THE TONYA SITUATIONWelp. We all Know what this is. Tonya sued MTV because she was allegedly sexually assaulted during The Ruins by Evan and Kenny. This whole thing caused Kenny/Evan to be banned from the shows and Tonya to move away from the shows completly.Here's my take on it: I think they did it. But the only reason I think so is because of how Evan and Kenny(Backpack too) treated the women on that particular season. They ripped their tops off, tie them to chairs and hang them toward fans, called them names etc. Just shit that was really vile to me. On top of that the cast has said that they go too far sometimes and I think in this instance they went too far. Not much to go by but it makes sense to me. And I get that there are several people whome are castmembers have stated that it didn't happen I'm not inclined to believe them given that some of them keep changing stories(Susie) or are their friends. So in this case it's guilty until proven innocent.If legit proof that they didn't do this ever comes out then I'll think differently but until then I'm gonna think they're guilty of it.
After reading the buzzfeed article, I actuslly believed it went down the way susie explained
THE TONYA SITUATIONWelp. We all Know what this is. Tonya sued MTV because she was allegedly sexually assaulted during The Ruins by Evan and Kenny. This whole thing caused Kenny/Evan to be banned from the shows and Tonya to move away from the shows completly.Here's my take on it: I think they did it. But the only reason I think so is because of how Evan and Kenny(Backpack too) treated the women on that particular season. They ripped their tops off, tie them to chairs and hang them toward fans, called them names etc. Just shit that was really vile to me. On top of that the cast has said that they go too far sometimes and I think in this instance they went too far. Not much to go by but it makes sense to me. And I get that there are several people whome are castmembers have stated that it didn't happen I'm not inclined to believe them given that some of them keep changing stories(Susie) or are their friends. So in this case it's guilty until proven innocent.If legit proof that they didn't do this ever comes out then I'll think differently but until then I'm gonna think they're guilty of it.
After reading the buzzfeed article, I actuslly believed it went down the way susie explained
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I've said it before and I've talked about these people is so many threads including this one but People who aren't RW or RR(With some exceptions) have been the one thing that I've hated about this show for so long(and still do)
When they started adding these people with Fresh Meat it really didn't sit well with me because it messed with the point of the show..seeing various Real Worlders and Road Rulers that we know and love(or hate) come on and compete, interact, fight, and ****, get and update where they are in their lives now, etc. That's what seperated this show from Survivor or Big Brother..It wasn't just random people. We already "knew" these people in a sense. Fresh Meat changed all that and the show lost a lot of what made it special. It also didn't help that none of the Fresh Meat were worth a damn as characters. They all were either useless, boring, or unlikable. They had a huge hand in the downturn of quality this show would have. The Fresh Meat 2 came along and while they didn't do as much damage as the first group did they weren't needed and I felt like they got in the way of the current RW seasons at the time debuting on the show.
Then came that awful ***** Camilla. Till this day I don't get why they cast her on this show. She's little else but a weak *** ***** who act's like a dumb **** when drunk in order to run away from her problems AKA The Camilinator. She is usless and has done nothing to warrent her being on the show. It still grinds me gears that she was picked over Ashley(DC). Pathetic Cow.
Then AYTO....Oh man. These guys are the most worthless additions ever. Out of the 14 additions ONLY 1 maybe 2 have been any good for this show. THAT IS PATHETIC. I mean look at what we got out of that group of filthy mongrels.
Nate-Tatooed *****.
************
Amanda-Weak *** ***** who wrote checks with her mouth that her *** couldn't cash.
Simone-Jasmine 2.0
Christina-Useless
Brandon-*****
Adam-Vanilla
Brittnay-Useless ***hit
JJ-Useless
Briana-Icarly
Cheyenne-Sweet girl but useless.
Only Devin and Nelson are worth anything.
It pains me to see all those actual castmembers RW and RR alike that want to get on this show so bad but get p***ed up because of some dickead/***** from some outside show took a spot they didn't need to. I mean what are any of them aside from Devin and Nelson gonna do? How are they gonna help this show? All of them are either useless/boring/unlikable just like the Fresh Meat. That's not what this show needs. What is Nate Gonna do that Jason(Skeletons) can't? I'm dying to know.
So In short Non-Castmembers have helped **** up this show and they never should've been added.
Bloodlines are cool though.
Oh and one more thing: I don't care if the show is called The Challenge now. It's still the same ******* show isn't it? If The Walking Dead was just called The Dead does that make the show and damn different? No. So to me this show is still RW/RR. Don't care what anyone says.
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NON-CASTMEMBERS.I've said it before and I've talked about these people is so many threads including this one but People who aren't RW or RR(With some exceptions) have been the one thing that I've hated about this show for so long(and still do)When they started adding these people with Fresh Meat it really didn't sit well with me because it messed with the point of the show..seeing various Real Worlders and Road Rulers that we know and love(or hate) come on and compete, interact, fight, and ****, get and update where they are in their lives now, etc. That's what seperated this show from Survivor or Big Brother..It wasn't just random people. We already "knew" these people in a sense. Fresh Meat changed all that and the show lost a lot of what made it special. It also didn't help that none of the Fresh Meat were worth a damn as characters. They all were either useless, boring, or unlikable. They had a huge hand in the downturn of quality this show would have. The Fresh Meat 2 came along and while they didn't do as much damage as the first group did they weren't needed and I felt like they got in the way of the current RW seasons at the time debuting on the show. Then came that awful ***** Camilla. Till this day I don't get why they cast her on this show. She's little else but a weak *** ***** who act's like a dumb **** when drunk in order to run away from her problems AKA The Camilinator. She is usless and has done nothing to warrent her being on the show. It still grinds me gears that she was picked over Ashley(DC). Pathetic Cow. Then AYTO....Oh man. These guys are the most worthless additions ever. Out of the 14 additions ONLY 1 maybe 2 have been any good for this show. THAT IS PATHETIC. I mean look at what we got out of that group of filthy mongrels.Nate-Tatooed *************************** *** ***** who wrote checks with her mouth that her *** couldn't cash.Simone-Jasmine 2.0Christina-UselessBrandon-PussyAdam-VanillaBrittnay-Useless ***hitJJ-UselessBriana-IcarlyCheyenne-Sweet girl but useless.Only Devin and Nelson are worth anything. It pains me to see all those actual castmembers RW and RR alike that want to get on this show so bad but get p***ed up because of some dickead/***** from some outside show took a spot they didn't need to. I mean what are any of them aside from Devin and Nelson gonna do? How are they gonna help this show? All of them are either useless/boring/unlikable just like the Fresh Meat. That's not what this show needs. What is Nate Gonna do that Jason(Skeletons) can't? I'm dying to know.So In short Non-Castmembers have helped **** up this show and they never should've been added.Bloodlines are cool though.Oh and one more thing: I don't care if the show is called The Challenge now. It's still the same ******* show isn't it? If The Walking Dead was just called The Dead does that make the show and damn different? No. So to me this show is still RW/RR. Don't care what anyone says.
Man i missed the non-cast member shtick lmao. So Bloodlines are cool why? They did exactly/are the same thing as the Fresh Meat lol. I only agree with the AYTO part and somehow a bit on the Camila situation (she was fine on Cutthroat but then she turned into drama camera *****).
Camila was one of the best thing to happen to the Challenge. It's people like her that has the Challenge on the air. Instead of hating you should be happy that she's giving your favs a job. #Brazil
THE TONYA SITUATIONWelp. We all Know what this is. Tonya sued MTV because she was allegedly sexually assaulted during The Ruins by Evan and Kenny. This whole thing caused Kenny/Evan to be banned from the shows and Tonya to move away from the shows completly.Here's my take on it: I think they did it. But the only reason I think so is because of how Evan and Kenny(Backpack too) treated the women on that particular season. They ripped their tops off, tie them to chairs and hang them toward fans, called them names etc. Just shit that was really vile to me. On top of that the cast has said that they go too far sometimes and I think in this instance they went too far. Not much to go by but it makes sense to me. And I get that there are several people whome are castmembers have stated that it didn't happen I'm not inclined to believe them given that some of them keep changing stories(Susie) or are their friends. So in this case it's guilty until proven innocent.If legit proof that they didn't do this ever comes out then I'll think differently but until then I'm gonna think they're guilty of it.
The fact that you brought up Bananas when talking about the alleged assault shows that you are bias. He had nothing to do with it. He's name is 100℅ clear.
THE TONYA SITUATIONWelp. We all Know what this is. Tonya sued MTV because she was allegedly sexually assaulted during The Ruins by Evan and Kenny. This whole thing caused Kenny/Evan to be banned from the shows and Tonya to move away from the shows completly.Here's my take on it: I think they did it. But the only reason I think so is because of how Evan and Kenny(Backpack too) treated the women on that particular season. They ripped their tops off, tie them to chairs and hang them toward fans, called them names etc. Just shit that was really vile to me. On top of that the cast has said that they go too far sometimes and I think in this instance they went too far. Not much to go by but it makes sense to me. And I get that there are several people whome are castmembers have stated that it didn't happen I'm not inclined to believe them given that some of them keep changing stories(Susie) or are their friends. So in this case it's guilty until proven innocent.If legit proof that they didn't do this ever comes out then I'll think differently but until then I'm gonna think they're guilty of it.
The fact that you brought up Bananas when talking about the alleged assault shows that you are bias. He had nothing to do with it. He's name is 100℅ clear.
When did I say he had anything to do with it? I only said he took part in the ******* with the women. Not the actual assault of Tonya.
BACKPACK AND LAUREL WINNING FREE AGENTS.Both of Backpack and Laurel suck so bad so it really was disapointing to see those two win. Nany and Johnny(Portland) should've gotten that win. They both deserved it more IMO.
Lmaoooooooo bananas and Laurel deserved that win over anyone, they kicked *** that season
Zach kicked *** during the missions. it was only the final when he flopped.
BACKPACK AND LAUREL WINNING FREE AGENTS.Both of Backpack and Laurel suck so bad so it really was disapointing to see those two win. Nany and Johnny(Portland) should've gotten that win. They both deserved it more IMO.
Lmaoooooooo bananas and Laurel deserved that win over anyone, they kicked *** that season
Zach kicked *** during the missions. it was only the final when he flopped.
I'd rather Johnny(Portland) win over Zach honestly.
I never understood to call those people "non castmembers". This show isn't called "REAL WORLD/ROAD RULES CHALLENGE" lmao. How stupid would that be
That's exactly how the show began in its second season & that how it should have remained . Me, DA & a lot of others will never forget that
Would've, could've, should've. But it's not. (Some) non-castmembers are welcome in my eyes. Laurel, CM, Camila, Diem, Kenny, Evan, Ev etc have done more for the show than some of the worthless RWers and RRers. How can you deny Laurel and CM's elimination record, Laurel dragging Paula, Kenny's finals appearance record, Diem's stamp on Challenges (RIP)? Brb no one wants to see dusty *** Tyrie, Davis, Derek, Emilee etc.
I will agree that bringing AYTO? cast members was a mistake, as you don't really get to know/care about them in such a big cast the same way you care about RWers and RRers. But it looks like production realized that was a mistake after Rivals 3, hence AYTO getting their own spinoff and the drastic decrease in AYTO this season.
Don't get me wrong, I have come to accept FM presence on the show, but most of them are horrid people with ugly, obnoxious personalities (evan, kenny, big easy , ev, laurel, cara maria ...). I'm not counting their physical abilities as enough of a contribution to the show. only Theresa comes close for me to accept into the club.
The thing with FM is that a lot of them were offered/close to being offered spots on the RW or RR, so if they had accepted or gone a little farther in the process, you'd be stuck with them anyway. Saying that the RWers and RRers are much better is just inaccurate, there's plenty of shitty personalities from those too, FM are just like their fellow RW and RRers.
The thing with FM is that a lot of them were offered/close to being offered spots on the RW or RR, so if they had accepted or gone a little farther in the process, you'd be stuck with them anyway. Saying that the RWers and RRers are much better is just inaccurate, there's plenty of shitty personalities from those too, FM are just like their fellow RW and RRers.
So? That doesn't mean they have any buisness on this show. This show is for Real Worlders and Road Rulers. Fresh Meat don't factor into that no matter how far they got into RW casting. Did they get on? No. So they aren't RW or RR therfore have no place on the show. It's not about them being the same or different. It's about what show they're on.
Seminole wrote:I never understood to call those people "non castmembers". This show isn't called "REAL WORLD/ROAD RULES CHALLENGE" lmao. How stupid would that be
That's exactly how the show began in its second season & that how it should have remained . Me, DA & a lot of others will never forget that
Damn Straight.
Mmkay well continue to be bothered by something that won't change. Just gets tiring reading the same stuff about "non-castmembers" anytime I'm on here.
Don't get me wrong, I have come to accept FM presence on the show, but most of them are horrid people with ugly, obnoxious personalities (evan, kenny, big easy , ev, laurel, cara maria ...). I'm not counting their physical abilities as enough of a contribution to the show. only Theresa comes close for me to accept into the club. I will stick with that stance forever .
Agreed. They may have been decent competitors but all of them were terrible televison and that matters more than "athletisicm". I don't care how good of a competitor you are. If I hate watching you then I don't want you on. This isn't sports.
The thing with FM is that a lot of them were offered/close to being offered spots on the RW or RR, so if they had accepted or gone a little farther in the process, you'd be stuck with them anyway. Saying that the RWers and RRers are much better is just inaccurate, there's plenty of shitty personalities from those too, FM are just like their fellow RW and RRers.
So? That doesn't mean they have any buisness on this show. This show is for Real Worlders and Road Rulers. Fresh Meat don't factor into that no matter how far they got into RW casting. Did they get on? No. So they aren't RW or RR therfore have no place on the show. It's not about them being the same or different. It's about what show they're on. Those shitty RW's have more of a right to be on this show than any Non-Castmember ever will. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE ON REAL WORLD! The point of this show was to showcase them and Road Rulers. FM don't factor into that.
Just a very strange thing to be so bothered by; whether or not someone is "worthy" of being on a show. I agree with a lot of what you say on here, but not exactly eye to eye on this one.
I do agree that the original concept of the show was to continue to see RW and RRers that you have seen before and care about. So I get where you're coming from there. But I think certain FM castmembers have built their own stake into the show, and a lot of people care about them and their relationships/lives now even if they weren't showcased on RW/RR.
Seminole wrote:I never understood to call those people "non castmembers". This show isn't called "REAL WORLD/ROAD RULES CHALLENGE" lmao. How stupid would that be
That's exactly how the show began in its second season & that how it should have remained . Me, DA & a lot of others will never forget that
Damn Straight.
Mmkay well continue to be bothered by something that won't change. Just gets tiring reading the same stuff about "non-castmembers" anytime I'm on here.
Well me complaining about Non-Castmembers won't change either so..
deeper wrote:The thing with FM is that a lot of them were offered/close to being offered spots on the RW or RR, so if they had accepted or gone a little farther in the process, you'd be stuck with them anyway. Saying that the RWers and RRers are much better is just inaccurate, there's plenty of shitty personalities from those too, FM are just like their fellow RW and RRers.
So? That doesn't mean they have any buisness on this show. This show is for Real Worlders and Road Rulers. Fresh Meat don't factor into that no matter how far they got into RW casting. Did they get on? No. So they aren't RW or RR therfore have no place on the show. It's not about them being the same or different. It's about what show they're on. Those shitty RW's have more of a right to be on this show than any Non-Castmember ever will. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE ON REAL WORLD! The point of this show was to showcase them and Road Rulers. FM don't factor into that.
Just a very strange thing to be so bothered by; whether or not someone is "worthy" of being on a show. I agree with a lot of what you say on here, but not exactly eye to eye on this one.I do agree that the original concept of the show was to continue to see RW and RRers that you have seen before and care about. So I get where you're coming from there. But I think certain FM castmembers have built their own stake into the show, and a lot of people care about them and their relationships/lives now even if they weren't showcased on RW/RR.
That's only because they kept coming back. Just like the actual castmembers. Had none of them came back after the Fresh Meat season then they'd be irrelevant. Doesn't mean anything.
So do you think you would like Diem, CM, Laurel, etc if they were originally on the RW? Or is your point that all FM have terrible personalities?It seems like you dislike FM because they are FM, not because they actually are horrible television/personalities.
I hate them for both reasons. They're awful personalities and they were just randomly brought in. Why am I supposed to care about some random ******** that I've never seen before? And also why should I like him given that he is a terrible *******?
So do you think you would like Diem, CM, Laurel, etc if they were originally on the RW? Or is your point that all FM have terrible personalities?It seems like you dislike FM because they are FM, not because they actually are horrible television/personalities.
I hate them for both reasons. They're awful personalities and they were just randomly brought in. Why am I supposed to care about some random ******** that I've never seen before? And also why should I like him given that he is a terrible *******?
Well I mean why does anyone care about cast members on Survivor or the Amazing Race? They don't at first, but then they get to know/like them. If you just dislike them for their personalities fine, but I think you're letting the fact that they were randomly brought in get in the way of liking them.
You have admitted to liking Jamie, so obviously having some people brought in randomly isn't the worst thing. Would much rather have Jamie there than say Sarah, Katelynn, Derek, Chet, Jasmine, JD, etc.
deeper wrote:So do you think you would like Diem, CM, Laurel, etc if they were originally on the RW? Or is your point that all FM have terrible personalities?It seems like you dislike FM because they are FM, not because they actually are horrible television/personalities.
I hate them for both reasons. They're awful personalities and they were just randomly brought in. Why am I supposed to care about some random ******** that I've never seen before? And also why should I like him given that he is a terrible *******?
Well I mean why does anyone care about cast members on Survivor or the Amazing Race? They don't at first, but then they get to know/like them. If you just dislike them for their personalities fine, but I think you're letting the fact that they were randomly brought in get in the way of liking them.You have admitted to liking Jamie, so obviously having some people brought in randomly isn't the worst thing. Would much rather have Jamie there than say Amanda lmao
He also wants anthony from bloodlines to return desipite the fact that he was invisible and a bananas minion.
After reading the buzzfeed article, I actuslly believed it went down the way susie explained
Eh. I don't trust what Susie says..
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NON-CASTMEMBERS.
I've said it before and I've talked about these people is so many threads including this one but People who aren't RW or RR(With some exceptions) have been the one thing that I've hated about this show for so long(and still do)
When they started adding these people with Fresh Meat it really didn't sit well with me because it messed with the point of the show..seeing various Real Worlders and Road Rulers that we know and love(or hate) come on and compete, interact, fight, and ****, get and update where they are in their lives now, etc. That's what seperated this show from Survivor or Big Brother..It wasn't just random people. We already "knew" these people in a sense. Fresh Meat changed all that and the show lost a lot of what made it special. It also didn't help that none of the Fresh Meat were worth a damn as characters. They all were either useless, boring, or unlikable. They had a huge hand in the downturn of quality this show would have. The Fresh Meat 2 came along and while they didn't do as much damage as the first group did they weren't needed and I felt like they got in the way of the current RW seasons at the time debuting on the show.
Then came that awful ***** Camilla. Till this day I don't get why they cast her on this show. She's little else but a weak *** ***** who act's like a dumb **** when drunk in order to run away from her problems AKA The Camilinator. She is usless and has done nothing to warrent her being on the show. It still grinds me gears that she was picked over Ashley(DC). Pathetic Cow.
Then AYTO....Oh man. These guys are the most worthless additions ever. Out of the 14 additions ONLY 1 maybe 2 have been any good for this show. THAT IS PATHETIC. I mean look at what we got out of that group of filthy mongrels.
Nate-Tatooed *****.
************
Amanda-Weak *** ***** who wrote checks with her mouth that her *** couldn't cash.
Simone-Jasmine 2.0
Christina-Useless
Brandon-*****
Adam-Vanilla
Brittnay-Useless ***hit
JJ-Useless
Briana-Icarly
Cheyenne-Sweet girl but useless.
Only Devin and Nelson are worth anything.
It pains me to see all those actual castmembers RW and RR alike that want to get on this show so bad but get p***ed up because of some dickead/***** from some outside show took a spot they didn't need to. I mean what are any of them aside from Devin and Nelson gonna do? How are they gonna help this show? All of them are either useless/boring/unlikable just like the Fresh Meat. That's not what this show needs. What is Nate Gonna do that Jason(Skeletons) can't? I'm dying to know.
So In short Non-Castmembers have helped **** up this show and they never should've been added.
Bloodlines are cool though.
Oh and one more thing: I don't care if the show is called The Challenge now. It's still the same ******* show isn't it? If The Walking Dead was just called The Dead does that make the show and damn different? No. So to me this show is still RW/RR. Don't care what anyone says.
Man i missed the non-cast member shtick lmao. So Bloodlines are cool why? They did exactly/are the same thing as the Fresh Meat lol. I only agree with the AYTO part and somehow a bit on the Camila situation (she was fine on Cutthroat but then she turned into drama camera *****).
Camila was one of the best thing to happen to the Challenge. It's people like her that has the Challenge on the air. Instead of hating you should be happy that she's giving your favs a job. #Brazil
The fact that you brought up Bananas when talking about the alleged assault shows that you are bias. He had nothing to do with it. He's name is 100℅ clear.
You're so f*n annoying. People are just voicing their opinions just like DA did
You're so f*n annoying. People are just voicing their opinions just like DA did
When did I say he had anything to do with it? I only said he took part in the ******* with the women. Not the actual assault of Tonya.
I never understood to call those people "non castmembers". This show isn't called "REAL WORLD/ROAD RULES CHALLENGE" lmao. How stupid would that be
Zach kicked *** during the missions. it was only the final when he flopped.
I'd rather Johnny(Portland) win over Zach honestly.
That's exactly how the show began in its second season & that how it should have remained . Me, DA & a lot of others will never forget that
Would've, could've, should've. But it's not. (Some) non-castmembers are welcome in my eyes. Laurel, CM, Camila, Diem, Kenny, Evan, Ev etc have done more for the show than some of the worthless RWers and RRers. How can you deny Laurel and CM's elimination record, Laurel dragging Paula, Kenny's finals appearance record, Diem's stamp on Challenges (RIP)? Brb no one wants to see dusty *** Tyrie, Davis, Derek, Emilee etc.
I will agree that bringing AYTO? cast members was a mistake, as you don't really get to know/care about them in such a big cast the same way you care about RWers and RRers. But it looks like production realized that was a mistake after Rivals 3, hence AYTO getting their own spinoff and the drastic decrease in AYTO this season.
Don't get me wrong, I have come to accept FM presence on the show, but most of them are horrid people with ugly, obnoxious personalities (evan, kenny, big easy , ev, laurel, cara maria ...). I'm not counting their physical abilities as enough of a contribution to the show. only Theresa comes close for me to accept into the club.
I will stick with that stance forever .
Most people from FM applied for RW but didn't make the cast.
The thing with FM is that a lot of them were offered/close to being offered spots on the RW or RR, so if they had accepted or gone a little farther in the process, you'd be stuck with them anyway. Saying that the RWers and RRers are much better is just inaccurate, there's plenty of shitty personalities from those too, FM are just like their fellow RW and RRers.
Damn Straight.
So? That doesn't mean they have any buisness on this show. This show is for Real Worlders and Road Rulers. Fresh Meat don't factor into that no matter how far they got into RW casting. Did they get on? No. So they aren't RW or RR therfore have no place on the show. It's not about them being the same or different. It's about what show they're on.
Mmkay well continue to be bothered by something that won't change. Just gets tiring reading the same stuff about "non-castmembers" anytime I'm on here.
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Agreed. They may have been decent competitors but all of them were terrible televison and that matters more than "athletisicm". I don't care how good of a competitor you are. If I hate watching you then I don't want you on. This isn't sports.
Just a very strange thing to be so bothered by; whether or not someone is "worthy" of being on a show. I agree with a lot of what you say on here, but not exactly eye to eye on this one.
I do agree that the original concept of the show was to continue to see RW and RRers that you have seen before and care about. So I get where you're coming from there. But I think certain FM castmembers have built their own stake into the show, and a lot of people care about them and their relationships/lives now even if they weren't showcased on RW/RR.
Well me complaining about Non-Castmembers won't change either so..
So do you think you would like Diem, CM, Laurel, etc if they were originally on the RW? Or is your point that all FM have terrible personalities?
It seems like you dislike FM because they are FM, not because they actually are horrible television/personalities.
That's only because they kept coming back. Just like the actual castmembers. Had none of them came back after the Fresh Meat season then they'd be irrelevant. Doesn't mean anything.
I hate them for both reasons. They're awful personalities and they were just randomly brought in. Why am I supposed to care about some random ******** that I've never seen before? And also why should I like him given that he is a terrible *******?
I think Laurel applied for RW Brooklyn, so you tell me you wouldn't have her over Devyn or Katelynn?
Well I mean why does anyone care about cast members on Survivor or the Amazing Race? They don't at first, but then they get to know/like them. If you just dislike them for their personalities fine, but I think you're letting the fact that they were randomly brought in get in the way of liking them.
You have admitted to liking Jamie, so obviously having some people brought in randomly isn't the worst thing. Would much rather have Jamie there than say Sarah, Katelynn, Derek, Chet, Jasmine, JD, etc.
Imagine having this much hatred in your heart for someone deciding to go on a reality tv show like 10 years ago.
He also wants anthony from bloodlines to return desipite the fact that he was invisible and a bananas minion.
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