Debut Album wrote:Oh so now you have to have a big moment to return? let me ask you this....What has Leroy done to Justify being on 6 challenges? What has Jenna done in her 2? You can't sit here and say that Trey doesn't deserve to come back yet be perfectly fine with those two nothings coming back every time. If those 2 can get chance after chance then Trey can too. Period. Point. Blank.But it's clear we both got different opinions on Trey so let's just leave it at that.
Why are you naming people who I have publicly announced that I would prefer not to return? Trey doesn't need to return because he's BORING which comes back to my point that BORING people like Leroy do not need to be replaced with BORING people like Trey.[img]http://i.imgur.com/4Z61N0m.gif[/img]
Except he's not BORING. He's always brought something. Unlike Leroy who's brought NOTHING. So you're replacing someone who's BORING with someone who's not boring and could(and probably would) do more than what they've already done. All the other shit aside HE'S BROUGHT SOMETHING! You can't see that but whatever. THAT is my point.
Disagree! Trey hasnt brought anything , even looking at their debut season of both Leroy/Trey...Leroy brought more.I dislike Leroy but I totally see why he ask back , he has always be a fan favorite fans and even production care about him. Trey on the other hand only vevmo people remembers about him.
Well we going to have to agree to disagree because Leroy didn't do shit on Rivals. **** Mike did more than him. And keep in mind that Trey hasn't been back on since Rivals 2 and Leroy has been on every season since his debut(he was Disguised as Alton on Seasons 2) so of course he's gonna be remembered more.
I disagree.Leroy became an instant fan favorite on Vegas 2/Rivals which were his two first season not later on. People remember more about his rookie season than trey's he made it to the end, voewers found him funny ,he was shown as someone that wasnt scared of anyone at that time and even got in a little argument with tyler about it. The on exes 1 he was with Naomi and he storyline of struggling with her. Plus was shown as a strong competitor when he send Wes home.Trey only storyline was that he didnt wanted to work with san diego and then went home. That storyline wasnt big that season. Rivals 2 he was non existent, while Leroy had a mini storyline that same season. Just comparing leroy first 2 seasons and Trey 2 seasons then I would still say that Leroy is still more memorable and I see why they ask him back, while they dont really care about Trey.Trey had 3 opportunitties to be on tv and fans either dont like him or he wasnt memmorable. People remember more about Ana than they do about him
Well...
I don't get a lot of the hate for Trey nor Jay at all.
Trey definitely wasn't shy about not wanting to go what San Diego told him to do, which was pretty much Leroy's storyline on Rivals 1 and by the things you just said...It was always Leroy being passive. It was always him reacting to stuff happened to him, never the other way around. Tyler losing it and being scared of CT, Naomi being the jealous ex-girlfriend. Leroy liked to be under the radar and follow which is pretty much somebody not doing anything on your own aka my view of boring . For me, Leroy finally got interesting character-wise when Bananas was out of the way and he was forced to play and not react (similar to him winning the last daily challenge securring him the final).
I agree with DA, Trey brought drama and definitely did something on his three MTV shows. Hooking up with Laura, his girlfriend coming to visit, fighting with Marie to rule team St.Thomas, dealing with Zach and proving people that he can win. (I mean, there must be a reason why they cast him for Rivals 2...because Zach had enough rivalries from RW/Seasons and twitter alone) You don't have to be liked or memorable in the eyes of MTV production anymore...I guess if you look the latest casting choices.
The problem for Trey was, he debuted in a season span where almost everybody was a rookie and he wasn't special in that regard whereas Leroy debuted in a season where almost everybody was a veteran and he played a solid game as the only really rookie, was paired with an maniac and the nerd. On his next season he was being paired up with the weakest girl on the cast. Again, Leroy only reacted.
If you look at the stats, Trey/Leroy won the same amount of daily challenges (two), where in the same amount of elimination rounds (two). Trey only lost one more (which was against Leroy), but Zach actually DQ'd them...and Trey never actually got the chance to be in an elimination round one-on-one. (I'm sure he would have beaten Wes in that elimination round too btw....).
Funny thing, I personally think, Trey and Leroy could become a good rivalry, since Trey would've been Wes's Leroy.
Was/Is Trey the best rookie? No, but he is not boring either, but in times where rivals teams are paired up just because one says the other is a creep...Anything goes.
Debut Album wrote:Oh so now you have to have a big moment to return? let me ask you this....What has Leroy done to Justify being on 6 challenges? What has Jenna done in her 2? You can't sit here and say that Trey doesn't deserve to come back yet be perfectly fine with those two nothings coming back every time. If those 2 can get chance after chance then Trey can too. Period. Point. Blank.But it's clear we both got different opinions on Trey so let's just leave it at that.
Why are you naming people who I have publicly announced that I would prefer not to return? Trey doesn't need to return because he's BORING which comes back to my point that BORING people like Leroy do not need to be replaced with BORING people like Trey.[img]http://i.imgur.com/4Z61N0m.gif[/img]
Except he's not BORING. He's always brought something. Unlike Leroy who's brought NOTHING. So you're replacing someone who's BORING with someone who's not boring and could(and probably would) do more than what they've already done. All the other shit aside HE'S BROUGHT SOMETHING! You can't see that but whatever. THAT is my point.
Disagree! Trey hasnt brought anything , even looking at their debut season of both Leroy/Trey...Leroy brought more.I dislike Leroy but I totally see why he ask back , he has always be a fan favorite fans and even production care about him. Trey on the other hand only vevmo people remembers about him.
Well we going to have to agree to disagree because Leroy didn't do shit on Rivals. **** Mike did more than him. And keep in mind that Trey hasn't been back on since Rivals 2 and Leroy has been on every season since his debut(he was Disguised as Alton on Seasons 2) so of course he's gonna be remembered more.
I disagree.Leroy became an instant fan favorite on Vegas 2/Rivals which were his two first season not later on. People remember more about his rookie season than trey's he made it to the end, voewers found him funny ,he was shown as someone that wasnt scared of anyone at that time and even got in a little argument with tyler about it. The on exes 1 he was with Naomi and he storyline of struggling with her. Plus was shown as a strong competitor when he send Wes home.Trey only storyline was that he didnt wanted to work with san diego and then went home. That storyline wasnt big that season. Rivals 2 he was non existent, while Leroy had a mini storyline that same season. Just comparing leroy first 2 seasons and Trey 2 seasons then I would still say that Leroy is still more memorable and I see why they ask him back, while they dont really care about Trey.Trey had 3 opportunitties to be on tv and fans either dont like him or he wasnt memmorable. People remember more about Ana than they do about him
Well...I don't get a lot of the hate for Trey nor Jay at all.Trey definitely wasn't shy about not wanting to go what San Diego told him to do, which was pretty much Leroy's storyline on Rivals 1 and by the things you just said...It was always Leroy being passive. It was always him reacting to stuff happened to him, never the other way around. Tyler losing it and being scared of CT, Naomi being the jealous ex-girlfriend. Leroy liked to be under the radar and follow which is pretty much somebody not doing anything on your own aka my view of boring . For me, Leroy finally got interesting character-wise when Bananas was out of the way and he was forced to play and not react (similar to him winning the last daily challenge securring him the final).I agree with DA, Trey brought drama and definitely did something on his three MTV shows. Hooking up with Laura, his girlfriend coming to visit, fighting with Marie to rule team St.Thomas, dealing with Zach and proving people that he can win. (I mean, there must be a reason why they cast him for Rivals 2...because Zach had enough rivalries from RW/Seasons and twitter alone) You don't have to be liked or memorable in the eyes of MTV production anymore...I guess if you look the latest casting choices.The problem for Trey was, he debuted in a season span where almost everybody was a rookie and he wasn't special in that regard whereas Leroy debuted in a season where almost everybody was a veteran and he played a solid game as the only really rookie, was paired with an maniac and the nerd. On his next season he was being paired up with the weakest girl on the cast. Again, Leroy only reacted.If you look at the stats, Trey/Leroy won the same amount of daily challenges (two), where in the same amount of elimination rounds (two). Trey only lost one more (which was against Leroy), but Zach actually DQ'd them...and Trey never actually got the chance to be in an elimination round one-on-one. (I'm sure he would have beaten Wes in that elimination round too btw....). Funny thing, I personally think, Trey and Leroy could become a good rivalry, since Trey would've been Wes's Leroy.Was/Is Trey the best rookie? No, but he is not boring either, but in times where rivals teams are paired up just because one says the other is a creep...Anything goes.
I see Jay back on a challenge, while I feel like production would keep trey as the alternate that wouldnt get on the show like they have been doing...You know that they dont have faith on him, when they dropped him/laura and decide to cast from another show.
I see Jay back on a challenge, while I feel like production would keep trey as the alternate that wouldnt get on the show like they have been doing...You know that they dont have faith on him, when they dropped him/laura and decide to cast from another show.
Jay is coming back lol especially if Thomas didn't do shit this season. He's been getting a bit bigger himself though....all the Jay haters don't start dickriding when he manages to become Derrick 2.0 **** b/c now he has something to prove + everybody has already counted him out.
Jay is coming back lol especially if Thomas didn't do shit this season. He's been getting a bit bigger himself though....all the Jay haters don't start dickriding when he manages to become Derrick 2.0 ****
I actually see him go home early, he have size disadvantage like cohutta. He is not a likable to the cast to keep him around.
Jay is coming back lol especially if Thomas didn't do shit this season. He's been getting a bit bigger himself though....all the Jay haters don't start dickriding when he manages to become Derrick 2.0 **** b/c now he has something to prove + everybody has already counted him out.
Jay is coming back lol especially if Thomas didn't do shit this season. He's been getting a bit bigger himself though....all the Jay haters don't start dickriding when he manages to become Derrick 2.0 **** b/c now he has something to prove + everybody has already counted him out.
BYE! I'll always dislike Jay I couldn't care less (and don't even believe) he'd become Derrick 2.0. Derricks likable and not a narcissistic, thirsty little gremlin who runs his mouth.
he seemed to have a lot of friends on his real world season until the reunion. **** he was even one of the only people who got along with ashley caesar
i honestly dont see this irritation that people have with him. he cheated on jenna, so what? most people would lol
what problem do people have with jay? he seemed to have a lot of friends on his real world season until the reunion. **** he was even one of the only people who got along with ashley caesar
Jay is coming back lol especially if Thomas didn't do shit this season. He's been getting a bit bigger himself though....all the Jay haters don't start dickriding when he manages to become Derrick 2.0 **** b/c now he has something to prove + everybody has already counted him out.
And especially if Cory declines and they can't get Brian.
Speaking of Cory, is that movie he's supposed to be in going to be a theater release? I probably just answered my own question **** but he might have an early retirement himself...especially since he also can't seem to stay out of the **** hospital smh his legs are going to fall off.
Speaking of Cory, is that movie he's supposed to be in going to be a theater release? I probably just answered my own question **** but he might have an early retirement himself...especially since he also can't seem to stay out of the **** hospital smh his legs are going to fall off.
I'm sure that movie is straight to DVD or Netflix...
Speaking of Cory, is that movie he's supposed to be in going to be a theater release? I probably just answered my own question **** but he might have an early retirement himself...especially since he also can't seem to stay out of the **** hospital smh his legs are going to fall off.
Oh he's in a movie? Oh yeah if that's the case then he's not long for these shows himself...provided he's trying to be a serious actor and he wants to get legit roles.
I can't take some of y'all serious when you talk bad about people from AYTO but be asking for the most tragic people from Real World to return. DEAD @ whoever lied saying Jay got bigger he still looks like a extra from Diary of a Wimpy Kid.
Speaking of Cory, is that movie he's supposed to be in going to be a theater release? I probably just answered my own question **** but he might have an early retirement himself...especially since he also can't seem to stay out of the **** hospital smh his legs are going to fall off.
I'm sure that movie is straight to DVD or Netflix...
I figured I already knew the answer lol just needed to make sure.
I can't take some of y'all serious when you talk bad about people from AYTO but be asking for the most tragic people from Real World to return. DEAD @ whoever lied saying Jay got bigger he still looks like a extra from Diary of a Wimpy Kid.
Leroy > Trey.
Trey will never be a fan favorite like Leroy.
Does he deserve to be cast over some of the AYTO *****? Absolutely.
lol.. Trey's actually been on camera, unlike Leroy.
Probably the only time we've seen him is when he's leaving.
Now that I can agree with.
Well...
I don't get a lot of the hate for Trey nor Jay at all.
Trey definitely wasn't shy about not wanting to go what San Diego told him to do, which was pretty much Leroy's storyline on Rivals 1 and by the things you just said...It was always Leroy being passive. It was always him reacting to stuff happened to him, never the other way around. Tyler losing it and being scared of CT, Naomi being the jealous ex-girlfriend. Leroy liked to be under the radar and follow which is pretty much somebody not doing anything on your own aka my view of boring . For me, Leroy finally got interesting character-wise when Bananas was out of the way and he was forced to play and not react (similar to him winning the last daily challenge securring him the final).
I agree with DA, Trey brought drama and definitely did something on his three MTV shows. Hooking up with Laura, his girlfriend coming to visit, fighting with Marie to rule team St.Thomas, dealing with Zach and proving people that he can win. (I mean, there must be a reason why they cast him for Rivals 2...because Zach had enough rivalries from RW/Seasons and twitter alone) You don't have to be liked or memorable in the eyes of MTV production anymore...I guess if you look the latest casting choices.
The problem for Trey was, he debuted in a season span where almost everybody was a rookie and he wasn't special in that regard whereas Leroy debuted in a season where almost everybody was a veteran and he played a solid game as the only really rookie, was paired with an maniac and the nerd. On his next season he was being paired up with the weakest girl on the cast. Again, Leroy only reacted.
If you look at the stats, Trey/Leroy won the same amount of daily challenges (two), where in the same amount of elimination rounds (two). Trey only lost one more (which was against Leroy), but Zach actually DQ'd them...and Trey never actually got the chance to be in an elimination round one-on-one. (I'm sure he would have beaten Wes in that elimination round too btw....).
Funny thing, I personally think, Trey and Leroy could become a good rivalry, since Trey would've been Wes's Leroy.
Was/Is Trey the best rookie? No, but he is not boring either, but in times where rivals teams are paired up just because one says the other is a creep...Anything goes.
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Excellent post and very well stated.
I see Jay back on a challenge, while I feel like production would keep trey as the alternate that wouldnt get on the show like they have been doing...You know that they dont have faith on him, when they dropped him/laura and decide to cast from another show.
ugh no need for that little quitter back.
Jay is coming back lol especially if Thomas didn't do shit this season. He's been getting a bit bigger himself though....all the Jay haters don't start dickriding when he manages to become Derrick 2.0 **** b/c now he has something to prove + everybody has already counted him out.
I actually see him go home early, he have size disadvantage like cohutta. He is not a likable to the cast to keep him around.
Or naaah. LOL.
lol never that XD
BYE! I'll always dislike Jay I couldn't care less (and don't even believe) he'd become Derrick 2.0. Derricks likable and not a narcissistic, thirsty little gremlin who runs his mouth.
Cory>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thomas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Brian
what problem do people have with jay?
he seemed to have a lot of friends on his real world season until the reunion. **** he was even one of the only people who got along with ashley caesar
i honestly dont see this irritation that people have with him. he cheated on jenna, so what? most people would lol
Lmaoooo have some faith! I think he has the potential to get to that point honestly.
Mitc****? Everyone liked Caesar I thought..
And especially if Cory declines and they can't get Brian.
yeah youre right i meant mitchell
They better have treated Jenny like the queen she is during the real world after show. I NEED her back!
Speaking of Cory, is that movie he's supposed to be in going to be a theater release? I probably just answered my own question **** but he might have an early retirement himself...especially since he also can't seem to stay out of the **** hospital smh his legs are going to fall off.
I can't take some of y'all serious when you talk bad about people from AYTO but be asking for the most tragic people from Real World to return.
DEAD @ whoever lied saying Jay got bigger he still looks like a extra from Diary of a Wimpy Kid.
I'm sure that movie is straight to DVD or Netflix...
Oh he's in a movie? Oh yeah if that's the case then he's not long for these shows himself...provided he's trying to be a serious actor and he wants to get legit roles.
I figured I already knew the answer lol just needed to make sure.
LOL. As if anyone from AYTO is any better.
Yeah... that movie Cory is in looks like a flop, doubt it'll make him retire anytime soon.
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