[QUOTE=stuufman;445581]Theresa? Ashley k? Those two are overrated. IMO they have done nothing on the challenges to prove they are better than nany[/QUOTE]
Neither has Nany. Ashley is a winner that you can prove. Theresa well that's personal preference so if you said nany was better I couldn't argue.
[QUOTE=Washington;445580]Girls who are better in her "generation are as followed: Laurel, Cara, Cooke, Emily, Theresa, [B]Ashley.[/B] She is one of the average girls amongst new girls.[/QUOTE]
I agree with everyone except for Ashley. She did good on Seasons, but she was nothing out of this world. I do think she has potential though.
[QUOTE=Lola88;445542]I think Laura could as well. And maybe even Melinda, Averey and Jenna.
Nany is a bit overrated[/QUOTE]
Melinda seriously? The girl who's 0-4 for eliminations? Yeah right.
[QUOTE=Washington;445580]Girls who are better in her "generation are as followed: Laurel, Cara, Cooke, Emily, Theresa, Ashley. She is one of the average girls amongst new girls.[/QUOTE]
I agree with that list except Theresa is debatable. I don't really think she's shown very much so far. I would put her and Nany on the same level, and Nany doesn't even work out/take her health seriously.
Theresa definitely has potential, and maybe I'll change my mind after this season but as of right now I don't think she's solidly ahead of Nany.
I think Theresa has been screwed a lot (not Sarah's level though). She had Ryan as a partner on Fresh Meat 2 (she performed really good on her exile), Tina threw the Gulag for Tori to win and she was partnered with Jasmine on Rivals 2 (even though I agree she sucked on that elimination). Her only chance of making the final was on Rivals and Free Agents. I would have loved if the elimination on Rivals was Blast Off instead of Door Jam, it would have been one of the best ever.
[QUOTE=nevidcm;445549]I think Averey, Jenna, Hailey and Sahar have potential, but I'm not hyping them until I see them perform.[/QUOTE]
Why Sahar? She doesn't seem athletic IMO
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;445589]Why Sahar? She doesn't seem athletic IMO[/QUOTE]
I don't know why, I just see her performing well. Nany didn't seem athletic and she has done good in all her challenges, same with Kimberly.
[QUOTE=nevidcm;445587]I think Theresa has been screwed a lot (not Sarah's level though). She had Ryan as a partner on Fresh Meat 2 (she performed really good on her exile), Tina threw the Gulag for Tori to win and she was partnered with Jasmine on Rivals 2 (even though I agree she sucked on that elimination). Her only chance of making the final was on Rivals and Free Agents. I would have loved if the elimination on Rivals was Blast Off instead of Door Jam, it would have been one of the best ever.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Theresa was also screwed on Free Agents when you let people like Nany and Devyn just walk into the final and you had Laurel and Theresa fight against each other who both deserved to be there... Horrible format.
[QUOTE=riggins;445529]Emily said she would definitely come back for another Duel. And I don't know if she feels differently now, [B]but she said last year that she doesn't want to help Cara get her first win, and wouldn't do a Rivals 3 if they were partners.[/B][/QUOTE]
I like Emily much more now.
[QUOTE=nevidcm;445587]I think Theresa has been screwed a lot (not Sarah's level though). She had Ryan as a partner on Fresh Meat 2 (she performed really good on her exile), Tina threw the Gulag for Tori to win and she was partnered with Jasmine on Rivals 2 (even though I agree she sucked on that elimination). Her only chance of making the final was on Rivals and Free Agents. [B]I would have loved if the elimination on Rivals was Blast Off, it would have been one of the best ever.[/B][/QUOTE]
Of course Laurel Would've killed her, but i'm not sure Cara Maria would've beaten Camila. Cara Maria was horrible on Rivals.
[QUOTE=nevidcm;445587]I think Theresa has been screwed a lot (not Sarah's level though). She had Ryan as a partner on Fresh Meat 2 (she performed really good on her exile), Tina threw the Gulag for Tori to win and she was partnered with Jasmine on Rivals 2 (even though I agree she sucked on that elimination). Her only chance of making the final was on Rivals and Free Agents. [B]I would have loved if the elimination on Rivals was Blast Off, it would have been one of the best ever.[/B][/QUOTE]
Of course Laurel Would've killed her, but i'm not sure Cara Maria would've beaten Camila. Cara Maria was horrible on Rivals.
[QUOTE=Washington;445591]Exactly. Theresa was also screwed on Free Agents when you let people like Nany and Devyn just walk into the final and you had Laurel and Theresa fight against each other who both deserved to be there... Horrible format.[/QUOTE]
I loved the whole changing from partners to teams to individual, but the Draw was a horrible twist, I hope we never see it again.
[QUOTE=Washington;445591]Exactly. Theresa was also screwed on Free Agents when you let people like Nany and Devyn just walk into the final and you had Laurel and Theresa fight against each other who both deserved to be there... Horrible format.[/QUOTE]
Theresa didn't deserve to be there and neither did Laurel.
[QUOTE=Washington;445518]Johnny is really unproven. He walked freely into the finals and even though he did finish second the last leg was his only impressive feat that season. [B]Also nailing Nany. [/B]
I do think he will be good though just we haven't seen it yet. He clearly has the endurance to finish and compete in a finals. Averey well I have no damn clue. Maybe she will be decent but usually doesn't happen on the first season.
Gut feeling is that they make it far but get eliminated right before the finals. If not they have a chance of winning one depending on Averey fitness level.[/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=Tvandcoffee;445520]I noticed Hailey following a lot of cast members on twitters and Thomas was not. The only person he was following speculated on this challenge is Knight. Idk if that's gonna help/hurt them. Thomas is a hard one to make predictions about. I can see him politicking quite well but at the same time I can see him refusing to do so, which will **** people off. I can also see them flying under the radar because they seem quiet compared to the rest. Would they get close to finals? Doubtful to me.
Jay and Jenna though, I think they might be one of the first ones sent in. Just because of Jay too. I know Knight has aimed tweets at him and I don't think Knight really runs anything BUT I feel like Zach has aimed a tweet at Jay too, and I remember someone here saying he favorited Knights tweet. SO if zach has the chance to, I think they will go after Jay.
I remember seeing Jay talk about Bananas. However I don't know if that will help or hurt him either because I've never seen Bananas even acknowledge Jay. Bananas might need as many people as he can get if he's paired with nany because they will be one of the best teams there. If other cast members were smart, they'd go after Bananas/Nany but Nany is good friends with the majority of the slated cast so we will see. PR is right about Jenna though, I doubt she will speak up. I think Rookies will deff be aimed for in this challenge seeing as the last two challenges had rookies making it to the final.
as far as alliances go-
Nany is cool with Zach/jonna, Knight/Jemmye/ Dustin/ Jess
Bananas is cool with Leroy
Zach is cool with Reilly/averey, knight/jemmye and maybe Jordan (?)
im assuming Bananas and Danny/Melinda will align
Jay is cool with Jemmye, Thomas/Hailey
who else am I missing? What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
Bananas might let Jay ride with him. We know Zach/Johnny R were against Bananas so there is room there.
I just don't think Tom is big on following a lot of people. We will know exactly who his Challenge buddies are when we return, and I can bet it will be a select few, he won't just go follow everyone of the cast.
[QUOTE=stuufman;445581]Theresa? Ashley k? Those two are overrated. IMO they have done nothing on the challenges to prove they are better than nany[/QUOTE]
Hmm Ashley K being undefeated in elimination and challenge doesn't make her better than Nany? Statistically and factually speaking, yes it does.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;445543]I am still personally not sold on Jenna at all, especially on the political part of the game and puzzles since she have proven that she is not really the brightest crayon in the box.
I Though the way she did was hilarious and it proved to me that she is not that strong, the way she did it proved to me that she is not an "athlete" just someone that goes to the gym
[URL="http://instagram.com/p/qccyiHOt9Z/?modal=true"]Instagram[/URL]
For someone that spend as much time at the gym as she does, she is still tiny in my opinion no way near even Ashley Kelsey, Sarah and even Jess.
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People that would be stronger than her physically in my OPINION
Sarah
Theresa
Nany
Jess
Nia
Then you have black horses like Averey that we haven't see compete and even Laura[/QUOTE]
She seems like a cardio girl … def. not into bulking up. Jenna and Hailey are going to be mute. Tom and Jay will run their teams and they will gal pal with the girls. I expect outside of them poss bickering with their Ex's they will make for boring TV.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;445596]Theresa didn't deserve to be there and neither did Laurel.[/QUOTE]
How do you figure? Laurel went through four eliminations. Theresa only went through one yet won 3 day missions. If you look at that The finals should have been Cara, Laurel, Theresa.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;445547]I see Laura doing really well this time, I hope Trey doesn't hold her back with everything going on in his personal life.[/QUOTE]
Lol did you see Trey's Facebook post today? Someone is getting their ego back …. as much as it would have been entertaining to see him go in mentally unstable, you can tell he is doing better. 10 days at the beach prior to the Challenge is prob exactly what his mind needed.
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[QUOTE=Lola88;445600]Hmm Ashley K being undefeated in elimination and challenge doesn't make her better than Nany? Statistically and factually speaking, yes it does.[/QUOTE]
I'd have to see more of Ashley K to think she's better than Nany. She performed solidly on BOTS never a bad performance but she was never impressive or a standout. Ashley was on one of the strongest team and in that elimination she was paired with the strongest guy going against an average Derek and a panicky Jonna. Not taking these wins away from her but any other girl could have taken her spot on that team and been "undefeated" in elimination and challenges.
[QUOTE=Washington;445602]How do you figure? Laurel went through four eliminations. Theresa only went through one yet won 3 day missions. If you look at that The finals should have been Cara, Laurel, Theresa.[/QUOTE]
I don't think that's necessarily true, Nany didn't go through any eliminations, but people like to ignore that part of the reason for that is her being the girl with the most daily challenge wins at 5. I think Nany deserved a spot in the final just as much as Theresa. It just should have been Cara (had she not broken her hand) instead of Devyn.
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;445576]I think she doesn't get credit for what she has done for each season she has been on. She kicked *** on seasons and did amazing in the strategy elimination with Dustin. Alton threw the elimination he did with her so she probably would have made the finals and possible won seasons. Her and Jonna came in second on most of the challenges on Rivals 2, they lost to a strong team in a kind of dumb elimination, she was on the winning team for most of the challenges on FA, she was the only girl next to laurel to carry the logs on the challenge where someone had to lean up against the board, she got hit hard by CM and kept going and still won the challenge, and she did amazing on her first final except for her little freak out. For not working out and drinking/smoking all the time she is a hell of a competitor. Is she on Laurel/Emily/Ev's level? No. But she is one of the strongest girls in the new generation.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you. There are plenty of facts to prove that Nany actually can hold her own on a challenge. I think she is a good competitor but I still don't see her and bananas dominating. Bananas lucked getting Camila who, while unstable, is a really strong girl. Plus she and johnny had real good communication. I don't see nany and bananas doing that, especially since nany doesn't seem to be his biggest fan.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;445611]As far as the girls still doing challenges, IMO it goes: Laurel, Emily S/Camila, Sarah, Cara Maria, Nany, idk how the rest would go from there.[/QUOTE]
Nany is too high and so is Sarah. Win a final and then we can talk about Nany in that upper echelon discussion.
[QUOTE=Washington;445602]How do you figure? Laurel went through four eliminations. Theresa only went through one yet won 3 day missions. If you look at that The finals should have been Cara, Laurel, Theresa.[/QUOTE]
Well Neither of them are real castmembers so That alone makes them not deserving IMO. I'd rather have Both Theresa and Laurel both get eliminated So it'd be just Nany and Devyn in a Final 2 and Nany would win. Perfect Ending.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;445615]Well Neither of them are real castmembers so That alone makes them not deserving IMO. I'd rather have Both Theresa and Laurel both get eliminated So it'd be just Nany and Devyn in a Final 2 and Nany would win. Perfect Ending.[/QUOTE]
What does that even mean?
[QUOTE=Washington;445613]Nany is too high and so is Sarah. Win a final and then we can talk about Nany in that upper echelon discussion.[/QUOTE]
CT won his first final last year, I don't think there is anything wrong with someone being winless. Sarah has done well on almost all of her challenges.
[QUOTE=Washington;445617]What does that even mean?[/QUOTE]
He's being an idiot. Pay no attention to him.
[QUOTE=MTV Junky;443012]Are FM cast members?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Youssarian;443017]Are they members of the cast of the Challenge? Yes. Therefore, they are cast members.[/QUOTE]
This is really all you need to see. Shut this bull**** down asap.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;445618]CT won his first final last year, I don't think there is anything wrong with someone being winless. Sarah has done well on almost all of her challenges.[/QUOTE]
The great ones win finals. CT I can say is finally great. Sarah isn't and she doesn't do too well on these challenges and that really isn't her fault.
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