The Challenge: Dirty 30 (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Again, I don't hate Cara...never have.  She's slightly annoying but a strong competitor.  I ONLY CARE ABOUT COMPETITION.

Camilla fans will be like BUT SHE ****** CORY!!! SHE AINT A RACIST! lmao

So Kailah was asked who she wanted to send to redemption. She knew she was sending people to redemption, not directly home. She chose Cara. She knew Cara was going to compete against other people in redemption and had to good chance of coming back. It wasn't "surprise, Cara didn't really go home, she magically came back!" It being redemption was not something Cara benfitted from in any way. Kailah knew that she was going to redemption, not home, so it wasn't a twist at that point. You can say that Cara benefited from the Bloodbath (she sure as hell did, all the finalists did), but not from this one.

Mind you, it was a good gamemove on kailha's part, it just backfiredwhen Cara wonher eliminayion anyway. Cara has no reason to be angry anymore, she got the last laugh, she reached the final whileKailah didn't. Unless something else happened that we don't know about that gave Cara a reason to act this crazy. I like her, but she is very immature. 

The nerve of Trashmila to really believe she's untouchable.

Agreed this is on tony however Camilla preaches building up women and self esteem etc then continues to hook up with men she knows are not single. Part of building up women is not bedding their men or hurting them by her actions. She is not 100% free of blame. I believe they will show some of her antics but definitely not all or the outrage will be too strong to bring her back and she is definitely returning.

Jenn edit please Jenn edit please

So Kailah was asked who she wanted to send to redemption. She knew she was sending people to redemption, not directly home. She chose Cara. She knew Cara was going to compete against other people in redemption and had to good chance of coming back. It wasn't "surprise, Cara didn't really go home, she magically came back!" It being redemption was not something Cara benfitted from in any way. Kailah knew that she was going to redemption, not home, so it wasn't a twist at that point. You can say that Cara benefited from the Bloodbath (she sure as hell did, all the finalists did), but not from this one.Mind you, it was a good gamemove on kailha's part, it just backfiredwhen Cara wonher eliminayion anyway. Cara has no reason to be angry anymore, she got the last laugh, she reached the final whileKailah didn't. Unless something else happened that we don't know about that gave Cara a reason to act this crazy. I like her, but she is very immature. 

the first part is wrong. They're separate twists regardless of how you spin it. 

So Kailah was asked who she wanted to send to redemption. She knew she was sending people to redemption, not directly home. She chose Cara. She knew Cara was going to compete against other people in redemption and had to good chance of coming back. It wasn't "surprise, Cara didn't really go home, she magically came back!" It being redemption was not something Cara benfitted from in any way. Kailah knew that she was going to redemption, not home, so it wasn't a twist at that point. You can say that Cara benefited from the Bloodbath (she sure as hell did, all the finalists did), but not from this one.Mind you, it was a good gamemove on kailha's part, it just backfiredwhen Cara wonher eliminayion anyway. Cara has no reason to be angry anymore, she got the last laugh, she reached the final whileKailah didn't. Unless something else happened that we don't know about that gave Cara a reason to act this crazy. I like her, but she is very immature. 

anything new w/ camilla ?

Jenn edit please Jenn edit please

Camila won't get the Jenn edit--production probably regrets that edit more than anything they've done.

Camila won't get the Jenn edit--production probably regrets that edit more than anything they've done.

You're probably right. Isn't that edit the reason she hasn't come back since? 

ofc CM is going to continue to be petty with Kailah, HELLO LMAO SHE WANTS A PARTNER FOR RIVALS IV 

ofc CM is going to continue to be petty with Kailah, HELLO LMAO SHE WANTS A PARTNER FOR RIVALS IV 

Nobody needs Rivals 4. They might as well cancel the show.

So Kailah was asked who she wanted to send to redemption. She knew she was sending people to redemption, not directly home. She chose Cara. She knew Cara was going to compete against other people in redemption and had to good chance of coming back. It wasn't "surprise, Cara didn't really go home, she magically came back!" It being redemption was not something Cara benfitted from in any way. Kailah knew that she was going to redemption, not home, so it wasn't a twist at that point. You can say that Cara benefited from the Bloodbath (she sure as hell did, all the finalists did), but not from this one.Mind you, it was a good gamemove on kailha's part, it just backfiredwhen Cara wonher eliminayion anyway. Cara has no reason to be angry anymore, she got the last laugh, she reached the final whileKailah didn't. Unless something else happened that we don't know about that gave Cara a reason to act this crazy. I like her, but she is very immature. 

Very well put and my thoughts exactly. Cara needs to get the **** over it. Plus, Kailah gave her a storyline this season. ❤️

Based on what I have Cara saw Kailah as a mini her they work out together at a point while filming this show, so I guess she expected the other one to kiss her ***? Lol

Based on what I have Cara saw Kailah as a mini her they work out together at a point while filming this show, so I guess she expected the other one to kiss her ***? Lol

Maybe she thought they were forming a legitimate friendship and was hurt to learn Kailah didn't care about her at all and it was all a game to her? I don't know, just trying to make sense of her meltdown. She really needs to take several seasons off and get therapy. She doesn't seem to be well mentally right now.

Based on what I have Cara saw Kailah as a mini her they work out together at a point while filming this show, so I guess she expected the other one to kiss her ***? Lol

Okay you're making no sense now Pink like you're sounding like a casual. This makes it sound like they were close. How is not stabbing her in the back and staying true to her word how is that Cara wanting Kailah to kiss her *** ?.

Because it's a game...an individual game.  The objective to win not get to the end with your friends.  Team challenges are sadly day.

PinkRose wrote:

Based on what I have Cara saw Kailah as a mini her they work out together at a point while filming this show, so I guess she expected the other one to kiss her ***? Lol

Okay you're making no sense now Pink like you're sounding like a casual. This makes it sound like they were close. How is not stabbing her in the back and staying true to her word how is that Cara wanting Kailah to kiss her *** ?.

It does seem that Cara believed they were close and was hurt and disappointed. But it still doesn't make sense to keep *****ing about it at this point, weeks later. Unless the betrayal was bigger than we think. I would understand it if they hooked up and then Kailah pulledthe double cross - that would be awful, but it obviously didn't happen.

Ok, now I need Cara and Kailah to hook up. Can't take the image out of my head.

Maybe she thought they were forming a legitimate friendship and was hurt to learn Kailah didn't care about her at all and it was all a game to her? I don't know, just trying to make sense of her meltdown. She really needs to take several seasons off and get therapy. She doesn't seem to be well mentally right now.

She seems a little childish over it but not sure how got to her needing mental help. She's taking it way too personal but so would the majority of the people. Its a bad trait but it isnt that big of a deal. 

If Cara Maria backed Sarah with her move on Exes 2 (which I know she did) then there isn't anything to discuss.

PinkRose wrote:

Based on what I have Cara saw Kailah as a mini her they work out together at a point while filming this show, so I guess she expected the other one to kiss her ***? Lol

Okay you're making no sense now Pink like you're sounding like a casual. This makes it sound like they were close. How is not stabbing her in the back and staying true to her word how is that Cara wanting Kailah to kiss her *** ?.

Because she didn't expect Kailah to make any moved against her and just because they work out together it doesn't mean they were close.

Because it's a game...an individual game.  The objective to win not get to the end with your friends.  Team challenges are sadly day.

Cara does need to get over it cause at the end of the day, she was the one who was in the final. 

No need to be still mad over spilled milk. If anything, her still being mad helps feed into the narrative Laurel kind of started that the show has gone to Caras head

If Cara Maria backed Sarah with her move on Exes 2 (which I know she did) then there isn't anything to discuss.

She did...So then where does CM get off getting pissy?

Because it's a game...an individual game.  The objective to win not get to the end with your friends.  Team challenges are sadly day.

I mean i can agree with it being a strong move if she backs it up. If she later put Camila against Jemmye/Britni when she could put have put Jenna/Toro then she basically put Cara in redemption then gave her easy competition. I guess we'll see how much power she actually had after.

Well we know the alliance consisted of at least Cara, Camila, Jenna and Kailah. There's only 3 female spots in the final and only 1 person is getting first. One of them had to be expendable and it looks like Kailah decided it's Cara considering she's a big threat

Jenna was betrayed by Jemmye who she saved and she isn't crying about it!!!

audreyhorne wrote:

Maybe she thought they were forming a legitimate friendship and was hurt to learn Kailah didn't care about her at all and it was all a game to her? I don't know, just trying to make sense of her meltdown. She really needs to take several seasons off and get therapy. She doesn't seem to be well mentally right now.

She seems a little childish over it but not sure how got to her needing mental help. She's taking it way too personal but so would the majority of the people. Its a bad trait but it isnt that big of a deal. 

A good therapist can help you grow up and mature. I do believe Cara needs that kind of help. I'm not suggesting she's at Tonya/Robin level, but you don't need to get to that level to need mental health help. It's recommended to get it way before tyoi get there. 

I'm not just talking about this case. Cara is socially awkward, has a tendency to overreact to stressful situations and doesn't seem to be able to control her own emotions. She even said herself after Bloodlines that she would take a long break and get therapy. I hope she ends up doing it. She also needs to good friend who is honest with her and tells her when she's being stupid. I'm happy she has Camila now (still better than Laurel), but she's only encouraging this type of behaviour.

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