see Marie for example) it's going to drive me to hate them.   People have said so much about Kam that isn't true.  My personal favorite was about how intelligent she was...that was false.    I just want a strong female to join the cast so we don't have to pretend girls like Kam, Marie, Amanda and Slyvia are borderline elite.

They are tho .......... The new Emily ,Laurel,Rachel,Evelyn

Right--this level of stupidity right here

You right ...davonne is the new laurel 

I'm more wondering why people think kam should have trusted *****, after they all saw and admitted tgat it's champs vs stars, they all know the champs plan on pagonging the stars, and everyon has been opeb about the divide. This isnt like wes and Louise, kam and him just met, she shouldn't have expected things to just work out.

I just dont want to see Tori try to Milly Rock again....ever. and the Hulk Hogan impersonation was cringe af

Challenge 17 wrote:

Tori strikes me as one of those girls who calls themselves quirky for attention. 

They're turning Tori into Sarah which will give her longevity even if she is annoying

I loved Sarah, but tori is worse. Sarah wasn't looking for attention, she was just odd, Tori is all "look at me I'm quirky, heres a hulk hogan costume 

KlounV3 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

KlounV3 wrote:KVM, how was Kam supposed to save herself

Beat Brooke...she also could have jumped ship and worked with Daniel & the stars.   Anyone had the ability to make the move.   Wes thought he had Louise.  Watch him jump now

No you can't use beat Brooke because the debate is about how she could've played better to not go in. She obviously tried, but no one is beating that Brolic *****.Why should she jump ship when she was told to her face she secured Daniel? She should've had the numbers to be safe, because she was told that. If I'm safe, I'm not gonna turn my back on 10 people. That would be stupid. So, ok. Did you want another attempt?

But why just assume someone is telling you the truth just because they promise? Basic reality show rule of thumb, most people are probably lieing to you 

This still isn't reason enough to completely do a 180 on half the cast. If she jumped, it's only a matter a time before she's the one Champ in a sea of Stars, which is a worse position than where she was to begin with. I think the dumbest thing you can do is flip into the lowest on the totem pole position. Even if she had the slightest inkling he was lying, why flip- they've never done a tiebreaker like that before.

I just dont want to see Tori try to Milly Rock again....ever. and the Hulk Hogan impersonation was cringe af

Wait ***?

Oh nvm. He still thinks DysenTori and Ashley handed her wins for no reason. Gnite.

Exactly. Don't waste your time lmaoooooooo

kvm1977 wrote:

Challenge 17 wrote:Tori strikes me as one of those girls who calls themselves quirky for attention. 

They're turning Tori into Sarah which will give her longevity even if she is annoying

I loved Sarah, but tori is worse. Sarah wasn't looking for attention, she was just odd, Tori is all "look at me I'm quirky, heres a hulk hogan costume 

I don't disagree about Tori being worse but that's what production wants from her IMO.   I blame Tony(a) for those costumes

Challenge 17 wrote:

KlounV3 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
KlounV3 wrote:KVM, how was Kam supposed to save herself

Beat Brooke...she also could have jumped ship and worked with Daniel & the stars.   Anyone had the ability to make the move.   Wes thought he had Louise.  Watch him jump now

No you can't use beat Brooke because the debate is about how she could've played better to not go in. She obviously tried, but no one is beating that Brolic *****.Why should she jump ship when she was told to her face she secured Daniel? She should've had the numbers to be safe, because she was told that. If I'm safe, I'm not gonna turn my back on 10 people. That would be stupid. So, ok. Did you want another attempt?

But why just assume someone is telling you the truth just because they promise? Basic reality show rule of thumb, most people are probably lieing to you 

This still isn't reason enough to completely do a 180 on half the cast. If she jumped, it's only a matter a time before she's the one Champ in a sea of Stars, which is a worse position than where she was to begin with. I think the dumbest thing you can do is flip into the lowest on the totem pole position. Even if she had the slightest inkling he was lying, why flip- they've never done a tiebreaker like that before.

Im not saying she should, I'm saying she put way more trust in him tham she should have 

I just dont want to see Tori try to Milly Rock again....ever. and the Hulk Hogan impersonation was cringe af

Shit wrong quote

Anyway, this a big circle. She should have made deals! *Kam makes deals leading to her getting voted in* Well, dumb ***** had to rely on a man because she can't make deals to save herself. She should've made a deal with the Stars! *Makes deal with star* But why would she trust that was truth!

????

Have a great night.

Gucci Mane wrote:

Yall do know KVM just likes to argue right? Lol and yall take the bait.

I'm dead serious.  this board constantly makes people into something they aren't.  Kam's the latest example of that.  Just like the Tori hate is overboard.   When people get praise they don't deserve or haven't earned (see Marie for example) it's going to drive me to hate them.   People have said so much about Kam that isn't true.  My personal favorite was about how intelligent she was...that was false.    I just want a strong female to join the cast so we don't have to pretend girls like Kam, Marie, Amanda and Slyvia are borderline elite.

that reminds me of the time you tried to make jenn g into some political mastermind when they werent lol. just saying you are guilty of this too.

kvm1977 wrote:

Gucci Mane wrote:Yall do know KVM just likes to argue right? Lol and yall take the bait.

I'm dead serious.  this board constantly makes people into something they aren't.  Kam's the latest example of that.  Just like the Tori hate is overboard.   When people get praise they don't deserve or haven't earned (see Marie for example) it's going to drive me to hate them.   People have said so much about Kam that isn't true.  My personal favorite was about how intelligent she was...that was false.    I just want a strong female to join the cast so we don't have to pretend girls like Kam, Marie, Amanda and Slyvia are borderline elite.

that reminds me of the time you tried to make jenn g into some political mastermind when they werent lol. just saying you are guilty of this too.

Oop.

Oh yea, she's also a ***** for talking to a man out of wedlock!

I'm sad because Ashley M is starting to annoy me too lol.

She's gotten a taste of the winner entitlement and it isn't a good look for her. 

KlounV3 wrote:

Oh nvm. He still thinks DysenTori and Ashley handed her wins for no reason. Gnite.

Exactly. Don't waste your time lmaoooooooo

Anyway, this a big circle. She should have made deals! *Kam makes deals leading to her getting voted in* Well, dumb ***** had to rely on a man because she can't make deals to save herself. She should've made a deal with the Stars! *Makes deal with star* But why would she trust that was truth!????Have a great night.

lmaooo I hate you

Kam needs someone to help her with her social game, shes gotten thrown in 3 times and was tricked by a simple "I promise" like come on you're better than falling for that.

So what should she have done then? Because it seems to me that no matter what she did she's gonna get shit from it.

So what should she have done then?

We already went there, no point was proven.

Debut Album wrote:

So what should she have done then?

We already went there, no point was proven.

I mean they have all the answers. They should have one...

So what should she have done then?

nothing, she was simply outplayed. Although if she didn't try to get ***** on her side in the first place then she doesn't become a targe and I see tori or aneesa thrown in 

KlounV3 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:So what should she have done then?

We already went there, no point was proven.

I mean they have all the answers. They should have one...

The closest was "Beat Brooke"

like... Yea? Hmmmmm she's so stupid for not even considering that. Dumb *****.

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