Camilla may not be racist but she feels some type of way about black people. Remember the whole blackface incident on Exes 1? And then she pulls this ****? Yeah. It's clear as day.
Second of all I don't like the N word at all. I don't care if the ending Er or A. It's a word that doesn't need to be uttered. But I do understand the mentality of why it's okay for black people and noone else to use it. Calinks put it perfectly IMO.
Calinks wrote:With that understanding here are the rules. If you aren't black, you don't say it. The only exceptions being that you grew up in a culture with Black people where it was acceptable and even then you need to be very careful how you use it. Is it fair that Black people can say it openly in most cases and not be scolded for it? Technically, no. Should you be overly concerned about that? No. If I could trade a broken history for an entire race of people in the Unitied States for the inablitly to not say one word tha'ts not part of my everyday culture anyway, that's a trade I will make every day.
Even if you grew up in a culture with black people if you aren't black you shouldn't say it. It's an innapropriate word no matter the -er or the -a ending. No matter the intention if you actually care about your friends you respect them enough not to use a word that was used to supress their ancestors for centuries.
NO ONE should say it. You can't expect a white person that listens to hip hop and rap to not quote that word while singing or rapping the song like a black person would. The word needs to be dropped
thank you! thats what i was trying to say and i hope it comes across as such.
Dirty line from the episode "leroy's riding bananas, Derrick's riding bananas Jordan's riding bananas" it really changes it when you don't say coattails
Dirty line from the episode "leroy's riding bananas, Derrick's riding bananas Jordan's riding bananas" it really changes it when you don't say coattails
Calinks wrote:With that understanding here are the rules. If you aren't black, you don't say it. The only exceptions being that you grew up in a culture with Black people where it was acceptable and even then you need to be very careful how you use it. Is it fair that Black people can say it openly in most cases and not be scolded for it? Technically, no. Should you be overly concerned about that? No. If I could trade a broken history for an entire race of people in the Unitied States for the inablitly to not say one word tha'ts not part of my everyday culture anyway, that's a trade I will make every day.
Even if you grew up in a culture with black people if you aren't black you shouldn't say it. It's an innapropriate word no matter the -er or the -a ending. No matter the intention if you actually care about your friends you respect them enough not to use a word that was used to supress their ancestors for centuries.
NO ONE should say it. You can't expect a white person that listens to hip hop and rap to not quote that word while singing or rapping the song like a black person would. The word needs to be dropped
I dont like the word and wish this was the case but it wont happen, not anytime soon. There are black families who have been saying it since the days of slavery, its is absoluitly apart of their everyday speech. The word is no different from various other words of endearment. Those people will not stop saying the word cold turkey. Just wont happen, they feel very strongy about the word in that way and they will continue to use it. I cringe a bit inside when I see parents with little toddlers throiwn the word around like crazy but I understand that that is who they are and where raised to be. They use it and their kids will continue to use it. Its always going to be an issue. I have seen inner city kids of all races use it in this way, they all grew up with it, againt it is engrained in their culture it is spoken everyday, they wont stop using it. The solace is that the context they use it in is not derogatory. It is very different when someone like Camila uses it to hurt Leroy.
challengermary wrote:You don't need to be aggressive and physical to be racist? Racist people can go their whole lives without getting physical, doesn't make them any less racist.
right? So when a white person says ***** clamly to another black person they know are they racist? Because from what I've been witnessing they are not until it's "aggressive"...
Is not about "aggressive", is about the intention. Using a word with no ill intention is very different then using it to hurt someone, since the latter have a lot of implication and thought behind it that actually has to do with your judgment and opinion about others and/or topic. However, I do agree that certain words shouldn't be said, period, but those two scenarios you mentioned are very different, imo.
imo it doesnt matter about intention. if youre not blaxk don't say it. period point blank.
if hip hop culture were exclusively black like it effectively used to be, this would be valid. unfortunately it's not.
hip hop culture and the n word are not mutuallyexculsive.
um no ****** shit? Was this supposed to be intelligible?This is exactly why it's acceptable for a non-black person to say the n word ****. Can't allow non-black persons to engage in a culture where that word is common vocabulary and then turn around say well it shouldn't be said at all or they can't say it.
On top of that I see quoting a song as different. Its music, a piece of art, yes a White person is very likely going to say it that situation, especially if they are alone. Its a necessary evil of the word being used in music. Again I dont like it but I am realistiic to know that that is the way the world works and again the intent is not to attack or harm someone in a racial way.
Johnny is a peice of shit for what he did throwing the pillow at Camilla knowing she was blacked out and would go "Camillinator". That was VERY messed up of him. Having said that there are no words or excuses for her reaction. Good thing Leroy is one of the calmest men there. Can you imagine if she came after Nelson like that? They would have edited to make him look like the bad guy. Thank goodness Leroy gave them nothing to show in the editting room because I fully believe if it had been someone else who had given them a reaction we would be seeing a much different version on TV right now and might even have had to endure Camilla for many more seasons to come.
Camila is out there being a racist and an idiot and you're here mad at bananas? You're a ***** **** that pillow throw Bananas was EPIC.
So I thought shitmila freaked out on the all stars special. Does she do something even worse there? I'm really scared they will still bring her back even after this as some bullshit redemption storyline. We need to bombard MTV with tweets & shit saying we never want to see her ***** face again.
She does a lot of terrible things on on the special, it wasn't just one thing
I don't think I've EVER wanted a person I've never personally met to get so thoroughly knuckled up......I've never hit a woman in my life & likely still wouldn't have actually hit her but I would've had to go to a hotel or go home that very night to stop myself from snatching her by her fur & slinging her in the pool or somewhere.
That's probably reality TV is likely not in the cards for me in this lifetime. I have NO issues being the stereotype that all melanin-rich men seem to get regardless of if they're a Leroy, a Jason, a Dean, a Buddha (ILNY) or a Shamar (Survivor). I couldn't even imagine what would transpire if I was on a show & there was a male spouting off at the mouth like these******* Trashmila, the GBOGH *******, Aryan from BB15, etc.
************* are getting entirely too comfortable (even on this site because I definitely catch that slick shit) & I just have to pray and meditate because only The Most High knows......
challengermary wrote:You don't need to be aggressive and physical to be racist? Racist people can go their whole lives without getting physical, doesn't make them any less racist.
right? So when a white person says ***** clamly to another black person they know are they racist? Because from what I've been witnessing they are not until it's "aggressive"...
Is not about "aggressive", is about the intention. Using a word with no ill intention is very different then using it to hurt someone, since the latter have a lot of implication and thought behind it that actually has to do with your judgment and opinion about others and/or topic. However, I do agree that certain words shouldn't be said, period, but those two scenarios you mentioned are very different, imo.
imo it doesnt matter about intention. if youre not blaxk don't say it. period point blank.
if hip hop culture were exclusively black like it effectively used to be, this would be valid. unfortunately it's not.
hip hop culture and the n word are not mutuallyexculsive.
um no ****** shit? Was this supposed to be intelligible?This is exactly why it's acceptable for a non-black person to say the n word ****. Can't allow non-black persons to engage in a culture where that word is common vocabulary and then turn around say well it shouldn't be said at all or they can't say it.
Calinks wrote:With that understanding here are the rules. If you aren't black, you don't say it. The only exceptions being that you grew up in a culture with Black people where it was acceptable and even then you need to be very careful how you use it. Is it fair that Black people can say it openly in most cases and not be scolded for it? Technically, no. Should you be overly concerned about that? No. If I could trade a broken history for an entire race of people in the Unitied States for the inablitly to not say one word tha'ts not part of my everyday culture anyway, that's a trade I will make every day.
Even if you grew up in a culture with black people if you aren't black you shouldn't say it. It's an innapropriate word no matter the -er or the -a ending. No matter the intention if you actually care about your friends you respect them enough not to use a word that was used to supress their ancestors for centuries.
NO ONE should say it. You can't expect a white person that listens to hip hop and rap to not quote that word while singing or rapping the song like a black person would. The word needs to be dropped
I dont like the word and wish this was the case but it wont happen, not anytime soon. There are black families who have been saying it since the days of slavery, its is absoluitly apart of their everyday speech. The word is no different from various other words of endearment. Those people will not stop saying the word cold turkey. Just wont happen, they feel very strongy about the word in that way and they will continue to use it. I cringe a bit inside when I see parents with little toddlers throiwn the word around like crazy but I understand that that is who they are and where raised to be. They use it and their kids will continue to use it. Its always going to be an issue. I have seen inner city kids of all races use it in this way, they all grew up with it, againt it is engrained in their culture it is spoken everyday, they wont stop using it. The solace is that the context they use it in is not derogatory. It is very different when someone like Camila uses it to hurt Leroy.
again im sorry if my words were misconstrued but i dont think there is a place for anyone who isn't black to say it. i understand its ingrained in black culture and will contiuned to be used.
I don't think I've EVER wanted a person I've never personally met to get so thoroughly knuckled up......I've never hit a woman in my life & likely still wouldn't have actually hit her but I would've had to go to a hotel or go home that very night to stop myself from snatching her by her fur & slinging her in the pool or somewhere.That's probably reality TV is likely not in the cards for me in this lifetime. I have NO issues being the stereotype that all melanin-rich men seem to get regardless of if they're a Leroy, a Jason, a Dean, a Buddha (ILNY) or a Shamar (Survivor). I couldn't even imagine what would transpire if I was on a show & there was a male spouting off at the mouth like these******* Trashmila, the GBOGH *******, Aryan from BB15, **************** are getting entirely too comfortable (even on this site because I definitely catch that slick shit) & I just have to pray and meditate because only The Most High knows......
On top of that I see quoting a song as different. Its music, a piece of art, yes a White person is very likely going to say it that situation, especially if they are alone. Its a necessary evil of the word being used in music. Again I dont like it but I am realistiic to know that that is the way the world works and again the intent is not to attack or harm someone in a racial way.
even if it is used regularly in music those who have their wits about them should know its still not a word you should use ever.
I don't think I've EVER wanted a person I've never personally met to get so thoroughly knuckled up......I've never hit a woman in my life & likely still wouldn't have actually hit her but I would've had to go to a hotel or go home that very night to stop myself from snatching her by her fur & slinging her in the pool or somewhere.That's probably reality TV is likely not in the cards for me in this lifetime. I have NO issues being the stereotype that all melanin-rich men seem to get regardless of if they're a Leroy, a Jason, a Dean, a Buddha (ILNY) or a Shamar (Survivor). I couldn't even imagine what would transpire if I was on a show & there was a male spouting off at the mouth like these******* Trashmila, the GBOGH *******, Aryan from BB15, **************** are getting entirely too comfortable (even on this site because I definitely catch that slick shit) & I just have to pray and meditate because only The Most High knows......
Is some of this directed towards me lol
Lmaoooooo what? Why would it be directed towards you?
Let me say this.
Camilla may not be racist but she feels some type of way about black people. Remember the whole blackface incident on Exes 1? And then she pulls this ****? Yeah. It's clear as day.
Second of all I don't like the N word at all. I don't care if the ending Er or A. It's a word that doesn't need to be uttered. But I do understand the mentality of why it's okay for black people and noone else to use it. Calinks put it perfectly IMO.
On a less serious note, could Nelson & Hunter have been any gayer this episode, like I'm shocked they didn't kiss goodbye lol
They were so cute together!
Cory and Nelson are cuter though.
thank you! thats what i was trying to say and i hope it comes across as such.
Yes.
cory nelson and hunter were all cute together :)
Dirty line from the episode "leroy's riding bananas, Derrick's riding bananas Jordan's riding bananas" it really changes it when you don't say coattails
Yes they are.
I feel like I would like Nelson/Hunter/Cory a little more if they were smarter.
OMG it does.
#dirtythoughts
I see the beauty in everybody! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
And I can hear Semi saying to me now "oh baby you're so cute" and she starts laughing lmaoooooooooo
I dont like the word and wish this was the case but it wont happen, not anytime soon. There are black families who have been saying it since the days of slavery, its is absoluitly apart of their everyday speech. The word is no different from various other words of endearment. Those people will not stop saying the word cold turkey. Just wont happen, they feel very strongy about the word in that way and they will continue to use it. I cringe a bit inside when I see parents with little toddlers throiwn the word around like crazy but I understand that that is who they are and where raised to be. They use it and their kids will continue to use it. Its always going to be an issue. I have seen inner city kids of all races use it in this way, they all grew up with it, againt it is engrained in their culture it is spoken everyday, they wont stop using it. The solace is that the context they use it in is not derogatory. It is very different when someone like Camila uses it to hurt Leroy.
this is not the hill you want to die on Infamous
On top of that I see quoting a song as different. Its music, a piece of art, yes a White person is very likely going to say it that situation, especially if they are alone. Its a necessary evil of the word being used in music. Again I dont like it but I am realistiic to know that that is the way the world works and again the intent is not to attack or harm someone in a racial way.
Welp this went left quick. Oops.
Infamous wyd lol
Her fake apologies are not over from this season lol She is already writing the next few ones for this one
someone said she threatened to kill kailah? lol
Camila is out there being a racist and an idiot and you're here mad at bananas? You're a ***** **** that pillow throw Bananas was EPIC.
Bananas is a GOAT.
She does a lot of terrible things on on the special, it wasn't just one thing
Wowwwwww I didn't know JayTee still existed lol
I don't think I've EVER wanted a person I've never personally met to get so thoroughly knuckled up......I've never hit a woman in my life & likely still wouldn't have actually hit her but I would've had to go to a hotel or go home that very night to stop myself from snatching her by her fur & slinging her in the pool or somewhere.
That's probably reality TV is likely not in the cards for me in this lifetime. I have NO issues being the stereotype that all melanin-rich men seem to get regardless of if they're a Leroy, a Jason, a Dean, a Buddha (ILNY) or a Shamar (Survivor). I couldn't even imagine what would transpire if I was on a show & there was a male spouting off at the mouth like these******* Trashmila, the GBOGH *******, Aryan from BB15, etc.
************* are getting entirely too comfortable (even on this site because I definitely catch that slick shit) & I just have to pray and meditate because only The Most High knows......
Excuse me?
again im sorry if my words were misconstrued but i dont think there is a place for anyone who isn't black to say it. i understand its ingrained in black culture and will contiuned to be used.
Is some of this directed towards me lol
Could y'all not with the spoilers. How is Kailah even eligible for that show :/
even if it is used regularly in music those who have their wits about them should know its still not a word you should use ever.
My favorite challenge fan account. Always with the FACTS. ❤️.
Lmaoooooo what? Why would it be directed towards you?
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