The Challenge: Unpopular Opinions

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I think overall Laurel is a better competitor. Laurel has proven to be good at everything and Emily has had some weaknesses (swimming the main one)

Laurel> Emily..... Laurel did great on every season and did not even train too hard... Emily only was really good on Rivals 2 and honestly I think Laurel would beat Emily in even physical elims.. I can see Emily winning in something with weight

Emily would take Laurel apart in something physical. I think we all missed the part where Evelyn beat Laurel in a wrestling match on Fresh Meat 2 and Evelyn is half her size. Evelyn is a tank but I'm pretty sure I've never seen her in the kind of shape Emily is in now. Laurel has natural size on all of the other girls there. I'm a big Laurel fan but if you shrunk her down to Cara Maria/Camila size, she wouldn't be the beast that she is now. So what if Emily has to train to get there...she's still gotten there. I'm not sure why we brush off hard work as if the time she had to put in makes her less impressive...I think it's more impressive that she cares that much to put the effort into her body. If you look a Laurel's body she has virtually no muscle and Emily is ripped.

 

All I know is that Kenny, who probably knows what kind of competitor Laurel is better than pretty much anyone, and spent the seasons after Fresh Meat 2 saying how amazing Laurel is said that Emily would take her and is a better athlete. I trust that opinion on this subject. 

Kenny's a Non-Castmember. What does he know?

I think Emily and Laurel are neck and neck.

 

Kenny's a Non-Castmember and not even relevant. What does he know?

I think Emily and Laurel are neck and neck.

 

Fixed.

Kenny's biased toward Laurel because of FM2...let's not ignore that.

How many challenges has Kenny done with Emily?

Kenny's a Non-Castmember. What does he know?

I think Emily and Laurel are neck and neck.

 

 

More than you, obviously. 

 

Kenny's biased toward Laurel because of FM2...let's not ignore that.

How many challenges has Kenny done with Emily?

 

Exactly...he's biased in favor of Laurel and still picked Emily. They never did a challenge together but they trained together for a while over the summer. 

There's nothing wrong with getting yourself a great body but Laurel doesn't even need to work out like she does and does just as well if not better, which is a testament to her skills. Hell even Camila is the same in that she's a natural athelete and Emily isn't. That's a cool opinion by Kenny but until Emily has shown what Laurel has aka performed as consistently well and taken out people like Camila Theresa Aneesa and Sarah in eliminations, I'll remain of the opinion that outside of something physical, Laurel would own Em.

I wouls say Emily is a natural athlete. Just not at the skill level of Laurel. And i want to see that wrestling match between Evelyn and Laurel now.

Emily is a physical brute. That's it.

Laurel is an all around superb athlete. The most well-rounded competitor this show has ever seen next to Evelyn (perhaps even surpassing Ev). She doesn't have to put forth hardly any effort to do so either. If Laurel trained like Emily did, she would snap her in two without breaking a sweat.

Laurel > Emily. Game over.

I'm taking Emily over Laurel any day.

i cant stand laurel but i would take her over emily as a partner as well. laurel is a much better swimmer than emily and far better at logic. from what i reember, emily only got the "puzzle" on rivals 2 because her mom was some kind of teacher or something for that specific suject. it was premeditated information that she acquired which is the only reason she got past that portion yet was never able to solve any of the other puzzles in the past that required raw thinking. basically i think laurel probably has a higher IQ than Emily.

its great that emily spends a lot of time in the gym beacuse its her career or she has a lot of time on her hands but if laurel has a busy life then it would stand to reason that she doesnt dedicate as much of her life to exercising or preparing for the challenges. raw resources and genetics are the most important and i dont think any of us can argue that laurel doesnt have more than emily. i think the fact that we are even amking this comparison reveals the type of genetic disaprity  between the two. you're comparing Emily, somebody that exercises for a living and neurotically keeps count of all her meals and calories, compared to a civillian that probably eats cheetohs and pounds coca colas all day long and puts a grand total of 30 minutes of thought per week into the topic of physical fitness.

 cara maria is a lot like emily in the sense that both need to direct tons of their time into training before a challenge. there is a lot of compensation work here which is okay, but IMO if oyu need to compensate then that clearly shows inferiority at the core.

the way Emily was thrown around by Laurel in Riot Shield was very Casey-esue. Yes I know this was before Emily trained but it just goes to show you how naturally dominant laurel is.

kenny is partial to emily because she's a cross fitter. Kenny is very biased for cross fit in general and thinks that this is the best way to produce physically capable people so it would make sense from his point of view that emily is better so idont think this is copletly objective.

I would take Emily as a partner every single day. Forget Evelyn, forget Laurel, forget Rachel. I'll take Emily.

I would take Emily as a partner every single day. Forget Evelyn, forget Laurel, forget Rachel. I'll take Emily.

hopefully it isn't something that involves swimming.

Swimming, Endurance, Mental and Puzzles = Laurel over Emily

Anything else = Emily over Laurel

Also, I think this was discussed already but if not, I'll start it

I'm not a fan of CT at all. It was cute with CT and Diem in the beginning, but honestly after Duel 2, he should have never been allowed to do other challenges. He always antagonizes small people (Issac {Duel 2}, Adam {Duel 2}) and gay people (Dan {Inferno 2}, Davis {Inferno 3}, Stephen {RW Reunion - this was a little justified but it wasn't his battle}). Honestly, it should have been 3 strikes your out (Inferno 3, Gauntlet 3 - pouring a beer is considered assault, and Duel 2). Also, the CT/Diem storyline was tiring and flops at the end. The only reason why he won Rivals 2 is because that final was simple (no hills and majority of the checkpoints were puzzles)

I'm team Laurel because it seems like she barely even tries sometimes and she still beast. I've never seen her have a weakness and even when she is part of the drama she still shows no weakness. I think the only thing Emily could beat Laurel in is if the elimination round is picking up a barbell and then doing some pullups other than that Laurel would probably beat her in 99% of things. 

Swimming, Endurance, Mental and Puzzles = Laurel over Emily

Anything else = Emily over Laurel

the funny thing is that those four things proably make up about 80% of the challenge lol

Emily >>Laurel & I would always pick Emily over her. Emily has turned into a truck since Cutthroat.

 

Emily >>Laurel & I would always pick Emily over her. Emily has turned into a truck man since Cutthroat.

Also, I think this was discussed already but if not, I'll start it

I'm not a fan of CT at all. It was cute with CT and Diem in the beginning, but honestly after Duel 2, he should have never been allowed to do other challenges. He always antagonizes small people (Issac {Duel 2}, Adam {Duel 2}) and gay people (Dan {Inferno 2}, Davis {Inferno 3}, Stephen {RW Reunion - this was a little justified but it wasn't his battle}). Honestly, it should have been 3 strikes your out (Inferno 3, Gauntlet 3 - pouring a beer is considered assault, and Duel 2). Also, the CT/Diem storyline was tiring and flops at the end. The only reason why he won Rivals 2 is because that final was simple (no hills and majority of the checkpoints were puzzles)

That doesn't seem fair to me. I agree with the CT and Diem thing, because that really was drawn out and annoying, mostly on Diem's part when it seemed that CT wanted her and Diem wanted nothing to do with him. It was just a constant one sided thing that bugged the **** out of me. However, when it comes to not allowing CT on the challenge, I'm definitely going to argue against it. All those seasons you mentioned were long ago (at least to me), and today, I find that CT has really changed from that bully persona. I couldn't stand the guy on the first Rivals, but after that he seemed to have turned himself around.

Also, enlighten me on the Stephen and Dan thing. What happened there?

Emily >>Laurel & I would always pick Emily over her. Emily has turned into a truck since Cutthroat.

 

Emily = WWE's Chyna

Honestly I would pick Laurel because I know if I made her lose she would literally kill me. The fear of her would make me perform great.

Plus Emily is beyond annoying. 

I wouldn't want either. I'd want Jenny so I could motorboat those breasts all day.

Also, I think this was discussed already but if not, I'll start it

I'm not a fan of CT at all. It was cute with CT and Diem in the beginning, but honestly after Duel 2, he should have never been allowed to do other challenges. He always antagonizes small people (Issac {Duel 2}, Adam {Duel 2}) and gay people (Dan {Inferno 2}, Davis {Inferno 3}, Stephen {RW Reunion - this was a little justified but it wasn't his battle}). Honestly, it should have been 3 strikes your out (Inferno 3, Gauntlet 3 - pouring a beer is considered assault, and Duel 2). Also, the CT/Diem storyline was tiring and flops at the end. The only reason why he won Rivals 2 is because that final was simple (no hills and majority of the checkpoints were puzzles)

That doesn't seem fair to me. I agree with the CT and Diem thing, because that really was drawn out and annoying, mostly on Diem's part when it seemed that CT wanted her and Diem wanted nothing to do with him. It was just a constant one sided thing that bugged the **** out of me. However, when it comes to not allowing CT on the challenge, I'm definitely going to argue against it. All those seasons you mentioned were long ago (at least to me), and today, I find that CT has really changed from that bully persona. I couldn't stand the guy on the first Rivals, but after that he seemed to have turned himself around.

Also, enlighten me on the Stephen and Dan thing. What happened there?

 

The dan thing was he got mad that dan was going to try to "save himself" and not think about the team during a team mission on i think I2? one of the infernos, so he yelled at dan and did like a head fake at him like he did to Adam on D2  that started their arguing if you don' tknow what i mean. Than Abram said like come on man, relax and he backed off. it wasn't really much at all. I dont' consider that much of anything honestly he was just mad it was towards the end and he didn't want dan to be shady to save himself. It was during that dig your grave challenge where it showed Shavonda jokingly mimiking them.

 

Despite Exes, i don't think ct has bad endurance either. I think pacing was the issue. Half of endurance is smart pacing i mean even the best can't keep up a rediculous pace the whole time, it's near impossible.  He has been fine on every other final, and i think he just wanted to win/impress diem so bad he didint' think it through and got over pumped up and never really thought logically how long it was. I mean he hasn't been in one in a while he just didn't realize or plan smart that it was very long and he played it like a short final.

 He thought he was invincible and if JOhnny can do it so he can type of thing which johnny would never have not paced himself, so it was flawed logic. Emily didn't beast exes final to me really, she had TY who was gassed immediatley so they went at a snails pace the whole time. I mean it's impressive she idd all the work though. But Emily has really not been tested much with her endurance or how she woudl hold up.. On rivals 2, even if their were hills and stuff, i am nto sure johnny would have been able to do it, or wes. CT would have been fine IMO. Johnny was at his worst endurance shape probably on rivals 2 and already gassed on the ramp part. So it would have been interesting.

I wouldn't want either. I'd want Jenny so I could motorboat those breasts all day.

I don't find not trying and being successful as an attractive quality in a partner.  I want my partner to be ready to go all out at any given time.

Also, I think this was discussed already but if not, I'll start it

I'm not a fan of CT at all. It was cute with CT and Diem in the beginning, but honestly after Duel 2, he should have never been allowed to do other challenges. He always antagonizes small people (Issac {Duel 2}, Adam {Duel 2}) and gay people (Dan {Inferno 2}, Davis {Inferno 3}, Stephen {RW Reunion - this was a little justified but it wasn't his battle}). Honestly, it should have been 3 strikes your out (Inferno 3, Gauntlet 3 - pouring a beer is considered assault, and Duel 2). Also, the CT/Diem storyline was tiring and flops at the end. The only reason why he won Rivals 2 is because that final was simple (no hills and majority of the checkpoints were puzzles)

without ct the challenge would have been cancelled, allowing ct to comeback was the best thing bmp could do for the franchise.

Also, I think this was discussed already but if not, I'll start it

I'm not a fan of CT at all. It was cute with CT and Diem in the beginning, but honestly after Duel 2, he should have never been allowed to do other challenges. He always antagonizes small people (Issac {Duel 2}, Adam {Duel 2}) and gay people (Dan {Inferno 2}, Davis {Inferno 3}, Stephen {RW Reunion - this was a little justified but it wasn't his battle}). Honestly, it should have been 3 strikes your out (Inferno 3, Gauntlet 3 - pouring a beer is considered assault, and Duel 2). Also, the CT/Diem storyline was tiring and flops at the end. The only reason why he won Rivals 2 is because that final was simple (no hills and majority of the checkpoints were puzzles)

without ct the challenge would have been cancelled, allowing ct to comeback was the best thing bmp could do for the franchise.

Sums up everything that has been wrong with the show & probably would've been better off getting cancelled.

Also, I think this was discussed already but if not, I'll start it

I'm not a fan of CT at all. It was cute with CT and Diem in the beginning, but honestly after Duel 2, he should have never been allowed to do other challenges. He always antagonizes small people (Issac {Duel 2}, Adam {Duel 2}) and gay people (Dan {Inferno 2}, Davis {Inferno 3}, Stephen {RW Reunion - this was a little justified but it wasn't his battle}). Honestly, it should have been 3 strikes your out (Inferno 3, Gauntlet 3 - pouring a beer is considered assault, and Duel 2). Also, the CT/Diem storyline was tiring and flops at the end. The only reason why he won Rivals 2 is because that final was simple (no hills and majority of the checkpoints were puzzles)


Seriously pouring beer is assault ? Smh people are such whimps now

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