I'm always of the opinion that the JEK era is what drove this show into the ground. A lot of the longtime older fans stopped watching because of them & it was just a generally dark time for the show in general.Had those clowns never been on the show, I really feel like it would have been COMPLETELY different, but in positive ways.
This newer era (Rivals to now) gave the show life up until about Free Agents. That's when things IMO went downhill. Casting got super repetitive and the show took a different rotate with formats getting overly complicated but not having the proper cast to balance it out. Exes 2 gave me hope that show could come back but even then I was left a little underwhelmed with that season and BOTB is just all of over the place and it seems the same ole cast members are getting attention so like what was the point of bringing on 14 new people?
I think Rivals III could be good but the excessive AYTO is a really big problem. I'm all for a lot rookies because of that whole Rookie vs. Veteran dynamic but from the Real World not AYTO. They can't do shit.
The only reason I think we got a bunch of AYTO this season was because so many RW cast members declined. So in order to get 13 teams, they had to bring in some AYTO people. It seems like BOTB was about to not have any AYTO people until some alumni declined forcing them to cast Christina and probably Dario. Season 29, I think if they go individual then we may get those who have been on a challenge like Dario, Devin, Amanda, etc. but possibly no one new. Unless they do an Exes 3. Then we will probably get a ton of them because I see many RW people declining.
Mean Girl era > JEK era > New School era > Old School era.
Eh the JEK era with Paula, Bananas, Kenny, Jenn, Evan was alright. That whole Inferno 3-Cutthroat era was my least fave. A lot of randoms that never saw the light of day. And many people kinda disappeared during this era or popped up every other season.
I was including Rivals 1 in that era. My favorites were on regularly so that's probably why I enjoyed it so much. The Ruins and Rivals 1 are in my top 5 favorite seasons as well.
DScott wrote:Why haven't you guys watched the old challenges? You really never saw Syrus on Gauntlet 2.
Lol the older challenge I have watched is the Gaunlet 3. I dont know where to watch older seasons.
Eek why are you a fan of this. You didn't even see the Duel lol. You can usually google it and find old challenges. That's how I rewatched them in the past.
I made my boyfriend watch the first episode of the duel yesterday. And he actually liked it. I remember watching that season when it first aired. They use to play sooooo many reruns and I watched them all. I even remember that awkward moment when my mom walked into my room while I was the gauntlet and Abram/Veronica/Rachel were making out in the bathtub. So awk. She even banned MTV from my room ********* So I had to watch the challenge in the living rooms on the weekends. DEAD.
Hahahah and glad he liked the first episode of the Duel, I love that season.
The only reason I think we got a bunch of AYTO this season was because so many RW cast members declined. So in order to get 13 teams, they had to bring in some AYTO people. It seems like BOTB was about to not have any AYTO people until some alumni declined forcing them to cast Christina and probably Dario. Season 29, I think if they go individual then we may get those who have been on a challenge like Dario, Devin, Amanda, etc. but possibly no one new. Unless they do an Exes 3. Then we will probably get a ton of them because I see many RW people declining.
Common sense should have told them to SCRAP it if people were declining but of course, we're talking about people who aren't the brightest bulbs in the box...
The only reason I think we got a bunch of AYTO this season was because so many RW cast members declined. So in order to get 13 teams, they had to bring in some AYTO people. It seems like BOTB was about to not have any AYTO people until some alumni declined forcing them to cast Christina and probably Dario. Season 29, I think if they go individual then we may get those who have been on a challenge like Dario, Devin, Amanda, etc. but possibly no one new. Unless they do an Exes 3. Then we will probably get a ton of them because I see many RW people declining.
Dario was part of bloodlines from the get go.
Okay but I highly doubt they wanted 10 of them on this season.
At first I wasnt excited about ayto on this season, now I am lol
Well yeah. It's all you are use too lol But if you can't realize that 10 of them being on one challenge too much then you aren't a true challenge fan IMO.
I agree 10 is way to much even 8 is to much lol
But that doesnt mean I am not excited for them , there is nothing I can fo to change casting
I'm always of the opinion that the JEK era is what drove this show into the ground. A lot of the longtime older fans stopped watching because of them & it was just a generally dark time for the show in general.Had those clowns never been on the show, I really feel like it would have been COMPLETELY different, but in positive ways.
This newer era (Rivals to now) gave the show life up until about Free Agents. That's when things IMO went downhill. Casting got super repetitive and the show took a different rotate with formats getting overly complicated but not having the proper cast to balance it out. Exes 2 gave me hope that show could come back but even then I was left a little underwhelmed with that season and BOTB is just all of over the place and it seems the same ole cast members are getting attention so like what was the point of bringing on 14 new people? I think Rivals III could be good but the excessive AYTO is a really big problem. I'm all for a lot rookies because of that whole Rookie vs. Veteran dynamic but from the Real World not AYTO. They can't do shit.
Oh yeah the cast for Free Agents should've been ******* STELLAR. There was no reason in the world why that cast couldn't have been so much better (even though it did give us some surprises & the dynamic newer people).
Exes 2 was great but it was moreso just how things turned out within the game....plus the fact that miss Nia Moore came to play that season but even still, the whole Exile thing was some bullshit.
People are really not feeling Bloodlines at all it seems **** for some reason I don't mind it yet but I don't hear much good about it from either fanbase...the casuals are just waiting for the CT Show yet again (which is such a big part of what's wrong with the show). But the alumni could've been a lot better (of course) & it would be great if they would actually focus on the people whom the show is supposed to be about (the bloodlines). I don't understand why the **** they keep doing that; they did the same with a lot of the Fresh Meat 2 people.
I'm starting to be 50/50 on Simone (she is trying WAY too hard to fill the drama role whereas it was a lot more natural on AYTO), I do like Cheyenne from what i've seen of her & Briana is sexy....
Going forward, it should just be 4-6 AYTO that they roll with as a part of the show. Any of Adam/Dario/Nelson & Simone/Briana/Cheyenne. It would be better if none at all were used & this season will flush them out, but MTV/BMP insists that they happen smh
schaboszczak wrote:And I feel like most of the ancient vets will flop so hard nowadays. Look at Veronica in Ruins.
People like Darrell and Derrick wouldn't. Veronica was never that great of a competitor to begin with.
Darell flops even in FM2, and D kinda in Cutthroat, so idk.
Cara Maria was the flop, Darrell did what he was supposed to do but you're only as good as your partner in these types of formats.I'm still scratching my head at that. How are you JUST now winning when you've had Darrell, Laurel & Cooke as partners?
She won because she had no competition in the final.
schaboszczak wrote:And I feel like most of the ancient vets will flop so hard nowadays. Look at Veronica in Ruins.
People like Darrell and Derrick wouldn't. Veronica was never that great of a competitor to begin with.
Darell flops even in FM2, and D kinda in Cutthroat, so idk.
Cara "flopped" and D didn't flop at all in Cutthroat.
LOL if Darell was that great he could have drag her *** like Landon did with Carley in final.Derrick floped same as Bananas in Cutthroat imo.
The whole point is you shouldn't have to drag ANY partner in a mission/elmination/final, especially since CM did so well in the combine...Darrell (like all the viewers at home & the other castmembers) expected CM to dominate against Pete/Jillian. She was the flop 100%.
schaboszczak wrote:And I feel like most of the ancient vets will flop so hard nowadays. Look at Veronica in Ruins.
People like Darrell and Derrick wouldn't. Veronica was never that great of a competitor to begin with.
Darell flops even in FM2, and D kinda in Cutthroat, so idk.
Cara "flopped" and D didn't flop at all in Cutthroat.
LOL if Darell was that great he could have drag her *** like Landon did with Carley in final.Derrick floped same as Bananas in Cutthroat imo.
Okay I am now understanding the dislike for new school fans lol. You can't compare that final to that elimination. On top of that Darrell has never been as good as Landon.
How did Derrick flop exactly? The guy was top 2 on his team all season and he was the last guy on his squad. He just lost to Tyler's fat *** in something that favored him.
Most people don't even know how far Susie goes back smh
Syrus wasn't playing NO games ****!
This newer era (Rivals to now) gave the show life up until about Free Agents. That's when things IMO went downhill. Casting got super repetitive and the show took a different rotate with formats getting overly complicated but not having the proper cast to balance it out. Exes 2 gave me hope that show could come back but even then I was left a little underwhelmed with that season and BOTB is just all of over the place and it seems the same ole cast members are getting attention so like what was the point of bringing on 14 new people?
I think Rivals III could be good but the excessive AYTO is a really big problem. I'm all for a lot rookies because of that whole Rookie vs. Veteran dynamic but from the Real World not AYTO. They can't do shit.
Dario was part of bloodlines from the get go.
I was including Rivals 1 in that era. My favorites were on regularly so that's probably why I enjoyed it so much. The Ruins and Rivals 1 are in my top 5 favorite seasons as well.
Hahahah and glad he liked the first episode of the Duel, I love that season.
Common sense should have told them to SCRAP it if people were declining but of course, we're talking about people who aren't the brightest bulbs in the box...
Yessssssss Syrus yessssss!!!! I need to go back and watch this season. That fight got my hyped lol
At first I wasnt excited about ayto on this season, now I am lol
Okay but I highly doubt they wanted 10 of them on this season.
Well yeah. It's all you are use too lol
But if you can't realize that 10 of them being on one challenge too much then you aren't a true challenge fan IMO.
And I feel like most of the ancient vets will flop so hard nowadays. Look at Veronica in Ruins.
I agree 10 is way to much even 8 is to much lol
But that doesnt mean I am not excited for them , there is nothing I can fo to change casting
Oh yeah the cast for Free Agents should've been ******* STELLAR. There was no reason in the world why that cast couldn't have been so much better (even though it did give us some surprises & the dynamic newer people).
Exes 2 was great but it was moreso just how things turned out within the game....plus the fact that miss Nia Moore came to play that season but even still, the whole Exile thing was some bullshit.
People are really not feeling Bloodlines at all it seems **** for some reason I don't mind it yet but I don't hear much good about it from either fanbase...the casuals are just waiting for the CT Show yet again (which is such a big part of what's wrong with the show). But the alumni could've been a lot better (of course) & it would be great if they would actually focus on the people whom the show is supposed to be about (the bloodlines). I don't understand why the **** they keep doing that; they did the same with a lot of the Fresh Meat 2 people.
But what is TRUE challenge fan tho?
What got you excited for them?
People like Darrell and Derrick wouldn't. Veronica was never that great of a competitor to begin with.
I think the rumors, I have heard while doing spoilers.
Darell flops even in FM2, and D kinda in Cutthroat, so idk.
I'm starting to be 50/50 on Simone (she is trying WAY too hard to fill the drama role whereas it was a lot more natural on AYTO), I do like Cheyenne from what i've seen of her & Briana is sexy....
Going forward, it should just be 4-6 AYTO that they roll with as a part of the show. Any of Adam/Dario/Nelson & Simone/Briana/Cheyenne. It would be better if none at all were used & this season will flush them out, but MTV/BMP insists that they happen smh
Cara "flopped" and D didn't flop at all in Cutthroat.
Cara Maria was the flop, Darrell did what he was supposed to do but you're only as good as your partner in these types of formats.
I'm still scratching my head at that. How are you JUST now winning when you've had Darrell, Laurel & Cooke as partners?
After this season I can see Devin becoming a regular
LOL if Darell was that great he could have drag her *** like Landon did with Carley in final.
Derrick floped same as Bananas in Cutthroat imo.
She won because she had no competition in the final.
Plus people must not have seen Darrell lately...I have no doubt that he would get his 5th IF he ever gets to come back.
Has he IG or something like this? I'm curious now.
The whole point is you shouldn't have to drag ANY partner in a mission/elmination/final, especially since CM did so well in the combine...Darrell (like all the viewers at home & the other castmembers) expected CM to dominate against Pete/Jillian. She was the flop 100%.
Okay I am now understanding the dislike for new school fans lol. You can't compare that final to that elimination. On top of that Darrell has never been as good as Landon.
How did Derrick flop exactly? The guy was top 2 on his team all season and he was the last guy on his squad. He just lost to Tyler's fat *** in something that favored him.
Mtvrrdarrell is his twitter...forgot his IG but you can find it through there. He's in better shape now than he ever was on the shows.
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