The Challenge: Power Rankings

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Well For the guys, I had the top 5 set and then just had weaven in the rest and I really thought Camila was Overrated that season

Reasons for Camila:

Challenge 1: Did good but so did the rest of the girls on her team

Challenge 2: Sat Out

Challenge 3: Made the jump but needed lots of help, Tori was the only female to make it no problem

Challenge 4: Did good but kept up with Melinda, who she should be far past

Challenge 5: Fell off, swam pretty slow

Challenge 6: Didn't participate, Jumped off ring

Challenge 7: Made across, did good here

 

Elimination 1: Kicked Emilee's *** but Emilee is not strong

Elimination 5: Won but Katie is also only good at like wrestling type elims.. not pushing

Elimination 7: Lost but I can't discredit her here, went up against the best female there and almost won

Why on earth is Emily second, Jenn out performed her in pretty much every mission.

 

Agree. I think the argument can be made that Jenn was the best girl there. I'd give a slight edge to Laurel but I would definitely rank Jenn over every other girl. 


Laurel did a little better but Jenn is easily number 2 IMO. There was a reason nobody thought for a second to vote in Jenn, people think because she "skates to the end" but its because she was the strongest girl on her team.
I really wish Jenn would come back especially now that she's in amazing shape.

Well For the guys, I had the top 5 set and then just had weaven in the rest and I really thought Camila was Overrated that season

Reasons for Camila:

Challenge 1: Did good but so did the rest of the girls on her team

Challenge 2: Sat Out

Challenge 3: Made the jump but needed lots of help, Tori was the only female to make it no problem

Challenge 4: Did good but kept up with Melinda, who she should be far past

Challenge 5: Fell off, swam pretty slow

Challenge 6: Didn't participate, Jumped off ring

Challenge 7: Made across, did good here

 

Elimination 1: Kicked Emilee's *** but Emilee is not strong

Elimination 5: Won but Katie is also only good at like wrestling type elims.. not pushing

Elimination 7: Lost but I can't discredit her here, went up against the best female there and almost won

Why on earth is Emily second, Jenn out performed her in pretty much every mission.

 

Agree. I think the argument can be made that Jenn was the best girl there. I'd give a slight edge to Laurel but I would definitely rank Jenn over every other girl. 

Laurel did a little better but Jenn is easily number 2 IMO. There was a reason nobody thought for a second to vote in Jenn, people think because she "skates to the end" but its because she was the strongest girl on her team. I really wish Jenn would come back especially now that she's in amazing shape.

I think that's fair in her earlier seasons, but yeah she got a lot better aroundCutthroat/Rivals. I'd say Laurel was without a doubt the top girl for Cutthroat though, Jenn in second, Sarah third, and Camila fourth.  This season had a lot of decent to good competitors for the females.

Cutthroat had one of the better female casts in recent memory, at least athletically. Tori and Paula underperformed and Sarah messed up the final but Laurel, Jenn, Emily, Sarah, Tori, Paula, Camila, Cara, Theresa and maybe Mandi are all above average or better athletes. Ayiiia and Melinda are ok, Katie and Shauvon are bad and Emilee is perfect and I won't hear otherwise. Overall good bunch. 

Too bad every challenge isn't like the first Battle of the Sexes--the scoreboard let you know exactly who performed well and who didn't.

Too bad every challenge isn't like the first Battle of the Sexes--the scoreboard let you know exactly who performed well and who didn't.

They need to incorporate it into a future season. Want to talk a big game? Back it up on the playing field.

Too bad every challenge isn't like the first Battle of the Sexes--the scoreboard let you know exactly who performed well and who didn't.

They need to incorporate it into a future season. Want to talk a big game? Back it up on the playing field.

Too bad every challenge isn't like the first Battle of the Sexes--the scoreboard let you know exactly who performed well and who didn't.

They need to incorporate it into a future season. Want to talk a big game? Back it up on the playing field.

This is how I want a Duel to be run...there's a scoreboard.  If you're at the bottom you're going in.  If you're at the top you're picking someone to face that person at the bottom.  When you consistently perform well you deserve power and when you consistently fail you should have to fight to stay in the game.  Politics would still be huge.  There's risk and reward when you send someone in when you're at the top. 

Too bad every challenge isn't like the first Battle of the Sexes--the scoreboard let you know exactly who performed well and who didn't.

They need to incorporate it into a future season. Want to talk a big game? Back it up on the playing field.

This is how I want a Duel to be run...there's a scoreboard.  If you're at the bottom you're going in.  If you're at the top you're picking someone to face that person at the bottom.  When you consistently perform well you deserve power and when you consistently fail you should have to fight to stay in the game.  Politics would still be huge.  There's risk and reward when you send someone in when you're at the top. 


That's a amazing idea, that way people like Devyn can't just make the final because everyone wantes to face a weak person.

laurel, jenn, sarah, camila are top four for cutthroat. i would put Camila BEFORE sarah though because sarah flopped the final and cried like a baby while being sent to the hospital  in the second missoin. camila didnt perform in that mission because she was forced to sit out but i cant envisage camila crying like that because of some boo boo. you can easily make an argument for one over the other though i think laurel/jenn/camila are more tightly contested.

Well For the guys, I had the top 5 set and then just had weaven in the rest and I really thought Camila was Overrated that season

Reasons for Camila:

Challenge 1: Did good but so did the rest of the girls on her team

Challenge 2: Sat Out

Challenge 3: Made the jump but needed lots of help, Tori was the only female to make it no problem

Challenge 4: Did good but kept up with Melinda, who she should be far past

Challenge 5: Fell off, swam pretty slow

Challenge 6: Didn't participate, Jumped off ring

Challenge 7: Made across, did good here

 

Elimination 1: Kicked Emilee's *** but Emilee is not strong

Elimination 5: Won but Katie is also only good at like wrestling type elims.. not pushing

Elimination 7: Lost but I can't discredit her here, went up against the best female there and almost won

challenge 1: she and dunbar beat their heat by a long shot. red team got such a huge advantage in the beginining beacuse of the head start given by dunbar and camila

challenge 3: if you watch her knee and body closely you will see that camila clears the jump rather definitevely without any ***istance from her teammates

challenge 4: paula, melinda and camila finished before everyone else on red

challenge 5: she made it to the bell before tori

the only performance that was even remotely questionable was her surfs up performance and even in that one she outswam tori

her eliminations also demonstrated impressive ability.

katie and camila are about the same size but the manner in which camila pushed back katie made it seem as if there were a significant difference in weight in favor of camila. even katie was thoroughly astonished by how much horizontal pushing force camila had because she expected a close battle based off of their similar sizes.

she narrowly lost to laurel. people will say that the elimination round was fixed towards camila bt that's not true because the dice was a FIXED weight that both of them had to manipulate. laurel's big *** has much more weight to help her rotate the dice. laurel said that her legs were worked out...imagine how tired camila and her miniature alligator legs felt considering that she had much less body weight to make each movement. camila was basically a baby dung beetle moving an exceptionally large square shaped boulder of excrement compared to laurel.  every single cuthtroat elimination favored the bigger person except the swatting one.

Haha thanks for that V123. You've always had the better memory of these stats.

The Ruins Rankings:

Female:

1) Susie

2) Kellyanne

3) Sarah

4) Kimberly

5) Evelyn

6) Diem

7) Tonya

8. Veronica

9) Johanna

10) Katie

11) Ibis

12) Brianna

13) Casey

14) Shavoun

 

Guys:

1) Darrell

2) Cohutta

3) Derrick

4) Evan

5) Johnny

6) Kenny

7) Brad

8. Dunbar

9) Wes

10) Syrus

11) Adam

12) Danny

13) Nick Brown

14) Chet

 

 

The Ruins Rankings:

Female:

1) Susie

2) Kellyanne

3) Sarah

4) Kimberly

5) Evelyn

6) Diem

7) Tonya

8. Veronica

9) Johanna

10) Katie

11) Ibis

12) Brianna

13) Casey

14) Shavoun

 

Guys:

1) Darrell

2) Cohutta

3) Derrick

4) Evan

5) Johnny

6) Kenny

7) Brad

8. Dunbar

9) Wes

10) Syrus

11) Adam

12) Danny

13) Nick Brown

14) Chet

lol

I would say top 3 from battle of the exes would be Emily, Rachel, and Camila/Diem and Bananas, CT, Abram

Did Rachel and Abe have really strong performances? From what I remember their partners held them back. I'd put Bananas and Camila as the best for Exes.

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end

Eh...I'm a Banana fan but I'm not sure that I agree with that. Johnny's gotten lucky in that the two winning partners that he's had (Tyler and Camila) have bought into his authority without much resistance. Even Frank, to some extent, took a backseat in that he just accepted that he was rolling with the Vet alliance rather than playing with people from "his" generation of Real World. They knew they had to show up, shut up, do what he said and perform and the rest would be taken care of. A lot of the other girls on Exes either would've had problems with fear (Diem, Paula, etc.) or taking orders (every girl besides probably Paula). I'm curious to see how Nany handles it this season as she is not one to just shut up and do as she's told, regardless of if it's in her best interest.*

 

*I also don't mean to say that it always has to be the guy in the power position. Jordan should treat this season the same way...show up, shut up, and be an athlete and let Sarah handle the rest...Ty also should've been that way on Exes with Emily and fallen in line but he couldn't. 

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end

Eh...I'm a Banana fan but I'm not sure that I agree with that. Johnny's gotten lucky in that the two winning partners that he's had (Tyler and Camila) have bought into his authority without much resistance. Even Frank, to some extent, took a backseat in that he just accepted that he was rolling with the Vet alliance rather than playing with people from "his" generation of Real World. They knew they had to show up, shut up, do what he said and perform and the rest would be taken care of. A lot of the other girls on Exes either would've had problems with fear (Diem, Paula, etc.) or taking orders (every girl besides probably Paula). I'm curious to see how Nany handles it this season as she is not one to just shut up and do as she's told, regardless of if it's in her best interest.*

 

*I also don't mean to say that it always has to be the guy in the power position. Jordan should treat this season the same way...show up, shut up, and be an athlete and let Sarah handle the rest...Ty also should've been that way on Exes with Emily and fallen in line but he couldn't. 

I don't know. I don't like the Idea of just doing whatever the partner tells you and just preform. They are a team and as a team both parties need to be able to make decisions together. Not just one cowtow to the other. Regardless of how good he or she may be at the game. It doesn't negate the other person's say.

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end

Eh...I'm a Banana fan but I'm not sure that I agree with that. Johnny's gotten lucky in that the two winning partners that he's had (Tyler and Camila) have bought into his authority without much resistance. Even Frank, to some extent, took a backseat in that he just accepted that he was rolling with the Vet alliance rather than playing with people from "his" generation of Real World. They knew they had to show up, shut up, do what he said and perform and the rest would be taken care of. A lot of the other girls on Exes either would've had problems with fear (Diem, Paula, etc.) or taking orders (every girl besides probably Paula). I'm curious to see how Nany handles it this season as she is not one to just shut up and do as she's told, regardless of if it's in her best interest.*

 

*I also don't mean to say that it always has to be the guy in the power position. Jordan should treat this season the same way...show up, shut up, and be an athlete and let Sarah handle the rest...Ty also should've been that way on Exes with Emily and fallen in line but he couldn't. 

I don't know. I don't like the Idea of just doing whatever the partner tells you and just preform. They are a team and as a team both parties need to be able to make decisions together. Not just one cowtow to the other. Regardless of how good he or she may be at the game. It doesn't negate the other person's say.

Uh...yeah it does. It may not be as extreme as this but what if Johnny were paired with say, Danny from Austin who has proven to suck at every aspect of the game, Danny's say is just as important? He shouldn't be a mute but Johnny's opinion is obviously a lot more valuable. That's how the real world works...when someone knows what they're doing and the other doesn't, the person who knows what they're doing is in charge. The other person should feel free to offer their opinion but when it's time to do the job they should defer. 

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end

Eh...I'm a Banana fan but I'm not sure that I agree with that. Johnny's gotten lucky in that the two winning partners that he's had (Tyler and Camila) have bought into his authority without much resistance. Even Frank, to some extent, took a backseat in that he just accepted that he was rolling with the Vet alliance rather than playing with people from "his" generation of Real World. They knew they had to show up, shut up, do what he said and perform and the rest would be taken care of. A lot of the other girls on Exes either would've had problems with fear (Diem, Paula, etc.) or taking orders (every girl besides probably Paula). I'm curious to see how Nany handles it this season as she is not one to just shut up and do as she's told, regardless of if it's in her best interest.*

 

*I also don't mean to say that it always has to be the guy in the power position. Jordan should treat this season the same way...show up, shut up, and be an athlete and let Sarah handle the rest...Ty also should've been that way on Exes with Emily and fallen in line but he couldn't. 

I don't know. I don't like the Idea of just doing whatever the partner tells you and just preform. They are a team and as a team both parties need to be able to make decisions together. Not just one cowtow to the other. Regardless of how good he or she may be at the game. It doesn't negate the other person's say.

Uh...yeah it does. It may not be as extreme as this but what if Johnny were paired with say, Danny from Austin who has proven to suck at every aspect of the game, Danny's say is just as important? He shouldn't be a mute but Johnny's opinion is obviously a lot more valuable. That's how the real world works...when someone knows what they're doing and the other doesn't, the person who knows what they're doing is in charge. The other person should feel free to offer their opinion but when it's time to do the job they should defer. 

Well I hate to break it to you but this isn't The Real World. This is Reality Television. And It really doesn't matter how bad the other person is. You don't tell that person to just shut the **** up and do what you say because what if that person doesn't like the Idea of that? They can just easily take their ball and go home. Therefore ******* the other person over and possibly getting sent home ala Tris****e on Rivals 2. Like I said before. It's not just one person. it's two and both parties opinions and considerations need to be taken into consideration. Even if the other person doesn't know what they're doing. And honestly I don't think that someone who's basically been given  free rides and easy roads in most of his challenges should be even taken seriously and valued. That's just stupid.

 

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end

Eh...I'm a Banana fan but I'm not sure that I agree with that. Johnny's gotten lucky in that the two winning partners that he's had (Tyler and Camila) have bought into his authority without much resistance. Even Frank, to some extent, took a backseat in that he just accepted that he was rolling with the Vet alliance rather than playing with people from "his" generation of Real World. They knew they had to show up, shut up, do what he said and perform and the rest would be taken care of. A lot of the other girls on Exes either would've had problems with fear (Diem, Paula, etc.) or taking orders (every girl besides probably Paula). I'm curious to see how Nany handles it this season as she is not one to just shut up and do as she's told, regardless of if it's in her best interest.*

 

*I also don't mean to say that it always has to be the guy in the power position. Jordan should treat this season the same way...show up, shut up, and be an athlete and let Sarah handle the rest...Ty also should've been that way on Exes with Emily and fallen in line but he couldn't. 

I don't know. I don't like the Idea of just doing whatever the partner tells you and just preform. They are a team and as a team both parties need to be able to make decisions together. Not just one cowtow to the other. Regardless of how good he or she may be at the game. It doesn't negate the other person's say.

Uh...yeah it does. It may not be as extreme as this but what if Johnny were paired with say, Danny from Austin who has proven to suck at every aspect of the game, Danny's say is just as important? He shouldn't be a mute but Johnny's opinion is obviously a lot more valuable. That's how the real world works...when someone knows what they're doing and the other doesn't, the person who knows what they're doing is in charge. The other person should feel free to offer their opinion but when it's time to do the job they should defer. 

Well I hate to break it to you but this isn't The Real World. This is Reality Television. And It really doesn't matter how bad the other person is. You don't tell that person to just shut the **** up and do what you say because what if that person doesn't like the Idea of that? They can just easily take their ball and go home. Therefore ******* the other person over and possibly getting sent home ala Tris****e on Rivals 2. Like I said before. It's not just one person. it's two and both parties opinions and considerations need to be taken into consideration. Even if the other person doesn't know what they're doing. And honestly I don't think that someone who's basically been given  free rides and easy roads in most of his challenges should be even taken seriously and valued. That's just stupid.

 

 

Haha ok. Next time you're clueless in a situation with someone who knows what they're talking about you tell them that your opinion is just as important. See how well it goes. THAT'S stupid.

 

And I didn't say that the partner should be belittled or be told to shut the **** up. I said that they shouldn't be a mute and should feel free to offer their opinion but should let the leader lead. And yeah...if I'm Nany, who's made it halfway twice and the final once (and she ACTUALLY got a free ride on Free Agents, unlike Johnny) I would rather listen to the person who's made it to the end 7 times and done it alone, with a big team, with a partner, going into eliminations, and avoiding eliminations, pretty much every which way you can do it than my own way when my way hasn't worked 2/3 times and the other 1 was by dumb luck.  I'd rather roll the dice with the method of playing that's resulted in him getting paid 7/10 times even if that requires me to swallow a little pride and take orders. Regardless of what YOU want out of the show the CAST is there to make money. If she wants to **** around and argue just for the sake of being loud and walk away with no money God bless her...s**** have wasted 3 weeks of her life. If you're paired with any of the people who have consistently made money, or consitently made it to the end when you haven't you should shut your lips and learn. Then maybe the next time you won't need them to help you.

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end


That sucks but then they weren't the best of that season were they? That's just belittling Camila IMO she more than held her own (winning an individual mission with the Lube Me Up, one of the few girls not to look to her guy for support, etc.). I mean does killing a final make up for a whole season? Kenny/Wes killed the final but did they perform better than Johnny/Tyler?

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end

Eh...I'm a Banana fan but I'm not sure that I agree with that. Johnny's gotten lucky in that the two winning partners that he's had (Tyler and Camila) have bought into his authority without much resistance. Even Frank, to some extent, took a backseat in that he just accepted that he was rolling with the Vet alliance rather than playing with people from "his" generation of Real World. They knew they had to show up, shut up, do what he said and perform and the rest would be taken care of. A lot of the other girls on Exes either would've had problems with fear (Diem, Paula, etc.) or taking orders (every girl besides probably Paula). I'm curious to see how Nany handles it this season as she is not one to just shut up and do as she's told, regardless of if it's in her best interest.*

 

*I also don't mean to say that it always has to be the guy in the power position. Jordan should treat this season the same way...show up, shut up, and be an athlete and let Sarah handle the rest...Ty also should've been that way on Exes with Emily and fallen in line but he couldn't. 

I don't know. I don't like the Idea of just doing whatever the partner tells you and just preform. They are a team and as a team both parties need to be able to make decisions together. Not just one cowtow to the other. Regardless of how good he or she may be at the game. It doesn't negate the other person's say.

Uh...yeah it does. It may not be as extreme as this but what if Johnny were paired with say, Danny from Austin who has proven to suck at every aspect of the game, Danny's say is just as important? He shouldn't be a mute but Johnny's opinion is obviously a lot more valuable. That's how the real world works...when someone knows what they're doing and the other doesn't, the person who knows what they're doing is in charge. The other person should feel free to offer their opinion but when it's time to do the job they should defer. 

Well I hate to break it to you but this isn't The Real World. This is Reality Television. And It really doesn't matter how bad the other person is. You don't tell that person to just shut the **** up and do what you say because what if that person doesn't like the Idea of that? They can just easily take their ball and go home. Therefore ******* the other person over and possibly getting sent home ala Tris****e on Rivals 2. Like I said before. It's not just one person. it's two and both parties opinions and considerations need to be taken into consideration. Even if the other person doesn't know what they're doing. And honestly I don't think that someone who's basically been given  free rides and easy roads in most of his challenges should be even taken seriously and valued. That's just stupid.

 

 

Haha ok. Next time you're clueless in a situation with someone who knows what they're talking about you tell them that your opinion is just as important. See how well it goes. THAT'S stupid.

 

And I didn't say that the partner should be belittled or be told to shut the **** up. I said that they shouldn't be a mute and should feel free to offer their opinion but should let the leader lead. And yeah...if I'm Nany, who's made it halfway twice and the final once (and she ACTUALLY got a free ride on Free Agents, unlike Johnny) I would rather listen to the person who's made it to the end 7 times and done it alone, with a big team, with a partner, going into eliminations, and avoiding eliminations, pretty much every which way you can do it than my own way when my way hasn't worked 2/3 times and the other 1 was by dumb luck.  I'd rather roll the dice with the method of playing that's resulted in him getting paid 7/10 times even if that requires me to swallow a little pride and take orders. Regardless of what YOU want out of the show the CAST is there to make money. If she wants to **** around and argue just for the sake of being loud and walk away with no money God bless her...s**** have wasted 3 weeks of her life. If you're paired with any of the people who have consistently made money, or consitently made it to the end when you haven't you should shut your lips and learn. Then maybe the next time you won't need them to help you.

But that's what you basically are saying. And no shit they're there to make money. You think I don't know otherwise? And once again why should I listen to someone who's basically had several free rides and and easy roads. Backpack's method of winning only works when everyone plays scared and stupid and allows you to slide your way to the end. He's barley had to fight to win(With the Exception of Exes but even then...). WHY the **** would I take someone's advice whols pretty much done nothing to earn his wins? Your acting like these shows are hard work. They're not. It's not brain surgery. It's ******* Reality TV. What is there to figure out? What advice is there to take? Nany is better on her own.

And like I said before. This isn't The Real World. It's reality tv. If I don't know anything about a situation of course I'm going to let the other person lead. But Not on a **** reality show.

How are these shows not hard work? Have you seen these challenges/finals? Also lol at free rides whn he's seen an elimination round almost every season and he dominated FA. Gahhh DA why do you have to be so delusional? I loathe Bananas but you always make me defend him.

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end

Eh...I'm a Banana fan but I'm not sure that I agree with that. Johnny's gotten lucky in that the two winning partners that he's had (Tyler and Camila) have bought into his authority without much resistance. Even Frank, to some extent, took a backseat in that he just accepted that he was rolling with the Vet alliance rather than playing with people from "his" generation of Real World. They knew they had to show up, shut up, do what he said and perform and the rest would be taken care of. A lot of the other girls on Exes either would've had problems with fear (Diem, Paula, etc.) or taking orders (every girl besides probably Paula). I'm curious to see how Nany handles it this season as she is not one to just shut up and do as she's told, regardless of if it's in her best interest.*

 

*I also don't mean to say that it always has to be the guy in the power position. Jordan should treat this season the same way...show up, shut up, and be an athlete and let Sarah handle the rest...Ty also should've been that way on Exes with Emily and fallen in line but he couldn't. 

I don't know. I don't like the Idea of just doing whatever the partner tells you and just preform. They are a team and as a team both parties need to be able to make decisions together. Not just one cowtow to the other. Regardless of how good he or she may be at the game. It doesn't negate the other person's say.

Uh...yeah it does. It may not be as extreme as this but what if Johnny were paired with say, Danny from Austin who has proven to suck at every aspect of the game, Danny's say is just as important? He shouldn't be a mute but Johnny's opinion is obviously a lot more valuable. That's how the real world works...when someone knows what they're doing and the other doesn't, the person who knows what they're doing is in charge. The other person should feel free to offer their opinion but when it's time to do the job they should defer. 

Well I hate to break it to you but this isn't The Real World. This is Reality Television. And It really doesn't matter how bad the other person is. You don't tell that person to just shut the **** up and do what you say because what if that person doesn't like the Idea of that? They can just easily take their ball and go home. Therefore ******* the other person over and possibly getting sent home ala Tris****e on Rivals 2. Like I said before. It's not just one person. it's two and both parties opinions and considerations need to be taken into consideration. Even if the other person doesn't know what they're doing. And honestly I don't think that someone who's basically been given  free rides and easy roads in most of his challenges should be even taken seriously and valued. That's just stupid.

 

 

Haha ok. Next time you're clueless in a situation with someone who knows what they're talking about you tell them that your opinion is just as important. See how well it goes. THAT'S stupid.

 

And I didn't say that the partner should be belittled or be told to shut the **** up. I said that they shouldn't be a mute and should feel free to offer their opinion but should let the leader lead. And yeah...if I'm Nany, who's made it halfway twice and the final once (and she ACTUALLY got a free ride on Free Agents, unlike Johnny) I would rather listen to the person who's made it to the end 7 times and done it alone, with a big team, with a partner, going into eliminations, and avoiding eliminations, pretty much every which way you can do it than my own way when my way hasn't worked 2/3 times and the other 1 was by dumb luck.  I'd rather roll the dice with the method of playing that's resulted in him getting paid 7/10 times even if that requires me to swallow a little pride and take orders. Regardless of what YOU want out of the show the CAST is there to make money. If she wants to **** around and argue just for the sake of being loud and walk away with no money God bless her...s**** have wasted 3 weeks of her life. If you're paired with any of the people who have consistently made money, or consitently made it to the end when you haven't you should shut your lips and learn. Then maybe the next time you won't need them to help you.

But that's what you basically are saying. And no shit they're there to make money. You think I don't know otherwise? And once again why should I listen to someone who's basically had several free rides and and easy roads. Backpack's method of winning only works when everyone plays scared and stupid and allows you to slide your way to the end. He's barley had to fight to win(With the Exception of Exes but even then...). WHY the **** would I take someone's advice whols pretty much done nothing to earn his wins? Your acting like these shows are hard work. They're not. It's not brain surgery. It's ******* Reality TV. What is there to figure out? What advice is there to take? Nany is better on her own.

And like I said before. This isn't The Real World. It's reality tv. If I don't know anything about a situation of course I'm going to let the other person lead. But Not on a **** reality show.

 

So basically, it's easy to win, but Bananas only wins because they let him slide to the end. Make up your mind. If it were so easy more people would've won instead of the same crop of people having multiples. Clearly Johnny knows how to do something all of the winless people on this season don't. And it's obviously something Nany doesn't know as she hasn't won either. So she should shut her mouth and do what he says. 

Lol I hate bananas but why the **** wouldn't Nany listen to him? He has a great political game and knows how to get to the final.

Lol I hate bananas but why the **** wouldn't Nany listen to him? He has a great political game and knows how to get to the final.

 

Didn't you know he got lucky 7/10 times? It was pretty much an accident. Seven times. Nany should absolutely lead that team...Johnny's opinions are irrelevant. 

 

I mean it's not like he has more wins that everybody else on this season COMBINED. 

 

While we're at it Kobe should start taking orders from Robert Sacre. Peyton Manning should ask the punter what he thinks about his play calling. I do recall hearing that Robbie Cano would check with the batboys when he should swing...everybody's thoughts MATTER!

Lol I hate bananas but why the **** wouldn't Nany listen to him? He has a great political game and knows how to get to the final.

 

Didn't you know he got lucky 7/10 times? It was pretty much an accident. Seven times. Nany should absolutely lead that team...Johnny's opinions are irrelevant. 

 

I mean it's not like he has more wins that everybody else on this season COMBINED. 

 

While we're at it Kobe should start taking orders from Robert Sacre. Peyton Manning should ask the punter what he thinks about his play calling. I do recall hearing that Robbie Cano would check with the batboys when he should swing...everybody's thoughts MATTER!


Yeah because it might hurt Nany's feelings if he doesn't let her do anything.

Yeah their partners did hold them back thats why i think if they were solo they would do much better.. I also think camilas partner pushed her foward if anything. I think bananas would have won that season with any girl from the cast.. It didnt have to be camila. Diem killed camila in the final but ct died out at the end

Eh...I'm a Banana fan but I'm not sure that I agree with that. Johnny's gotten lucky in that the two winning partners that he's had (Tyler and Camila) have bought into his authority without much resistance. Even Frank, to some extent, took a backseat in that he just accepted that he was rolling with the Vet alliance rather than playing with people from "his" generation of Real World. They knew they had to show up, shut up, do what he said and perform and the rest would be taken care of. A lot of the other girls on Exes either would've had problems with fear (Diem, Paula, etc.) or taking orders (every girl besides probably Paula). I'm curious to see how Nany handles it this season as she is not one to just shut up and do as she's told, regardless of if it's in her best interest.*

 

*I also don't mean to say that it always has to be the guy in the power position. Jordan should treat this season the same way...show up, shut up, and be an athlete and let Sarah handle the rest...Ty also should've been that way on Exes with Emily and fallen in line but he couldn't. 

I don't know. I don't like the Idea of just doing whatever the partner tells you and just preform. They are a team and as a team both parties need to be able to make decisions together. Not just one cowtow to the other. Regardless of how good he or she may be at the game. It doesn't negate the other person's say.

Uh...yeah it does. It may not be as extreme as this but what if Johnny were paired with say, Danny from Austin who has proven to suck at every aspect of the game, Danny's say is just as important? He shouldn't be a mute but Johnny's opinion is obviously a lot more valuable. That's how the real world works...when someone knows what they're doing and the other doesn't, the person who knows what they're doing is in charge. The other person should feel free to offer their opinion but when it's time to do the job they should defer. 

Well I hate to break it to you but this isn't The Real World. This is Reality Television. And It really doesn't matter how bad the other person is. You don't tell that person to just shut the **** up and do what you say because what if that person doesn't like the Idea of that? They can just easily take their ball and go home. Therefore ******* the other person over and possibly getting sent home ala Tris****e on Rivals 2. Like I said before. It's not just one person. it's two and both parties opinions and considerations need to be taken into consideration. Even if the other person doesn't know what they're doing. And honestly I don't think that someone who's basically been given  free rides and easy roads in most of his challenges should be even taken seriously and valued. That's just stupid.

 

 

Haha ok. Next time you're clueless in a situation with someone who knows what they're talking about you tell them that your opinion is just as important. See how well it goes. THAT'S stupid.

 

And I didn't say that the partner should be belittled or be told to shut the **** up. I said that they shouldn't be a mute and should feel free to offer their opinion but should let the leader lead. And yeah...if I'm Nany, who's made it halfway twice and the final once (and she ACTUALLY got a free ride on Free Agents, unlike Johnny) I would rather listen to the person who's made it to the end 7 times and done it alone, with a big team, with a partner, going into eliminations, and avoiding eliminations, pretty much every which way you can do it than my own way when my way hasn't worked 2/3 times and the other 1 was by dumb luck.  I'd rather roll the dice with the method of playing that's resulted in him getting paid 7/10 times even if that requires me to swallow a little pride and take orders. Regardless of what YOU want out of the show the CAST is there to make money. If she wants to **** around and argue just for the sake of being loud and walk away with no money God bless her...s**** have wasted 3 weeks of her life. If you're paired with any of the people who have consistently made money, or consitently made it to the end when you haven't you should shut your lips and learn. Then maybe the next time you won't need them to help you.

But that's what you basically are saying. And no shit they're there to make money. You think I don't know otherwise? And once again why should I listen to someone who's basically had several free rides and and easy roads. Backpack's method of winning only works when everyone plays scared and stupid and allows you to slide your way to the end. He's barley had to fight to win(With the Exception of Exes but even then...). WHY the **** would I take someone's advice whols pretty much done nothing to earn his wins? Your acting like these shows are hard work. They're not. It's not brain surgery. It's ******* Reality TV. What is there to figure out? What advice is there to take? Nany is better on her own.

And like I said before. This isn't The Real World. It's reality tv. If I don't know anything about a situation of course I'm going to let the other person lead. But Not on a **** reality show.

 

So basically, it's easy to win, but Bananas only wins because they let him slide to the end. Make up your mind. If it were so easy more people would've won instead of the same crop of people having multiples. Clearly Johnny knows how to do something all of the winless people on this season don't. And it's obviously something Nany doesn't know as she hasn't won either. So she should shut her mouth and do what he says. 

Right. So you ARE saying that. And I have my mind made up. You just aren't paying attention because you are so far up Backpack's *** it's just sad.

And the only reason it's easy for backpack to win is BEACAUSE everyone allows him to win. Other people can win too but they just play scared and stupid which allows him to get to the end and win. So many people have what it takes to win these things...They just don't have the balls to do something that's so simple.

Have some balls and make smart decisions..It's really not that **** hard.

Lol I hate bananas but why the **** wouldn't Nany listen to him? He has a great political game and knows how to get to the final.

 

Didn't you know he got lucky 7/10 times? It was pretty much an accident. Seven times. Nany should absolutely lead that team...Johnny's opinions are irrelevant. 

 

I mean it's not like he has more wins that everybody else on this season COMBINED. 

 

While we're at it Kobe should start taking orders from Robert Sacre. Peyton Manning should ask the punter what he thinks about his play calling. I do recall hearing that Robbie Cano would check with the batboys when he should swing...everybody's thoughts MATTER!

Now you're just being rediculous.

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