Bupersoy wrote:I enjoy watching the challenge just as much now as i did in the past.
Curious..What was your first challenge?
Live or non live? The first one i ever watched live was free agents but i stumbled upon the duel 1 somehow and watched various post fresh meat seasons from there. I then went and watched some of the older seasons.
Free Agents? Oh so you just became a fan basically.What did you think of the older shows?
Ive enjoyed every season for what they were tbh. Like none were bad imo. I feel like every person is there for a reason, some are meant to be nessecwry background characters.
Bupersoy wrote:I enjoy watching the challenge just as much now as i did in the past.
Curious..What was your first challenge?
Live or non live? The first one i ever watched live was free agents but i stumbled upon the duel 1 somehow and watched various post fresh meat seasons from there. I then went and watched some of the older seasons.
Free Agents? Oh so you just became a fan basically.What did you think of the older shows?
Ive enjoyed every season for what they were tbh. Like none were bad imo. I feel like every person is there for a reason, some are meant to be nessecwry background characters.
I hate ayto losers almost as much as i hate jemmye.
A huge reason i hate ayto is because of the corny *** concept, oh you guys are perfect for each other become MTV thinks so. How many besides that one couple with a baby are actually still together?
I understand the show isn't Real World/Road Rules anymore and I wasn't fan of Fresh Meat and Camila, but understood their inclusion. (Even though Camila's was stupid, I mean Spring Break Challenge?) I dislike seeing these random AYTO people being dumped on The Challenge because I have no idea who they are. Their show has nothing to do with The Challenge and I really don't care to watch it just so "I can get to get to know them." If BMP/MTV were smart they should've created Fresh Meat 3 and pick eight guys and girls from AYTO and have the "AYTO Fresh Meat" vs. the "Real World Alumni." This way The Challenge would finally have a team challenge and the viewers would just get to know these sixteen new challengers instead of having new random people every single season. Unfortunately, BMP has lost the plot and ended up making the show worse. Instead of gaining new viewers, they ****** away the older ones like myself. I've been addicted to the show for fourteen years, but since Battle of the Exes 2 the love I had for The Challenge slowly faded. Once I saw the cast for Rivals 3, it put the final nail in the coffin. I would encourage people who ***** about the show, but still watch, just to stop. You know you hate the direction of where the show is going and you know it will never be the same again so yourself the misery and stop watching.
I hate ayto losers almost as much as i hate jemmye. A huge reason i hate ayto is because of the corny *** concept, oh you guys are perfect for each other become MTV thinks so. How many besides that one couple with a baby are actually still together?
Yeah but that's the point, that means it's always not garanteed your perfect match, that'a why they're there to pursue other people even if they can't find their perfect match. Did you expect every couple that was a perfect match to actually stay together.
I was immediately hooked when I saw the promos for Season 1.
I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time.
Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
I understand the show isn't Real World/Road Rules anymore and I wasn't fan of Fresh Meat and Camila, but understood their inclusion. (Even though Camila's was stupid, I mean Spring Break Challenge?) I dislike seeing these random AYTO people being dumped on The Challenge because I have no idea who they are. Their show has nothing to do with The Challenge and I really don't care to watch it just so "I can get to get to know them." If BMP/MTV were smart they should've created Fresh Meat 3 and pick eight guys and girls from AYTO and have the "AYTO Fresh Meat" vs. the "Real World Alumni." This way The Challenge would finally have a team challenge and the viewers would just get to know these sixteen new challengers instead of having new random people every single season. Unfortunately, BMP has lost the plot and ended up making the show worse. Instead of gaining new viewers, they ****** away the older ones like myself. I've been addicted to the show for fourteen years, but since Battle of the Exes 2 the love I had for The Challenge slowly faded. Once I saw the cast for Rivals 3, it put the final nail in the coffin. I would encourage people who ***** about the show, but still watch, just to stop. You know you hate the direction of where the show is going and you know it will never be the same again so yourself the misery and stop watching.
I mean well the same goes for Real World, every real world season you gotta get to know a few more people well, well atleast for the many viewers who don't watch real world. and I get this show stemmed form Real World/Road Rules, but haven't you noticed it isn't Real World/Road Rules Challenge anymore, it's the challenge. And now every single intro they mention, "contestants from MTV Real World & AYTO? are here to compete blah blah blah." I feel your fustration but there's something to them being there.
I hate ayto losers almost as much as i hate jemmye. A huge reason i hate ayto is because of the corny *** concept, oh you guys are perfect for each other become MTV thinks so. How many besides that one couple with a baby are actually still together?
Yeah but that's the point, that means it's always not garanteed your perfect match, that'a why they're there to pursue other people even if they can't find their perfect match. Did you expect every couple that was a perfect match to actually stay together. I was immediately hooked when I saw the promos for Season 1.
my point is how corny it is. The idea of perfect matches in general means nothing if you dont actually like thd person
I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
There's no arguing here. They are legit cast members. That's it.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
You dont see them as cast members but MTV/BMP sees it diffently, but keep being a baby about it.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
MTV/BMP sees it diffently but keep being a baby about it.
I don't give a ****. They aren't real cast members period. They aren't Rw, they aren't RR, they aren't even Fresh Meat. They are nothing and they ain't shit in my eyes.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
You dont see them as cast members but MTV/BMP sees it diffently, but keep being a baby about it.
If having an opinion makes him, or anyone else, a baby, then you're talking about a good majority of the people that watch this show.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
MTV/BMP sees it diffently but keep being a baby about it.
I don't give a ****. They aren't real cast members period. They aren't Rw, they aren't RR, they aren't even Fresh Meat. They are nothing and they ain't shit in my eyes.
You're willing to accept Fresh meat as cast members but not AYTO?
Here's official cast photo for Rivals 3. With people from RW, AYTO and Bloodlines. They are part of the franchise now and your dismissal of them won't change that.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
You dont see them as cast members but MTV/BMP sees it diffently, but keep being a baby about it.
If having an opinion makes him, or anyone else, a baby, then you're talking about a good majority of the people that watch this show.
Having opinion doesn't make him a baby. Ranting about "non-castmembers" despite the amout of evidence to debunk those claims over and over does.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
You dont see them as cast members but MTV/BMP sees it diffently, but keep being a baby about it.
If having an opinion makes him, or anyone else, a baby, then you're talking about a good majority of the people that watch this show.
Having opinion doesn't make him a baby. Being in complete denial and ranting about it over and over does.
He's sticking true to his opinion. And I doubt its denial. They're being cast on the show, so yes, castmembers. I'm pretty sure he knows that.But are they apart of the whole thing? Nah. The Challenge was never meant for them in the first place. Fresh Meat is a completely different thing.Let him rant. Vevmo's a discussion forum. Scroll past it if you can't handle it.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
MTV/BMP sees it diffently but keep being a baby about it.
I don't give a ****. They aren't real cast members period. They aren't Rw, they aren't RR, they aren't even Fresh Meat. They are nothing and they ain't shit in my eyes.
You're willing to accept Fresh meat as cast members but not AYTO?
Here's official cast photo for Rivals 3. With people from RW, AYTO and Bloodlines. They are part of the franchise now and your dismissal of them won't change that.
Yes. Because as much as I hate them and what they did to the show there was a point to the Fresh Meat.. They were intended to be a part of this franchise. Can't say that about AYTO. They're physically apart of the show yes but will never be TRULY apart of this franchise. Period. You can post all the cast pics you want. It won't change that fact.
I really like Christina and I think Devin could be good for the show, he seems like someone who will always stir the pot. I don't like Dario's cocky ***, but he is sure to get into it with some at least once a season. But the rest I really do not care for. As said I don't mind a few of them on there, I just hope it doesn't come to a point where the show would become dominated and the majority is AYTO. At that point I'd probably stop watching.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
MTV/BMP sees it diffently but keep being a baby about it.
I don't give a ****. They aren't real cast members period. They aren't Rw, they aren't RR, they aren't even Fresh Meat. They are nothing and they ain't shit in my eyes.
You're willing to accept Fresh meat as cast members but not AYTO?
Here's official cast photo for Rivals 3. With people from RW, AYTO and Bloodlines. They are part of the franchise now and your dismissal of them won't change that.
Yes. Because as much as I hate them and what they did to the show there was a point to the Fresh Meat.. They were intended to be a part of this franchise. Can't say that about AYTO. They're physically apart of the show yes but will never be TRULY apart of this franchise. Period. You can post all the cast pics you want. It won't change that fact.
The only fact here is they are part of the franchise now. Whether it's last minute add ons or "True members" is really a stubborn way to think about it.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
MTV/BMP sees it diffently but keep being a baby about it.
I don't give a ****. They aren't real cast members period. They aren't Rw, they aren't RR, they aren't even Fresh Meat. They are nothing and they ain't shit in my eyes.
You're willing to accept Fresh meat as cast members but not AYTO?
Here's official cast photo for Rivals 3. With people from RW, AYTO and Bloodlines. They are part of the franchise now and your dismissal of them won't change that.
Yes. Because as much as I hate them and what they did to the show there was a point to the Fresh Meat.. They were intended to be a part of this franchise. Can't say that about AYTO. They're physically apart of the show yes but will never be TRULY apart of this franchise. Period. You can post all the cast pics you want. It won't change that fact.
The only fact here is they are part of the franchise now. Whether it's last minute add ons or "True members" is really a stubborn way to think about it.
It's not stubborn. It's the best way to think about it in my mind. They aren't apart of this franchise. They have no business on this show. That is a fact and you can't deny that.
nevidcm wrote:I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time. Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
MTV/BMP sees it diffently but keep being a baby about it.
I don't give a ****. They aren't real cast members period. They aren't Rw, they aren't RR, they aren't even Fresh Meat. They are nothing and they ain't shit in my eyes.
You're willing to accept Fresh meat as cast members but not AYTO?
Here's official cast photo for Rivals 3. With people from RW, AYTO and Bloodlines. They are part of the franchise now and your dismissal of them won't change that.
Yes. Because as much as I hate them and what they did to the show there was a point to the Fresh Meat.. They were intended to be a part of this franchise. Can't say that about AYTO. They're physically apart of the show yes but will never be TRULY apart of this franchise. Period. You can post all the cast pics you want. It won't change that fact.
The only fact here is they are part of the franchise now. Whether it's last minute add ons or "True members" is really a stubborn way to think about it.
It's not stubborn. It's the best way to think about it in my mind. They aren't apart of this franchise. They have no business on this show. That is a fact and you can't deny that.
Ive enjoyed every season for what they were tbh. Like none were bad imo. I feel like every person is there for a reason, some are meant to be nessecwry background characters.
Interesting mindset.
I hate ayto losers almost as much as i hate jemmye.
A huge reason i hate ayto is because of the corny *** concept, oh you guys are perfect for each other become MTV thinks so. How many besides that one couple with a baby are actually still together?
I understand the show isn't Real World/Road Rules anymore and I wasn't fan of Fresh Meat and Camila, but understood their inclusion. (Even though Camila's was stupid, I mean Spring Break Challenge?) I dislike seeing these random AYTO people being dumped on The Challenge because I have no idea who they are. Their show has nothing to do with The Challenge and I really don't care to watch it just so "I can get to get to know them." If BMP/MTV were smart they should've created Fresh Meat 3 and pick eight guys and girls from AYTO and have the "AYTO Fresh Meat" vs. the "Real World Alumni." This way The Challenge would finally have a team challenge and the viewers would just get to know these sixteen new challengers instead of having new random people every single season. Unfortunately, BMP has lost the plot and ended up making the show worse. Instead of gaining new viewers, they ****** away the older ones like myself. I've been addicted to the show for fourteen years, but since Battle of the Exes 2 the love I had for The Challenge slowly faded. Once I saw the cast for Rivals 3, it put the final nail in the coffin. I would encourage people who ***** about the show, but still watch, just to stop. You know you hate the direction of where the show is going and you know it will never be the same again so yourself the misery and stop watching.
Yeah but that's the point, that means it's always not garanteed your perfect match, that'a why they're there to pursue other people even if they can't find their perfect match. Did you expect every couple that was a perfect match to actually stay together.
I was immediately hooked when I saw the promos for Season 1.
I still don't get how AYTO made the show worse. On Exes 2, the AYTO teams didn't make much impact because the RWers were constantly targetting them just for the fact that they were from another show. But they didn't really bring down the show, it was still one of the best seasons in a long time.
Bloodlines was definitely horrid, but the AYTO people weren't even close to being the problem.
I mean well the same goes for Real World, every real world season you gotta get to know a few more people well, well atleast for the many viewers who don't watch real world. and I get this show stemmed form Real World/Road Rules, but haven't you noticed it isn't Real World/Road Rules Challenge anymore, it's the challenge. And now every single intro they mention, "contestants from MTV Real World & AYTO? are here to compete blah blah blah." I feel your fustration but there's something to them being there.
my point is how corny it is. The idea of perfect matches in general means nothing if you dont actually like thd person
They took spots from actual castmembers...that's how they made it worse.
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God **** they are part of the cast now and your kicking and screaming isn't gonna change it.
No they aren't. They never will be no matter how many times you say it.
And as long as they keep getting called they're gonna be castmembers.. no matter how many times you deny it
There is no denying here. They aren't legit cast members. That's it.
There's no arguing here. They are legit cast members. That's it.
You dont see them as cast members but MTV/BMP sees it diffently, but keep being a baby about it.
I don't give a ****. They aren't real cast members period. They aren't Rw, they aren't RR, they aren't even Fresh Meat. They are nothing and they ain't shit in my eyes.
If having an opinion makes him, or anyone else, a baby, then you're talking about a good majority of the people that watch this show.
You're willing to accept Fresh meat as cast members but not AYTO?
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Here's official cast photo for Rivals 3. With people from RW, AYTO and Bloodlines. They are part of the franchise now and your dismissal of them won't change that.
Having opinion doesn't make him a baby. Ranting about "non-castmembers" despite the amout of evidence to debunk those claims over and over does.
He's sticking true to his opinion. And I doubt its denial. They're being cast on the show, so yes, castmembers. I'm pretty sure he knows that.But are they apart of the whole thing? Nah. The Challenge was never meant for them in the first place. Fresh Meat is a completely different thing.Let him rant. Vevmo's a discussion forum. Scroll past it if you can't handle it.
Yes. Because as much as I hate them and what they did to the show there was a point to the Fresh Meat.. They were intended to be a part of this franchise. Can't say that about AYTO. They're physically apart of the show yes but will never be TRULY apart of this franchise. Period. You can post all the cast pics you want. It won't change that fact.
Nah they are. For now and forever. Move over road rules ayto is the new kid on the block <33
I really like Christina and I think Devin could be good for the show, he seems like someone who will always stir the pot. I don't like Dario's cocky ***, but he is sure to get into it with some at least once a season. But the rest I really do not care for. As said I don't mind a few of them on there, I just hope it doesn't come to a point where the show would become dominated and the majority is AYTO. At that point I'd probably stop watching.
The only fact here is they are part of the franchise now. Whether it's last minute add ons or "True members" is really a stubborn way to think about it.
It's not stubborn. It's the best way to think about it in my mind. They aren't apart of this franchise. They have no business on this show. That is a fact and you can't deny that.
"You guys should respect my opinions!!"
Proceeds to call his opinion a fact. :eyeroll:
Thats not what a fact is btw.
It's funny how so many people let random people on the Internet get under their skin lol
I didn't mean that literally.
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