I think Jordan is underrated. He definitely has the brains, speed and endurance. He is a bit smaller in size than CT/Bananas/Zach/Leroy but you gotta give it to him, he's pretty darn good for a guy with just one hand.
Leroy and Zach on the other hand only has the strength and size over the guys. Jordan beat Zach in the hammer elimination round fair and square with one hand. Leroy will win any elimination round as long as its physical.
Final wise - it would be hard to tell between Jordan/CT/Bananas.
I think they are getting much smarter about casting. They did make Ashley M. happen this time.
I agree to some extent. Ashley was probably the only smart choice they made out of casting first-timers. Hopefully next challenge we can finally get Jenny, Jamie, Violetta, or Sylvia.
I think they are getting much smarter about casting. They did make Ashley M. happen this time.
1 step forward (Ashley), then 5 steps back (10 AYTO people when viewers haven't been receptive to them).
Just Ashley is not enough for me....that's just me though.
What doesn't make sense to me is that they claim they can't cast older castmates because people don't remember them.....People don't even know who the **** Devin and Cheyenne are. They had like 4,000 followers before leaving for the challenge. Makes no ******* sense IMO when they won't cast oldies because "you won't be remembered".
I think they are getting much smarter about casting. They did make Ashley M. happen this time.
1 step forward (Ashley), then 5 steps back (10 AYTO people when viewers haven't been receptive to them).
Just Ashley is not enough for me....that's just me though.
What doesn't make sense to me is that they claim they can't cast older castmates because people don't remember them.....People don't even know who the **** Devin and Cheyenne are. They had like 4,000 followers before leaving for the challenge. Makes no ******* sense IMO when they won't cast oldies because "you won't be remembered".
Exactly. Meanwhile a lot of old time challenge fans don't watch AYTO but know/remember people from the older seasons.
I think they are getting much smarter about casting. They did make Ashley M. happen this time.
1 step forward (Ashley), then 5 steps back (10 AYTO people when viewers haven't been receptive to them).
Just Ashley is not enough for me....that's just me though.
What doesn't make sense to me is that they claim they can't cast older castmates because people don't remember them.....People don't even know who the **** Devin and Cheyenne are. They had like 4,000 followers before leaving for the challenge. Makes no ******* sense IMO when they won't cast oldies because "you won't be remembered".
And I'm willing to be that those older castmembers probably WILL be remembered too. I see some people on social media wanting back a few of the older vets/castmembers and the people that don't know them will know them by the end of the season just like Cohutta/Issac/Emilee on Free Agents.
I think they are getting much smarter about casting. They did make Ashley M. happen this time.
1 step forward (Ashley), then 5 steps back (10 AYTO people when viewers haven't been receptive to them).
Just Ashley is not enough for me....that's just me though.
What doesn't make sense to me is that they claim they can't cast older castmates because people don't remember them.....People don't even know who the **** Devin and Cheyenne are. They had like 4,000 followers before leaving for the challenge. Makes no ******* sense IMO when they won't cast oldies because "you won't be remembered".
On top of that, they get brought back into the game for what seems to be for no apparent reason (at least until PR finds out more information).
It's just not the smart way to go at all in terms of trying to get viewers to accept AYTO as a part of The Challenge, especially on Rivals 3. If they were going to go that route, they should've scrapped Rivals 3 and done RW/RR v.s. AYTO/Bloodlines instead.
As far as them casting old-schoolers, they just feed people bullshit & people run with it. The producers/casting directions know just as well as anybody that the old-school people are definitely remembered, they just have their own agendas that they want to get across.
I never said Bananas wasn't good for the show. He was interesting to me at one point in time. Like Cutthroat and before. Then after Rivals he kinda was just there. I mean he was intersting on Rivals like at the end when he through that ***** fit. He could have been replaced on Exes and Rivals II. He was alright on Free Agents because for once someone other than Wes or CT was against him. He was great on Exes 2! Why? Because he got eliminated halfway through and things to me got even better. Then he came back and really embarrassed himself. I think his presence on Bloodlines will be the same as we seen lately. Nothing significant. Rivals III I think will be better for him, granted he could win. But many allies for him were cast so idk. After that a break would be nice so some others can compete and fight against each other and have a chance. These new schoolers actually aren't bad. Seasons and Exes 2 showed us that.
I think they are getting much smarter about casting. They did make Ashley M. happen this time.
1 step forward (Ashley), then 5 steps back (10 AYTO people when viewers haven't been receptive to them).
Just Ashley is not enough for me....that's just me though.
What doesn't make sense to me is that they claim they can't cast older castmates because people don't remember them.....People don't even know who the **** Devin and Cheyenne are. They had like 4,000 followers before leaving for the challenge. Makes no ******* sense IMO when they won't cast oldies because "you won't be remembered".
On top of that, they get brought back into the game for what seems to be for no apparent reason (at least until PR finds out more information).
It's just not the smart way to go at all in terms of trying to get viewers to accept AYTO as a part of The Challenge, especially on Rivals 3. If they were going to go that route, they should've scrapped Rivals 3 and done RW/RR v.s. AYTO/Bloodlines instead.
As far as them casting old-schoolers, they just feed people bullshit & people run with it. The producers/casting directions know just as well as anybody that the old-school people are definitely remembered, they just have their own agendas that they want to get across.
I feel you bro on the old schoolers thing but at this point it's kinda a broken record. They only want CT, Bananas, Wes, and maybe Mark and Brad. Aneesa, Trishelle, Sarah, KellyAnne, possibly Ruthie and really Jenn, Svetlana, Paula, Beth, and Coral who continue to decline. Other than that we aren't gonna get many more.
I think they are getting much smarter about casting. They did make Ashley M. happen this time.
I agree to some extent. Ashley was probably the only smart choice they made out of casting first-timers. Hopefully next challenge we can finally get Jenny, Jamie, Violetta, or Sylvia.
They cast them because they wanted Cory for coed rivals and she just was the cherry on top
I think they are getting much smarter about casting. They did make Ashley M. happen this time.
I agree to some extent. Ashley was probably the only smart choice they made out of casting first-timers. Hopefully next challenge we can finally get Jenny, Jamie, Violetta, or Sylvia.
I wonder if Jamie will finally say yes to Challenge 29. My guess is that she won't, but I'm hoping for the best. New Season = New Hope, *****.
Not only those four need to appear, but LaToya needs to make a reappearence.
I think they are getting much smarter about casting. They did make Ashley M. happen this time.
1 step forward (Ashley), then 5 steps back (10 AYTO people when viewers haven't been receptive to them).
Just Ashley is not enough for me....that's just me though.
What doesn't make sense to me is that they claim they can't cast older castmates because people don't remember them.....People don't even know who the **** Devin and Cheyenne are. They had like 4,000 followers before leaving for the challenge. Makes no ******* sense IMO when they won't cast oldies because "you won't be remembered".
Cheyenne has almost 50k on IG, Twitter I dont even look at it. I feel like that social network is dying
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
The addition of ayto is equal lazy easy casting, like before when people declined they were forced to dig into the casting pool and feel the spots like they did for free agents.
Now days with 61 , soon to be 81 ayto cast members those spots are easy to fill.
The quicker he retires, the better. The producers & casting directions will actually have to start trying again.
Do you really think thats he is the reason why they cast the way they do? Bananas retires casting is not going to change.
I think it would at least a little bit, especially if Wes is the only go-to Vet left (which it seems like he himself can done any day now). If they were smart (big IF), they would watch social media closely to see how well Abe is received when he appears on Bloodlines.
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
Honestly...it's their own fault. They relied so heavily on JEK and CT in the past that now a majority of their audience will only watch if they're on. Like I really think some newer viewers think that The Challenge started with them or something. It's no longer about past seasons coming together for a show, its....as PR put it "The Bananas/CT/Wes show with supporting cast", which is a **** shame.
In the past, we used to get the most random cast show up, I mean yea we had the frequent people of Veronica/Miz/Coral and others but for the most part the cast was always diverse. Look at Battle of the Sexes 1 and 2.
I think we will get fewer AYTO people next challenge especially if it's filmed in the summer. I think if they do it in the summer a lot of people would be open to appearing.
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
The addition of ayto is equal lazy easy casting, like before when people declined they were forced to dig into the casting pool and feel the spots like they did for free agents. Now days with 61 , soon to be 81 ayto cast members those spots are easy to fill.
I hear you, but none of it still makes sense seeing as how there are multiple RW/RR/FM people actually wanting to come back. Like Trey for example, just cast the ************ **** like what is the issue? They're making it harder than it should be honestly.
I'm not going to try to make sense of it anymore though, i'll just put my money where my mouth is.
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
I actually think the show is in a good position. If Bloodlines does well then I could see the show getting 2 more seasons which would give it 30 seasons total. So buckle up Graphik!
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
Honestly...it's their own fault. They relied so heavily on JEK and CT in the past that now a majority of their audience will only watch if they're on. Like I really think some newer viewers think that The Challenge started with them or something. It's no longer about past seasons coming together for a show, its....as PR put it "The Bananas/CT/Wes show with supporting cast", which is a **** shame.
In the past, we used to get the most random cast show up, I mean yea we had the frequent people of Veronica/Miz/Coral and others but for the most part the cast was always diverse. Look at Battle of the Sexes 1 and 2.
Gauntlet 1/Inferno 1....Inferno 2/Gauntlet 2....**** even Duel 2/Ruins. Those days are gone & it's up to the viewer whether they want to continue with the BS lol
**** Trey just gets sadder every year the guy will give away the new theme and how he doesn't fit it on twitter each time. While a new show has popped up on MTV and they are getting the calls too before him. #dead
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
I actually think the show is in a good position. If Bloodlines does well then I could see the show getting 2 more seasons which would give it 30 seasons total. So buckle up Graphik!
Buckle up my ***, I'm on board for Bloodlines & only Bloodlines as of now ****...my decision with Challenge 29 (if they get one) will depend solely on the cast. They have one person whom, if cast, will get me to watch for as long as she lasts....but her eligiblity status is still up in the air smh. There are a lot of others who could get me to watch but a lot of them don't want to come back at all, want to come back but don't get asked back or are being very wishy-washy with wanting to do them.
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
I actually think the show is in a good position. If Bloodlines does well then I could see the show getting 2 more seasons which would give it 30 seasons total. So buckle up Graphik!
If the show gets around 800-**** it would be a hit on MTV and probably get another season. How time have change lol
I think we will get fewer AYTO people next challenge especially if it's filmed in the summer. I think if they do it in the summer a lot of people would be open to appearing.
Only reason we got hella AYTO this season is because the RW/FM people declined so in order to get 13 teams they had to go with more AYTO people. They only really fit a rivals and exes theme.
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
The addition of ayto is equal lazy easy casting, like before when people declined they were forced to dig into the casting pool and feel the spots like they did for free agents. Now days with 61 , soon to be 81 ayto cast members those spots are easy to fill.
I hear you, but none of it still makes sense seeing as how there are multiple RW/RR/FM people actually wanting to come back. Like Trey for example, just cast the ************ **** like what is the issue? They're making it harder than it should be honestly.
I'm not going to try to make sense of it anymore though, i'll just put my money where my mouth is.
I think you guys you would hate me lol If I was in charge of casting, I personally wouldnt cast Trey
I think Jordan is underrated. He definitely has the brains, speed and endurance. He is a bit smaller in size than CT/Bananas/Zach/Leroy but you gotta give it to him, he's pretty darn good for a guy with just one hand.
Leroy and Zach on the other hand only has the strength and size over the guys. Jordan beat Zach in the hammer elimination round fair and square with one hand. Leroy will win any elimination round as long as its physical.
Final wise - it would be hard to tell between Jordan/CT/Bananas.
1 step forward (Ashley), then 5 steps back (10 AYTO people when viewers haven't been receptive to them).
Just Ashley is not enough for me....that's just me though.
What doesn't make sense to me is that they claim they can't cast older castmates because people don't remember them.....People don't even know who the **** Devin and Cheyenne are. They had like 4,000 followers before leaving for the challenge. Makes no ******* sense IMO when they won't cast oldies because "you won't be remembered".
ct has beaten leroy before....so i don't think it will be easey for leroy to beat him or zach.it will be close
finals ct/bananas are monsters...they are really all rounded.
To my opinion jordan is only better than leroy at finals.
For the rest it's their game to lose, they will be always the favourite against jordan.
Exactly. Meanwhile a lot of old time challenge fans don't watch AYTO but know/remember people from the older seasons.
And I'm willing to be that those older castmembers probably WILL be remembered too. I see some people on social media wanting back a few of the older vets/castmembers and the people that don't know them will know them by the end of the season just like Cohutta/Issac/Emilee on Free Agents.
On top of that, they get brought back into the game for what seems to be for no apparent reason (at least until PR finds out more information).
It's just not the smart way to go at all in terms of trying to get viewers to accept AYTO as a part of The Challenge, especially on Rivals 3. If they were going to go that route, they should've scrapped Rivals 3 and done RW/RR v.s. AYTO/Bloodlines instead.
As far as them casting old-schoolers, they just feed people bullshit & people run with it. The producers/casting directions know just as well as anybody that the old-school people are definitely remembered, they just have their own agendas that they want to get across.
I never said Bananas wasn't good for the show. He was interesting to me at one point in time. Like Cutthroat and before. Then after Rivals he kinda was just there. I mean he was intersting on Rivals like at the end when he through that ***** fit. He could have been replaced on Exes and Rivals II. He was alright on Free Agents because for once someone other than Wes or CT was against him. He was great on Exes 2! Why? Because he got eliminated halfway through and things to me got even better. Then he came back and really embarrassed himself. I think his presence on Bloodlines will be the same as we seen lately. Nothing significant. Rivals III I think will be better for him, granted he could win. But many allies for him were cast so idk. After that a break would be nice so some others can compete and fight against each other and have a chance. These new schoolers actually aren't bad. Seasons and Exes 2 showed us that.
I feel you bro on the old schoolers thing but at this point it's kinda a broken record. They only want CT, Bananas, Wes, and maybe Mark and Brad. Aneesa, Trishelle, Sarah, KellyAnne, possibly Ruthie and really Jenn, Svetlana, Paula, Beth, and Coral who continue to decline. Other than that we aren't gonna get many more.
Its pretty much the end of an era.
Do you really think thats he is the reason why they cast the way they do? Bananas retires casting is not going to change.
They cast them because they wanted Cory for coed rivals and she just was the cherry on top
Who wants to bet that a few, or a majority of the AYTO castmembers will be complaining if NONE of them are used for next season? ****.
I wonder if Jamie will finally say yes to Challenge 29. My guess is that she won't, but I'm hoping for the best. New Season = New Hope, *****.
Not only those four need to appear, but LaToya needs to make a reappearence.
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Cheyenne has almost 50k on IG, Twitter I dont even look at it. I feel like that social network is dying
Oh I know, I was just saying that they basically need to cut the bullshit, like with this whole thing of the AYTO people being cheaper to cast (this STILL goes over my head, as I would think it would cost more but whatever).
The era has been gone for a while; longtime viewers like me have kept hope alive that one day, JUST MAYBE, BMP/MTV will get their shit together. That shit is dead now.
Honestly, the show seems to be very close to being cancelled again....it would explain their decisions with this particular Challenge a little better.
The addition of ayto is equal lazy easy casting, like before when people declined they were forced to dig into the casting pool and feel the spots like they did for free agents.
Now days with 61 , soon to be 81 ayto cast members those spots are easy to fill.
I think it would at least a little bit, especially if Wes is the only go-to Vet left (which it seems like he himself can done any day now). If they were smart (big IF), they would watch social media closely to see how well Abe is received when he appears on Bloodlines.
Honestly...it's their own fault. They relied so heavily on JEK and CT in the past that now a majority of their audience will only watch if they're on. Like I really think some newer viewers think that The Challenge started with them or something. It's no longer about past seasons coming together for a show, its....as PR put it "The Bananas/CT/Wes show with supporting cast", which is a **** shame.
In the past, we used to get the most random cast show up, I mean yea we had the frequent people of Veronica/Miz/Coral and others but for the most part the cast was always diverse. Look at Battle of the Sexes 1 and 2.
I think we will get fewer AYTO people next challenge especially if it's filmed in the summer. I think if they do it in the summer a lot of people would be open to appearing.
I hear you, but none of it still makes sense seeing as how there are multiple RW/RR/FM people actually wanting to come back. Like Trey for example, just cast the ************ **** like what is the issue? They're making it harder than it should be honestly.
I'm not going to try to make sense of it anymore though, i'll just put my money where my mouth is.
I actually think the show is in a good position. If Bloodlines does well then I could see the show getting 2 more seasons which would give it 30 seasons total. So buckle up Graphik!
Gauntlet 1/Inferno 1....Inferno 2/Gauntlet 2....**** even Duel 2/Ruins. Those days are gone & it's up to the viewer whether they want to continue with the BS lol
**** Trey just gets sadder every year the guy will give away the new theme and how he doesn't fit it on twitter each time. While a new show has popped up on MTV and they are getting the calls too before him. #dead
i think tony/cory will fill the gap if ct/bananas are done.
especially tony since he is a mess, reminds me a bit of a young ct.
he will be a fan favourite
Buckle up my ***, I'm on board for Bloodlines & only Bloodlines as of now ****...my decision with Challenge 29 (if they get one) will depend solely on the cast. They have one person whom, if cast, will get me to watch for as long as she lasts....but her eligiblity status is still up in the air smh. There are a lot of others who could get me to watch but a lot of them don't want to come back at all, want to come back but don't get asked back or are being very wishy-washy with wanting to do them.
If the show gets around 800-**** it would be a hit on MTV and probably get another season. How time have change lol
Only reason we got hella AYTO this season is because the RW/FM people declined so in order to get 13 teams they had to go with more AYTO people. They only really fit a rivals and exes theme.
I think you guys you would hate me lol If I was in charge of casting, I personally wouldnt cast Trey
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