Welp. We all Know what this is. Tonya sued MTV because she was allegedly sexually assaulted during The Ruins by Evan and Kenny. This whole thing caused Kenny/Evan to be banned from the shows and Tonya to move away from the shows completly.
Here's my take on it: I think they did it. But the only reason I think so is because of how Evan and Kenny(Backpack too) treated the women on that particular season. They ripped their tops off, tie them to chairs and hang them toward fans, called them names etc. Just shit that was really vile to me. On top of that the cast has said that they go too far sometimes and I think in this instance they went too far. Not much to go by but it makes sense to me. And I get that there are several people whome are castmembers have stated that it didn't happen I'm not inclined to believe them given that some of them keep changing stories(Susie) or are their friends. So in this case it's guilty until proven innocent.
If legit proof that they didn't do this ever comes out then I'll think differently but until then I'm gonna think they're guilty of it.
THE TONYA SITUATIONWelp. We all Know what this is. Tonya sued MTV because she was allegedly sexually assaulted during The Ruins by Evan and Kenny. This whole thing caused Kenny/Evan to be banned from the shows and Tonya to move away from the shows completly.Here's my take on it: I think they did it. But the only reason I think so is because of how Evan and Kenny(Backpack too) treated the women on that particular season. They ripped their tops off, tie them to chairs and hang them toward fans, called them names etc. Just shit that was really vile to me. On top of that the cast has said that they go too far sometimes and I think in this instance they went too far. Not much to go by but it makes sense to me. And I get that there are several people whome are castmembers have stated that it didn't happen I'm not inclined to believe them given that some of them keep changing stories(Susie) or are their friends. So in this case it's guilty until proven innocent.If legit proof that they didn't do this ever comes out then I'll think differently but until then I'm gonna think they're guilty of it.
I didn't want to get triggered but wtf? This makes no sense and your opinion is biased af. The proof work both ways son "if legit proof that they didn't do this.." there is no legit proof THAT THEY DID INFACT DO IT so that goes but ways, the situation was ****** up and they definately did something but i doubt that they raped her. Either way there is no point in judging because neither did you or I were there at the time and only the people involved know the truth. Like some forum members have said your opinions and comments sometimes make you really delusional and biased towards certain situations but then again its your opinion and i will respect it.
THE TONYA SITUATIONWelp. We all Know what this is. Tonya sued MTV because she was allegedly sexually assaulted during The Ruins by Evan and Kenny. This whole thing caused Kenny/Evan to be banned from the shows and Tonya to move away from the shows completly.Here's my take on it: I think they did it. But the only reason I think so is because of how Evan and Kenny(Backpack too) treated the women on that particular season. They ripped their tops off, tie them to chairs and hang them toward fans, called them names etc. Just shit that was really vile to me. On top of that the cast has said that they go too far sometimes and I think in this instance they went too far. Not much to go by but it makes sense to me. And I get that there are several people whome are castmembers have stated that it didn't happen I'm not inclined to believe them given that some of them keep changing stories(Susie) or are their friends. So in this case it's guilty until proven innocent.If legit proof that they didn't do this ever comes out then I'll think differently but until then I'm gonna think they're guilty of it.
I didn't want to get triggered but wtf? This makes no sense and your opinion is biased af. The proof work both ways son "if legit proof that they didn't do this.." there is no legit proof THAT THEY DID INFACT DO IT so that goes but ways, the situation was ****** up and they definately did something but i doubt that they raped her. Either way there is no point in judging because neither did you or I were there at the time and only the people involved know the truth. Like some forum members have said your opinions and comments sometimes make you really delusional and biased towards certain situations but then again its your opinion and i will respect it.
Right. I never said there was legit proof that they did do it. I'm going by things I've seen of them and made my mind up on that. And I didn't say they raped her. I think something did happen but not rape. I get that I wasn't there but at the same time that doesn't mean that I can't have an opinon about it. And like I said before..some people that were there don't know the truth either so that doens't hold much stock to me.
When you guys see any posts from DA about Tonya/Kenny/Even thing, ignore. This guys hates them and he will say they are guilty even tho no one doesn't know court decision. On the other hand one of his favorit male cast members is Dustin who is gay ******** and convicted sexual predator (ssexually assaulted someone). Guy has double standards.
When you guys see any posts from DA about Tonya/Kenny/Even thing, ignore. This guys hates them and he will say they are guilty even tho no one doesn't know court decision. On the other hand one of his favorit male cast members is Dustin who is gay ******** and convicted sexual predator (ssexually assaulted someone). Guy has double standards.
What's wrong with that? And I don't have double standards as I don't condone sexual assault by anyone. What Dustin did was ****** up and he should be punshied for that. But it's not enough for me to dislike him because he seems decent otherwise.
He is insecure in his sexuality, he showed it on his RW season and on the challenge. He can't say yes I was still insecure in my sexuality at that time but insted he tries to fight with every person who "insulted" him by mentioning his video just to show how strong and heterosexual he is.
He is insecure in his sexuality, he showed it on his RW season and on the challenge. He can't say yes I was still insecure in my sexuality at that time but insted he tries to fight with every person who "insulted" him by mentioning his video just to show how strong and heterosexual he is.
When did he ever do this? And I just think that he did the gay **** just for some money and just couldn't own up to it. Maybe because of the insecurity like you said.
He is insecure in his sexuality, he showed it on his RW season and on the challenge. He can't say yes I was still insecure in my sexuality at that time but insted he tries to fight with every person who "insulted" him by mentioning his video just to show how strong and heterosexual he is.
When did he ever do this? And I just think that he did the gay **** just for some money and just couldn't own up to it. Maybe because of the insecurity like you said.
He tried to beat up Mike on RW season and tried to fight with Frank on Seasons.
CokoMaggot wrote:He is insecure in his sexuality, he showed it on his RW season and on the challenge. He can't say yes I was still insecure in my sexuality at that time but insted he tries to fight with every person who "insulted" him by mentioning his video just to show how strong and heterosexual he is.
When did he ever do this? And I just think that he did the gay **** just for some money and just couldn't own up to it. Maybe because of the insecurity like you said.
He tried to beat up Mike on RW season and tried to fight with Frank on Seasons.
Mike and Frank both were ******** to him. It had nothing to do with the gay **** he did(Although Frank did bring it up it wasn't the root of their fight).
He knew Mike was from conservative catholic family, but instead having normal talk with him as grown person he gets drunk and started the argument which ended up with fight.
I like Dustin, but him refusing to ride on a boat with Leroy and Mike because it’s “gay” makes it pretty evident he is/was insecure of his sexuality.
I agree. That. And some other shit made me think that he wasn't all that keen with his sexuality. I'd like to think that he's come to terms with that now but who knows.
He knew Mike was from conservative catholic family, but instead having normal talk with him as grown person he gets drunk and started the argument which ended up with fight.
Mike would egg him on and be passive agressive with him though. What could Dustin say to him? What was he supposed to say? I mean at one point Mike implied that he shouldn't speak in front of children to do him being in gay ****** it was something to that effect Can't remember that season that much). I would be pissed off too if I were him.
He knew Mike was from conservative catholic family, but instead having normal talk with him as grown person he gets drunk and started the argument which ended up with fight.
Mike would egg him on and be passive agressive with him though. What could Dustin say to him? What was he supposed to say? I mean at one point Mike implied that he shouldn't speak in front of children to do him being in gay ****** it was something to that effect Can't remember that season that much). I would be pissed off too if I were him.
As I said, Mike was raised in really conservative family and his point of view is different from most of the people, so you can't expect him being friendly with Dustin after whole thing going around ****. On the other hand Dustin being insecure and scared for being judged, he didn't know how to confront Mike so he ended up doing stupid thing, got drunk and tried to beat him.
Looking back at all RW seasons, I think production only failed with picking Mike as person with strong conservative background. They should have stuck with people like Julie or Lacey, even Zach (who is *********) broke down his conservative shiled and made connection with Sam and Frank.
CokoMaggot wrote:He knew Mike was from conservative catholic family, but instead having normal talk with him as grown person he gets drunk and started the argument which ended up with fight.
Mike would egg him on and be p***ive agressive with him though. What could Dustin say to him? What was he supposed to say? I mean at one point Mike implied that he shouldn't speak in front of children to do him being in gay ****** it was something to that effect Can't remember that season that much). I would be ****ed off too if I were him.
As I said, Mike was raised in really conservative family and his point of view is different from most of the people, so you can't expect him being friendly with Dustin after whole thing going around ****. On the other hand Dustin being insecure and scared for being judged, he didn't know how to confront Mike so he ended up doing stupid thing, got drunk and tried to beat him.Looking back at all RW seasons, I think production only failed with picking Mike as person with strong conservative background. They should have stuck with people like Julie or Lacey, even Zach (who is *********) broke down his conservative shiled and made connection with Sam and Frank.
That's bullshit and you're making excuses for him. He didn't have to befriend Dustin but him doing ****** possibly being gay doesn't justify him being an *** to Dustin and implying that he shouldn't be around children. There's this thing called being civil with someone despite not liking them or/and the things that they do and that's what Mike should've done. Not bait and be p***ive agressive towards him and **** him off. That's makes you look childish. Mike should've been the adult and either left it alone or talk to Dustin himself about it. You're pinning Mike's shit on Dustin and that's garbage.
No one's going to change DA mind.. about anything ever.. no matter how good your argument is. Just save yourselves the headache and let him do his thing in this thread lol.
No one's going to change DA mind.. about anything ever.. no matter how good your argument is. Just save yourselves the headache and let him do his thing in this thread lol.
If the argument was good then I would've changed my viewpoint...
you are forgiven. now eat up that orange crayon. this one is on the house.
You know I was kidding about that right?
Lol you should have kept on with the trolling.
I was going to just to try to get this thread to 50 pages but I didn't think it would've went that long so I just cut it.
LOL
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THE TONYA SITUATION
Welp. We all Know what this is. Tonya sued MTV because she was allegedly sexually assaulted during The Ruins by Evan and Kenny. This whole thing caused Kenny/Evan to be banned from the shows and Tonya to move away from the shows completly.
Here's my take on it: I think they did it. But the only reason I think so is because of how Evan and Kenny(Backpack too) treated the women on that particular season. They ripped their tops off, tie them to chairs and hang them toward fans, called them names etc. Just shit that was really vile to me. On top of that the cast has said that they go too far sometimes and I think in this instance they went too far. Not much to go by but it makes sense to me. And I get that there are several people whome are castmembers have stated that it didn't happen I'm not inclined to believe them given that some of them keep changing stories(Susie) or are their friends. So in this case it's guilty until proven innocent.
If legit proof that they didn't do this ever comes out then I'll think differently but until then I'm gonna think they're guilty of it.
I didn't want to get triggered but wtf? This makes no sense and your opinion is biased af. The proof work both ways son "if legit proof that they didn't do this.." there is no legit proof THAT THEY DID INFACT DO IT so that goes but ways, the situation was ****** up and they definately did something but i doubt that they raped her. Either way there is no point in judging because neither did you or I were there at the time and only the people involved know the truth. Like some forum members have said your opinions and comments sometimes make you really delusional and biased towards certain situations but then again its your opinion and i will respect it.
Right. I never said there was legit proof that they did do it. I'm going by things I've seen of them and made my mind up on that. And I didn't say they raped her. I think something did happen but not rape. I get that I wasn't there but at the same time that doesn't mean that I can't have an opinon about it. And like I said before..some people that were there don't know the truth either so that doens't hold much stock to me.
When you guys see any posts from DA about Tonya/Kenny/Even thing, ignore. This guys hates them and he will say they are guilty even tho no one doesn't know court decision. On the other hand one of his favorit male cast members is Dustin who is gay ******** and convicted sexual predator (ssexually assaulted someone). Guy has double standards.
What's wrong with that? And I don't have double standards as I don't condone sexual assault by anyone. What Dustin did was ****** up and he should be punshied for that. But it's not enough for me to dislike him because he seems decent otherwise.
He is insecure in his sexuality, he showed it on his RW season and on the challenge. He can't say yes I was still insecure in my sexuality at that time but insted he tries to fight with every person who "insulted" him by mentioning his video just to show how strong and heterosexual he is.
Yeah DA's hypocrisy on this is baffling.
y'all sound mad zzzzzzz *****
When did he ever do this? And I just think that he did the gay **** just for some money and just couldn't own up to it. Maybe because of the insecurity like you said.
Honestly I should make an entry on that whole gay **** thing because I do think that was rediclous.
He tried to beat up Mike on RW season and tried to fight with Frank on Seasons.
Mike and Frank both were ******** to him. It had nothing to do with the gay **** he did(Although Frank did bring it up it wasn't the root of their fight).
I like Dustin, but him refusing to ride on a boat with Leroy and Mike because it’s “gay” makes it pretty evident he is/was insecure of his sexuality.
He knew Mike was from conservative catholic family, but instead having normal talk with him as grown person he gets drunk and started the argument which ended up with fight.
I agree. That. And some other shit made me think that he wasn't all that keen with his sexuality. I'd like to think that he's come to terms with that now but who knows.
Mike would egg him on and be passive agressive with him though. What could Dustin say to him? What was he supposed to say? I mean at one point Mike implied that he shouldn't speak in front of children to do him being in gay ****** it was something to that effect Can't remember that season that much). I would be pissed off too if I were him.
They kinda do though lol.
As I said, Mike was raised in really conservative family and his point of view is different from most of the people, so you can't expect him being friendly with Dustin after whole thing going around ****. On the other hand Dustin being insecure and scared for being judged, he didn't know how to confront Mike so he ended up doing stupid thing, got drunk and tried to beat him.
Looking back at all RW seasons, I think production only failed with picking Mike as person with strong conservative background. They should have stuck with people like Julie or Lacey, even Zach (who is *********) broke down his conservative shiled and made connection with Sam and Frank.
That's bullshit and you're making excuses for him. He didn't have to befriend Dustin but him doing ****** possibly being gay doesn't justify him being an *** to Dustin and implying that he shouldn't be around children. There's this thing called being civil with someone despite not liking them or/and the things that they do and that's what Mike should've done. Not bait and be p***ive agressive towards him and **** him off. That's makes you look childish. Mike should've been the adult and either left it alone or talk to Dustin himself about it. You're pinning Mike's shit on Dustin and that's garbage.
As garbage as guilty til innocent.
I don't think so..Well not in Evan/Kenny's instance at least.
No one's going to change DA mind.. about anything ever.. no matter how good your argument is. Just save yourselves the headache and let him do his thing in this thread lol.
If the argument was good then I would've changed my viewpoint...
But you aren't though. And we can leave it at that.
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