So are we agreed that Jonna killed that elimination? I think she did just as well as, if not better than, Sarah despite being considerably smaller.
And with regards to Jonna looking kind of peeved when Sarah hugged her... I don't think Jonna dislikes Sarah (they interact on social media sometimes) or that Sarah meant to rub it in. I think Sarah just has a personality that's very enthusiatic and supportive, and that might be obnoxious (if well meaning) to someone who just got eliminated.
BTW also really glad with the way Jonna left this season. She just seems awesome, and based on her post-show interviews and twitter/instagram, she seems to be doing well
Zach is who i thought he was. He got lucky to be on the team he was on his first show, where Frank ran politics and he coudl be the tough looking guy with muscles who just intimidated people he knew he could. He has 1 really solid girl too who could run for days and just an overall stacked team by comparison. Than the vets came and he became a completley different character being more of the light hearted goofball with jokes. Than things got tough and he started showing how bad of a sport and person he truly is when things get hard. He has basically been doing that ever since he was dq'ed on rivals 2.
He is a horrible teammate(jonna, sam, etc), a horrible leader(jonna), and not even very good at things he shoudl be good at with his size. He doesn't seem that athletic etiher like i don't see him doing things like showing crazy jumping ability like for instance CT showed on that frog jumping mission on duel 1. I mean i want to see him head to head in something physical with someone close to his size and see how he does, hoenstly i am not even sure abotu his strength or his ability to push himself to another gear. He obviosuly is a big baby, a poor sport, and treats women terribly and like objects. He always was patting himself on the back for making out and hooking up with these girls, but man he truly seems like a guy with serious serious issues.
This edit this season is hilariously over the top. Either he was worse than this and we only see a franction of how bad he was to Jonna, or he only was a **** sometimes and jonna got the feel bad for me edit and he got the bad guy edit. i really think this accurate though how bad he was to jonna. he never seemed the least bit sorry or remorseful for anything he said or did to her this season. We also know he talked tons of crap abotu her behind her back. so that makes it worse really.
If you ever need cheering up Jonna, just watch him cry on the free agents finale and make odd baby noises ***oon as things got a litlte hard for him. That seems to be a nice summary of Zach overall too.
He would get his *** whooped. Ever since Seasons 2, Zach has always come across as a big soft but bratty child, but like you said because of his size he got away with a lot. Alton wasn't scared of him though, he failed trying to intimidate him.
haha yea. i think in the end it boils down to why root for him to win? He is a horrible winner(talking about how awesome he is and putting down everyone else on twitter etc) and loser(throwing fits, throwing his helmet, finger pointing,*****ing, moaning). He just isn't someone to root for.
Although at this point i dont even want to try to mention him and CT like they are comparable, but CT showed awesome athleticism against other top tier guys on different shows. When has Zach wowed anyone in missions really or shown that he is an athletic freak for his size etc. i think he just is huge, that's it, nothing more, nothing less. CT is a big guy but crazy athletic for his size.
While I do agree Zach is a baby & is an *** 100% of the time. Let's not get carried away by saying dumb stuff like Zach isn't an athlete or isn't athletic. He was the fastest guy in the Rampage mission on Free Agents when he was partners with CT & that was before he came in more lean on Battle of the Exes 2. Zach's biggest problem in eliminations is he panics when he gets behind & doesn't do well under pressure. Not to mention he isn't very smart lol.
So are we agreed that Jonna killed that elimination? I think she did just as well as, if not better than, Sarah despite being considerably smaller.
And with regards to Jonna looking kind of peeved when Sarah hugged her... I don't think Jonna dislikes Sarah (they interact on social media sometimes) or that Sarah meant to rub it in. I think Sarah just has a personality that's very enthusiatic and supportive, and that might be obnoxious (if well meaning) to someone who just got eliminated.
BTW also really glad with the way Jonna left this season. She just seems awesome, and based on her post-show interviews and twitter/instagram, she seems to be doing well
she sort of kept up with sarah but it looks to me like sarah would have beat her at the end even if she didnt have the lead upon second viewing and careful observation of where they started and ended
So are we agreed that Jonna killed that elimination? I think she did just as well as, if not better than, Sarah despite being considerably smaller.
And with regards to Jonna looking kind of peeved when Sarah hugged her... I don't think Jonna dislikes Sarah (they interact on social media sometimes) or that Sarah meant to rub it in. I think Sarah just has a personality that's very enthusiatic and supportive, and that might be obnoxious (if well meaning) to someone who just got eliminated.
BTW also really glad with the way Jonna left this season. She just seems awesome, and based on her post-show interviews and twitter/instagram, she seems to be doing well
I agree 100%.
While it may have been a bit patronizing and ill-timed, Sarah was coming from a good place. She's a camp counsellor through and through. I can see how she can rub people the wrong way, but I enjoy her enthusiasm and eagerness.
Although the fact she calls them best buds 4eva makes me think they probably aren't offish dating and Jenna is just being a delusional idiot
jenna definitely strikes me as someone who thinks that they'll be the one to change an *******. Regardless of her friendship with Jonna I'm sure she thinks that the only reason Zach is so disrespectful to his previous gf's is because they weren't worthy of his respect, but she's different so obviously this time it's gonna work out.
Thats what annoyed me about Ashley's response to it too tbh, when she said "he respects me so he never spoke to me like that" or whatever, seems a lil smug. I don't get it I mean when he was talking about how men are superior to women like...he's talking about you too ash & Jenna lol even if you used to/are currently ******* him you aren't immune from "all women are inferior" come on now.
it is smug and completely delusiona. these girls(ashley and jenna) think theyre different and unique when they are as basic, superficial and vapid as you can get. all jenna and ashley know are modeling, instagram, , social media and sticking their butts out and making the rigt kissy faces in their photos to accrue at least 100 likes
if anyhting the type that zach was speaking horribly about were jenna/ashley k types
These lyrics from this song describe Zach & Jonna imo especially the beginning and the title. http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/cassadeepope/provedyouwrong.html
Jonna definitely deserves a prize for not quiting like a lot of girls probably would have if Zach was that awful to them.
it is smug and completely delusiona. these girls(ashley and jenna) think theyre different and unique when they are as basic, superficial and vapid as you can get. all jenna and ashley know are modeling, instagram, , social media and sticking their butts out and making the rigt kissy faces in their photos to accrue at least 100 likes
if anyhting the type that zach was speaking horribly about were jenna/ashley k types
Well damn, yikes. I think that's a bit much lol. I think it's ridiculous how they deal with the Zach situation and they aren't ******* Ivy League graduates or whatever but they certainly have worth beyond that. And I mean the very same could be said about Zach and a lot of the other (vapid and delusional lets be 100% real) men on this show too, they have many many photos where they're just flexing and showing off their ~sweet~ workout pics for 100 likes so..
i dont really care about school at all honestly since that definitely doesnt define a person. i just feel like ashley k, jenna are totally oblivious to whats going on around them and dont have much going on outside of themselves, getting attention, instagram and the gym...the last two being utilized as tools to accoplish the second item in the list. they remind me of walking, soulless automatons...just totally preditable and pointless. like discount bin kardashians. agree about the guys being no better. not big on all of the work that comes out of nany, avery, etc. but i prefer watching them over the other two
i dont really care about school at all honestly since that definitely doesnt define a person. i just feel like ashley k, jenna are totally oblivious to whats going on around them and dont have much going on outside of themselves, getting attention, instagram and the gym...the last two being utilized as tools to accoplish the second item in the list. they remind me of walking, soulless automatons...just totally preditable and pointless. like discount bin kardashians. agree about the guys being no better. not big on all of the work that comes out of nany, avery, etc. but i prefer watching them over the other two
i dont really care about school at all honestly since that definitely doesnt define a person. i just feel like ashley k, jenna are totally oblivious to whats going on around them and dont have much going on outside of themselves, getting attention, instagram and the gym...the last two being utilized as tools to accoplish the second item in the list. they remind me of walking, soulless automatons...just totally preditable and pointless. like discount bin kardashians. agree about the guys being no better. not big on all of the work that comes out of nany, avery, etc. but i prefer watching them over the other two
Yeah I prefer watching them too but I guess I just don't think the other girls are that bad although "soulless automatons" made me lolirl. Ah well, agree to disagree!
i dont really care about school at all honestly since that definitely doesnt define a person. i just feel like ashley k, jenna are totally oblivious to whats going on around them and dont have much going on outside of themselves, getting attention, instagram and the gym...the last two being utilized as tools to accoplish the second item in the list. they remind me of walking, soulless automatons...just totally preditable and pointless. like discount bin kardashians. agree about the guys being no better. not big on all of the work that comes out of nany, avery, etc. but i prefer watching them over the other two
Yea I feel you lol.. **** Devyn if she truly did say that. Which it seems like she would tbh
Devyn technically didn't say it. From what I remembered, it was either Big Easy or someone else that stated it on BOTS2. My thing is this, if we're going to get mad at Devyn with this, then we have to get mad at Jemmye as well with her statement of only dating black guys. I don't agree with it but to each their own
the only thing with that is Jemmye actually went out with Knight and in an interview she said Jordan Wisley was good-looking along with Leroy. if we're gonna get mad at her it should be for the reason that she was a hypocrite.
Zach is such an average performer. He has not impressed me in any of the eliminations he's been in, or the challenges for that matter. I mean look at him, he should be wiping the floor with everyone there. He reminds me of the NBA players who possess all the physical ability in the world, but turn out to be busts. No idea why people fear facing him. I don't think he'd win any of the eliminations from this season against the good teams.
you clearly didn't see his performance on Free Agents.
and in that Breaking Up (the one where Adam creamed Knight and Jemmye) eliminaiton im pretty sure he would beat anyone. and he'd do good in the Banded Together dome elimination. also he could beat anyone in the Strung Out eliminaiton except for Roylee and CT perhaps.
Zach may not be the most athletic palyer but he is FAR from a bust or even average.
Zach is who i thought he was. He got lucky to be on the team he was on his first show, where Frank ran politics and he coudl be the tough looking guy with muscles who just intimidated people he knew he could. He has 1 really solid girl too who could run for days and just an overall stacked team by comparison. Than the vets came and he became a completley different character being more of the light hearted goofball with jokes. Than things got tough and he started showing how bad of a sport and person he truly is when things get hard. He has basically been doing that ever since he was dq'ed on rivals 2.
He is a horrible teammate(jonna, sam, etc), a horrible leader(jonna), and not even very good at things he shoudl be good at with his size. He doesn't seem that athletic etiher like i don't see him doing things like showing crazy jumping ability like for instance CT showed on that frog jumping mission on duel 1. I mean i want to see him head to head in something physical with someone close to his size and see how he does, hoenstly i am not even sure abotu his strength or his ability to push himself to another gear. He obviosuly is a big baby, a poor sport, and treats women terribly and like objects. He always was patting himself on the back for making out and hooking up with these girls, but man he truly seems like a guy with serious serious issues.
This edit this season is hilariously over the top. Either he was worse than this and we only see a franction of how bad he was to Jonna, or he only was a **** sometimes and jonna got the feel bad for me edit and he got the bad guy edit. i really think this accurate though how bad he was to jonna. he never seemed the least bit sorry or remorseful for anything he said or did to her this season. We also know he talked tons of crap abotu her behind her back. so that makes it worse really.
If you ever need cheering up Jonna, just watch him cry on the free agents finale and make odd baby noises ***oon as things got a litlte hard for him. That seems to be a nice summary of Zach overall too.
He would get his *** whooped. Ever since Seasons 2, Zach has always come across as a big soft but bratty child, but like you said because of his size he got away with a lot. Alton wasn't scared of him though, he failed trying to intimidate him.
haha yea. i think in the end it boils down to why root for him to win? He is a horrible winner(talking about how awesome he is and putting down everyone else on twitter etc) and loser(throwing fits, throwing his helmet, finger pointing,*****ing, moaning). He just isn't someone to root for.
Although at this point i dont even want to try to mention him and CT like they are comparable, but CT showed awesome athleticism against other top tier guys on different shows. When has Zach wowed anyone in missions really or shown that he is an athletic freak for his size etc. i think he just is huge, that's it, nothing more, nothing less. CT is a big guy but crazy athletic for his size.
While I do agree Zach is a baby & is an *** 100% of the time. Let's not get carried away by saying dumb stuff like Zach isn't an athlete or isn't athletic. He was the fastest guy in the Rampage mission on Free Agents when he was partners with CT & that was before he came in more lean on Battle of the Exes 2. Zach's biggest problem in eliminations is he panics when he gets behind & doesn't do well under pressure. Not to mention he isn't very smart lol.
I think we pretty much agree on all ends, but i didnt mean he wasn' t athletic i meant like he really hasn't shown much of it. I mean of course he is athletic he played football as a WR, so unless he was awful at it, he has to be, but even some really huge buff guys sometimes are like statues where they dont' have that great of movement/atlheticism and that hurts them in comparison to some freak athletes. my point was that he hasn't done anything to show he is some ridiculous athletic guy for his size. You woudlnt think people as big as CT and him woudl be that agile or be able to jump extremely well, so CT on duel 1 doing that frog jump without even diving just flat jumping was extremely impressive. Zach hasn't shown anything like that in any mission where you are like wow this guy is an atheltic freak.
My whole point was Zach basiclaly has been a big strong guy on the show, not much else that i can think to say he has done well. He hasn't shown athletic feets of a guy he is/was compared to in CT when right from the get go i just didnt see them as a comparison.
He has a ton of flaws, and only in a perfect calm situation when he is frontrunning or facing a very litlte guy will zach have confidence and show his truly ability. but how often do both those things happen for him to do that? He's such a fragile mess. If he starts off the tiniest behind, he will panic so than he will not show us what he really has. He also is a terrible teammate, and an awful leader if he is put in that role. He doesn't understand how to encourage anyone he only is good at finger pointing and insulting anyone who he feels is less than him. Usually people don't root for the bigger guy/strongest guy becuase he h***uch an advantage, but CT i guess is the exception. with Zach, he is such a cocky egotistical ***, it's like how can you root for the guy? After he won seasons 2 he was talking so much trash he prob thought he was goign to win 5 of his first 6 when he started. i mean most rookies who win prob would be cocky too, but he just sounded so arrogant in his interviews it was hard to root for him, and it's getting harder and harder each season.
He really didn't wow me on that rampage though or show some crazy athletic feat like my example(s) for ct..
Although the fact she calls them best buds 4eva makes me think they probably aren't offish dating and Jenna is just being a delusional idiot
jenna definitely strikes me as someone who thinks that they'll be the one to change an *******. Regardless of her friendship with Jonna I'm sure she thinks that the only reason Zach is so disrespectful to his previous gf's is because they weren't worthy of his respect, but she's different so obviously this time it's gonna work out.
Thats what annoyed me about Ashley's response to it too tbh, when she said "he respects me so he never spoke to me like that" or whatever, seems a lil smug. I don't get it I mean when he was talking about how men are superior to women like...he's talking about you too ash & Jenna lol even if you used to/are currently ******* him you aren't immune from "all women are inferior" come on now.
yeah I think Ashley came off as a little arrogant with the "well he respects me" attitude as if she thinks she's better than Jonna. What did Jonna ever do to Zach to not deserve respect? He even said on the Battle of the Seasons reunion that Jonna didn't so anything wrong and the breakup was all his fault.
Like Jonna said, Zach always likes to play the blame game. Devyn said on Afterbuzz that on the finale Zach had a pattern of not doing well and consistently blaming his female partners acting like it was their fault. They probably didn't even air most of it.
and if Zach and Jenna broke up and became partners, he will do the same thing to her whenever they don't win something.
Although the fact she calls them best buds 4eva makes me think they probably aren't offish dating and Jenna is just being a delusional idiot
jenna definitely strikes me as someone who thinks that they'll be the one to change an *******. Regardless of her friendship with Jonna I'm sure she thinks that the only reason Zach is so disrespectful to his previous gf's is because they weren't worthy of his respect, but she's different so obviously this time it's gonna work out.
Thats what annoyed me about Ashley's response to it too tbh, when she said "he respects me so he never spoke to me like that" or whatever, seems a lil smug. I don't get it I mean when he was talking about how men are superior to women like...he's talking about you too ash & Jenna lol even if you used to/are currently ******* him you aren't immune from "all women are inferior" come on now.
Jenna actually acknowledged that word for word on the Explosions reunion. She thought she could change Jay. And she's gonna have even less luck with someone like Zach.
Am I the only one who thinks he was massively spoiled while growing up?
yeah I think Ashley came off as a little arrogant with the "well he respects me" attitude as if she thinks she's better than Jonna. What did Jonna ever do to Zach to not deserve respect? He even said on the Battle of the Seasons reunion that Jonna didn't so anything wrong and the breakup was all his fault.
Like Jonna said, Zach always likes to play the blame game. Devyn said on Afterbuzz that on the finale Zach had a pattern of not doing well and consistently blaming his female partners acting like it was their fault. They probably didn't even air most of it.
and if Zach and Jenna broke up and became partners, he will do the same thing to her whenever they don't win something.
true, and Zach didn't respect her either, just bc he didn't say it to her face doesn't mean he saw Ashley on a different light, he still talk shit behind her back so, it's pretty much the same attitude towards all his ex gf.
Although the fact she calls them best buds 4eva makes me think they probably aren't offish dating and Jenna is just being a delusional idiot
jenna definitely strikes me as someone who thinks that they'll be the one to change an *******. Regardless of her friendship with Jonna I'm sure she thinks that the only reason Zach is so disrespectful to his previous gf's is because they weren't worthy of his respect, but she's different so obviously this time it's gonna work out.
Thats what annoyed me about Ashley's response to it too tbh, when she said "he respects me so he never spoke to me like that" or whatever, seems a lil smug. I don't get it I mean when he was talking about how men are superior to women like...he's talking about you too ash & Jenna lol even if you used to/are currently ******* him you aren't immune from "all women are inferior" come on now.
Jenna actually acknowledged that word for word on the Explosions reunion. She thought she could change Jay. And she's gonna have even less luck with someone like Zach.
Am I the only one who thinks he was massively spoiled while growing up?
He probably was spoiled while growing up. It would explain alot.
Yeah so where exactly IS this Jonna? I didn't care to watch all of Rivals 1 but she did act a lot differently. I hope it wasn't Zach that "took" this away from her.
Yeah so where exactly IS this Jonna? I didn't care to watch all of Rivals 1 but she did act a lot differently. I hope it wasn't Zach that "took" this away from her.
I loved Jonna on Rivals. She was very straight forward with people during that season. I remember during her fight with Camila, Jonna said "Camila! I'm going here, Camila, if you want to speak with me!" and went away from everyone haha I wish we saw more of her feisty side. It's a shame Zach took her confidence away for awhile but at least she got it back in Exes II.
Zach definitely took away her confidence. On Rivals2/FA/Exes2 she was really quiet and non confrontational but that isn't who she was on Rivals or Cancun. I hope after this season she got the closure to move on and gained her confidence back especially after all the support she has gotten.
Zach definitely took away her confidence. On Rivals2/FA/Exes2 she was really quiet and non confrontational but that isn't who she was on Rivals or Cancun. I hope after this season she got the closure to move on and gained her confidence back especially after all the support she has gotten.
I feel like it was a combination of both Zach and the fans reaction towards her after seasons 2. I feel like after this season, if she comes back she will have more confident judging by the amount of love she is getting. Her following have increase a lot judging by social networks
Zach definitely took away her confidence. On Rivals2/FA/Exes2 she was really quiet and non confrontational but that isn't who she was on Rivals or Cancun. I hope after this season she got the closure to move on and gained her confidence back especially after all the support she has gotten.
I feel like it was a combination of both Zach and the fans reaction towards her after seasons 2. I feel like after this season, if she comes back she will have more confident judging by the amount of love she is getting. Her following have increase a lot judging by social networks
Didn't she also went through a lot of private shit in her life prior Seasons 2 and Rivals2 ? No money, homeless, many people turned their back on her ?
Zach definitely took away her confidence. On Rivals2/FA/Exes2 she was really quiet and non confrontational but that isn't who she was on Rivals or Cancun. I hope after this season she got the closure to move on and gained her confidence back especially after all the support she has gotten.
I feel like it was a combination of both Zach and the fans reaction towards her after seasons 2. I feel like after this season, if she comes back she will have more confident judging by the amount of love she is getting. Her following have increase a lot judging by social networks
Didn't she also went through a lot of private shit in her life prior Seasons 2 and Rivals2 ? No money, homeless, many people turned their back on her ?
Yeah, that too. I think that was between Rivals and seasons 2. She put her life together after seasons 2, but Zach left her in a bad place after they both moved to LA.
Yeah I remember she said if Frank wasn't there for her with the breakup with Zach and everything then she would have lost her mind. I think she is finally in a good place or that is what it seems at least.
Zach definitely took away her confidence. On Rivals2/FA/Exes2 she was really quiet and non confrontational but that isn't who she was on Rivals or Cancun. I hope after this season she got the closure to move on and gained her confidence back especially after all the support she has gotten.
I feel like it was a combination of both Zach and the fans reaction towards her after seasons 2. I feel like after this season, if she comes back she will have more confident judging by the amount of love she is getting. Her following have increase a lot judging by social networks
Thats good to hear I'm always curious about whos social media followers increased after a season and I'm not suprised hers did by a lot since this is the first time she is a focal part of a season.
Yeah so where exactly IS this Jonna? I didn't care to watch all of Rivals 1 but she did act a lot differently. I hope it wasn't Zach that "took" this away from her.
GRAPHIK YOU HAVEN'T SEEN RIVALS 1? OMG JONNA WAS AMAZING ON THAT SEASON. AND JASMINE WAS AS WELL. I promise you would LOVE them if you watched it. You have to at least watch up until their elimination.
Although the fact she calls them best buds 4eva makes me think they probably aren't offish dating and Jenna is just being a delusional idiot
So are we agreed that Jonna killed that elimination? I think she did just as well as, if not better than, Sarah despite being considerably smaller.
And with regards to Jonna looking kind of peeved when Sarah hugged her... I don't think Jonna dislikes Sarah (they interact on social media sometimes) or that Sarah meant to rub it in. I think Sarah just has a personality that's very enthusiatic and supportive, and that might be obnoxious (if well meaning) to someone who just got eliminated.
BTW also really glad with the way Jonna left this season. She just seems awesome, and based on her post-show interviews and twitter/instagram, she seems to be doing well
While I do agree Zach is a baby & is an *** 100% of the time. Let's not get carried away by saying dumb stuff like Zach isn't an athlete or isn't athletic. He was the fastest guy in the Rampage mission on Free Agents when he was partners with CT & that was before he came in more lean on Battle of the Exes 2. Zach's biggest problem in eliminations is he panics when he gets behind & doesn't do well under pressure. Not to mention he isn't very smart lol.
she sort of kept up with sarah but it looks to me like sarah would have beat her at the end even if she didnt have the lead upon second viewing and careful observation of where they started and ended
did just as well as? maybe...better than? no way
I agree 100%.
While it may have been a bit patronizing and ill-timed, Sarah was coming from a good place. She's a camp counsellor through and through. I can see how she can rub people the wrong way, but I enjoy her enthusiasm and eagerness.
jenna definitely strikes me as someone who thinks that they'll be the one to change an *******. Regardless of her friendship with Jonna I'm sure she thinks that the only reason Zach is so disrespectful to his previous gf's is because they weren't worthy of his respect, but she's different so obviously this time it's gonna work out.
Thats what annoyed me about Ashley's response to it too tbh, when she said "he respects me so he never spoke to me like that" or whatever, seems a lil smug. I don't get it I mean when he was talking about how men are superior to women like...he's talking about you too ash & Jenna lol even if you used to/are currently ******* him you aren't immune from "all women are inferior" come on now.
it is smug and completely delusiona. these girls(ashley and jenna) think theyre different and unique when they are as basic, superficial and vapid as you can get. all jenna and ashley know are modeling, instagram, , social media and sticking their butts out and making the rigt kissy faces in their photos to accrue at least 100 likes
if anyhting the type that zach was speaking horribly about were jenna/ashley k types
These lyrics from this song describe Zach & Jonna imo especially the beginning and the title.
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/cassadeepope/provedyouwrong.html
Jonna definitely deserves a prize for not quiting like a lot of girls probably would have if Zach was that awful to them.
Well damn, yikes. I think that's a bit much lol. I think it's ridiculous how they deal with the Zach situation and they aren't ******* Ivy League graduates or whatever but they certainly have worth beyond that. And I mean the very same could be said about Zach and a lot of the other (vapid and delusional lets be 100% real) men on this show too, they have many many photos where they're just flexing and showing off their ~sweet~ workout pics for 100 likes so..
i dont really care about school at all honestly since that definitely doesnt define a person. i just feel like ashley k, jenna are totally oblivious to whats going on around them and dont have much going on outside of themselves, getting attention, instagram and the gym...the last two being utilized as tools to accoplish the second item in the list. they remind me of walking, soulless automatons...just totally preditable and pointless. like discount bin kardashians. agree about the guys being no better. not big on all of the work that comes out of nany, avery, etc. but i prefer watching them over the other two
I agree!
Yeah I prefer watching them too but I guess I just don't think the other girls are that bad although "soulless automatons" made me lolirl. Ah well, agree to disagree!
ha I agree.
the only thing with that is Jemmye actually went out with Knight and in an interview she said Jordan Wisley was good-looking along with Leroy. if we're gonna get mad at her it should be for the reason that she was a hypocrite.
you clearly didn't see his performance on Free Agents.
and in that Breaking Up (the one where Adam creamed Knight and Jemmye) eliminaiton im pretty sure he would beat anyone. and he'd do good in the Banded Together dome elimination. also he could beat anyone in the Strung Out eliminaiton except for Roylee and CT perhaps.
Zach may not be the most athletic palyer but he is FAR from a bust or even average.
I think we pretty much agree on all ends, but i didnt mean he wasn' t athletic i meant like he really hasn't shown much of it. I mean of course he is athletic he played football as a WR, so unless he was awful at it, he has to be, but even some really huge buff guys sometimes are like statues where they dont' have that great of movement/atlheticism and that hurts them in comparison to some freak athletes. my point was that he hasn't done anything to show he is some ridiculous athletic guy for his size. You woudlnt think people as big as CT and him woudl be that agile or be able to jump extremely well, so CT on duel 1 doing that frog jump without even diving just flat jumping was extremely impressive. Zach hasn't shown anything like that in any mission where you are like wow this guy is an atheltic freak.
My whole point was Zach basiclaly has been a big strong guy on the show, not much else that i can think to say he has done well. He hasn't shown athletic feets of a guy he is/was compared to in CT when right from the get go i just didnt see them as a comparison.
He has a ton of flaws, and only in a perfect calm situation when he is frontrunning or facing a very litlte guy will zach have confidence and show his truly ability. but how often do both those things happen for him to do that? He's such a fragile mess. If he starts off the tiniest behind, he will panic so than he will not show us what he really has. He also is a terrible teammate, and an awful leader if he is put in that role. He doesn't understand how to encourage anyone he only is good at finger pointing and insulting anyone who he feels is less than him. Usually people don't root for the bigger guy/strongest guy becuase he h***uch an advantage, but CT i guess is the exception. with Zach, he is such a cocky egotistical ***, it's like how can you root for the guy? After he won seasons 2 he was talking so much trash he prob thought he was goign to win 5 of his first 6 when he started. i mean most rookies who win prob would be cocky too, but he just sounded so arrogant in his interviews it was hard to root for him, and it's getting harder and harder each season.
He really didn't wow me on that rampage though or show some crazy athletic feat like my example(s) for ct..
yeah I think Ashley came off as a little arrogant with the "well he respects me" attitude as if she thinks she's better than Jonna. What did Jonna ever do to Zach to not deserve respect? He even said on the Battle of the Seasons reunion that Jonna didn't so anything wrong and the breakup was all his fault.
Like Jonna said, Zach always likes to play the blame game. Devyn said on Afterbuzz that on the finale Zach had a pattern of not doing well and consistently blaming his female partners acting like it was their fault. They probably didn't even air most of it.
and if Zach and Jenna broke up and became partners, he will do the same thing to her whenever they don't win something.
Jenna actually acknowledged that word for word on the Explosions reunion. She thought she could change Jay. And she's gonna have even less luck with someone like Zach.
Am I the only one who thinks he was massively spoiled while growing up?
I don't forsee Jenna and Zack staying together and making it work. Lol. But hey, who knows what the future has in store.
true, and Zach didn't respect her either, just bc he didn't say it to her face doesn't mean he saw Ashley on a different light, he still talk shit behind her back so, it's pretty much the same attitude towards all his ex gf.
He probably was spoiled while growing up. It would explain alot.
Yeah so where exactly IS this Jonna? I didn't care to watch all of Rivals 1 but she did act a lot differently. I hope it wasn't Zach that "took" this away from her.
Jasmine And Jonna
I loved Jonna on Rivals. She was very straight forward with people during that season. I remember during her fight with Camila, Jonna said "Camila! I'm going here, Camila, if you want to speak with me!" and went away from everyone haha I wish we saw more of her feisty side. It's a shame Zach took her confidence away for awhile but at least she got it back in Exes II.
Zach definitely took away her confidence. On Rivals2/FA/Exes2 she was really quiet and non confrontational but that isn't who she was on Rivals or Cancun. I hope after this season she got the closure to move on and gained her confidence back especially after all the support she has gotten.
I feel like it was a combination of both Zach and the fans reaction towards her after seasons 2. I feel like after this season, if she comes back she will have more confident judging by the amount of love she is getting. Her following have increase a lot judging by social networks
Didn't she also went through a lot of private shit in her life prior Seasons 2 and Rivals2 ? No money, homeless, many people turned their back on her ?
Yeah, that too. I think that was between Rivals and seasons 2. She put her life together after seasons 2, but Zach left her in a bad place after they both moved to LA.
Yeah I remember she said if Frank wasn't there for her with the breakup with Zach and everything then she would have lost her mind. I think she is finally in a good place or that is what it seems at least.
Thats good to hear I'm always curious about whos social media followers increased after a season and I'm not suprised hers did by a lot since this is the first time she is a focal part of a season.
GRAPHIK YOU HAVEN'T SEEN RIVALS 1? OMG JONNA WAS AMAZING ON THAT SEASON. AND JASMINE WAS AS WELL. I promise you would LOVE them if you watched it. You have to at least watch up until their elimination.
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