The Challenge: Battle of the Exes 2 - Informed Speculation (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=Washington;445621]The great ones win finals. CT I can say is finally great. Sarah isn't and she doesn't do too well on these challenges and that really isn't her fault.[/QUOTE] So not winning a final means you are not great? Lol, so what were CT and Laurel before Rivals 2/FA?

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;445623]So not winning a final means you are not great? Lol, so what were CT and Laurel before Rivals 2/FA?[/QUOTE] And this would also mean that Katie is great too considering she was on the WINNING team of the Inferno 1.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;445623]So not winning a final means you are not great? Lol, so what were CT and Laurel before Rivals 2/FA?[/QUOTE] Good players. Especially laurel because she is new. Just because CT is some huge beast doesn't mean he is one challenge wise. What separate good players and the great ones? Final wins. [QUOTE=Debut Album;445624]And this would also mean that Katie is great too considering she was on the WINNING team of the Inferno 1.[/QUOTE] Sigh... I'm not saying just winning a final makes you great but all of it has to culminate with a final win to be great. Bananas wouldn't be the same person with five second place final wins.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;445592]I like Emily much more now.[/QUOTE] I thought the EXACT same thing.

[QUOTE=riggins;445529]Emily said she would definitely come back for another Duel. And I don't know if she feels differently now, but she said last year that she doesn't want to help Cara get her first win, and wouldn't do a Rivals 3 if they were partners.[/QUOTE] I think she has a different mindset now, cara deserves more than any one to get her first win, cara is a much better competitor than Paula and had Emily and ev not been Paula's partner Paula would be 0-10 for challenges.

[QUOTE=Dkristoff;445633]I think she has a different mindset now, cara deserves more than any one to get her first win, cara is a much better competitor than Paula and had Emily and ev not been Paula's partner Paula would be 0-10 for challenges.[/QUOTE] Cara is not a better competitor than Paula. And she isn't better than Diem or Saraj who both deserve a win more than her

[QUOTE=Lola88;445634]Cara is not a better competitor than Paula. And she isn't better than Diem or Saraj who both deserve a win more than her[/QUOTE] Cara could beat Paula and diem in physical ability and puzzles/strategy. Sarah is a better competitor than cara I'll give you that but not Paula or diem not even close

I mean Cara does work hard, but I find the idea that some people "deserve" a win over others to be a little hard to take. Cara has definitely improved, but so did Paula over the course of her challenges. Just because Cara started to do Crossfit and take the show a little more seriously doesn't mean she deserves a win more than Paula, who increased her mental fortitude, started to think strategically and trained harder than before towards the end. And it's not Paula's fault that the format worked out in her favor on both Rivals. I don't even like Paula that much, but she needed to be able to compete well to win those two finals, amazing partner or not. I'm sure Cara's going to win sometimes because of the 'triumphant underdog story' thing, and I like her a lot, but I would probably be fine with her not winning before the end.

[QUOTE=riggins;445638]I mean Cara does work hard, but I find the idea that some people "deserve" a win over others to be a little hard to take. Cara has definitely improved, but so did Paula over the course of her challenges. Just because Cara started to do Crossfit and take the show a little more seriously doesn't mean she deserves a win more than Paula, who increased her mental fortitude, started to think strategically and trained harder than before towards the end. And it's not Paula's fault that the format worked out in her favor on both Rivals. I don't even like Paula that much, but she needed to be able to compete well to win those two finals, amazing partner or not. I'm sure Cara's going to win sometimes because of the 'triumphant underdog story' thing, and I like her a lot, but I would probably be fine with her not winning before the end.[/QUOTE] I've watched Paula on all of her challenges besides the inferno 3, don't get me wrong I like Paula but even on rivals 2 she was just as paranoid as always and she always complains about how people **** her over and she never did anything about it, Paula preformed well in the finals she was in I'll give her that but as an all around competitor cara Maria is better than Paula

[QUOTE=Dkristoff;445640]I've watched Paula on all of her challenges besides the inferno 3, don't get me wrong I like Paula but even on rivals 2 she was just as paranoid as always and she always complains about how people **** her over and she never did anything about it, Paula preformed well in the finals she was in I'll give her that but as an all around competitor cara Maria is better than Paula[/QUOTE] Was she paranoid on Rivals 2? Oh wait, I just remembered her crying to Jordan or something about not voting her in? Lol I think you're right. But Cara also cries a lot/psychs herself out mentally. Idk, neither one of them are the strongest mental players I guess. But Paula on Rivals 2 was a million times more stable than Duel 2 Paula I think.

[QUOTE=riggins;445641]Was she paranoid on Rivals 2? Oh wait, I just remembered her crying to Jordan or something about not voting her in? Lol I think you're right. But Cara also cries a lot/psychs herself out mentally. Idk, neither one of them are the strongest mental players I guess. But Paula on Rivals 2 was a million times more stable than Duel 2 Paula I think.[/QUOTE] Yes she did cry to Jordan and marlon after she voted them in not once but twice which is hypocritical. and I agree with you duel 2 Paula was crazy and a cry baby, I agree caras mind is not always on the game but free agents was the first time in challenge history that people actually liked cara and weren't gunning for her each week and she still managed to go in 4 eliminations, Paula for the most part has always been in the main alliances mostly with JEK and cara has been on her own basically every challenge she's done, cara is flat out better than Paula

[QUOTE=Debut Album;445596]Theresa didn't deserve to be there and neither did Laurel.[/QUOTE] Will you for once stop hating on Fresh Meat members?

Paula is better than Cara ? Best joke I have read from this forum!! :D in article Emily was asked who would give Laurel good run for money in the final and she mentioned Cara (and there few names more) I think if Emily wants to win, she knows she and Cara would be team to beat

I don't think Paula is better than Cara!! lol I just don't think Cara necessarily 'deserved' a win before Paula did and I don't think Paula's as bad as people say she is. I think Cara's good.

What a shocker this thread has also turned into the only thing vevmo knows how to talk about....the strongest female competitor.

[QUOTE=Kajun;445654]What a shocker this thread has also turned into the only thing vevmo knows how to talk about....the strongest female competitor.[/QUOTE] I nominate the one and only Casey Cooper.

[QUOTE=Kajun;445654]What a shocker this thread has also turned into the only thing vevmo knows how to talk about....the strongest female competitor.[/QUOTE] Another shocker: you're complaining about something! But yeah probably should get back on topic.

[QUOTE=Coralfan;445608]I have to agree with you. There are plenty of facts to prove that Nany actually can hold her own on a challenge. I think she is a good competitor but I still don't see her and bananas dominating. Bananas lucked getting Camila who, while unstable, is a really strong girl. Plus she and johnny had real good communication. [B]I don't see nany and bananas doing that, especially since nany doesn't seem to be his biggest fan.[/B][/QUOTE] Everytime they were paired up on FA they worked really well together and dominated.

Nany just like everyone else will become a Bananas Devenanzio fan if she becomes his teammate because they all realize he flat out knows how to play the game and have a realistic shot at winning.

[QUOTE=MTV Junky;445660]Nany just like everyone else will become a Bananas Devenanzio fan if she becomes his teammate because they all realize he flat out knows how to play the game and have a realistic shot at winning.[/QUOTE] Didn't Theresa prove in the swamp tread that she had better lower body endurance than Nany? Yeah she and Zach lost ultimately because of fruit's ability to solve the puzzle but Zach and Theresa reached the puzzle much earlier than fruit/Nany from what I remember. Nany is dangerous no doubt, especially in combination with the fruit but on her own, I feel that there are several girls that can handle her either in the finals, elimination rounds, or the daily challenges.

[QUOTE=v123;445662]Didn't Theresa prove in the swamp tread that she had better lower body endurance than Nany? Yeah she and Zach lost ultimately because of [B]fruit's [/B]ability to solve the puzzle but Zach and Theresa reached the puzzle much earlier than [B]fruit[/B]/Nany from what I remember. Nany is dangerous no doubt, especially in combination with the [B]fruit [/B]but on her own, I feel that there are several girls that can handle her either in the finals, elimination rounds, or the daily challenges.[/QUOTE] Hahaha I'm dying lol I agree with you, Theresa would have a better chance of winning against Laurel in a final, even though Nany impressed me a lot

Ugh no Ashley Kelsey again???? I'm not a big fan of Johnny Reilly, but I love Averey so I guess I'll root for them. Really weak cast though in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;445657]Another shocker: you're complaining about something! But yeah probably should get back on topic.[/QUOTE] Yes because I realize that is all that should be expected from the generic challenge thread , but was hoping since this thread has nothing to do with that since neither Cara or Paula will be there it is a pointless discussion.

[QUOTE=AshKelseyFan;445687]Ugh no Ashley Kelsey again???? I'm not a big fan of Johnny Reilly, but I love Averey so I guess I'll root for them. Really weak cast though in my opinion.[/QUOTE] I agree. We need Wes and Theresa as a team to possibly beat Bananas and Nany if they are indeed a team.

I actually wouldn't mind Ashley K,.

[QUOTE=Washington;445693]I agree. We need Wes and Theresa as a team to possibly beat Bananas and Nany if they are indeed a team.[/QUOTE] I hope they are a team, two of my favorite people on this show paired together.

I hope Wes gets a decent partner. That way this delusion of him still being a top flight competitor can evaporate when he loses.

[QUOTE=Dkristoff;445521]Totally agree about the DC cast and how dumb it was that none of them got castes besides Emily and Ty, Ty can't pass any mental tests so we won't see him anymore and the only way we'll see Emily again in my opinion is on rivals 3 is they pair her up with cara (which would be a kick *** team)[/QUOTE] Couldn't pass the mental tests>? who lied to you?

[QUOTE=JL81790;445700]I hope Wes gets a decent partner. That way this delusion of him still being a top flight competitor can evaporate when he loses.[/QUOTE] I mean he most definitely was a top flight competitor up until he lost a lot of weight. He is a different type of competitor now.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;445701]Couldn't pass the mental tests>? who lied to you?[/QUOTE] Ty allegedly didn't pass a psych exam.