The Challenge: Dirty 30 (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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this whole madison alyssa thing is so sad for the children , those two kids should not only be able to spend time with their dad but also with each other , it's just a sad situation and add to it alyssa airing all to the public , it's bad

Tony and Alyssa were on the outs when he left for the challenge so it's no surprise he cheated. Kudos to Madison for not replying!

And why isn't she bashing Camilla? It's not Madison's fault he cheAted with Camilla

bring that shit to the social media thread lol

And why isn't she bashing Camilla? It's not Madison's fault he cheAted with Camilla

the camila and tony hook up is looking more and more like a drunken kiss nothing more.cuz if more happenend ,alyssa does not seem like she has a problem with airing out dirty laundry ,also the spoiler team here said that they had a camera in their face so makes no sense for camila to deny it unless they were drunk and just made out .

And why isn't she bashing Camilla? It's not Madison's fault he cheAted with Camilla

It's also not Camila's fault he cheated with Camila. It's Tony's dault only. He was the one who had made a commitment and he decided to break it. He was the one who disrespected her while Camila had no personal relationship with her and didn't even know her. But women like Alyssawill always blame the other woman insted of holding their men accountable for their actions.

kvm1977 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
kooki wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
damon wrote:
kooki wrote:
Gucci Mane wrote:Kooki I swear you twist the narrative to fit your own bias.

how did I twist it!!

Because you didn't agree with the mass. You literally said what was true. People were saying Cara benefited from the twist when in reality she didn't. Kailah actually did and it just didn't pan out for her.

Cara actually beneifted from one twist and was hurt by another.  Same story with Kailah.  Can we all deal with reality?Cara was hurt by the auto-elimination but helped by redemption.  Kailah the opposite and Kailah was hurt by the final twist. To simply say Kailah beneifted is a sign that people either are still  clueless or just stupid.I really don't like any of the girls on this cast (other than V who had no chance to win) but these comments are getting worse by the hour around here 

what I'm saying is that people on here have been complaining so much about how the twists ruined kailah's game and helped cara .while in fact kailah wasn't hurt by a twist cara was . that twist at the end was applied to everyone unlike cara getting sent to redemption without losing . kailah simply Lost and the other girls beat her in that final challenge, she was not singled out with that twist ,the other girls were just better than her and she got eliminated 

Again--this is looking at things through only one-side and that's a reason most people don't like you.  You twist words to create scenarios that support your stance.  One can't say that a bloodbath at the end isn't a twist that didn't hurt Kailah.  It clearly did. Personally, I'm glad Cara & Camila made the final because I only care about gameplay, competition and game related drama.  But when some of you are making comments about Kailah beause you're upset she took a shot at Cara (like a good gameplayer that isn't afraid would) is pure stupidity.

She isn't twisting anymore. PinkRose literally said that "if Cara wins this season she will be the most undeserving winner in the history of the show" because she benefittef from the twist and lost and elimination. None of that is true, but somehow kooki is twisting her words when she points it out. When Kailah sent her into redemption she already knew that redemption existed, therefore Cara competing in it and coming back wasn't a twist anymore. It's not like Kailah thought she was sending her home directly.You guys are disgusting with how you attacking kooki constantly when she is being nothing but respectful to everyone and just pointing out her opinions. You may not egree with her but there is absolutely no reason to be so mean and rude just because she doesn't follow the popular discourse here. I guess you all feel strong in the group. 

Ummm--I disagree with literally everyone here at times.  EVERYONE.  Some of the people I disagree with most often are the ones I like the most.  I can't help you if you don't see when someone is twisting things.  Anyone upset that Kailah took a shot at Cara is simply being emotional.  It was a good game move regardless of the results.  Just like if Sarah lost the final on Exes 2 she still would have made the right game move in sending in Bananas.  There were countless twists this sseason--some that benefitted Kailah & Cara--some that hurt Kailah & Cara.  I have no porblem with anyone rooting for anyone.  I have a problem when they are fixated on a person and alter reality to make them appear like the victim. 

I am not saying that her putting up cara is not a great move but then cara has the right to still be upset if they were working together and helped her get far to then be betrayed by her and we don't know the extent of it ,once we watch the show we'll know why cara and camila are still upset . and about the twist hurting kailah , yeah sure she was a little hurt with that bloodbath but not to same extent cara was when she was sent off to redemption , kailah could of secured a spot on the final if she beat camila or cara or tori so she simply lost unlike cara who because of a twist was singled out  sent into redemption  and by someone she's been in an alliance with .

Anyone can be upset by any decision and if you want to use that against people in future challenges I have no issue with it but to carry it outside the game is ridiculous.  Play the game.  Get revenge in the game.  Taking it outside is unneeded IMO

You can say the negative aspect of the twist hurt Cara more.  That's fine but the twists both helped and hurt both Cara and Kailah.  The fact neither lost an elimination and one was in redemption while the other didn't run the final proves that.

TrueTea wrote:

And why isn't she bashing Camilla? It's not Madison's fault he cheAted with Camilla

It's also not Camila's fault he cheated with Camila. It's Tony's dault only. He was the one who had made a commitment and he decided to break it. He was the one who disrespected her while Camila had no personal relationship with her and didn't even know her. But women like Alyssawill always blame the other woman insted of holding their men accountable for their actions.

This x1000

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kvm1977 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
Tbone123 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
kooki wrote:God, it's a straight up dictatorship in here .'' if you don't like the people we like and you don't hate the people we hate , we don't want to talk to you anymore'' . LOL #calmdown #it'sarealityshow

True.

Really now? 

I mean. I have been attacked for liking or disliking certain people so....

No, people have a tendency to attack you because you're inconsistent and hypocritical.

As is alot of people on this forum. 

Everybody on this forum is inconsistent and hypocritical. People will attack some castmembers and then praise others for the exact same shit. They will make fun of people trying to fit into the "cool kids" ehile forming their own cool kids groups themselves. Then they call each orher hypocritical.

And wait..Camilla is being racist now? 

I swear this hoe is a piece of ******* work. 

What did Camila say exactly to Leroy which was racist ?

kooki wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
kooki wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
damon wrote:
kooki wrote:
Gucci Mane wrote:Kooki I swear you twist the narrative to fit your own bias.

how did I twist it!!

Because you didn't agree with the mass. You literally said what was true. People were saying Cara benefited from the twist when in reality she didn't. Kailah actually did and it just didn't pan out for her.

Cara actually beneifted from one twist and was hurt by another.  Same story with Kailah.  Can we all deal with reality?Cara was hurt by the auto-elimination but helped by redemption.  Kailah the opposite and Kailah was hurt by the final twist. To simply say Kailah beneifted is a sign that people either are still  clueless or just stupid.I really don't like any of the girls on this cast (other than V who had no chance to win) but these comments are getting worse by the hour around here 

what I'm saying is that people on here have been complaining so much about how the twists ruined kailah's game and helped cara .while in fact kailah wasn't hurt by a twist cara was . that twist at the end was applied to everyone unlike cara getting sent to redemption without losing . kailah simply Lost and the other girls beat her in that final challenge, she was not singled out with that twist ,the other girls were just better than her and she got eliminated 

Again--this is looking at things through only one-side and that's a reason most people don't like you.  You twist words to create scenarios that support your stance.  One can't say that a bloodbath at the end isn't a twist that didn't hurt Kailah.  It clearly did. Personally, I'm glad Cara & Camila made the final because I only care about gameplay, competition and game related drama.  But when some of you are making comments about Kailah beause you're upset she took a shot at Cara (like a good gameplayer that isn't afraid would) is pure stupidity.

She isn't twisting anymore. PinkRose literally said that "if Cara wins this season she will be the most undeserving winner in the history of the show" because she benefittef from the twist and lost and elimination. None of that is true, but somehow kooki is twisting her words when she points it out. When Kailah sent her into redemption she already knew that redemption existed, therefore Cara competing in it and coming back wasn't a twist anymore. It's not like Kailah thought she was sending her home directly.You guys are disgusting with how you attacking kooki constantly when she is being nothing but respectful to everyone and just pointing out her opinions. You may not egree with her but there is absolutely no reason to be so mean and rude just because she doesn't follow the popular discourse here. I guess you all feel strong in the group. 

Ummm--I disagree with literally everyone here at times.  EVERYONE.  Some of the people I disagree with most often are the ones I like the most.  I can't help you if you don't see when someone is twisting things.  Anyone upset that Kailah took a shot at Cara is simply being emotional.  It was a good game move regardless of the results.  Just like if Sarah lost the final on Exes 2 she still would have made the right game move in sending in Bananas.  There were countless twists this sseason--some that benefitted Kailah & Cara--some that hurt Kailah & Cara.  I have no porblem with anyone rooting for anyone.  I have a problem when they are fixated on a person and alter reality to make them appear like the victim. 

I am not saying that her putting up cara is not a great move but then cara has the right to still be upset if they were working together and helped her get far to then be betrayed by her and we don't know the extent of it ,once we watch the show we'll know why cara and camila are still upset . and about the twist hurting kailah , yeah sure she was a little hurt with that bloodbath but not to same extent cara was when she was sent off to redemption , kailah could of secured a spot on the final if she beat camila or cara or tori so she simply lost unlike cara who because of a twist was singled out  sent into redemption  and by someone she's been in an alliance with .

Anyone can be upset by any decision and if you want to use that against people in future challenges I have no issue with it but to carry it outside the game is ridiculous.  Play the game.  Get revenge in the game.  Taking it outside is unneeded IMOYou can say the negative aspect of the twist hurt Cara more.  That's fine but the twists both helped and hurt both Cara and Kailah.  The fact neither lost an elimination and one was in redemption while the other didn't run the final proves that.

cara did not benefit from the twist though how can you say that , the twist was to send someone to redemption without elimination so cara did not benefit she had to win redemption to comeback in the game 

kvm1977 wrote:

kooki wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
kooki wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
damon wrote:
kooki wrote:
Gucci Mane wrote:Kooki I swear you twist the narrative to fit your own bias.

how did I twist it!!

Because you didn't agree with the mass. You literally said what was true. People were saying Cara benefited from the twist when in reality she didn't. Kailah actually did and it just didn't pan out for her.

Cara actually beneifted from one twist and was hurt by another.  Same story with Kailah.  Can we all deal with reality?Cara was hurt by the auto-elimination but helped by redemption.  Kailah the opposite and Kailah was hurt by the final twist. To simply say Kailah beneifted is a sign that people either are still  clueless or just stupid.I really don't like any of the girls on this cast (other than V who had no chance to win) but these comments are getting worse by the hour around here 

what I'm saying is that people on here have been complaining so much about how the twists ruined kailah's game and helped cara .while in fact kailah wasn't hurt by a twist cara was . that twist at the end was applied to everyone unlike cara getting sent to redemption without losing . kailah simply Lost and the other girls beat her in that final challenge, she was not singled out with that twist ,the other girls were just better than her and she got eliminated 

Again--this is looking at things through only one-side and that's a reason most people don't like you.  You twist words to create scenarios that support your stance.  One can't say that a bloodbath at the end isn't a twist that didn't hurt Kailah.  It clearly did. Personally, I'm glad Cara & Camila made the final because I only care about gameplay, competition and game related drama.  But when some of you are making comments about Kailah beause you're upset she took a shot at Cara (like a good gameplayer that isn't afraid would) is pure stupidity.

She isn't twisting anymore. PinkRose literally said that "if Cara wins this season she will be the most undeserving winner in the history of the show" because she benefittef from the twist and lost and elimination. None of that is true, but somehow kooki is twisting her words when she points it out. When Kailah sent her into redemption she already knew that redemption existed, therefore Cara competing in it and coming back wasn't a twist anymore. It's not like Kailah thought she was sending her home directly.You guys are disgusting with how you attacking kooki constantly when she is being nothing but respectful to everyone and just pointing out her opinions. You may not egree with her but there is absolutely no reason to be so mean and rude just because she doesn't follow the popular discourse here. I guess you all feel strong in the group. 

Ummm--I disagree with literally everyone here at times.  EVERYONE.  Some of the people I disagree with most often are the ones I like the most.  I can't help you if you don't see when someone is twisting things.  Anyone upset that Kailah took a shot at Cara is simply being emotional.  It was a good game move regardless of the results.  Just like if Sarah lost the final on Exes 2 she still would have made the right game move in sending in Bananas.  There were countless twists this sseason--some that benefitted Kailah & Cara--some that hurt Kailah & Cara.  I have no porblem with anyone rooting for anyone.  I have a problem when they are fixated on a person and alter reality to make them appear like the victim. 

I am not saying that her putting up cara is not a great move but then cara has the right to still be upset if they were working together and helped her get far to then be betrayed by her and we don't know the extent of it ,once we watch the show we'll know why cara and camila are still upset . and about the twist hurting kailah , yeah sure she was a little hurt with that bloodbath but not to same extent cara was when she was sent off to redemption , kailah could of secured a spot on the final if she beat camila or cara or tori so she simply lost unlike cara who because of a twist was singled out  sent into redemption  and by someone she's been in an alliance with .

Anyone can be upset by any decision and if you want to use that against people in future challenges I have no issue with it but to carry it outside the game is ridiculous.  Play the game.  Get revenge in the game.  Taking it outside is unneeded IMOYou can say the negative aspect of the twist hurt Cara more.  That's fine but the twists both helped and hurt both Cara and Kailah.  The fact neither lost an elimination and one was in redemption while the other didn't run the final proves that.

cara did not benefit from the twist though how can you say that , the twist was to send someone to redemption without elimination so cara did not benefit she had to win redemption to comeback in the game 

Not to mention the two people who were sent to Redemption via the twist ended up winning their way back in anyway, so you can assume that the same shit would have happened had that twist not even happened in terms of the rest of the cast going home.

kvm1977 wrote:

kooki wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
kooki wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
damon wrote:
kooki wrote:
Gucci Mane wrote:Kooki I swear you twist the narrative to fit your own bias.

how did I twist it!!

Because you didn't agree with the mass. You literally said what was true. People were saying Cara benefited from the twist when in reality she didn't. Kailah actually did and it just didn't pan out for her.

Cara actually beneifted from one twist and was hurt by another.  Same story with Kailah.  Can we all deal with reality?Cara was hurt by the auto-elimination but helped by redemption.  Kailah the opposite and Kailah was hurt by the final twist. To simply say Kailah beneifted is a sign that people either are still  clueless or just stupid.I really don't like any of the girls on this cast (other than V who had no chance to win) but these comments are getting worse by the hour around here 

what I'm saying is that people on here have been complaining so much about how the twists ruined kailah's game and helped cara .while in fact kailah wasn't hurt by a twist cara was . that twist at the end was applied to everyone unlike cara getting sent to redemption without losing . kailah simply Lost and the other girls beat her in that final challenge, she was not singled out with that twist ,the other girls were just better than her and she got eliminated 

Again--this is looking at things through only one-side and that's a reason most people don't like you.  You twist words to create scenarios that support your stance.  One can't say that a bloodbath at the end isn't a twist that didn't hurt Kailah.  It clearly did. Personally, I'm glad Cara & Camila made the final because I only care about gameplay, competition and game related drama.  But when some of you are making comments about Kailah beause you're upset she took a shot at Cara (like a good gameplayer that isn't afraid would) is pure stupidity.

She isn't twisting anymore. PinkRose literally said that "if Cara wins this season she will be the most undeserving winner in the history of the show" because she benefittef from the twist and lost and elimination. None of that is true, but somehow kooki is twisting her words when she points it out. When Kailah sent her into redemption she already knew that redemption existed, therefore Cara competing in it and coming back wasn't a twist anymore. It's not like Kailah thought she was sending her home directly.You guys are disgusting with how you attacking kooki constantly when she is being nothing but respectful to everyone and just pointing out her opinions. You may not egree with her but there is absolutely no reason to be so mean and rude just because she doesn't follow the popular discourse here. I guess you all feel strong in the group. 

Ummm--I disagree with literally everyone here at times.  EVERYONE.  Some of the people I disagree with most often are the ones I like the most.  I can't help you if you don't see when someone is twisting things.  Anyone upset that Kailah took a shot at Cara is simply being emotional.  It was a good game move regardless of the results.  Just like if Sarah lost the final on Exes 2 she still would have made the right game move in sending in Bananas.  There were countless twists this sseason--some that benefitted Kailah & Cara--some that hurt Kailah & Cara.  I have no porblem with anyone rooting for anyone.  I have a problem when they are fixated on a person and alter reality to make them appear like the victim. 

I am not saying that her putting up cara is not a great move but then cara has the right to still be upset if they were working together and helped her get far to then be betrayed by her and we don't know the extent of it ,once we watch the show we'll know why cara and camila are still upset . and about the twist hurting kailah , yeah sure she was a little hurt with that bloodbath but not to same extent cara was when she was sent off to redemption , kailah could of secured a spot on the final if she beat camila or cara or tori so she simply lost unlike cara who because of a twist was singled out  sent into redemption  and by someone she's been in an alliance with .

Anyone can be upset by any decision and if you want to use that against people in future challenges I have no issue with it but to carry it outside the game is ridiculous.  Play the game.  Get revenge in the game.  Taking it outside is unneeded IMOYou can say the negative aspect of the twist hurt Cara more.  That's fine but the twists both helped and hurt both Cara and Kailah.  The fact neither lost an elimination and one was in redemption while the other didn't run the final proves that.

cara did not benefit from the twist though how can you say that , the twist was to send someone to redemption without elimination so cara did not benefit she had to win redemption to comeback in the game 

For the 900th time...REDEMPTION WAS A TWSIT.  You can also say she benefitted from Bloodbath at the end instead of the possibility of seeing two more eliminations.  There were a ridiculous number of twists this season.  Some helped Cara...one hurt her a lot.

kvm1977 why do you argue/talk with Camila and Cara fans, you can't get anything from that because they refuse others opinion.

gamer73 wrote:

TrueTea wrote:Camilla also said a lot of racist shit to and about leroy

True

inb4 Kooki flies in with its cape on.

GUCCI NOOOOOO

So Leroy is now a taken man and Camila had an argument with him? That means she's ******* him next season.

i don't care if camila had a fling with tony, he is the one in a relationship not her!

but if she really said someting rascist to leroy...she must never asked to return again!

But maybe it's culteral thing ... camila is from brazil and maybe she unintentionionely said something hurtful.

i remember the black face incident with emily and ty...it was camila idea and she didn't know why everyone was mad about

kooki wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

kooki wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
kooki wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
damon wrote:
kooki wrote:
Gucci Mane wrote:Kooki I swear you twist the narrative to fit your own bias.

how did I twist it!!

Because you didn't agree with the mass. You literally said what was true. People were saying Cara benefited from the twist when in reality she didn't. Kailah actually did and it just didn't pan out for her.

Cara actually beneifted from one twist and was hurt by another.  Same story with Kailah.  Can we all deal with reality?Cara was hurt by the auto-elimination but helped by redemption.  Kailah the opposite and Kailah was hurt by the final twist. To simply say Kailah beneifted is a sign that people either are still  clueless or just stupid.I really don't like any of the girls on this cast (other than V who had no chance to win) but these comments are getting worse by the hour around here 

what I'm saying is that people on here have been complaining so much about how the twists ruined kailah's game and helped cara .while in fact kailah wasn't hurt by a twist cara was . that twist at the end was applied to everyone unlike cara getting sent to redemption without losing . kailah simply Lost and the other girls beat her in that final challenge, she was not singled out with that twist ,the other girls were just better than her and she got eliminated 

Again--this is looking at things through only one-side and that's a reason most people don't like you.  You twist words to create scenarios that support your stance.  One can't say that a bloodbath at the end isn't a twist that didn't hurt Kailah.  It clearly did. Personally, I'm glad Cara & Camila made the final because I only care about gameplay, competition and game related drama.  But when some of you are making comments about Kailah beause you're upset she took a shot at Cara (like a good gameplayer that isn't afraid would) is pure stupidity.

She isn't twisting anymore. PinkRose literally said that "if Cara wins this season she will be the most undeserving winner in the history of the show" because she benefittef from the twist and lost and elimination. None of that is true, but somehow kooki is twisting her words when she points it out. When Kailah sent her into redemption she already knew that redemption existed, therefore Cara competing in it and coming back wasn't a twist anymore. It's not like Kailah thought she was sending her home directly.You guys are disgusting with how you attacking kooki constantly when she is being nothing but respectful to everyone and just pointing out her opinions. You may not egree with her but there is absolutely no reason to be so mean and rude just because she doesn't follow the popular discourse here. I guess you all feel strong in the group. 

Ummm--I disagree with literally everyone here at times.  EVERYONE.  Some of the people I disagree with most often are the ones I like the most.  I can't help you if you don't see when someone is twisting things.  Anyone upset that Kailah took a shot at Cara is simply being emotional.  It was a good game move regardless of the results.  Just like if Sarah lost the final on Exes 2 she still would have made the right game move in sending in Bananas.  There were countless twists this sseason--some that benefitted Kailah & Cara--some that hurt Kailah & Cara.  I have no porblem with anyone rooting for anyone.  I have a problem when they are fixated on a person and alter reality to make them appear like the victim. 

I am not saying that her putting up cara is not a great move but then cara has the right to still be upset if they were working together and helped her get far to then be betrayed by her and we don't know the extent of it ,once we watch the show we'll know why cara and camila are still upset . and about the twist hurting kailah , yeah sure she was a little hurt with that bloodbath but not to same extent cara was when she was sent off to redemption , kailah could of secured a spot on the final if she beat camila or cara or tori so she simply lost unlike cara who because of a twist was singled out  sent into redemption  and by someone she's been in an alliance with .

Anyone can be upset by any decision and if you want to use that against people in future challenges I have no issue with it but to carry it outside the game is ridiculous.  Play the game.  Get revenge in the game.  Taking it outside is unneeded IMOYou can say the negative aspect of the twist hurt Cara more.  That's fine but the twists both helped and hurt both Cara and Kailah.  The fact neither lost an elimination and one was in redemption while the other didn't run the final proves that.

cara did not benefit from the twist though how can you say that , the twist was to send someone to redemption without elimination so cara did not benefit she had to win redemption to comeback in the game 

For the 900th time...REDEMPTION WAS A TWSIT.  You can also say she benefitted from Bloodbath at the end instead of the possibility of seeing two more eliminations.  There were a ridiculous number of twists this season.  Some helped Cara...one hurt her a lot.

redemption was something everyone knew about at that point including kailah , the twist that hurt cara was getting sent to REDEMPTION without elimination so redemption was not the twist that hepled cara , redemption was part of the twist that hurt her , the twist was getting sent to REDEMPTION

If she said anything racist or brought up race in an arguement...How many "cultural" passes are we gonna give her? 

If she said anything racist or brought up race in an arguemeny... How many "cultural" passes are we give her? 

None.

Wait wait wait Camilla being racist now? BYE

YASSSS KOOKI! SLAY HIM. What twist exactly did Cara benefit from? He keeps saying some dumb shit like " Cara and kailah both had benefits from the twist this season?" ***** where, just cause Cara won redemption (which is somewhere you go when you're eliminated... which Cara wasn't) doesn't mean she benefit from the twist? But I guess my logic is wrong cause I'm a Cara Stan lol. Point is she never had a benefit. Bye 

i don't care if camila had a fling with tony, he is the one in a relationship not her!but if she really said someting rascist to leroy...she must never asked to return again!But maybe it's culteral thing ... camila is from brazil and maybe she unintentionionely said something hurtful.i remember the black face incident with emily and ty...it was camila idea and she didn't know why everyone was mad about

That would be true if Camila was new to america, which she isn't. She knows the difference. Although i'm sure if they show what she said/did, she'll use that as an excuse.

YASSSS KOOKI! SLAY HIM. What twist exactly did Cara benefit from? He keeps saying some dumb shit like " Cara and kailah both had benefits from the twist this season?" ***** where, just cause Cara won redemption (which is somewhere you go when you're eliminated... which Cara wasn't) doesn't mean she benefit from the twist? But I guess my logic is wrong cause I'm a Cara Stan lol. Point is she never had a benefit. Bye 

just cuz you don't hate cara and camila ,your opinion becomes invalid on here .

NonCasual wrote:

Y***SS KOOKI! SLAY HIM. What twist exactly did Cara benefit from? He keeps saying some dumb shit like " Cara and kailah both had benefits from the twist this season?" ***** where, just cause Cara won redemption (which is somewhere you go when you're eliminated... which Cara wasn't) doesn't mean she benefit from the twist? But I guess my logic is wrong cause I'm a Cara Stan lol. Point is she never had a benefit. Bye 

just cuz you don't hate cara and camila ,your opinion becomes invalid on here .

Didnt I tell your small minded *** that there's people here who prove your theory incorrect? 

I knew NonCasual was familiar #SIP

lol.

kvm1977 wrote:
 

kooki wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
kooki wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
kooki wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
damon wrote:
kooki wrote:
Gucci Mane wrote:Kooki I swear you twist the narrative to fit your own bias.

how did I twist it!!

Because you didn't agree with the mass. You literally said what was true. People were saying Cara benefited from the twist when in reality she didn't. Kailah actually did and it just didn't pan out for her.

Cara actually beneifted from one twist and was hurt by another.  Same story with Kailah.  Can we all deal with reality?Cara was hurt by the auto-elimination but helped by redemption.  Kailah the opposite and Kailah was hurt by the final twist. To simply say Kailah beneifted is a sign that people either are still  clueless or just stupid.I really don't like any of the girls on this cast (other than V who had no chance to win) but these comments are getting worse by the hour around here 

what I'm saying is that people on here have been complaining so much about how the twists ruined kailah's game and helped cara .while in fact kailah wasn't hurt by a twist cara was . that twist at the end was applied to everyone unlike cara getting sent to redemption without losing . kailah simply Lost and the other girls beat her in that final challenge, she was not singled out with that twist ,the other girls were just better than her and she got eliminated 

Again--this is looking at things through only one-side and that's a reason most people don't like you.  You twist words to create scenarios that support your stance.  One can't say that a bloodbath at the end isn't a twist that didn't hurt Kailah.  It clearly did. Personally, I'm glad Cara & Camila made the final because I only care about gameplay, competition and game related drama.  But when some of you are making comments about Kailah beause you're upset she took a shot at Cara (like a good gameplayer that isn't afraid would) is pure stupidity.

She isn't twisting anymore. PinkRose literally said that "if Cara wins this season she will be the most undeserving winner in the history of the show" because she benefittef from the twist and lost and elimination. None of that is true, but somehow kooki is twisting her words when she points it out. When Kailah sent her into redemption she already knew that redemption existed, therefore Cara competing in it and coming back wasn't a twist anymore. It's not like Kailah thought she was sending her home directly.You guys are disgusting with how you attacking kooki constantly when she is being nothing but respectful to everyone and just pointing out her opinions. You may not egree with her but there is absolutely no reason to be so mean and rude just because she doesn't follow the popular discourse here. I guess you all feel strong in the group. 

Ummm--I disagree with literally everyone here at times.  EVERYONE.  Some of the people I disagree with most often are the ones I like the most.  I can't help you if you don't see when someone is twisting things.  Anyone upset that Kailah took a shot at Cara is simply being emotional.  It was a good game move regardless of the results.  Just like if Sarah lost the final on Exes 2 she still would have made the right game move in sending in Bananas.  There were countless twists this sseason--some that benefitted Kailah & Cara--some that hurt Kailah & Cara.  I have no porblem with anyone rooting for anyone.  I have a problem when they are fixated on a person and alter reality to make them appear like the victim. 

I am not saying that her putting up cara is not a great move but then cara has the right to still be upset if they were working together and helped her get far to then be betrayed by her and we don't know the extent of it ,once we watch the show we'll know why cara and camila are still upset . and about the twist hurting kailah , yeah sure she was a little hurt with that bloodbath but not to same extent cara was when she was sent off to redemption , kailah could of secured a spot on the final if she beat camila or cara or tori so she simply lost unlike cara who because of a twist was singled out  sent into redemption  and by someone she's been in an alliance with .

Anyone can be upset by any decision and if you want to use that against people in future challenges I have no issue with it but to carry it outside the game is ridiculous.  Play the game.  Get revenge in the game.  Taking it outside is unneeded IMOYou can say the negative aspect of the twist hurt Cara more.  That's fine but the twists both helped and hurt both Cara and Kailah.  The fact neither lost an elimination and one was in redemption while the other didn't run the final proves that.

cara did not benefit from the twist though how can you say that , the twist was to send someone to redemption without elimination so cara did not benefit she had to win redemption to comeback in the game 

For the 900th time...REDEMPTION WAS A TWSIT.  You can also say she benefitted from Bloodbath at the end instead of the possibility of seeing two more eliminations.  There were a ridiculous number of twists this season.  Some helped Cara...one hurt her a lot.

redemption was something everyone knew about at that point including kailah , the twist that hurt cara was getting sent to REDEMPTION without elimination so redemption was not the twist that hepled cara , redemption was part of the twist that hurt her , the twist was getting sent to REDEMPTION

You're dead wrong.  Redempton and Kailah's ability to auto-evict are separate twists.   Redemption is the only reason she came back.  They can absolutely just have someone have the power to send someone home...they can do anything they ******* want to do.  This is simple.  I shouldn't have to dumb this down for you.  SEPARATE TWISTS REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU ALTER REALITY TO DEFEND CARA

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